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Apologies if this has been posted but I have just seen that HTC has not mentioned the desire S in its list of devices to receive ICS. Whether this will be added later I'm not quite sure but for now it'll have to be custom roms I guess
HTC knows how excited our fans are to get their hands on Google's latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, so we're thrilled today to announce the first wave of HTC phones that will receive upgrades: We can confirm the brand new HTC Vivid is upgradeable to Ice Cream Sandwich. In addition, Ice Cream Sandwich is coming in early 2012 to a variety of devices including the HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation XL and HTC Sensation XE, as well as the HTC Rezound, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G and HTC Amaze 4G through close integration with our carrier partners. We're continuing to assess our product portfolio, so stay tuned for more updates on device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Ice Cream Sandwich.
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT EXCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE DESIRE S RECEIVING ICE CREAM SANDWICH
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dan-fish said:
Apologies if this has been posted but I have just seen that HTC has not mentioned the desire S in its list of devices to receive ICS. Whether this will be added later I'm not quite sure but for now it'll have to be custom roms I guess
HTC knows how excited our fans are to get their hands on Google's latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, so we're thrilled today to announce the first wave of HTC phones that will receive upgrades: We can confirm the brand new HTC Vivid is upgradeable to Ice Cream Sandwich. In addition, Ice Cream Sandwich is coming in early 2012 to a variety of devices including the HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation XL and HTC Sensation XE, as well as the HTC Rezound, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G and HTC Amaze 4G through close integration with our carrier partners. We're continuing to assess our product portfolio, so stay tuned for more updates on device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Ice Cream Sandwich.
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well DS is not on HTC unlock list too but works...If HTC Sensation receive ICS we will have quality port i'm sure but lets hope that we will get official version too
It says in its 1st wave ,doesn't say that's all that will get ICS
I personally think that we will get it as the DS can handle it, plus thats not every device that is getting it.
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That's why I said I'm not sure whether more devices will be added. I probably should've been a little clearer in the title.
I shall amend it
I just figured this was worth mentioning
Besides who knows how long we'll have to wait for an official release
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Honestly.. I can't see a HTC update to Ice Cream sandwich giving us much more than we already have because they'll overwrite most of the improvements with the Sense bloat. (Don't get me wrong, Sense adds something, but ICS appears to have more improvements on top of that)
We already have CyanogenMod, so it'll just be a case of waiting until the source is out and it's merged with the CM repos and we can install nighties, and off we go!
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Honestly.. I can't see a HTC update to Ice Cream sandwich giving us much more than we already have because they'll overwrite most of the improvements with the Sense bloat. (Don't get me wrong, Sense adds something, but ICS appears to have more improvements on top of that)
We already have CyanogenMod, so it'll just be a case of waiting until the source is out and it's merged with the CM repos and we can install nighties, and off we go!
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I'm def in the Sense camp so it will be interesting to see what they come up with
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dan-fish said:
That's why I said I'm not sure whether more devices will be added. I probably should've been a little clearer in the title.
I shall amend it
I just figured this was worth mentioning
Besides who knows how long we'll have to wait for an official release
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Sorry Dan didn't mean to sound narky, and yeah hell will probably freeze over before they get around to releasing it 'officially' to us
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I'm def in the Sense camp so it will be interesting to see what they come up with
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Sorry Dan didn't mean to sound narky, and yeah hell will probably freeze over before they get around to releasing it 'officially' to us
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It's cool. I made it sound like there was no chance of the DS receiving it so i kinda deserved it
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HTC have to provide an ICS update to the desire S otherwise they will be breaching Google's update policy/ anti fragmentation initiative. These state that all android handset manufactures who release a phone anytime from Q2 2011 onwards MUST guarantee that they they provide updates to the latest version of android for the first 18 months frmo the release date of the phone. Members of the Open Handset Alliance (which HTC is a member) all had to agree on this to google. Desire S was released in April 2011, that means it fits into the Q2 section.
Whaaaaat?
They are crazy!!!!!!!!!!
They HAVE TO update our device.
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It's too early to tell. Who knows. lol
http://www.engadget.com/updates/which-devices-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
Wait & see. Maybe the second wave.
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So the HTC Evo Design 4G is supported with its 1.2Ghz cpu.
I believe the devs can port it from there to nearly every 2010 phone from Htc (except the really low ends; like Wildfire, Salsa and Chacha)
I really don´t see how that 200Mhz should make the difference between an HTC approved Android Experience and a sluggish Custom Rom.
I wonder if a tweaked DHD with ~1.8Ghz will beat any of the new devices on Stock-Ics.
Damn. I want ICs + sennse .
Sad to say, I don't think we will get it
However they did say they will support phone with updates 18 months upon release date.
Theoretically they should release this for the Wildfire/chacha/salsa too...
I how HTC doesn't let us down!
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I don't think HTC would leave the device without even one single update.
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I don't think HTC would leave the device without even one single update.
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We got an update. We got Sense 3.0
Putzy said:
We got an update. We got Sense 3.0
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Exactly... So I doubt we will get another update now hopefully HTC change their mind like they did about sense 3.0 only being dual core supported ...
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olyloh6696 said:
Exactly... So I doubt we will get another update now
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We shouldn't jump to any conclusions, but if this is the case then after only six months they affectively abandoned software updates for the Desire S. That would be a disgrace.
The problem with HTC is, as good as their phones are, they're over-saturating the market with too many handsets (from an update point of view).
Anyway, I guess we won't know until the next "wave" is announced.
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We shouldn't jump to any conclusions, but if this is the case then after only six months they affectively abandoned software updates for the Desire S. That would be a disgrace.
The problem with HTC is, as good as their phones are, they're over-saturating the market with too many handsets (from an update point of view).
Anyway, I guess we won't know until the next "wave" is announced.
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I agree - they have far too many phones on the market now ..
It makes it much harder for them to keep up with updates faster than they are making the phones !
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hope that they will update us asap that "first wave" and stay tuned sounds like there's a chance that we will see ICS if I'm not wrong nexus s has similar spec 1ghz and smaller RAM (don't know much about differences in chip's and graphs) but hope to see sum ICS on our desires s cheers
DEAR USERS OF SENSATION,
Last week I opened this post concerning the release of the final ICS release, this post got a lot of exposure on some blogs and sites, and also the HTC facebook page, thanks to this, two HTC employees contacted me, one person very high up in the UK, and also someone in the USA as well.
What was said, is, sort of what the memos that I seen were true, but there is still very many bugs in the firmwares, reported by users, reps, employees, there is still going to be at least another beta release, which will be around the 26th Jan (my date that I said), HTC do actively watch forums like XDA, Modaco etc to see users reactions, and how the developers mend and correct the bugs.
The dates for the Final UK releases should be between End Jan-Start March 2012, In this time, the developers in Taiwan, the Developers in USA, testers etc will finish the final version.
People who have sim-free and 'vanilla' phones will get the update first, operator also get a version, and they can customise as they do, and do in-house testing, US networks will push out the update the same time as the UK networks.
The Final HTC ICS UPDATE will contain :
*Sense 3.5
*Roboto Font
*ICS Music Player, Browser, New Style Settings
*FaceUnlock and Much More.
Sense 4.0 may, I was told, be coming to Sensations, Its going to be the future UI of HTC phones in the future.
Not much more to add, so this post is now being closed, If you want, Private message me, and we can talk more, but please, no flaming or abuse, otherwise you will be reported. Thank you!
I noticed that you are from the UK, is that for TMOUS as well?
Hope this isn't a bs rumor, or I'll have to kill you!
I've stuck with sense 3.0 because it's battery life is amazing (24hrs+ ALL the time) and it's stable. I liked sense 3.5 a lot more but it sucked! If an official ICS comes out, i'd love that. Patiently waiting and still waiting! I hope youre not lying!
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As you might/might not know, I work in a fairly large phone shop, and have been keeping quiet as when Ice Cream Sandwich, today, well, a hour ago, we had a HTC rep come in to bring a sensation XL for our display, and a XE, running the final ICS version, everything works, no bugs, nothing, more than his jobs worth he told me that within two weeks it will be released, was shown quite a few memos from HTC on this....wonder if its true.....looked very good only gripe or problems that I had, was it had sense 3.5 on top of ICS.....
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do you know rom version number?
biggary said:
As you might/might not know, I work in a fairly large phone shop, and have been keeping quiet as when Ice Cream Sandwich, today, well, a hour ago, we had a HTC rep come in to bring a sensation XL for our display, and a XE, running the final ICS version, everything works, no bugs, nothing, more than his jobs worth he told me that within two weeks it will be released, was shown quite a few memos from HTC on this....wonder if its true.....looked very good only gripe or problems that I had, was it had sense 3.5 on top of ICS.....
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This is great news. I am waiting for the official ICS update for my Sensation.
I dont know much more, than it will be sensation/xl/xe - uk, no idea about tmous, i was too excited, only got a quick look at version number, it was 4.03 but the version number was later than the latest leaked RUU, and it was released to him yesterday (tuesday lunchtime), he also had a box with him with HTC and ruby on the box (anyone any idea what that is???) sorry I cant tell more, thats all I could get, sorry!
wow probably someone will leak the official ruu in these days!
As much as HTC may release it in the next 14 days, no doubt the operators will have to mess it up for a bit yet!
Anything special in ICS for the Sensation? Or just support for the latest APIs?
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he also had a box with him with HTC and ruby on the box (anyone any idea what that is???)
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The code name for the HTC Amaze 4G (a T-Mobile USA) exclusive was HTC Ruby. Perhaps it's being released in the UK?
gumbois said:
As much as HTC may release it in the next 14 days, no doubt the operators will have to mess it up for a bit yet!
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Yeah Uk networks are terrible, especially if you are a orange user
hy, will that update for ICS be availabel in Croatia
Really? Glade mine is unlocked and on o2
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Does it look way different than our latest leak ?????? Plsss tell us more....
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Do you know if it will be on that date just for UK or olso for the rest of Europe at the same time
Great news if it's accurate. I'm on a sim free UK handset ..... fingers crossed!
biggary said:
As you might/might not know, I work in a fairly large phone shop, and have been keeping quiet as when Ice Cream Sandwich, today, well, a hour ago, we had a HTC rep come in to bring a sensation XL for our display, and a XE, running the final ICS version, everything works, no bugs, nothing, more than his jobs worth he told me that within two weeks it will be released, was shown quite a few memos from HTC on this....wonder if its true.....looked very good only gripe or problems that I had, was it had sense 3.5 on top of ICS.....
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good news, hope you don't get in trouble for sharing this with the rest of the world
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Yeah Uk networks are terrible, especially if you are a orange user
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I got my XE direct from the orange store online, but it is sim free and has the CID of HTC_001. As far as I'm aware that is WWE Europe. I assume that I will get the update when its pushed rather than having to wait for orange to mess with it? Can someone correct me if I'm wrong
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Hopefully. Mine has the same cid
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just asked a dutch vodafone employee and he doesnt know anything about the new xe or the final ICS update..
so i hope you are right and we can see a RUU in the next 14 days with the final ICS
According to @HTC_NL, the sensation range of devices will receive the ICS update soon (before the 1st of March). On the 1st of March an ice white sensation will be released in Holland.
Link here (it's in Dutch of course): http://www.whizpr.nl/persberichten/8268
Article from tweakers.net (source):
HTC provides users of the Dutch Sensation, Sensation Sensation XL and XE soon an update to Android 4.0 ICS. On March 1 also appears that a white Sensation Android 4.0 already installed.
To update existing devices called HTC no period, the manufacturer has only said that "soon" will take place. The update was on the air offered to users. It is still unclear whether the devices with the update to ICS also immediately be provided with Sense 4.0.
About new features in Android 4.0 version of HTC Sense is still little known, HTC has just announced that shortcuts at the bottom can be adjusted by the user. Recently there appeared images of the new version of Sense, showed that the appearance, colors and screen animations differ from both Android 4.0 and the current versions of Sense.
HTC Sensation spent the last year in June from 2.3 with Android. Last autumn there were the Sensation XE and XL on the Sensation. The Sensation runs on a Qualcomm MSM8260 dual-core SOC running at 1.2 GHz. The GPU is an Adreno 220. The phone has a 4.3 "LCD with a resolution of 960x540 pixels. The camera has a maximum resolution of 8 megapixels and shoots video at 1080p with 30fps.
The manufacturer will this spring, next to the white Sensation, presumably releasing new models. These will most likely at the Mobile World Congress telecommunication fair, which takes place later this month in Barcelona, are presented
Nevermind, HTC has clarified that the phone will be coming with 2.3 and will be upgradeable to 4.0 ... lame.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/2/27...nching-in-white-with-android-4-0-on-march-1st
aNYthing24 said:
Nevermind, HTC has clarified that the phone will be coming with 2.3 and will be upgradeable to 4.0 ... lame.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/2/27...nching-in-white-with-android-4-0-on-march-1st
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Thank you! This'll help tell me what rumors are fake sooner!(assuming the site isn't providing us with false information!) It'll be a long wait However, ty devs for sharing the leaks. They work pretty damn good so far!
lu1gj3s said:
According to @HTC_NL, the sensation range of devices will receive the ICS update soon (before the 1st of March). On the 1st of March an ice white sensation will be released in Holland.
Link here (it's in Dutch of course): http://www.whizpr.nl/persberichten/8268
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This would be awesome, as they would release kernel sources with this phone which might be compatible with the original Sensation/Sensation XE... which would allow better custom kernels for ICS which is the only thing wrong with [email protected] at the moment! (apart from the *few* minor bugs )
I wont hold my breath that it will be soon
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There will be not ICS on 1 March, on XE White. R u blind all? Read!
Update: HTC just wrote us to say that its original press release was incorrect — it'll actually ship with Android 2.3 and be upgradeable to 4.0 down the road, just as its other Sensation versions will be. In other words, don't expect an ICS-equipped Sensation on March 1st... but you can expect a white one with Gingerbread. Furthermore, the white Sensation is already available in select markets, so the PR is simply announcing its upcoming availability in Benelux. Now, the question becomes: how much longer is the wait for the upgrade?
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C'mon...when it goes live, it will...
Counting will make you nervous and nothing else...root it and have it right now...
And, be careful what you wish for cause you just might get it...
hexen88 said:
There will be not ICS on 1 March, on XE White. R u blind all? Read!
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Yes how retarded of people not pre-emptively predicting an updated article.
Take a chill pill.
Im seriously not impressed with the way HTC are masking ICS, AOSP ICS is a beautiful thing, so can sense be, but htc have gone about it all wrong with sense 3.6 and 4, I think im steering away from HTC slowly but surely, and can almost guarantee that I will be going AOSP ICS when it is stable!
Oh man, there is 3 threads about "1 march ics", and one opened after 1st etc... noone sees that article is updated? Or even that some thrads r arleady open with updated information? Please...
drivexcore said:
Im seriously not impressed with the way HTC are masking ICS, AOSP ICS is a beautiful thing, so can sense be, but htc have gone about it all wrong with sense 3.6 and 4, I think im steering away from HTC slowly but surely, and can almost guarantee that I will be going AOSP ICS when it is stable!
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You can say that again...
I like sense functionality, unlike its skining...it would be nice if they keep sense with AOSP design...
I like the ROM's that are already out there, and as posted above as soon as AOSP is stable I'll be going to that.
On the other hand I wonder what's taking HTC so long, we have devs that do this for fun and they're releasing great ROMs and here you got a major company that you would think have lots of professional devs that do this for a living and they take forever.
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On the other hand I wonder what's taking HTC so long, we have devs that do this for fun and they're releasing great ROMs and here you got a major company that you would think have lots of professional devs that do this for a living and they take forever.
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A chef here has to make a rom which is pre made and stable and tweaks it. If it works for 99% of the users it's good. Htc has to release a rom which work for 100% of the users.
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felixoanta said:
On the other hand I wonder what's taking HTC so long, we have devs that do this for fun and they're releasing great ROMs and here you got a major company that you would think have lots of professional devs that do this for a living and they take forever.
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You forget that it isn not just a phone software that they need to update and polish, they need to sort out all cloud services that their ecosystem is all about (eg facebook for HTC, watch, hub, likes etc).
I would rather wait a few weeks to get a finished product, than have unpolished system that has memory leaks or whatever...
You forget that average user doesn't want to mess with rooting and flashing and they even don't know about that alternative (and/or care) so they cannot and will not flash new "xda" software when official rom "breaks"...
Very true, didn't think about that.
well, you can press thanks button so i can open new thread sooner
hope they release it soon..
I and my wife have an rooted firmware now.
but somethimes the phone reboots...
i don't care, but the wife don't like it hehehe.
kloenie said:
hope they release it soon..
I and my wife have an rooted firmware now.
but somethimes the phone reboots...
i don't care, but the wife don't like it hehehe.
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U can always change your wife. Maybe developers from XDA can make some new RomWIFE. But... how to do wipe then?
No point in this...
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Hey everyone. So I would like to bring you some discussion here about on what the future holds for our HTC Desire S when it respects to the official HTC support.
The main question here is, what do you think that HTC will do with the Desire S? Will they bring ICS to it? Will they try to be soft and bring just Sense 3.5? Or is our Desire S done and no more updates will come? It would be quite interesting to see what everyone thinks that may happen in the next few months
i doubt very much we will see anymore major official updates ,just maye a few revisions.htc support there phones pretty badly tbh,and as much as i love my desire s and this community i doubt very much i would purchase another one of the htc phones as it will carry on the same legacy i expect .
I think HTC will do nothing. They can't support all the phones they released which is why they've decided to take it slow
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I hope that HTC is still going to release an ICS update for Desire S, but that's probably false hope. HTC has released too many phones (about 5 different versions of the Sensation?) to provide support for every phone. They will just concentrate on the higher-end models, which unfortunately the Desire S isn't. Luckily there is a great community working hard to provide us with future updates
The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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what he said..... hit the nail on the head with that one
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
The only reason i recommended the xperia ray was because he HAS to have a Vodafone upgrade. Vodafone's stock ROM on the desire s has that ludicrous 'pocket mode' forced on, and you can't turn it off. 8 hours battery life max. My dad ended up sending his back for that reason. He wouldn't let me root it!
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
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No mate, I wasn't ranting at you
I was criticizing HTC for their poor decision. If the XL is getting ICS, we should get it. We have the same specs.
Heck, even the 2010 phone, Desire HD has near identical specs as the XL. Even that, should get ICS..
Silly move by HTC.
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Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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olyloh6696 said:
Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
Dont know about you guys but HTC has always been keep-the-customer-in-dark with Desire S. IMHO I dont know why they do it... I mean it came with sense 2.1 and 2.3 when I bought. After a while some patches and fotas were there but when we got sense 3.0 it was some guys phone which got updated made the news not a disclosure or say news by HTC that its been updated and which makes my geeky mind cheer in the doubt of my mind that we may recieve ICS officially
Now about the thing that here are devs that are doing a hard job to get ICS on ours and imo they have been succesful as in there-was-no-way-but-they-did-it successful. But think if theres an official update what might happen then? I am no dev or **** but as I understand that would made works on other roms ports a heck lot easier...
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
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Good explanation, but keep in mind, the Desire Z did not receive the official Sense 3.0 update.
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Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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This is pretty sad, if HTC won't upgrade our Desire S to ICS. I mean, Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup--and those have the same chipsets as our Desire S! SE's flagship for last year, the Xperia Arc, was launched around the same time frame as our Desire S, with virtually the same Qualcomm chipset. No way HTC can use that excuse, and they know it.
18 months is not yet up for this phone, so if Google is right, we should expect support/updates till around September or so of 2012. As much as I dislike Sense, HTC ought to be ashamed of itself if they won't give us ICS. I can imagine they're in a bind, because they are compelled to give us ICS, but don't want us playing around with the ICS'ed Sense 4.0 and would rather have us get newer, more expensive 4 inch slabs
Come on, HTC. Gain some goodwill among us. Roll out ICS and the latest Sense. You know it makes Sense
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Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup
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That's the way to go, but just as always magic will not happen and HTC Desire S probably will not get ICS update because of that politic, meanwhile Sony Ericsson goes more democratical way and releases updates for customers, not only "top list'' customers as HTC do. I respect HTC, but the point how they sorts updates by devices is to drastic, just too painful for user like us, who knows what their device is able to do, but they simply do not feed it. To be honest, if HTC Desire S will get official ICS update, then it will mean that HTC is changing their political statement and magic is happening.
You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
rayulove69 said:
You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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dude, our posts are from days before the leak came out
But thanks for the effort I guess there will hopefully be a strong future for us!
wnp_79 said:
The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
Akishima said:
He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
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Well good news anyway:
HTC announced ICS officially for us!
YIPPEE!!!
It gladdens me to reveal a 'sort-of' official release date for Ice Cream Sandwich on the Sensation & Sensation XE! The following statement was released by HTC on their Facebook* UK page.
HTC has been working hard to get its Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades ready, and we’re excited to announce that our first round of ICS upgrades will roll out by the end of March for the HTC Sensation and HTC Sensation XE, followed soon thereafter by the HTC Sensation XL.
Obviously the release date isn't going to be the most popular around people, as we were expecting the update to come much quicker. However this may point to HTC releasing Sense 4.0 to the Sensation straight away. Although it would be a strange market move, its after the MWC the just before HTC would probably release it's new phones. This article here talks about HTC's announcement.
The statement on HTC's page continues on to say the following.
In addition, we can confirm Ice Cream Sandwich upgrades will be coming later this year to the HTC EVO 3D, HTC Incredible S, HTC Desire S and HTC Desire HD. Stay tuned for more updates on Ice Cream Sandwich releases in the coming weeks
*It has also been confirmed by HTC US (on Facebook) that the following devices will be getting ICS at some point later this year: The Rezound, Vivid, Amaze 4G and EVO Design 4G. All these phones are in the USA!
Thanks for sharing !
Obviously it is a great news for the owners of "older HTC devices" , like DHD... etc
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Thanks for sharing !
Obviously it is a great news for the owners of "older HTC devices" , like DHD... etc
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That's great news for everyone! I hope the keep doing that when our sensation gets "old"
leftheodo said:
That's great news for everyone! I hope the keep doing that when our sensation gets "old"
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By HTC's standards, our Sensation is ancient! DHD is like a myan, never mind ancient...
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Obviously the release date isn't going to be the most popular around people, as we were expecting the update to come much quicker. However this may point to HTC releasing Sense 4.0 to the Sensation straight away. Although it would be a strange market move, its after the MWC the just before HTC would probably release it's new phones. This article here talks about HTC's announcement.[/INDENT]
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Today HTC said on Facebook that the ICS update will include "the latest version of Sense". From what I know they are planning to introduce their new flagman phone very soon and it will be using Sense 4. Therefor I really hope our ICS will include Sense 4 as well. I was also expecting the OTA this month but maybe one month delay will proof worth waiting.
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By HTC's standards, our Sensation is ancient! DHD is like a myan, never mind ancient...
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Yeah , it is a 2010 model .. DHD is their "Best seller of all time"
as they stated on their own website ! Wish our Sensation will have such great support form HTC in the future.
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been on ics for about 2 months now but an offical update is always great, hopefully it will include the sense 4.0
I had the DHD, it was amazing!
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Sorry guys, but next time DON'T THINK. Just ask in source...
https://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150763126878084
NO SENSE 4
Well the last leak had Sense 3.6, so I don't think the guy really knows.
Well he's obviously not going to confirm something that hasn't been announced. Sense 3.6 and 4.0 have bot actually been officially announced where as Sense 3.5 has. Sense 3.5 is currently the latest, but of course they wouldn't revert to 3.5 because it would be loads of development gone to waste!
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