These guys in my area selling phones from Sprint and claiming they can put them on Verizon and vice versa. They are also selling phones like the Droid 2 and Pro, claiming to put them on T-Mobile. I know those are world phones with GSM capabilities but I did not think for the U.S. I always thought this was not possible. Can someone tell me if I am wrong?
i'd be very careful about dealing with them.
you can take a sprint phone and put it on verizon. you'll have to edit the esn on the phone which is illegal, but it can be done.
as far as putting a verizon phone on t-mobile, thats impossible afaik. unless these devices have north american gsm frequencies, it won't work. however if they do support NA frequencies, it would be possible.
Is this what they do when they talk about spoofing esns or something like that. I think I have an idea of what your talking about. I do not deal with them because I know they are less than reputable. But is that spoofing or whatever?
rllong1 said:
These guys in my area selling phones from Sprint and claiming they can put them on Verizon and vice versa. They are also selling phones like the Droid 2 and Pro, claiming to put them on T-Mobile. I know those are world phones with GSM capabilities but I did not think for the U.S. I always thought this was not possible. Can someone tell me if I am wrong?
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The Droid 2 Global and Droid Pro DO have GSM capabilities, however as far as I know and from video reviews, if you put the phone in GSM ("Global" mode)with an domestic (American) SIM card, it'll shut of the GSM radio. Stupid, I know. But they know people will just take the phone to T-Mobile and AT&T. This is even after they give you the unlock code. It's part of the software itself.
Now in regards to Sprint, they are SUPPOSED to put other carriers' phones on their networks, however you will not find any employee who will do it for you. Unless you edit the ESN number, which, as someone stated, is illegal, they won't activate it. Other carriers, such as MetroPCS will flash any CDMA phone to their network (although data might not work, usually). Local Boost Mobile stores MIGHT be nice enough to activate a Sprint phone for you. Virgin Mobile, although they run on Sprint, won't.
Yes they would be spoofing the esn from another device so the carrier will see it as a compatible for their system.
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I thought it was funny business but like I said, I just wanted to make sure. Thanks guys
Right now I have an HTC Evo running on the Sprint network. I purchased an iPhone 4s (Verizon) from a friend that has a good ESN. I was hoping i would be able to flash the phone and merrily be on my way to using the phone on the Sprint network. After some researching it doesn't look like that is going to happen since the stingy bastards who own mobile phone companies will not accept ESN's from other carriers. Although, i did read on some old forums that companies were required to let the phone operate on their system if the ESN was good. Is this true? Is that a law? Do they have to let my phone operate on their system or is there any way i could get Sprint to make it work?
Answers are greatly appreciated as i would love to use my new phone on the Sprint network. :laugh:
Title is the question.. I can not find anything about this on the internet.
I would have to say "no" on that one since it's tied to Verizon's CDMA network and they use a different set of frequencies than Cricket does which is tied to Sprint's network. The Ultra/MAXX/Mini are already factory unlocked for GSM purposes, however, so that does offer a lot more choice in terms of carriers overall, but still no chance of use with Cricket.
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I would have to say "no" on that one since it's tied to Verizon's CDMA network and they use a different set of frequencies than Cricket does which is tied to Sprint's network. The Ultra/MAXX/Mini are already factory unlocked for GSM purposes, however, so that does offer a lot more choice in terms of carriers overall, but still no chance of use with Cricket.
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So then i can use this phone for the No Annual Service Contracts, for sprint? It is a verizon phone but it could be unlocked for sprint.
nice well thanks buddy
Sprint uses frequencies that aren't compatible with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini so now, you won't be able to use any of those devices with Sprint - that's what I just said. If you can't use it with Sprint, you can't use it with Cricket, Boost, etc. They're not compatible devices, and flashing wouldn't change that.
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Sprint uses frequencies that aren't compatible with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini so now, you won't be able to use any of those devices with Sprint - that's what I just said. If you can't use it with Sprint, you can't use it with Cricket, Boost, etc. They're not compatible devices, and flashing wouldn't change that.
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Thanks for your reply
So Will the Ultra work on T-Mobile then? or does it only work on Verizon. The IMEI is clean, and I just want to know what i have to do to use on any other network but Verizon.. I hate Verizon..
It's as simple as what I just explained: there are two primary cellular technologies, CDMA and GSM. CDMA traditionally has never required SIM cards in their devices and is used by companies like Sprint, Verizon, Boost, Cricket (in the US) and many other cellular carriers worldwide. GSM has always required SIM cards and that's used by AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Simple Mobile, and many other carriers in the US as well as around the world.
The Droid Ultra, the Droid MAXX, and the Droid Mini are all Verizon contracted devices but because Verizon must now provide unlocked GSM capability in the phones they sell (at least for the Droid series, that much I know for sure, but other devices like Galaxy S-series, iPhones, I cannot be 100% certain about) that means when you get a Verizon branded device you should be able to - and you can with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini - put a GSM-based SIM card in the phone and use it with any GSM-based cellular carrier anywhere in the world without having to pay anyone to "unlock" the phone for such use.
tl;dr version: Yes, you can use the Ultra with T-Mobile, you just need a T-Mobile SIM card with active service on it and you're good to go. I used my recent Droid MAXX and the Droid Mini I had with T-Mobile without any issues.
But I got sick of waiting around for a miracle that probably won't happen so I sold both of them, got a Samsung Galaxy Express last night, 20 minutes after I got home I had unlocked it for T-Mobile (using the well known unlock trick), rooted it, installed CM11 Official on it and it's been working fantastic today and pulling down close to 35Mbps with T-Mobile's LTE here in Las Vegas.
I'm a happy camper at the moment...
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It's as simple as what I just explained: there are two primary cellular technologies, CDMA and GSM. CDMA traditionally has never required SIM cards in their devices and is used by companies like Sprint, Verizon, Boost, Cricket (in the US) and many other cellular carriers worldwide. GSM has always required SIM cards and that's used by AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, Simple Mobile, and many other carriers in the US as well as around the world.
The Droid Ultra, the Droid MAXX, and the Droid Mini are all Verizon contracted devices but because Verizon must now provide unlocked GSM capability in the phones they sell (at least for the Droid series, that much I know for sure, but other devices like Galaxy S-series, iPhones, I cannot be 100% certain about) that means when you get a Verizon branded device you should be able to - and you can with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini - put a GSM-based SIM card in the phone and use it with any GSM-based cellular carrier anywhere in the world without having to pay anyone to "unlock" the phone for such use.
tl;dr version: Yes, you can use the Ultra with T-Mobile, you just need a T-Mobile SIM card with active service on it and you're good to go. I used my recent Droid MAXX and the Droid Mini I had with T-Mobile without any issues.
But I got sick of waiting around for a miracle that probably won't happen so I sold both of them, got a Samsung Galaxy Express last night, 20 minutes after I got home I had unlocked it for T-Mobile (using the well known unlock trick), rooted it, installed CM11 Official on it and it's been working fantastic today and pulling down close to 35Mbps with T-Mobile's LTE here in Las Vegas.
I'm a happy camper at the moment...
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My man!
thank you bro. I got my service in tmobile like 30 minutes ago. The phone works and i am a happy camper
but the only issue is texting.. it keeps failing every text
thanks a bunch
nickshavo11 said:
My man!
thank you bro. I got my service in tmobile like 30 minutes ago. The phone works and i am a happy camper
but the only issue is texting.. it keeps failing every text
thanks a bunch
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I don't use T-Mobile myself, and never have, but this thread may be helpful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591954
Sooooo. I got an off topic question for my fellow techies of XDA, would it be possible to get an AT&T IPhone onto cdma net 10 if unlocked? I hate iphones and my girlfriend loves hers but when I moved to a new area I couldn't find a single gsm service in the area that got a signal (I was pretty shocked too) I got the IPhone from a friend and I know US Cellular/Verizon/Sprint don't typically accept unlocked phones, I know this forum is for android phones but this is just a general phone service question as I tried to get my unlocked sprint G2 on the cdma and found out it was blacklisted (what do you expect? I was craigslist) SO. What do you guys think? Any ideas on getting a gsm phone that's CDMA capable on CDMA through net 10 or other simlar service? I'd love to be able to get a good unlocked phone on cdma if it were possible, I have the G3 from U.S. Cellular right now but the phones so new there isn't even an available rom because US got it so far after the other carriers. I believe I posted this thread in the right place and if I didn't please let me know and I will remove it, I like XDa far too much to want to get blacklisted haha
According to Cat Phones and Bullitt they only produce this phone currently as an unlocked GSM version. However, one gentleman on their Facebook page claimed that he has this phone working for him on Sprint. I understand the general differences between GSM and CDMA, so I can't imagine this being possible unless there is a characteristic of this phone that I'm missing such as the LTE bands.
I'm highly interested in this phone, but I've also been with Sprint since I was given my first cell phone over fifteen years ago. If the Cat S60 doesn't work with Sprint then I'll have to make the tough decision of whether or not to switch to AT&T in order to finally get a new phone which interests me.
I'd appreciate any answers as to whether there is any possibility that this phone does in fact work with Sprint somehow. Thanks.