First of all, I'm not sure in which forum does this belong. If it needs to be moved or removed, feel free to do so.
As the title says, I'm looking for a custom ROM for Omnia whose only modification would be that it's unlocked. I only need the unlock feature. Actually, I might not even need that right now, but in case WP gains some momentum, I expect more and more useful homebrew applications to be made, so I'd like to be ready.
The ability to do the unlock on my existing OS install would be perfect, but as far as I know, that is not possible.
There are now at least two popular ROMs for Omnia, but both of them stray too far from the stock experience for my personal taste. I find the stock experience to be as near as perfect as anything can be. Especially from the aesthetic aspect. I don't like those custom livetile themes for example.
I don't mind the adding of additional homebrew apps, since I can always remove them if i need, but I don't know how deep do these customizations go? I did notice some threads and post reporting problems. Would that also appear in any ROM, regardless of the depth of modifications, or is it because of some tweaks cooks are making?
in any case, I'd be thankful for any answer.
There are multiple levels of unlock; what are you thinking of? It's quite possible to dev-unlock and interop-unlock a stock Omnia 7 phone using the WindowBreak project. That will allow you to install any number of homebrew apps, and will allow you to use high-privilege apps such as WP7 Root Tools.
If you want "full-unlock" such as is required for the DFT BlueTooth File Transfer feature or to run the ported version of Opera, you'll need a custom ROM.
Well like Goodday says it depends on what you want to do. If you just want interop unlock then and still keep your official update path then Windowbreak is your route if you are not able to do use WindowBreak.
Then a custom ROM is your best option I would say the mi7ROM 1.3b 6 language is the best one for that. He has two ROMS 6 language which is mostly just the unlocks and a couple pre installed xaps Nokia, HTC, and a few others but they can be removed. He did not even put in the DFT Bluetooth app since some people had issues with it. He also has the 18 language ROM which is partly skinned and has many more xaps installed and a skinned theme.
GoodDayToDie said:
There are multiple levels of unlock; what are you thinking of? It's quite possible to dev-unlock and interop-unlock a stock Omnia 7 phone using the WindowBreak project. That will allow you to install any number of homebrew apps, and will allow you to use high-privilege apps such as WP7 Root Tools.
If you want "full-unlock" such as is required for the DFT BlueTooth File Transfer feature or to run the ported version of Opera, you'll need a custom ROM.
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I don't really know what level do i need. I'm now interop-unlocked, and i know that there are some homebrew apps that require full-unlock. For example, I'd like to have the possibility to mess with the registry. Not that I would use it a lot, but just in case that i need it sometimes.
I'm gonna go with custom rom.
chicagolive said:
Then a custom ROM is your best option I would say the mi7ROM 1.3b 6 language is the best one for that. He has two ROMS 6 language which is mostly just the unlocks and a couple pre installed xaps Nokia, HTC, and a few others but they can be removed. He did not even put in the DFT Bluetooth app since some people had issues with it. He also has the 18 language ROM which is partly skinned and has many more xaps installed and a skinned theme.
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What makes mi7rom better than xda devs 3.0 rom?
I'm not really sure, they both seem to have not that many modifications (which is good), but xda devs seems to be the newer build, so I was planning to go with it.
Um, interop-unlock is all that's required to mees with the registry. That's been true since the first registry editors (of course, back then there was no interop-lock to unlock, but the editors work the same now as they did then). It's also enough to use WP7 Root Tools, which
A) contains a registry editor (and a filesystem browser)
B) allows you to run some apps that previously required full-unlock.
It won't do Opera or BlueTooth file transfer, but it will do pretty much all the other apps
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It won't do Opera or BlueTooth file transfer, but it will do pretty much all the other apps
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Hm, that sounds great. But if you had to guess, would you say there are going to be some more apps that require full unlock?
Also, and i know this might be a very stupid question to ask, will hard resetting the phone remove the interop unlock? Because as i said, i do need to do a hard reset, because marketplace has finally landed in my country so i'm changing liveID, and i have this samsung update that fixes the hole windowbreak has been using.
Yes, hard-resetting a stock ROM will remove the interop-unlock. You can, however, roll back to a previous firmware version (one compatible with the Windowbreak hack) and then hard-reset.
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You can roll back to a previous firmware version (one compatible with the Windowbreak hack) and then hard-reset.
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How do I know if my zune backup is of the compatible firmware version?
If it's not, how can I do that manually? There is a thread with links to official firmwares but all the links are dead. Do I need magldr for these? I have an Omnia bought in T-mobile in Croatia, but I've additionally did SIM-unlock. Is there some kind of an archive of those firmwares?
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hi all i just got my htc hd 7 i want to know what benefits unlocking will bring to me + i read about touch explor and windows decive manager from where and how to download these?
thanks in advance
I think Unlocking is not important in my opinion because the available app outside Marketplace are not good app, as you register your credit card in Zune, you can buy very nice app and games better than those outside marketplace.
A very important reason to stay locked is to have the latest radio and firmware versions, but unlocking makes you with old ones.
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I think Unlocking is not important in my opinion because the available app outside Marketplace are not good app, as you register your credit card in Zune, you can buy very nice app and games better than those outside marketplace.
A very important reason to stay locked is to have the latest radio and firmware versions, but unlocking makes you with old ones.
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that's a bold statement. firmware or radio versions have nothing to do with UnlockState.
if you want to configure your phone beyond what's possible natively, there are a few apps that can be sideloaded that allow you to do what the NoDo OS for example cannot do, only two here. a) changing accent colors, b) adding your own ringtones.
Schaps has his own website with a forum and download section. If you google it you won't need much time to find it.
Hello,
wholly, the fact of unlock the WP7 allows to put some programs such as accent etc her personify sound wp7
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that's a bold statement. firmware or radio versions have nothing to do with UnlockState.
if you want to configure your phone beyond what's possible natively, there are a few apps that can be sideloaded that allow you to do what the NoDo OS for example cannot do, only two here. a) changing accent colors, b) adding your own ringtones.
Schaps has his own website with a forum and download section. If you google it you won't need much time to find it.
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As a Mozart user, I can not unlock the device with the latest Radio and Firmware, So I miss the camera update and loading speen which are important additions to me
Adding ringtones are not important because the internal ones are very nice.
Also changing the color and editing the device system may cause my system to be unstable.
Just an opinion.
Sorry for my English.
Actually it's up to the individual,some might stick to lock phone some might not.The best for those who unlock is that they can explore what their phone can do just like win mobile 5 to 6. and they can do the same as lock phone ie: update etc. so on and so forth.
Just my 2 cents.
Hello I'm new to Windows Phone 7 (was into the whole jailbreaking on iPhone before) but before I try the whole unlocking thing I want to know a few things:
Is it possible to install and use Advanced Config to change accent colors etc on my HTC Titan.
Secondly is it possible to use this whole unlocking thing to install for example Samsung or Nokia exclusive apps on my HTC Titan.
If either of these two are possible I'd like to unlock with Chevronlabs (already paid for it), if not, then I don't see any reason to unlock or whatever.
Also how do I proceed after that. I mean I looked into the hacking en developing board but I don't understand any of it. With all those different Mango versions and different device requirements etc. It was all way easier with the iPhone/iPad.
Device model: HTC Titan X310e
Software: Windows Phone 7.5
OS: 7.10.7720.68
Hello,
acutally you can only unlock the phone using developer unlock (official or chevron) to sideload XAPs files. However on Mango it is not possible to install XAPs requiring the INTEROP capability (such as registry editors or, unfortunately, Advanced Config).
You will have to wait for a INTEROP-UNLOCK for HTC to install that program since the only way to do this is to downgrade to NoDo and hack it, which I think is not possible on HTC Radar since it comes with Mango preinstalled.
EDIT: For Nokia or Samsung apps I do not know but I hope for Nokia ones .
Thanks. So no reason to unlock yet Really hoped for Advanced Config too bad.
Oh, there are some good homebrew apps that don't need ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES.
Webserver: Easy way to transfer files between computers; don't even need a USB cable just wifi and a web browser which are pretty much everywhere.
Screen capture: Sometimes it's useful to be able to make screenshots, to show something off or explain something more clearly.
Folders: Categorize and group your apps. It's basically custom "hubs" of apps, except the tiles can deep-link as well.
There are a few more, those are just the ones that come to mind. If you've got any coding and/or security skills, feel free to start taking apart the ROM dumps or HTC apps and trying to find a way to interop-unlock them. I'm sure there's a way; we still have a ton to learn about this OS. Three months or so back, we didn't think it was possible to run native code at all without interop-unlock.
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Screen capture: Sometimes it's useful to be able to make screenshots, to show something off or explain something more clearly.
Folders: Categorize and group your apps. It's basically custom "hubs" of apps, except the tiles can deep-link as well.
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Sounds interesting. I'll give it a try then anyway thanks.
I'm more of an android guy but my dad uses a hd7 that he also will use to tether. The current way he is doing it is that he is on NoDo (pre-mango) and the dial up hack (his HD7 is chevron unlocked). I was interested in flashing a Mango rom that has wifi internet sharing so I searched and think I have the method down for the most part but just want to make sure.
1. Charge battery up to 50%+
2. Hold power down while rebooting and go into OSPL mode
3. Flash RSPL (the temporary one) (basically follow directions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195647)
This is where I'm not quite sure if the steps are correct
4. Download the rom file and launch the .exe file (the phone is a TMO HD7)
Am I missing anything? I'm sorry if there is a how-to flash a rom but I didn't find a how-to that had a step by step.
Also, is there a major difference between the roms in the development section?
Thanks a lot!
You've got the basic idea, yes. I think for a full ROM you *might* need to use HSPL instead of just RSPL, but I'm not sure (and if you can do RSPL you can do HSPL too, easily). Custom ROMs typically come pre-packaged in a "RUU" program - that's ROM Update Utility. If you want one that's just available as a binary image, you can download the RUU separately.
The major differences between the ROMs will be things like:
What devices are supported (HD7 = Schubert).
What features are supported (not all Mango ROMs will have Internet Sharing via WiFi, for example).
What tweaks are included (most should come pre-unlocked, at least).
Anything that *doesn't* work (watch ut for this list).
What update mechanisms the ROM supports (custom CABs are common, for example).
Generally speaking, the DFT ROMs are pretty good, though many people use their ROMs as a base to build in additional capabilities.
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You've got the basic idea, yes. I think for a full ROM you *might* need to use HSPL instead of just RSPL, but I'm not sure (and if you can do RSPL you can do HSPL too, easily). Custom ROMs typically come pre-packaged in a "RUU" program - that's ROM Update Utility. If you want one that's just available as a binary image, you can download the RUU separately.
The major differences between the ROMs will be things like:
What devices are supported (HD7 = Schubert).
What features are supported (not all Mango ROMs will have Internet Sharing via WiFi, for example).
What tweaks are included (most should come pre-unlocked, at least).
Anything that *doesn't* work (watch ut for this list).
What update mechanisms the ROM supports (custom CABs are common, for example).
Generally speaking, the DFT ROMs are pretty good, though many people use their ROMs as a base to build in additional capabilities.
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Thanks for the reply, it really helps knowing you have a understanding of something before you actually attempt to do it lol.
I figured out the Schubert information just reading about it and the rest I figured out while browsing over the roms. I think I'm going to go with this one for my first flash.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271118
Thanks again for the help and hopefully all goes well.
DeepShining is popular as a high-capability ROM (lots of features), but be sure you read the Known Issues list. Things like possible problems with Connection Setup may be a problem if you use it for its legit purpose (fixing connection settings) very often, and the inability to use the CAB sender means future updates will probably have to be full ROM re-flashing.
If your dad has any app data on the phone that he'd like to preserve, such as game progress or things like that, let me know before you flash his phone. I've got an HTC data backup app that I'm ready to start a limited alpha test of. It's actually ahrd to find people who can test it on Mango though, due to the low number of people with interop-unlocked HTC phones, so a custom ROM that supports TouchXplorer (same DLL needed for my backup app) might make a good test. The app isn't even beta quality yet - I'm still adding things to it, and the codebase is a bit of a mess - but it works for the features it does have, most of the time.
Currently i am hspl'd and am using a custom rom. although there are great roms, i find it very uneasy having to deal with little bugs and waiting for an update. so i am in the process of trying to go almost completely stock. i have downloaded the most recent official rom for the hd7, RUU_Schubert_S_TMOUS_4.05.531.03_Radio_5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE.
Now i have extracted it and found that there is a RUU_signed.nbh, so i am wondering if i flash this using wrapper29, will my spl stay unchanged. if so i am planning to update to the internet sharing update, but before that i have to unlock and introp unlock. but i am having trouble finding out how to do the regular unlock... do i pay the 9 bucks for the chevron site?
also out of curiosity is there a way to just update through zune (officially) to the newest update, and be able to edit my registry. the a2dp bitrate values sound horrible. i know ill lose my hspl but all i really need is to be able to edit my registry.
Not sure about the affect on your SPL; my phone is HSPL compatible but I've never installed it.
Make sure the ROM you're flashing is not so new you can't interop-unlock it. If the firmware version is above *.*.50000.*, I don't believe interop-unlock (or registry editing, which is all interop unlock is - a tricksy way of editing the registry) is possible.
To get the basic dev-unlock, you currently need to have an AppHub account from Microsoft ($99/year, or free if you're a student via DreamSpark). The ChevronWP7 Labs unlock (the $9 one you mentioned) had a limited number of unlocks for sale, and sadly they sold out. Everybody is hoping they'll get more soon, but... no word yet.
Hi,
I have been a WP user for a very long time (A journey which started with HTC Artemis)
I had started using the custom ROM's provided by some amazing chef's over here compared to what MS was dishing out.
I am not having the WP7 from the first day it had launched (Started with the mozart and now on lumia 800)
I have not yet tried to root the mobile or install a custom ROM in this as for the first time I am loving what MS has given.
Since there are quite a lot of people here who are using custom ROM and also rooting their devices I was wondering what I am missing.
If you have rooted your device or installed a custom ROM please let me know the advantages of rooting and/or installing a custom ROM.
I had searched the threads and could not find an answer anywhere so if this was posted somewhere before apologies.
This has definitely been asked (and answered) before, but the short version is that custom ROMs give deeper access to the system (ability to replace system files, which are locked in ROM, and ability to completely bypass the security system, for example). They also can include the best firmware features from multiple different OEMs. Current "rooting" ability gives less complete access than a custom ROM (for example, native EXEs aren't supported yet, although that's being worked on and should be available soon), but also maintains the OS's ability to receive official updates. Stock ROMs are also less likely to have bugs than custom ROMs, though they typically also offer fewer features.
Of course, part of it comes down to the model of phone you have. LGs can be rooted, but don't get custom ROMs. Lumia 710s (and a very lucky few Lumia 800s) can get custom ROMs, but we havent' been able to root their stock ROMs.
I had checked a few threads but did not find the complete list of benifits in one central place hence this thread.
I am giving below the benefits of rooting based on my little knowledge. It would be great if some one would be able to add to this very small list.
Pro's of rooting
1) Can install the best firmware for your phone regardless of your carrier and your location.
2) Can side load apps which are not approved by MS and not in the marketplace
3) SMS tones
4) Using the phone as mass storage (Not sure about this one)
5) Change the available fonts and metro theme colors
A very small list from me so it would be really great if someone could expand and also correct if the above list is wrong.
I just really dont know if I should custom rom mine. I have so many sms and mms, couple of my games are finished, and final fantasy is still halfway through. Carbon isnt in the marketplace anymore but I still have it. Also messages in whatsapp viber and kik, risking all those for full unlock and homebrew apps that I need but lived without since I bought a titan. If it were possible to export messages, and game progress, and import them back, then I'd definitely custom rom mine, else I'll just have to get a lumia 920 and then do a custom rom.
Ability to send all files through bluetooth to other phones is also great, you should really consider jailbreaking.
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I just really dont know if I should custom rom mine. I have so many sms and mms, couple of my games are finished, and final fantasy is still halfway through. Carbon isnt in the marketplace anymore but I still have it. Also messages in whatsapp viber and kik, risking all those for full unlock and homebrew apps that I need but lived without since I bought a titan. If it were possible to export messages, and game progress, and import them back, then I'd definitely custom rom mine, else I'll just have to get a lumia 920 and then do a custom rom.
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It's defenetly worth trying out the 7.8 rom, with the windows phone 8 startsceen!! (link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908624)
I'm sure you won't regret this one!!! (Microsoft is said to release this February 2013!)
And after you have the Nokia apps (Maps, Music, Drive, City Lens & Counters) you won't let the custom rom's go!!!
(Use this HSPL guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32097753&postcount=14)
For the backing up part: USE CABSENDER! (http://xboxmod.sylvester20007.com/TOOLS/WP7-Update-Cab-Sender.rar) (as Admin)
Thanks sianto I really appreciate it, but I've read some posts around that backing up via cabsender and after installing a custom rom, you won't be able to use that backup anymore as the ID changes per rom install. Is this true? Is it not like in android where you perform a full nand backup and restore anytime?
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Thanks sianto I really appreciate it, but I've read some posts around that backing up via cabsender and after installing a custom rom, you won't be able to use that backup anymore as the ID changes per rom install. Is this true? Is it not like in android where you perform a full nand backup and restore anytime?
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Well, it is unstable sometimes! But you just need to copy the folder xxxxx - xxxxx - xxxxx - xxxxx - xxxxx
x: is something random
from an temp folder called Windows Phone Update C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
to an safe location, and (after flashing) place it back (with still an extra copy on a safe location) and just use R.
It "should" work!