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Why are KDKobes' and Virus' threads under investigation?

Sorry if this is already answered somewhere or something, but I'm just confused. I see new posts are being put in the threads, but when I click it I'm redirected to a different page saying the thread is under investigation.
Thanks to anyone who gives me some info!

Not sure but another reason my time spent here is getting more sporadic. This TB forum is getting boring lol.

I've mostly moved on at this point... I just check xda for random updates but mostly just lurking now. Its a shame really... Used to be a lot better around here.
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There are good reasons.

I believe it's because they aren't in compliance with the GPL license under which the Linux kernel is distributed, which requires making source code available when you distribute a binary. Seems to be pretty common for Android developers to ignore their obligations. There's a lot of ego involved, too. Even though 99.99% of the kernel is code that others provided to them via an open source license, they want to keep the modifications they've done away from others.

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I believe it's because they aren't in compliance with the GPL license under which the Linux kernel is distributed, which requires making source code available when you distribute a binary. Seems to be pretty common for Android developers to ignore their obligations. There's a lot of ego involved, too. Even though 99.99% of the kernel is code that others provided to them via an open source license, they want to keep the modifications they've done away from others.
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^ this is why to a tee and it's why my thread was closed. i told you guys **** was about to go down... it's because the ziggy kernel is not gpl complient and i posted it and virus uses it in his roms.
edit: his thread is open, i dunno what you guys are talking about.

What about all the original TB roms that were created before the kernel source wasnt released to the public?
What about all the other phones running roms without the manufacturer source code?

Why don't you guys ask the dev at hand? PM him without posting another thread about it.
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A possible Solution to Android Fragmentation !!

Android Fragmentation does put a bit of a hiccup in the entire user experience. A lot of surveys have showed that most of the android devices are still running Froyo or have just received the gingerbread update despite of the fact that that gingerbread has been out for more than a year now. The main reason behind this is that the OEM brands try to customize android accordingly and put an UI overlay over it. This consumes quite a lot of time taking into consideration that the entire source code is modified accordingly in order to rule out the issues associated with the Overlaying UI. But by the time the OEMs are done delivering official updates to the respective phone that supports it, Google introduces a new version of android. Hence, on the official android update, 95%(Just an assumption) of the Android phones lack the enhanced experience provided by Google. Also apps have to made which are compatible with the old version of android and the new one. This is a very tedious and a big turn down for android. What I suggest is why don’t the OEM make the entire Android Update a 2 stage process.
By 2 stage process i mean that the entire update is divided and delivered in two different period of time.
1st Stage being the Official Android Update just as Google has provided to the OEMs. This will be like giving the users the pure Google experience. Also it will consume a very less amount of time since the XDA devs are able to port the entire Version in just 2 to 3 weeks after the release. So why cant the OEMs do the same ? I believe the devs working at the OEMs can do it much faster and the issues related to the release will be relatively less. Atleast then most of the Android Phones will be running the latest Android update and Fragmentation will be reduced tremendously.
2nd Stage of the update is the Custom UI overlay the OEM try to provide for their specific devices. After delivering the first stage , the OEMs can concentrate on making their UI and fixing as many bugs as possible. So even if this does take time, Android users still are on the latest Android version reducing fragmentation to a lot of extent. Also most of the android updates are major , so the consumers wont be missing a great part of the fun for a very long time like it normally happens. This will also provide the users with choices. Some users prefer the Stock android UI over the Sense or the Touchwiz or the Blur. Hence the users can accept or deny the second stage of update depending on their preference.
This will help all Android users and developers to a great Deal as fragmentation will almost be banished from Android. I am writing this from my past experience and I may be wrong . Just my two cents to help reduce fragmentation. If most of us accept this idea we could sign a petition and deliver it to the OEMs which will help them and us in a number of ways. What do you guys think about this ?? Please feel free to post your reviews about this .

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Sorry about that MOD. Just got a bit confused because this section specified device specific release and technical stuff. Thank you so much mod

What if every phone had vanilla android?

I just dont get why the manufacturers bother with spending so much money on developing a user interface and then keeping it relevant with the latest android versions.
People say that they do that to differentiate their phones. When I see samsung, HTC, SE, motorola and LG phones I can clearly distinguish them on hardware.
Does google not allow them to release a stock phone or what? Basically it will be like we have several different versions of a nexus phone. Look at LG what good does it give them to have their user interface? Nobody says anything good about their software, they are so late with updates. LG makes respectable hardware for the price but because of the software thing I will never consider their phone.
I honestly think it will actually give the manufacturers a competitive advantage especially struggling ones and the money they will save on software development they can perhaps use it to lower the prices or something.

The vanilla interface is a bit rough in my opinion, i'm glad my HTC has sense

i find samsung contacts and dialer much better than vanilla one, i really miss them in cm7

Alright, I will go over this issue again. The members of this community who like to hack and tweak their phone are the gross minority when it comes to the consumers. The average consumer does not understand the hardware or anything about the phone. They see a phone with a pretty clock that can open an app quickly. If the manufacturers didn't offer their personal touches, there would be nothing to differentiate themselves from their competition. Consider us lucky though, we have a great community offering us any flavor of Android we choose for our phones.

That's the reason why some people chose the pure google experience.You know the Nexus One, Nexus S, and now the Galaxy Nexus. It would be nice that other manufacturers would make phones without any costom UI and other things, and the updates would be rolling out from google over the air. Welcome to reality...?

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This was a thread for general discussion, there are many threads at the forum with a "?" in the end. This is the second time it's happened I really dont get it. I wasnt merely "asking" something for me but just something for general discussion.

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This was a thread for general discussion, there are many threads at the forum with a "?" in the end. This is the second time it's happened I really dont get it. I wasnt merely "asking" something for me but just something for general discussion.
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Yea, it is stupid. Some people don't understand the English language. The Q&A section is not meant for questions without a definitive answer...those questions are meant for discussion. Some of the mods are real geniuses though.

I think he just sees a question mark and moves it. Its happened to me before and it is kinda irritating.

Rather than having manufacturer skins forced down peoples throats, i'd like to see a unified Android Theme Changer integrated into the OS. Manufacturers could then release devices with their own selection of Themes, including an option for 'Vanilla'. That way everybody has a choice.
Any additional software should be released through the Market for those that want it. One Nexus release a year is not enough for those of us who like our Androids unadulterated.

OS Version Display Tool?

I'm working on a project where I need to interview many people who are not smartphone savvy and most likely will not know what phone OS they are using or even if they have a "smartphone" (Android, iOS, WP7). We need to determine if they really do have a smartphone and if so what version OS they are currently using. Does anyone know of something like a web-based site that would give this information to the user? I found systemdetails.com, but it didn't seem to work for iOS devices. I'm looking ideally for a simple to use and widely available tool (something the user doesn't have to download) to determine this information. Getting version numbers on iOS and WP7 devices isn't too bad as we could give the users directions, but with the Android devices it might be more difficult with the skinning. Thanks for your help!
-Rob

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Well let's try this again. My apologies for posting this in the incorrect forum. Anyone have any ideas on this? Figured I'd give it one last shot. Thank you for the help.

What about browser useragent strings?
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Original Development, What is it?

Hey Moto X Users!
Now, how is the Original Android Development section different from our Android Development section?
Afaik, the Original Development section was born in the Samsung Galaxy SII forums, after a growing need was realized, that is to recognize "true" development.
"True" development often got lost among the kang and themed winzip's which had unfortunately started clogging a major part of the S2 Development section.
The Original Development section is not to be percieved as a "competition", or a way to discount other's hardwork, or a way to boost someone's virtual ego.
It's purpose is to devote an area to development which is a "significant first" for a device, a place to appreciate the first which made other's work possible, and to hopefully encourage more such firsts for the device.​
What belongs to the Original Android Devleopment section?
Official releases of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them.
Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
A significant “first” in development for a device. Significant is subjective, but it is likely something which took considerable time/effort, and is generally accepted by developers to be significant and non-trivial.
Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available. Some element of original work is expected.
Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to users of the target device. The port should be beneficial (a port from two virtually identical devices isn’t original development, it’s winzipping, and nobody really benefits from this, as it’s not development).
What does NOT belong to the Original Android Development section?
Your own “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original, source-built (or otherwise) ROM, particularly where an official or maintainer-endorsed thread exists already.
Minor derivatives of other ROMs with little or no changes, or ROMs consisting of “placebo” features as a main constituent or claim.
Renames or rebadges of others’ work – these don’t belong on XDA at all! Refer to rule 12 for more information.
Reposts of existing ROMs with small changes (i.e. kitchen work, such as adding a couple of apps). If you could realistically distribute your changes as an “addon pack” above and beyond a ROM, you should do so. In addition, your “ROM” would not be original development as it would be substantially identical to the original ROM.
A thread created with unrealistic goals that are clearly unachievable by those starting the thread. This is not intended to discourage high aspirations, rather to prevent threads porting Windows Phone 8 to the HTC Wallaby. This is pretty much common sense.
A ROM where a main or significant claim/feature is graphical changes to the user interface (ie. Themed ROM)
That's it for now. More useful info shall be added later on, when the need arises

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I'm not 100% sure this was needed
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This thread is to inform all the new developers, new to XDA who have developed something before posting to the Original Section. . It may be useless for you but might provide valuable for someone else.

This information is well placed IMO, as many people don't know what really belongs in original dev section, and what doesn't.
Most other forums are having this as well inside the orig dev section.
To avoid further discussions: thread closed.