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Now don’t laugh... It’s a valid question. I am all about speed. I have a 6 core CPU in my PC that is totally useless but makes me feel good. I get that.
But I honestly don’t see what I need faster network speeds on my phone for... Everything I do is fast. I am never like... "Come on load!!" on my phone... So why would I sacrifice battery life for internet speed I don’t use or need?
I understand if you are using your phone as a wireless hotspot you would want that speed. But what else? Can you guys even suggest things I could try on my phone that would make me want faster speeds? We don’t have Netflix yet but maybe that is one. But movies can buffer and from what I understand they will play smooth on 3G with no problems.
So what is it? You just want the speed because it’s there? Again if that’s it I get that!
But what are actually apps or usages that you can experience a difference. Because right now nothing I do seems to have a speed issue on 3G.
Let me follow that long winded post up with something straight to the point…
Seems like 99.9% of what I do on my phone is power critical (meaning I want to be able to do all of it as long as I can without charging) and not internet speed critical at all. So why would I ever turn 4G on?
Wow those facebook pics loaded in .2 seconds instead of .8 seconds. Good thing even though I’m only going to be able to browse facebook for 2.5 hours instead of 8 to get that difference!
I am also interested to see in what people can make up.
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Well I live in the middle of no where and can't get good internet so I will be using 4G LTE to tether as soon as the towers are put up which should be soon since it's announced.
That's cool and is a valid reason. But will still be a total pain in the ass. You will soon just want a 4G usb aircard or seperate MIFI device... Trying to use your phone as your sole internet connection sucks.
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I'd like to try to use 4G as much as I can because I am using the TB as a videophone so I can talk with my Deaf clients and also be able to access sign language interpreters while placing phone calls to hard of hearing clients and hearing vendors. The minimum requirement I found for smooth video and audio seems to be two signal bars in 3G. 4G or at least two WiFi "waves" is preferred.
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Tethering with 4g is awesome when you cant get on wifi.
Video playback on 4g is fast and you can also watch higher quality videos.
Downloading apps and whatnot is lightning fast.
I have had pda type phones for the last 8 years, the thunder bolt speed is awesome.
That being said..
Dont be a moron and leave the 4g on if you dont care about 4g speeds. Save your fricking battery and turn 4g off.
Latency seems better overall on LTE versus the normal 3G CDMA, which means something if you care about how fast you get your data from the internet.
On an unrelated note, I would love to have a 6 core cpu, so I could use the extra cores for virtual machines or compiling and the rest for normal stuff, so there are indeed uses for things that seems "useless."
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I just had a lol moment..
I thought i might try and run vm server and load up 2008 server and a vm client machine.
FYI dont do what i did.. Load it up on a laptop with only 4gb of ram and a slow 5400rpm hard drive.
Just in case everyone forgot. Come may 15th wireless tether will be a payer and tiered feature. When your using 4g on your computer you will use that up real quick. Unless you use wireless tether for root users but that is becoming somewhat of a risk nowadays since Verizon isn't raking in enough money yet.
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Hulu. Watching all youtube vids in HD. Open up future video streaming apps. Online multiplayer games. It's not just a speed increase but you will also get voice and data the same time. I don't have a desktop computer at home so I do all my computer needs on my cellular. 85% of the things I do on my phone is data related. Also if you think about it whenever verizon gets all the bugs out on there 4G network it could save on battery life. Now hear me out I think the lesser time your downloading or uploading the less strain it will be on your battery. As opposed to same processing but slower speeds meaning more time consuming battery (longer download and upload time) because that's what is really killing the battery is battery consumption via data. Idk just thinking.
Same as above
I watch YouTube vids in high quality mode all the time. Virtually impossible without 4g.
Also Google maps loads way quick... Which is the one thing I hate waiting on.
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Sling Player Mobile...
SlingBox over 4G is awesome...
So clear, so good...
(i took the picture while it was transitioning to another scene...)
Not to be a jerk or anything but I watch YouTube videos in HD on 3g. I get 2.5kb down and can watch entire videos without a hitch.
Although an entire hulu video may be a different story. I am able to watch entire hockey games in high quality with the nhl app.
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I can do hq youtube on 3g with no problems. I love the 4g when I am using the slingbox though. I could never put it in hq over 3g so that is nice. I also download all my cds right from my phone so its nice to have them in 2 min instead of 20.
Also streaming music from the amazon cloud is much nicer on 4g
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but you will also get voice and data the same time.
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I get voice and data at the same time in a 3G or 4G area with the TBolt...
Does not matter...
kendive said:
I get voice and data at the same time in a 3G or 4G area with the TBolt...
Does not matter...
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Same. With how the phone is built you can talk and surf in 3g or 4g on this phone. Its one of the TB's major plusses.
It's probably just me, but I find it funny that you guys all can do things immediately on 3g, I find major waiting times. Even in the best signal places where I get 1-2mbps down I still have to wait 5-20 seconds for my droid 2 global to load a page, it is a pain.
For example, right now I am in my dorm in Burlington, VT, my phone has a signal between -68 and 70dbm at 0 asu, and the current speedtest.net app shows .65-.7mbps down and .63-.65 up. Not great speeds, but within what 3g is supposed to be, and if I want to watch a high quality youtube video, I go to the youtube app, count that it takes 14 seconds to load, I am doing this right now. Click the new ray william johnson video, and it takes 24 seconds to start, then 1:02 into the video it freezes for 43 more seconds. At this point I deem 3g unuseable for youtube videos. When I am getting super awesome over 1mbps speeds then I usually only wait 5-10 seconds and it doesn't freeze, usually, but still 3g can very often and for a large number of people be slow. Similarly web pages take a while to load too, I mean sure if I load the mobile version of a webpage it is fairly fast, 4-5 second waits usually, but for those sites without mobile pages or where mobile pages are too limiting, it can take forever to load, I constantly have to look away from my phone for 20 or more seconds then look back to still see it loading. I imagine 4g would run at a minimum of 3mbps even if it was way way over used and signal was bad, so for me that is why 4g makes sense.
Also the thunderbolt is the first 4g lte phone for verizon, clearly there are still issues to work out and battery useage can be made significantly better, I don't see the current power use of 4g as an indicator of power use a year or 2 down the line.
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... since Verizon isn't raking in enough money yet.
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I lol'd hard ... also no 3G here yet
HawkStream said:
Now don’t laugh... It’s a valid question. I am all about speed. I have a 6 core CPU in my PC that is totally useless but makes me feel good. I get that.
But I honestly don’t see what I need faster network speeds on my phone for... Everything I do is fast. I am never like... "Come on load!!" on my phone... So why would I sacrifice battery life for internet speed I don’t use or need?
I understand if you are using your phone as a wireless hotspot you would want that speed. But what else? Can you guys even suggest things I could try on my phone that would make me want faster speeds? We don’t have Netflix yet but maybe that is one. But movies can buffer and from what I understand they will play smooth on 3G with no problems.
So what is it? You just want the speed because it’s there? Again if that’s it I get that!
But what are actually apps or usages that you can experience a difference. Because right now nothing I do seems to have a speed issue on 3G.
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I asked this same question once and got ridiculed for it. I think perhaps in the future we'll need more speed on our cell network but right now I get all the speed I need off of wifi at work or home. I would love to see some innovations in faster processors without compromising any battery life. Or I'd love to see them develop better batteries. I like 4G but I hope we see faster phones with better batteries before anyone even mentions 5G.
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Anybody else lose 4g???
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i've got 4g right now in houston.
Dang I guess its my phone ugh
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I've had 4G all day. Open Settings > Wireless & networks > Radio info. Scroll down & make sure CDMA+LTE/EvDo auto is enabled
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It was just restarted the phone and it worked sorry guys should have tried that first..
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I'm bringing this up because I am having 4G issues in my place. The data cuts in and out a lot, and sometimes hangs with the up arrow lit, forcing me to use 3G for the time being. I'm wondering if anyone else is having problems.
I am also thinking if VZ is throttling or not, but 17 days into my billing cycle so far, I have used only 2.5 gigs, hardly a reason to be considered excessive.
what25 said:
I'm bringing this up because I am having 4G issues in my place. The data cuts in and out a lot, and sometimes hangs with the up arrow lit, forcing me to use 3G for the time being. I'm wondering if anyone else is having problems.
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I doubt verizon is throttling. You are proly in a 4G fringe area. If you don't need 4G all the time, you should change the radio to CDMA auto. Your battery will quickly drain looking for 4G signal (or trying to hold on to a weak signal)
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I posted a question like this on the q and a forum. Its not your phone. I am having problems with 4g in okc and im not the only one. People on rootzwiki are having the problem too in Texas. I believe its a verizon issue
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sublimaze said:
I doubt verizon is throttling. You are proly in a 4G fringe area. If you don't need 4G all the time, you should change the radio to CDMA auto. Your battery will quickly drain looking for 4G signal (or trying to hold on to a weak signal)
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I'm well inside the 4G area, and it worked well where I live until about a week ago, and its been flaky ever since.
what25,
You are not alone. Did you find a solution to the problem? If not, I hope you didn't do anything drastic.
I also have the problem (in Houston, on thunderbolt) and have found others on xda dev and rootzwiki that are having similar issues (also in Houston area). It's not just you. It also seems to be only thunderbolt users.
I'll post the links to others having the problem. Also, have you noticed it in general or has it only been with certain apps. For a while it was a problem with my 4g connecting. Now the 4g is connected but hardly loads. Plenty of apps seem fine, maybe slower. But it is mainly Google services that don't work. My Google voice doesn't work at all. I don't get notifications for new messages and the messages don't load in the main screen. Google plus doesn't load at all. Youtube is very slow, and the stock browser is also barely usable. I've had the problems for about the past 4 days (I think I really started noticing on Friday). These problems only occur on 4g by the way, not 3g.
Please respond if your situation sounds like it's the same problem.
I'm in houston having same problem as above..
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Same problem here! Houston area
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Same here (Webster). I started the thread at Rootzwiki, here are the details of my problem:
"I'm having the strangest problem, my browser is not cooperating with 4G. Especially with Google, the progress bar just sits there nearly indefinitely. It can load full sites, such as topgear.com, but it hangs at the end before the bar is full.
I can toggle down to 3G and it works fine. I'm currently running the OTA MR2 radio. This started, however, some time after I flash Chingy's latest leak. I've flash radios back and forth a couple of times, cleared cache and dalvik, clear Internet application data, I've even done a complete wipe (wiped everything twice) and re-flashed without restoring anything what so ever. Nothing works other than toggling down to 3G.
That being said, it's not a connection issue. I can tether and it runs great, speed tests ran from the phone have good results and most application that use data are fine. I'm baffled.
Any suggestion? Any one ran into something like this?
Thanks."
Taken from the thread I started in Q&A.
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what25,
You are not alone. Did you find a solution to the problem? If not, I hope you didn't do anything drastic.
I also have the problem (in Houston, on thunderbolt) and have found others on xda dev and rootzwiki that are having similar issues (also in Houston area). It's not just you. It also seems to be only thunderbolt users.
I'll post the links to others having the problem. Also, have you noticed it in general or has it only been with certain apps. For a while it was a problem with my 4g connecting. Now the 4g is connected but hardly loads. Plenty of apps seem fine, maybe slower. But it is mainly Google services that don't work. My Google voice doesn't work at all. I don't get notifications for new messages and the messages don't load in the main screen. Google plus doesn't load at all. Youtube is very slow, and the stock browser is also barely usable. I've had the problems for about the past 4 days (I think I really started noticing on Friday). These problems only occur on 4g by the way, not 3g.
Please respond if your situation sounds like it's the same problem.
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Yea I would describe the situation as very similar.
The browser would be very slow, or sometimes hang, when trying to load a webpage. When on 3G, everything works fine. My GMails have been getting delayed notifications on 4G as well. Havnt checked youtube, but I assume a similar situation would arise.
I switched back to mr1 radio and lte to no avail. What the hell, it's been 4 days. Has anyone contacted Verizon about this issue yet?
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Apparently the issue has to do with the DNS settings. Not sure why Verizon changed their DNS on us. Here's a thread on rootzwiki that contains the solution to fixing.
rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1763-Browser-not-liking-LTE&p=39618#post39618
i called and no one has reported it. i put in my report and after so, i decided hey i wanna try the nightly synergy. 7/25 on 2.75 radio, now everything works. but just to make sure i wiped and flashed cm7 and omgb back for a fresh start, 4g locked on but still had the same problems. im in the Houston area as well, i work downtown and live off 8 and the not so newly opened 90, i get great coverage never loose 4g.
Very odd. If it was due to a particular radio, it should have resolved when you flashed another. If the fix posted by strwberrybened does not work, grab SetDNS from the market & change to GoogleDNS or OpenDNS
Yes, no 4G in Deer Park at around 3:15 pm this afternoon. I was at my doctor's office and noticed that I only had 3G. I was unable to access the Internet via my T-Bolt and rebooted, it restored the Internet but not 4G. I am charging my phone now and will check again soon. I am using the leaked radio posted just a few days ago on the RootzWiki site.
I'm in Deer Park too, also 4g is back to normal. About time, just do a normal reboot and 4g should be back to normal. No more 4g lag!
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I have the Skyrocket for a day and a half and have had "Lost Connection to server. Messages will be sent when online." occurring constantly. It can happen while using 4G or Wifi, signed into a gmail account on another computer or not. My WiFi connections are set to never sleep.
The solution often seems to be to wait five seconds and it reconnects, occasionally I've had to out and back into Google Talk.
I've found lots of reports of similar problems around the web for different phones and no solutions yet.
Any ideas?
Mine was doing that a lot and I use it to talk to my wife overseas. After I rooted it and downloaded bloatware free and just froze useless things i realized it wasn't doing it anymore. It could be a coincidence or idk wth I'm talking about. Only other thing could be ur data connection could be screwed or hogged by other application which is causing it to consistently disconnect. Let me know how it works out.
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I'm still having this issue, and it is quite annoying. It is still around after having rooted the phone and cleared all the private data to sign in with a different gmail account.
If you are also having the problem then it might be good to post about it here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=22570
as always, let us know if you have an idea of what might fix this. If I I figure out flashing a rom I'll let you know the results, but some of the posts in the link suggest that this doesn't always solve the issue.
I installed dolphin about a week ago and it seemed OK a first, now it seems to not respond or go painfully slow when taping a link or going to a new tab. Progress bar starts to move then stops half way and pinwheel spins forever and nothing happens. Tried clearing cashe, no good. Double checked settings, all is well, original browser is disabled, dolphin is set as default browser.
Any input will be appreciated.
Pp.
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sounds like network related.
try reset to default and reboot twice and/or power device off fully for a few minutes.
My network is OK, I have two Epic's, sprint phones and they work great on same network. In fact I was trying to place an order with Amazon on tab and had to stop because of the way the browser was acting. Pick up phone and was able to finish order in less than a minute, same network same Wi-Fi.
Pp.
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I also have a problem with dolphin, my crashes when I click on the address bar. Nothing helps, does anyone have any solution?
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I suppose I would uninstall the app, shutdown the tab, then start it back up and re-install the app and see if made a difference. If not, I'd head over to the Dolphin site and see what they have in regards to help, tech support and forums.
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Will try that, its painful trying to use the browser the way its acting.
Pp.
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Problems that I have:
1. I get the crashing as well sometimes when clicking in the address bar.
2. It's one of the few apps on here that can manage to completely freeze the tablet.
3. Lots of completely random crashes resulting from loading pages.
4. Fails to download most of the various files that are on the free file hosting services available.
But all that said I've used it across so many devices and for so long that it's the only browser that I really feel comfortable using full time. If there was an easy way to migrate my bookmarks and saved form data it might be an option.
i'm using dolphin and im always getting FC radomnly in one session..
i keep it up to date but its still get errors with it..
I second the fact that it is the only app that has been able to completely freeze my tablet. Also the back of my tablet get really hot when using dolphin even though it does not seem to drain the battery any faster.
Using Opera Mobile as my default browser.
Dolphin will FC on the tab 7+ when the URL is too long. I believe this is a bug. Reported it last month but doesn't seem to have any patches released to solve the problem...
Which one are you guys using?? The HD one or the one for Pad?? The HD one works fine for me. No FC at all, go try it out.
Update.
Unistalled dolphin, EM developer about issue with browser but have not gotten responce back. Went back to stock browser and that's acting the same way, slow, won't load pages even after five or more minutes, pin wheel just keeps spinning in add. bar, and forget about Google images that's even worst.
Installed Opera, same crap as dolphin. They are so bad I can't even place an order on line, internet access is usless on this tablet. My Epic touchs browser is super fast, and can place orders no problem.
Pp.
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Numpangx said:
Which one are you guys using?? The HD one or the one for Pad?? The HD one works fine for me. No FC at all, go try it out.
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That version I was running, uninstalled, reinstalled treaked settings even uninstalled original browser, still no good. Opera just as bad.
Pp.
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Not sure what the issue is with my browsers but still can't get browser satisfaction, is it possible that I need an external SD card in place in order for the browsers to work properly? I have no SD card in my tab, been waiting for a sale to pu a 32 MB card so I have been using tab without a card in place.
Can anyone give me some input on this.
Tried dolphin HD, opera Mobil and still same crappy results, slow loading pages, even with images turned off, slow as molasses, and forget about trying to purchase online, not happening.
Pp.
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For what it's worth, dolphin works fine in my LG optumus 2x. Only issue I have is that it crashes whenever I rotate the screen horizontally.
Good luck!!
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What is your WiFi setup? You're not tethering are you?
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What is your WiFi setup? You're not tethering are you?
G.B. Says
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No tethering, have broadband at home, dlink router with great speeds and very little or no traffic on router. Same network I use with my SGSII Epic Touch and laptop.
I'm starting to think it's a bug, because I search in all kinds of forums, blogs, you named it and I don't see any complaints about this issue that I have. Three browsers and they all like crap. Have not D/L much stuff on Tab because i get past this browser crap. This is the wifey's tab and i never hear the end of it, wah wah wah, she needs it for work, graphic artist w/childrens ware company. Including shot of speedtest on my home net. this is avg.
Pp.
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If my other Internet devices download fine on the WiFi and I have done a Factory Reset, plus uninstalling and reinstalling Dolphin as well as the stock browser not working, it's time to get a replacement under warranty or talk to Samsung. What's the point in having a tab if can't surf the internet?
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Going to contact Samsung, maybe they'll have a fix for me.
Thanks for the input.
Pp.
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If you do contact Samsung, I'd be interested in hearing about your customer service experience.
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:Fixed: It was a Hyperdrive ROM issue for some reason. Dunno what it was, but I liked the ROMs. Just like browsing the internet more
Posted this on other forums with zero results. Hopefully I can get some help here because my mobile data browsing has become basically un-usable now. I don't even bother getting on the internet unless there is a Wifi connection close by.
I have a Verizon S3 rooted with Hyperdrive RLS14 ROM on it, and out of the blue last week, my internet became ungodly slow. It'll get to the 50% mark, and just stay there for 30-40 seconds before opening the page. Looking at the up and down 4G arrows, they just seem to stop for a while like it isn't asking for data anymore, then it resumes.
It works perfectly on Wifi, and when I do bandwidth tests on mobile data, the dl speeds are slower than normal(8Mbps now vs. 35Mbps before), but still within the acceptable range. I have tried it in multiple large cities, and it still seems to freeze up on websites. I haven't installed any new programs either. I feel like I am trying to look at porn with dial-up internet. Any ideas?
I do have unlimited data and it hasn't ever been throttled on my account.
Things I have tried so far:
new SIM card
3 different browsers; FF, Boat, and Chrome
Scanned for viruses using AVG
rebooting
Fixing permissions via recovery(twice)
Deleting everything off of the phone in recovery mode and re-installing two different versions of ROMs (RLS14 and RLS15)
handyjay03 said:
Posted this on other forums with zero results. Hopefully I can get some help here because my mobile data browsing has become basically un-usable now. I don't even bother getting on the internet unless there is a Wifi connection close by.
I have a Verizon S3 rooted with Hyperdrive RLS14 ROM on it, and out of the blue last week, my internet became ungodly slow. It'll get to the 50% mark, and just stay there for 30-40 seconds before opening the page. Looking at the up and down 4G arrows, they just seem to stop for a while like it isn't asking for data anymore, then it resumes.
It works perfectly on Wifi, and when I do bandwidth tests on mobile data, the dl speeds are slower than normal(8Mbps now vs. 35Mbps before), but still within the acceptable range. I have tried it in multiple large cities, and it still seems to freeze up on websites. I haven't installed any new programs either. I feel like I am trying to look at porn with dial-up internet. Any ideas?
I do have unlimited data and it hasn't ever been throttled on my account.
Things I have tried so far:
new SIM card
3 different browsers; FF, Boat, and Chrome
Scanned for viruses using AVG
rebooting
Fixing permissions via recovery(twice)
Deleting everything off of the phone in recovery mode and re-installing two different versions of ROMs (RLS14 and RLS15)
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1) Try a different rom.
2) Odin back to stock.
3) Area service outage/upgrading towers?
What radio are you using?
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SlimSnoopOS said:
1) Try a different rom.
2) Odin back to stock.
3) Area service outage/upgrading towers?
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1) I have tried both Hyperdrive ROMs a couple of times to no avail. Thing is, it worked fine up until two weeks ago
2) I'll give that a shot later this afternoon, but still no idea why it randomly did this
3) I have a few friends with the Verizon GS3, and they haven't had any problems with internet browsing. It is also happening in two large cities with full 4G coverage
I'd like to figure out why this happened to prevent it next time. Like I said, I didn't do anything different to the phone. It just randomly stopped working.
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I am not exactly sure what this means, but from my searching, I have attached an image where I believe it displays the radio.
and ummeopp
Bump because this issue is ongoing, and has actually gotten a little worse. I upgraded my baseband to MF1 and it did nothing. In the RLS15 Dev thread, it seems like a few other people are having the exact same issue
Did a bandwidth test in New Orleans earlier and the results were:
ping 122ms
dl 48.41 Mbps
ul 18.07 Mbps
Definitely fast enough, but internet browsing is basically non-existent now. Every other app that uses mobile data works perfectly, just not any internet browsers(Boat, FF, Chrome)