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Someone with a successful update -- please read!

Just about everyone is having trouble installing the official JH7 OTA update... except a very few!
Those people who successfully installed the OTA JH7 (and got the "system updated successfully" message), please help your fellow XDAers out! We could use a Nandroid / ROM manager backup of your updated firmware!
1) Root your phone (using One-Click Root)
2) Install "ROM manager" from the market
3) Flash Clockwork recovery using "ROM manager" (select Galaxy S Captivate)
4) Backup your current ROM using "ROM manager" (save this as my-personal-backup -- you don't want to share this one)
5) Perform a "factory reset" (to clear out all your personal stuff, under settings -> privacy)
6) Re-root your phone (same as step #1)
7) Re-Install "ROM Manager" from the market, and then REMOVE your Google Apps account from Settings->Accounts and Sync
7 Alternate) Re-install "ROM Manager" via side-loading using attached APK and Sideloading Wonder
8) Re-flash Clockwork Recovery (same as step #3)
9) Make another firmware backup, and save it as "JH7-OTA-Stock" (or something)
10) Share that backup with us! It saved it in your internal SDcard memory under clockworkmod/backup
11) Restore your "my-personal-backup" firmware with "ROM Manager" to get back to normal
This will allow us all to try out the update. Thanks for whoever steps forward!
EDIT: I have attached my Titanium backup APK for ROM Manager -- you should be able to side-load this for step #7 "alternate"

If they do this and set up their market again, won't it save their username and password?
Wouldn't side loading Rom Manger be a better option?

mmm_tacos said:
If they do this and set up their market again, won't it save their username and password?
Wouldn't side loading Rom Manger be a better option?
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Yes, good point.. does anyone have the ROM manager APK on hand to attach? I can get it, but if someone can attach it faster than I, go for it

This may be a dumb question, but does a factory reset restore the bloatware?

maximus-dev said:
This may be a dumb question, but does a factory reset restore the bloatware?
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I think so... but it would only be temporary. Once you restore back to your first backup, the bloatware would be gone again. Yes, the backup you share with us may have bloatware in it... but we have become very efficient at removing it

Does a succesful update mean having both PDA and Phone firmware read
I897UCJH7? I'm not sure how I achieved the PDA updating to JH7 since my update failed. I had to restart with Odin JF6 then to JH7, flashed Cognition and Voodoo Lag and was surprised that i have JH7 on the PDA and Phone.

jhego said:
Does a succesful update mean having both PDA and Phone firmware read
I897UCJH7? I'm not sure how I achieved the PDA updating to JH7 since my update failed. I had to restart with Odin JF6 then to JH7, flashed Cognition and Voodoo Lag and was surprised that i have JH7 on the PDA and Phone.
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Successful update is having the phone say "Update was successful" after it reboots. If it ever said the update failed, it didn't complete the update. It may have updated a few things (which you see in the "About Phone" section) -- but I highly suspect it isn't a 100% update and key things may be missing.

Nothing from me. Update is failed at 50% so I am not going to be trying again in hopes of keeping my phone unbricked. Sorry guys.

flashman2002 said:
Nothing from me. Update is failed at 50% so I am not going to be trying again in hopes of keeping my phone unbricked. Sorry guys.
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I get a fail at 50% too.. the only way I can think of us getting this update is either Samsung fixing it (which is unlikely anytime soon), or someone giving us a ROM manager backup.

I think that most of the people that are sent to this tread are newbies that may be scared of the "Root your phone" part of it. Can we attach the link that explains how to do it?
Just a thought.

That absolutely describes me! Haha. I'm totally willing to help out but nervous as hell to root/flash my phone as I have zero experience with that kind of stuff. I have been following xda for years now, by have never really done anything like that. If someone would be willing to help me out I might be able to do this.
Edit: I suppose it would have been helpful to mention that I did indeed have a successful update.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Gr8Danes said:
I think that most of the people that are sent to this tread are newbies that may be scared of the "Root your phone" part of it. Can we attach the link that explains how to do it?
Just a thought.
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Ditto, I think the people who HAVE successfully updated through OTA are newbs (I don't mean that in a derogatory way) because if they weren't newbs, they would have already flashed a few roms, played with rom manager, and used odin..... which wouldn't allow their device to update.

Gr8Danes said:
I think that most of the people that are sent to this tread are newbies that may be scared of the "Root your phone" part of it. Can we attach the link that explains how to do it?
Just a thought.
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I see what you are saying, as long as one of them speaks up we can help.

Gr8Danes said:
I think that most of the people that are sent to this tread are newbies that may be scared of the "Root your phone" part of it. Can we attach the link that explains how to do it?
Just a thought.
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Done (includes side-loading too!). We need to push more people over here

cpk86 said:
That absolutely describes me! Haha. I'm totally willing to help out but nervous as hell to root/flash my phone as I have zero experience with that kind of stuff. I have been following xda for years now, by have never really done anything like that. If someone would be willing to help me out I might be able to do this.
Edit: I suppose it would have been helpful to mention that I did indeed have a successful update.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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I added a link to Super Rooter Extreme on the first post -- this should get you rooted and allow you to "side-load" (e.g. install applications from memory, not from the market). Let us know, we will walk you through it!

cpk86 said:
That absolutely describes me! Haha. I'm totally willing to help out but nervous as hell to root/flash my phone as I have zero experience with that kind of stuff. I have been following xda for years now, by have never really done anything like that. If someone would be willing to help me out I might be able to do this.
Edit: I suppose it would have been helpful to mention that I did indeed have a successful update.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Well if you have successfully gotten the update, look in the dev section and you will see a thread titled one click root by tgagruman. Download that zip, unzip. Put phone to usb debugging and open the galaxy one click root application. Click root and watch the screen. When your phone goes to recovery mode select reinstall packages and hit the power button. That will be it.
Next you can download the sideload wonder machine to install the rom manager apk on your phone. After that it is just making a backup through rom manager and making a zip to host.

Question. Why is everyone freaking out about this update is it not thesame as the jh7 put on samfirmware.com weeks ago?? If not what is the difference my dad has the same phone and i did the update for him today and it was successful. I told him i dont need it i already have it. Are they the same
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

cpk86 said:
That absolutely describes me! Haha. I'm totally willing to help out but nervous as hell to root/flash my phone as I have zero experience with that kind of stuff. I have been following xda for years now, by have never really done anything like that. If someone would be willing to help me out I might be able to do this.
Edit: I suppose it would have been helpful to mention that I did indeed have a successful update.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Same with me. This stuff is way over my head but I'd like to help after seeing the issues others are having. Unfortunately I'm just a dummy with a smartphone

phr00t said:
Done (includes side-loading too!). We need to push more people over here
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super rooter might be scary. I know I chose the most minimal method when I did it the first time...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682828
Download
Rename
boot in recovery...
and for sideload I used the manual editing of the settings DB method at the bottom of the link
http://samsungcaptivate.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_Sideload
just my humble opinion as a new captivate owner...
-p

My update was successful, and I am a newb. But ill give it a shot. I was rooted prior to the update, I still think I am... anyway to check so I can skip steps or do i need to start at the beginning?

[Q] 4g reboots in download mode unless connected to power.

I bought a second hand galaxy s 4g that had a problem. When the phone gets rebooted, such as a battery change, it only restarts in download mode. I tried flashing a new rom in odin hoping it would set right whatever is wrong in there but no good. When the phone is connected to a power source it restarts normally. I know there is a fix for this but I can't find it. Seems most people can't get into download mode but I can't get out! Thanks in advance for whoever can help. How can I fix this?

robthorn2010 said:
I bought a second hand galaxy s 4g that had a problem. When the phone gets rebooted, such as a battery change, it only restarts in download mode. I tried flashing a new rom in odin hoping it would set right whatever is wrong in there but no good. When the phone is connected to a power source it restarts normally. I know there is a fix for this but I can't find it. Seems most people can't get into download mode but I can't get out! Thanks in advance for whoever can help. How can I fix this?
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Interesting problem. What ROM is it currently running? Have you tried a factory reset, cache wipe, etc?

I did. I just got it yesterday and immediately did a cache wipe and reinstall packages. It has froyo.vuvkb5 kernel 2.6.32.9. I installed the krylon360 stock+rom via odin with no change. I was going to try flashing a team whiskey rom onto it when I have time but wanted to check if this had been a problem for anyone else. I found one post somewhere that may point to a missing .dll but everything is fine when its plugged into power. I am lost.

robthorn2010 said:
I did. I just got it yesterday and immediately did a cache wipe and reinstall packages. It has froyo.vuvkb5 kernel 2.6.32.9. I installed the krylon360 stock+rom via odin with no change. I was going to try flashing a team whiskey rom onto it when I have time but wanted to check if this had been a problem for anyone else. I found one post somewhere that may point to a missing .dll but everything is fine when its plugged into power. I am lost.
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The phone runs on Android which does not utilize .dlls (dynamic link libraries; that's a Windows thing). KB5 is an old ROM. If you're trying to stay on Froyo right now, why not flash KD1 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063696), then do a factory data reset. See if that helps. If you plan on going to Gingerbread then we need to insure you flash a ROM with the correct boot loaders else you could get into the "rainbow screen", soft brick, bootloop, or something of the sort.

I am definitely going to upgrade the phone. I found another thread that had a problem that I also have but didn't mention the download mode problem. When I try to reinstall package I get the same message as this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800614
It ends with this message
_Install from sdcard....
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:failed to open/mnt/internal_sd/update.zip (No such file or directory)
I'm guessing the original owner of the phone boned something up and gave up on fixing it. I'm just getting back into android after a year trying to like the windows phone which is now my nemesis. I don't remember many of the lessons I learned from my Vibrant so any help getting this guy here on point would be much appreciated.

robthorn2010 said:
I am definitely going to upgrade the phone. I found another thread that had a problem that I also have but didn't mention the download mode problem. When I try to reinstall package I get the same message as this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800614
It ends with this message
_Install from sdcard....
Finding update package...
Opening update package...
Verifying update package...
E:failed to open/mnt/internal_sd/update.zip (No such file or directory)
I'm guessing the original owner of the phone boned something up and gave up on fixing it. I'm just getting back into android after a year trying to like the windows phone which is now my nemesis. I don't remember many of the lessons I learned from my Vibrant so any help getting this guy here on point would be much appreciated.
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Yeah, I don't recall that mount point on my phone. I think /sdcard is mounted to /mnt/sdcard. Did you try flashing the KD1 ROM I listed above? You'd have to do it from ODIN.
If you want to get on the latest, RaverX3X did a great favor to many and created an ODIN version of the latest release from Samsung (KJ6). It's found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353176

I just finished downloading the above file and will flash as soon as i get home. Thanks for all the help. I'm most def going to use the raver file.

robthorn2010 said:
I just finished downloading the above file and will flash as soon as i get home. Thanks for all the help. I'm most def going to use the raver file.
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Good luck. Let me know how it goes.

No change. I tried both roms and same result except for gingerbread being much faster. I am not rooted right now so I suppose I will try rooting and looking around my folders for anomolies? Could this be a hardware problem?

robthorn2010 said:
No change. I tried both roms and same result except for gingerbread being much faster. I am not rooted right now so I suppose I will try rooting and looking around my folders for anomolies? Could this be a hardware problem?
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Hard to say, though it seems odd that it reboots fine when plugged in. Aside from rooting & poking around maybe try installing chadster's KG4 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183413). Instead of just the PDA file, it has the partition information file (.pit), the PDA, CSC, & phone files. I wonder if flashing that might help? If you try it, just:
Put CODE_T959VUVKG4_CL1385158_REV00_user_low_noship.ta r.md5 in PDA
Put Hawk_Sidekick_VibrantPlus_831.pit in PIT
Put SGH-T959V-CSC-TMB-VIBRANTP.tar.md5 in CSC
Put T959VUVKG4-Phone-CL1037720.tar.md5 in PHONE
Let ODIN decide what needs to be checked & flash.
That backs you off of the latest version of GB, but if it works, you can reflash the KJ6 version afterward.

That sounds like a step in the right direction. I get the feeling something was missing in the phone file wise and needed a full redo to the most deep level. I have to wait til I get home to try. I am very anxious.

robthorn2010 said:
That sounds like a step in the right direction. I get the feeling something was missing in the phone file wise and needed a full redo to the most deep level. I have to wait til I get home to try. I am very anxious.
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I totally understand. I hope this works!

Nothing. Same result. Also now the gps has stopped working.

robthorn2010 said:
Nothing. Same result. Also now the gps has stopped working.
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Dang, we made it worse. Sorry about that. I'd definitely push KJ6 back onto it and factory data reset.
I'm wondering whether it would be worth a shot to flash one of drhonk's kernels (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194032) on it with CWM/Root/and voodoo. That way you can go into CWM recovery, wipe the cache, davlik cache, and fix the permissions.
IF you want to try it and see what happens before, download drhonk's KG4 kernel, put it in the PDA section of ODIN, and flash it. If you flash KJ6 first, you can ODIN his KJ1 ROM.
After doing it, boot the phone into recovery mode (you might have to use an app like quick boot), go to advanced, and fix permissions.

Op, you seem to be getting a lot of great help from Stephen, but did you get this working? if not follow the gb guide to flash both sets of bootloaders. wipe you're sd card. Now go back and return to froyo kd1 and use the official upgrade through kies. If that doesn't fix it, you have a hardware problem. After the upgrade to kj6 official, take it to a store and say it started happening once you upgraded
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LG-P870 LG Escape: How to root, KDZ and other info

Seeing as there isn't a section for the LG P870/LG Escape I'm going to try and get as much info condensed into one thread for now.
Not even sure how popular this phone is but, hopefully this will be of some use to someone.
KDZ:
I know this isn't posted anywhere so here is the v10f KDZ from LG. It is the latest firmware as of 11/6/2012:
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/WEBSW/LGP870/AATTBK/P87010f_00/P87010f_00.kdz
If you don't know how to flash a KDZ I will make a guide here soon. V10f is rootable using the method below as is v10c
Download Mode:
To get into download mode turn off your phone, press and hold the vol+ and vol- keys, with those held down insert the USB cable while continuing to hold down the keys. After a few seconds phone will enter download mode automatically.
Rooting:
I was able to root my phone that has v10c on it using this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31963526&postcount=532
I used 1.6 of the root script but some say that 1.2 works better for them. I would try 1.6 if that doesn't work try 1.2 if it fails the first time run it a second time and it should work.

Thanks! My wife just got this. I was able to root and update and retain root with OTA rootkeeper. Was looking for a kdz just in case. If there's enough interest i will see if i can port TWRP so we can cook up some custom roms.

I am definitely interested in custom roms, I have this device. Its not bad considering the price and what you get. 1494 on geekbench too! Pretty decent!
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Thanks for the effort

Aye guys I'm new into rooting and android in general, but I don't really understand how to root this phone. Kinda been looking around for a while and I was wondering if you can write some sort of guide. As of now I'm pretty lost the other threads aren't giving me any general information on exactly how to root the LG P870 or androids in general.
-Thanks
Btw I understand what exactly what rooting does to your device and the purpose of rooting, its just exactly how to root the device.

Well first things first do you have the android SDK installed on your computer

cyclejim said:
Well first things first do you have the android SDK installed on your computer
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Alright now what lol.
As of now I have Eclipse with android sdk installed on it and the newest version of java. Whats next, and spefically whats a KDZ and what is he talking about here:
Urabewe said:
Rooting:
I was able to root my phone that has v10c on it using this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31963526&postcount=532
I used 1.6 of the root script but some say that 1.2 works better for them. I would try 1.6 if that doesn't work try 1.2 if it fails the first time run it a second time and it should work.
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GHazard said:
Alright now what lol.
As of now I have Eclipse with android sdk installed on it and the newest version of java. Whats next, and spefically whats a KDZ and what is he talking about here:
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Download the zip and unzip it to your desktop. Go into your phone's settings and go to developers options. Turn on USB debugging. Go back to settings and go to security. Turn on unknown sources. Now plug your phone in and run the .bat file that you just unzipped. Follow the commands on the and that should be it. Good luck!

Thanks for the effort

GHazard said:
Alright now what lol.
As of now I have Eclipse with android sdk installed on it and the newest version of java. Whats next, and spefically whats a KDZ and what is he talking about here:
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KDZ is the LG format for ROMs which is the built in read only memory that hold the instructions for the phone to run the hardware and features.
But I just rooted my phone with a combination of the above files, and it didnt go exactly as I hoped. First I ran the v1.2 batch file linked above, (the 1.6 batch file archive is invalid and doesnt extract properly. It seemed like it ran properly, i did the restore (no data destructive you shouldnt lost any data) but I didnt have root when completed. Then I tried the v17 of the original thread which can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
That one also ran but failed at the end saying something about me not having root on the phone.
I than ran the v1.2 batch file not once, but twice in a row. The second time I found my phone operating in "emulator mode" in other words, it was running laggy as hell and very slow. I then ran the V17 batch file from the link above, and boom it worked. So as you can see it wasnt typical, but I think if you dont have success with the 1.2 the first time, run it again, if it still didnt work, try running v17 like i did. I now have root and my phone is working fine.

Basically, I got the Escape then got the Nexus7 and have been involved in that. Really haven't been doing much with the Escape. I will be looking into more for everyone and hopefully get a custom recovery at the very least. Then at that point we can start thinking about rom. Until then we are stuck with what we have. I will get more info for everyone , till then this is what we have. If you think you can help go for it. If not sorry but this is the best info there is for our phone . I will positively without a doubt post any new info here so if that's what you are looking for this is the right place until then, thank you and you are welcome.
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Download the zip and unzip it to your desktop. Go into your phone's settings and go to developers options. Turn on USB debugging. Go back to settings and go to security. Turn on unknown sources. Now plug your phone in and run the .bat file that you just unzipped. Follow the commands on the and that should be it. Good luck!
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So when I run the .bat file do I just run it in cmd? I'm kinda knew at this lol.
Also does my phone have to be in download mode?
Sorry for the inconvenience but where exactly do I run the .bat file?
-Thanks
One more thing I never downloaded a .zip or .rar file.. Could you please leave me a link?

Rooted
Thanks people I guess I just needed time to figure it out lol. I ran it in cmd twice(1.2v) but not right after each other and the second time it worked thanks guys.
Well. I tried to install beats audio but now it won't even load up just boot loops when it gets to at&t...

Bricked
Great the first bricked lg p870 lol, anyone know how to fix this. Or is it just a brick?

Sorry for the repititive posts, but so far I have gotten my device to read by my computer. The only thing is I can see it in the Device manager but it never shows up in my computer. It also picks the phone up in cmd, is there sometype of command I can run to flash the device and put it back to normal?

GHazard said:
Sorry for the repititive posts, but so far I have gotten my device to read by my computer. The only thing is I can see it in the Device manager but it never shows up in my computer. It also picks the phone up in cmd, is there sometype of command I can run to flash the device and put it back to normal?
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No command. You need to flash the kdz using lg flash tool.
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Markyzz said:
No command. You need to flash the kdz using lg flash tool.
Sent from my MB886 using xda premium
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Is their a guide on how to flash the device using the kdz flash tool? I mean my phone won't turn on though. It goes into the lg logo then just goes black (the back light is still on).

K I have all the tools but
I downloaded every tool from this thread
But in the PDF guides it says to put the phone in Upgrade mode by removing the SIM, battery and SDC(Micro sd card?) so I did that. Then insert the usb while holding the Volume Up button. All that happens on my phone is the home keys on the bottom just flash. And my phone doesn't connect to my computer either.

My Notes on LG P870
Ok I have fixed my device, well twice now. It seems whenever you try to change any file within the root it restarts, then boot loops. I tried too change a font using Rom Toolbox, it restarted then boot looped. I rooted the device using the 1.2v script once, but this time I'll try 1.7v and see if I can change fonts etc.
Are any of you guys having any problem with this?
If you do, and you are soft bricked just:
Download UPK 3.7.1
Then open up LG /mobile Update
Click Install Drivers(Make sure your phone is not connected) Choose your phone and carrier
Let that finish(Gonna take awhile you have to install all of them)
Then click Install updates...Done

Worked
Posting confirmation for an LG Escape (p870). 10f rooted using the tools linked in first post. Used version 1.2 to start and had to use the version 17 of the other rooting kit to finalize like another user encountered as well. Thanks will be given if they haven't been yet.

[Q] New Member of the Club, now Rooting but not flashing

Hi guys since today im a proud owner of a Galaxy Note 10.1 N8000 stock 4.1.2, but now comes the question, is it possible to Root it without flashing anything?
I only need root access to install a few apps, FolderMount, Titanium, Root explorer, etc.
I own too a Galaxy S2 that I rooted by the method of "rooting without flashing unsecure kernel" is it possible to apply the same method to the Note 10.1?
THANKS for any help given.

pedrohell said:
Hi guys since today im a proud owner of a Galaxy Note 10.1 N8000 stock 4.1.2, but now comes the question, is it possible to Root it without flashing anything?
I only need root access to install a few apps, FolderMount, Titanium, Root explorer, etc.
I own too a Galaxy S2 that I rooted by the method of "rooting without flashing unsecure kernel" is it possible to apply the same method to the Note 10.1?
THANKS for any help given.
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Welcome to the club. Take a look at all the sections for the tablet and make sure you read the stickies too.
Method #2 and youl be good to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152

I had already read that stickie and if I have correctly read, Method 2 (and the others) involves Odin and flashing something and that is what I dont want.
Isnt there a way to root without flashing?

pedrohell said:
I had already read that stickie and if I have correctly read, Method 2 (and the others) involves Odin and flashing something and that is what I dont want.
Isnt there a way to root without flashing?
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Let me ask you this, why no flashing? As far as I know it's either Odin or flash. You need to get a custom recovery on it in order to root.
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Also with the s2 the recovery and kernel are in one. This is not.

Thanks for your help and time spent helping me, but I think I will pass the root on the Note, I thought there was a more easier/safe method like that on the S2.
Thanks

pedrohell said:
Thanks for your help and time spent helping me, but I think I will pass the root on the Note, I thought there was a more easier/safe method like that on the S2.
Thanks
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No problem, but it don't get any easier than odin or recovery.

pedrohell said:
Thanks for your help and time spent helping me, but I think I will pass the root on the Note, I thought there was a more easier/safe method like that on the S2.
Thanks
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There was an Exynos exploit method but Samsung patched the security hole a few updates ago.
The method in the link that was posted does alter your flash count and that can be correct but you are the owner of the device and if you are not comfortable flashing you tablet I wouldn't.
I have flashed mine and tried a few rom's but I always ended up resetting my flash counter and going back to stock.
Folder mount works great and that was the reason I rooted in the first place but you can store your files on the ext drive and transfer them back and forth manually but I found with my fast wifi I'm better off re-downloading the data along with "Helium - App Sync and Backup" to backup and restore my data and you do not need root, only draw back is that you have to have a computer connection for backup and restore to work.
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Yes, its just a matter of not feeling confortable, and there is also the risk of blocking the camera. (had a similar issue with 4.1.2 on S2 needed to downgrade to 4.0.4).
But it seeems to me a bit odd that to grant root access we need to flash the rom.

I don't think you read that right. You're not flashing a ROM, just a custom recovery through ODIN, then a root app. It's actually very simple. (Any simpler and I would be concerned about rogue app exploits)
Fyi: I'm also new to Samsung devices and bought my tablet this week. Rooted it this morning by following the stickies, but sticking with the stock ROM for now. I'm more than happy with the tablet so far.
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pedrohell said:
Yes, its just a matter of not feeling confortable, and there is also the risk of blocking the camera. (had a similar issue with 4.1.2 on S2 needed to downgrade to 4.0.4).
But it seeems to me a bit odd that to grant root access we need to flash the rom.
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There is no flashing a rom with method 2. You Odin the custom recovery then you have to flash the superuser into the system. You need superuser to get root and Odin is the easiest way.
Trust me we have all been in your shoes about being nervous, I've been doing this a long time and this method is really easy.

You can also use this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
It does require ODIN but as has been stated this is the norm. You are not replacing any kernels or flashing another rom, you are just adding the root components. Using this method also leaves stock recovery intact...
If you woory about flash counter then run triangleaway after to reset the flash counter and recoveries....
I found doing this, doing a factory reset from settings then reflashing the Stock rom using Mobile ODIN pro gave me a stock standard, but rooted, rom with all statuses "Official" and 0 flash count....
A lot of work I know but then worthwhile things generally require it...

Ok, I followed the Method 2 made everything like on video, after pressing Power+Volume Up, I entered on STOCK Recovery, not the CWM,even so, I apply the .zip and I get:
MANUAL MODE
--Appling Multi-CSC....
Applied the CSC-code:LUX
Successfully applied multi-CSC.
--Install /sdcard....
Finding update package....
Opening update package....
Verifying update package.....
E:FAILED TO VERIFY WHOLE-FILE SIGNATURE
E:FAILED TO VERIFY WHOLE-FILE SIGNATURE
E:signature verification failed
I also retryed and turned off auto-reboot in Odin before starting the process but I get the same thing, now what should I do?
Its not rootable?

Ok, Its finally rooted, What I had to do,
On Odin unthick auto-reboot, When Odin finished doing its thing, dont shutdown the Tablet but press Power+Volume Up and go directly to CWM recovery and there follow the rest of instructions.
Thanks to everybody that took time to help me, thats why I love this forum.
A BIG THANK YOU.

pedrohell said:
I had already read that stickie and if I have correctly read, Method 2 (and the others) involves Odin and flashing something and that is what I dont want.
Isnt there a way to root without flashing?
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I see that I'm probably too late now to answer the OP.
But maybe others can be interested.
I find that the easiest way to root (without odin and without installing a custom recovery) is Framaroot.
It uses some Exynos exploits, and has been also recently updated by the developer to counteract Samsung's patches.
It may work or it may not work on some devices and with some of the more recent firmware.
In any case giving it a try doesn't cost anything. It's just an app.
If it works the app can also be used to temporarily remove the root.
For me it worked with Firmware N8000XXCLL3 and I know that it works with some more recent fw too.
Furthermore it doesn't change the counter and even the Devices Status remains "Official". Well, actually the devices status may change to "Custom" after few days with the tablet on, but it returns Official after a simple reboot.

pedrohell said:
Ok, Its finally rooted, What I had to do,
On Odin unthick auto-reboot, When Odin finished doing its thing, dont shutdown the Tablet but press Power+Volume Up and go directly to CWM recovery and there follow the rest of instructions.
Thanks to everybody that took time to help me, thats why I love this forum.
A BIG THANK YOU.
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Awesome to hear! I ran into the same thing you did, forgot to go straight to recovery from odin.
Enjoy!

Stuck
Please help..
I get this error when i try to install: View attachment 2066244
What did i do wrong ?

brix696 said:
Please help..
I get this error when i try to install: View attachment 2066244
What did i do wrong ?
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I don't use CWM, but see if there is a signature seeing to turn it off. Also make sure your md5 of the zip is correct.

brix696 said:
Please help..
I get this error when i try to install: View attachment 2066244
What did i do wrong ?
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What were your options on the page right before that? What option did you select to initiate that?
Maybe try using the files from here instead:
http://droidviews.com/2013/root-and...ung-galaxy-note-10-1-n8000-n8010-n8013-n8020/

bigtoysrock said:
I don't use CWM, but see if there is a signature seeing to turn it off. Also make sure your md5 of the zip is correct.
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Where should i look for a signature ? I have downloaded the file 3 times, just to manke sure that i wasen't bad.
Before that, it was the page where i choose "apply update from external storage"
I have tryed the CF, still the same

brix696 said:
Where should i look for a signature ? I have downloaded the file 3 times, just to manke sure that i wasen't bad.
Before that, it was the page where i choose "apply update from external storage"
I have tryed the CF, still the same
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I would use the touch cwm, and what rom are you trying to install?

[Q] How to take OTA update after Sunshine

Please forgive me for having to ask what I'm sure sounds like a stupid question, but I have no idea how to accept the OTA update Verizon is attempting to send me to version 4.4.4 on my HTC One M8 now that I have used Sunshine to attain S-Off and have TWRP and SuperSU installed.
I have used ADB, but am not very familiar with it at all.
I saw threads talking about flashing ROMS, but for the most part it really seems like Greek to me.
I had only gone down the Sunshine road because I wanted root access mainly for one app--Lightflow. In retrospect I'm feeling like I opened a can of worms. But the can is open, and the worms are out there, so now I need to learn how to handle them.
I know I am supposed to keep S-off, no matter what I do. I think perhaps I'm supposed to revert back somehow to a "stock" bootloader (instead of TWRP--is that right?) but I don't have any idea how to do that (though I expect ADB is involved), and I also don't know what effect that would have on SuperSu, as I vaguely recall TWRP may have been required for SuperSU to work.
I'm really lost.
Any help, in very easy to understand terms (pretend you're trying to explain this to your grandmother) would be appreciated.
Thanks!

Andyw2100 said:
Please forgive me for having to ask what I'm sure sounds like a stupid question, but I have no idea how to accept the OTA update Verizon is attempting to send me to version 4.4.4 on my HTC One M8 now that I have used Sunshine to attain S-Off and have TWRP and SuperSU installed.
I have used ADB, but am not very familiar with it at all.
I saw threads talking about flashing ROMS, but for the most part it really seems like Greek to me.
I had only gone down the Sunshine road because I wanted root access mainly for one app--Lightflow. In retrospect I'm feeling like I opened a can of worms. But the can is open, and the worms are out there, so now I need to learn how to handle them.
I know I am supposed to keep S-off, no matter what I do. I think perhaps I'm supposed to revert back somehow to a "stock" bootloader (instead of TWRP--is that right?) but I don't have any idea how to do that (though I expect ADB is involved), and I also don't know what effect that would have on SuperSu, as I vaguely recall TWRP may have been required for SuperSU to work.
I'm really lost.
Any help, in very easy to understand terms (pretend you're trying to explain this to your grandmother) would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Taking the OTA is simple, you'll need your stock 4.4.3 recovery installed not TWRP. If you try to take it as you are right now it will fail everytime because of TWRP. I'm going to assume you haven't modified your stock ROM in anyway so accept the OTA and let it install. You will not lose S-OFF so rooting is simple. Reinstall TWRP and flash the latest SuperSU zip file.

The Stig 04 said:
Taking the OTA is simple, you'll need your stock 4.4.3 recovery installed not TWRP. If you try to take it as you are right now it will fail everytime because of TWRP. I'm going to assume you haven't modified your stock ROM in anyway so accept the OTA and let it install. You will not lose S-OFF so rooting is simple. Reinstall TWRP and flash the latest SuperSU zip file.
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Thanks for the response.
So the question is how do I go back to my stock recovery instead of TWRP?
And then after taking the update, what do I need to do to reinstall TWRP and then flash the latest SuperSU.zip file?
I realize I should know this stuff, but I had help from the Sunshine folks last time, so I really don't remember everything that went on, or exactly what I did vs. what they did, etc.
Thanks again!

Andyw2100 said:
Thanks for the response.
So the question is how do I go back to my stock recovery instead of TWRP?
And then after taking the update, what do I need to do to reinstall TWRP and then flash the latest SuperSU.zip file?
I realize I should know this stuff, but I had help from the Sunshine folks last time, so I really don't remember everything that went on, or exactly what I did vs. what they did, etc.
Thanks again!
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You don't need to do any of that.
Download the exe from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56211035
run it and you will be on stock 4.4.4.
To get TWRP back you have to flash it fastboot (lots of tutorials all over the forum for that) and with the recovery installed you can just flash SuperSU in recovery to gain root again.

The Stig 04 said:
Taking the OTA is simple, you'll need your stock 4.4.3 recovery installed not TWRP. If you try to take it as you are right now it will fail everytime because of TWRP. I'm going to assume you haven't modified your stock ROM in anyway so accept the OTA and let it install. You will not lose S-OFF so rooting is simple. Reinstall TWRP and flash the latest SuperSU zip file.
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berndblb said:
You don't need to do any of that.
Download the exe from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56211035
run it and you will be on stock 4.4.4.
To get TWRP back you have to flash it fastboot (lots of tutorials all over the forum for that) and with the recovery installed you can just flash SuperSU in recovery to gain root again.
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Thanks. That thread says that using that .exe is going to wipe my phone, which would then mean I need to restore it from a backup. I think I'd really just rather take the OTA update to 4.4.4, since in the future I'm going to want to take other OTA updates as well. So if I can learn how to return to my stock recovery now, and the rest of it for this OTA update, I should be good to go for future OTA updates.
Thanks, though.
So my questions above remain about how to revert to the stock recovery, and then how to reinstall TWRP and SuperSU.
Thanks!

Andyw2100 said:
Thanks. That thread says that using that .exe is going to wipe my phone, which would then mean I need to restore it from a backup. I think I'd really just rather take the OTA update to 4.4.4, since in the future I'm going to want to take other OTA updates as well. So if I can learn how to return to my stock recovery now, and the rest of it for this OTA update, I should be good to go for future OTA updates.
Thanks, though.
So my questions above remain about how to revert to the stock recovery, and then how to reinstall TWRP and SuperSU.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
Download the file "Stock Recovery 4.4.3" from the thread above. Flash that using ADB, once you take the OTA and are on 4.4.4 Flash TWRP using ADB again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Download SuperSu from the thread above and place that in your SD Card. Boot into recovery and install it. Though you should already have this on your computer or SD Card.
Edit: I believe there is an even easier way, just have never done it/tried it so I don't wanna lie and act like I know what to do.

The Stig 04 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
Download the file "Stock Recovery 4.4.3" from the thread above. Flash that using ADB, once you take the OTA and are on 4.4.4 Flash TWRP using ADB again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Download SuperSu from the thread above and place that in your SD Card. Boot into recovery and install it.
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You have to flash the stock recovery in fastboot - not ADB. And you gotta make sure all the bloatware that comes with the original stock rom is in place or the OTA will fail (it does a "system integrity check" prior to applying the OTA). That can be a headache if you do not have a backup of apps you may have removed...
Each future update will be available within days of release here on XDA, either as a standalone firmware update or stock rooted rom or both. I would not take OTAs - ever.
Develop a solid backup routine and restoring your device is a 20 minute exercise...

Thanks to both of you.
I don't believe I removed any bloatware, so I think the OTA update should work.
How do I flash the stock recovery in fastboot?
Again, many thanks!

I just checked my ADB folder, and see a fastboot.exe there, so I imagine it's just a command like ADB. I'll give this a shot later. Again, many thanks to both of you for the assistance. I will post again with, hopefully, my good results, or with additional questions.
Thanks!

berndblb said:
You have to flash the stock recovery in fastboot - not ADB. And you gotta make sure all the bloatware that comes with the original stock rom is in place or the OTA will fail (it does a "system integrity check" prior to applying the OTA). That can be a headache if you do not have a backup of apps you may have removed...
Each future update will be available within days of release here on XDA, either as a standalone firmware update or stock rooted rom or both. I would not take OTAs - ever.
Develop a solid backup routine and restoring your device is a 20 minute exercise...
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Sorry I thought fastboot and ADB was kinda that same thing seeing as it was refereed to as "fastboot/adb directory"? If not my bad! Also this is the method I always use to take OTA's and have never ever had a problem.

Andyw2100 said:
I just checked my ADB folder, and see a fastboot.exe there, so I imagine it's just a command like ADB. I'll give this a shot later. Again, many thanks to both of you for the assistance. I will post again with, hopefully, my good results, or with additional questions.
Thanks!
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Put the recovery image into the same folder with your fastboot.exe
Open a command prompt from that folder (shift + right click > open cmd window here)
check connection with
Code:
fastboot devices
if successful
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fastboot flash recovery <name of recovery>.img

Would you need to remove root before taking the OTA? Just curious.
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mumbles202 said:
Would you need to remove root before taking the OTA? Just curious.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using xda app-developers app
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No. You will lose root after the ota so it doesn't matter but you can always get it back as long as you are S-OFF by flashing a custom recovery like TWRP and then flashing SuperSu.

Well, I have run into a snag right off the bat.
While the command "ADB Devices" sees the phone, "Fastboot Devices" does not.
Any ideas as to how to rectify this?
Thanks!

I did some googling, and this problem I solved on my own.
I had to use adb to get into fastboot USB mode or something with adb reboot bootloader, and then fastboot devices worked.
I'm now continuing on.

Well, so much for this being easy.
I believe I successfully flashed my stock recovery.
But apparently I no longer have the OTA update ready to install, as at some point I tried to run it again just to get TWRP up, and now it's not showing as available. And when I try to check for updates in Settings/Software update/Check new I get an error message that says Download Unsuccessful. We were not able to download this update.
For now I guess I'll wait and see if Verizon tries to send me the update again, or if it works if I check for it myself some other time. (Or if anyone here has any suggestions.)
Also, I still seem to have root access. I thought that I wouldn't, since I believe I have replaced TWRP with the stock recovery.

I'm also now getting a constant error message about Google Play Services having stopped. And my wi-fi doesn't seem to be connecting properly.
I'm really wondering just what the heck I've done.

Well, for anyone still following my saga...
Things are somewhat better, but not totally resolved.
I kept checking, and eventually I was able to download the OTA update to 4.4.4. I did, I updated, and all went smoothly. I then was able to flash TWRP and then install Super SU and I have root access again. So on that front, all is well.
The problems that remain, though, are that I still am having issues with Google Play Services quitting and my Wi Fi not connecting. Could these things be related somehow? I've tried clearing the cache and then actually all data from Google Play services, but that has not helped. I have deleted my networks, and then tried reconnecting to them, but that also has not helped. It shows my networks in range as "saved" or "disabled" but won't connect to any of them.
Any ideas for me?
Thanks.
And thanks for the help in getting the 4.4.4 OTA update. At least that worked!

I realize I am basically having a conversation with myself at this point, but just to wrap things up, in case anyone does come along and read any of this...
I have solved all my issues.
The Google Play Services issue must have been related to the Wi-Fi not connecting, and the Wi-Fi not connecting was due to my main network actually having an issue and the fact that I had never authorized the phone on the other networks. I guess this is what happens after being up almost 24 hours. At least I think everything is OK now.
Again, thanks to those that helped!

Andyw2100 said:
I realize I am basically having a conversation with myself at this point, but just to wrap things up, in case anyone does come along and read any of this...
I have solved all my issues.
The Google Play Services issue must have been related to the Wi-Fi not connecting, and the Wi-Fi not connecting was due to my main network actually having an issue and the fact that I had never authorized the phone on the other networks. I guess this is what happens after being up almost 24 hours. At least I think everything is OK now.
Again, thanks to those that helped!
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Not sure why I stopped receiving notifications from your thread. But at least you got your phone in working order! lol