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No hardware acceleration in CM7?

I just learned that CM7 doesn't have hardware acceleration? Is this true? If so, I have a few questions:
1. When will it be available in CM7?
2. If not, what ROM has hardware acceleration in it that I can flash right now? Preferably Gingerbread; I don't want to go back to Froyo unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks!

Where did you hear this? It DOES have hw acceleration.
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akira02rex said:
Where did you hear this? It DOES have hw acceleration.
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First, I tried playing some 720p videos on my phone, using Rockplayer. It says "cannot play this file using the system player". I can only play the files using the hardware decode set to OFF.
So I Googled, and came up with some hits that hardware decoding/acceleration did not make it to CM7. For instance, here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20404-720p-video-playback-on-cm7-stable/

Bump. I'd like to get some feedback/input on this please.

there is not a single android phone that uses hardware acceleration out there right now, except for the international version of the galaxy s. samsung was nice enough to give that phone a special update.
all other phones do not use hardware acceleration for anything like scrolling homescreens, lists, basically nothign. android 2.4 is supposedly adding in the APIs to now make hardware acceleration available.
note HTC may perhaps make certain custom apps hardware accelerated like a video playback app or something. but nothing else is ever hardware accelerated that i know of. so cyan 7 wont get it until android 2.4 is out

RogerPodacter said:
there is not a single android phone that uses hardware acceleration out there right now, except for the international version of the galaxy s. samsung was nice enough to give that phone a special update.
all other phones do not use hardware acceleration for anything like scrolling homescreens, lists, basically nothign. android 2.4 is supposedly adding in the APIs to now make hardware acceleration available.
note HTC may perhaps make certain custom apps hardware accelerated like a video playback app or something. but nothing else is ever hardware accelerated that i know of. so cyan 7 wont get it until android 2.4 is out
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Won't using hardware acceleration save us battery and make our phones even smoother? It makes no sense not to use the capabilities the phone has!

ajm786 said:
Won't using hardware acceleration save us battery and make our phones even smoother? It makes no sense not to use the capabilities the phone has!
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Without a doubt. Its mind blowing that Google hasn't done this from the start. This has been debated by a Google employee (Ry guy I think?) And you can read thru the thread over on the Google support forums. Its a long known discussion in that thread.

720p flash works on thunderbolt

i don't know if i'm late to the game here but i just tested 720p flash content with the new 10.3 and the thunderbolt seems to be hardware accelerating flash and cutting right through 720p content.
I thought this was a new feature of flash 10.3 but i loaded the same content on my Droid X running 2.3.3 and my Captivate running CM7 2.3.4 and both phones could not handle 720p flash.
Confused, i then decided to try out 10.2 again and see if it was supported there and found this
flash version 10.2.156.12 No 720p hardware acceleration
flash version 10.2.157.51 720p Hardware acceleration
Does anyone know why all the sudden only the thunderbolt is cutting through flash video like butter while the captivate (similar chipset) and droid x are not?
a side note i am running Das BAMF latest release, lean kernal extreme, and Teslacoil AOSP Browser.

Full HD video player

Is gTab capable playing 1920x1080 H.264 video?
Which player should I download?
thanks!

I've been pretty happy with mVideoPlayer. It's supposed to play .mkv's but I honestly haven't tried it. But it's played everything I've thrown at it and I like how it can download the posters for your movies and tv episodes.
https://market.android.com/details?id=afzkl.development.mVideoPlayer

A lot of people seem to like MoboPlayer. I see that it's been recently updated and the changelog says something about Tegra2. I might have to try it.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=top-free

I just noticed your signature saying that you use CM7. Supposedly CM7's hardware accelerated video playback isn't quite ready for primetime yet. You might have problems playing that HD video.

xanadu1979 said:
I just noticed your signature saying that you use CM7. Supposedly CM7's hardware accelerated video playback isn't quite ready for primetime yet. You might have problems playing that HD video.
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Yeah, just found out it's not working.
Any of these player can play AVCHD (file extension m2t, mts, m2ts, etc)?
Thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881835
If above is true, then a conversion is required. This is unexpected when I read all the raves about the hardware specs.

xanadu1979 said:
I just noticed your signature saying that you use CM7. Supposedly CM7's hardware accelerated video playback isn't quite ready for primetime yet. You might have problems playing that HD video.
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What roms support HD accell?
I am also running CM7 and find the video playback wonky and was wanting to move to a ROM that supports full HW Acell for now. I assume Vegan 7 doesnt also since its based off cm7? Does HC have any HW acell?

Only the Froyo-based roms have HW acceleration. The Nvidia drivers are only available for Froyo at the moment. Hopefully that changes some time in the future.

Is that only a problem for gTab or other tablets? Thanks!

redhonker said:
Is that only a problem for gTab or other tablets? Thanks!
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Just the tablets with this specific processor, the Tegra2 Harmony. There are a few out there but not many. The drivers may come out eventually, either officially or unofficially, but it might also never happen either.
There are plenty of Android tablets with newer versions of Android and hardware acceleration. They'll set you back at least $400 though.

xanadu1979 said:
Just the tablets with this specific processor, the Tegra2 Harmony. There are a few out there but not many. The drivers may come out eventually, either officially or unofficially, but it might also never happen either.
There are plenty of Android tablets with newer versions of Android and hardware acceleration. They'll set you back at least $400 though.
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Yeah I may go with stock 4349 for now because it seems the only ROM (ok not a ROM but u know what I mean) that supports Netflix, Hardware Accel, and Flash.
It seems vegan 5.1.1 doesnt support netflix.

I just got my gTablet last week and after playing around with the stock software, I installed TnT lite 4.4 as well as Cyanogenmod 7. I've settled for now on CM7 for several reasons, but there are a few quirks I'm hoping will get worked out soon.
The most annoying of these quirks is the video issue. From reading I understand that CM7 has some issues with hardware acceleration and the 2.2 Froyo based ROMS should be better in this aspect - but when I used TnT lite 4.4, which was Froyo based it still had the exact same issues, even using the latest rockplayer. Why is it that the stock ROM could run HD videos so well, but not TnT lite 4.4?

My advice to you guys would be to try Brilliant Corners by roebeet. I can't link you to it but Google is your friend.

[Q] Best hackable sub-$300 Android tablet?

I'm looking to get my first Android tablet. I've always rooted and run custom firmware on my Android phones, so I need a "cheap" Android tablet with a healthy developer community and a lot of support.
My first thought was to go for the $250 Nook Tablet, spec for spec it's better than the Kindle Fire; but didn't an update come out for it recently that made rooting it near impossible or so highly difficult that it hasn't been done yet?
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore?
Then I see a $189 Lenovo A1 Tablet at Best Buy with decent specs. It's running Android 2.3 which I'd normally prefer over Android 3.0/Honeycomb but now that ICS/Android 4.0 is out, I'd definately want to run that on my tablet. So is ICS running very good/stable on any sub $300 Android tablet?
I wonder when the $250 Tegra3 based tablet from Asus (or is it Acer...) comes out. Suggestions on which route to go?

My friend has a Kindle Fire, and it's too slow to be called a tablet. It's an E-Reader that can run Apps.
Even the web browser - scrolling and loading pages - is laggy.

Colton127 said:
My friend has a Kindle Fire, and it's too slow to be called a tablet. It's an E-Reader that can run Apps.
Even the web browser - scrolling and loading pages - is laggy.
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Does it run any custom firmware? Or is it 100% stock? The first thing I plan to do is run a custom ROM on it. Even if it's to remove the bloatware and put in a few tweaks, at least it'd be better than stock. My Galaxy S II right now runs a custom ROM based on the factory ROM, so it has full hardware support and such but it's got a lot of tweaks put into it and bloatware removed, etc. the end result is it's got better battery life and runs faster/smoother than any stock Galaxy S II ROM. I'm hoping to get ICS/Android 4.0 onto a tablet, as that's the way to go, but if the dev community isn't quite there yet, then I'm hoping for a custom/tweaked out ROM as a tide-me-over.

glitchsys said:
Does it run any custom firmware? Or is it 100% stock? The first thing I plan to do is run a custom ROM on it. Even if it's to remove the bloatware and put in a few tweaks, at least it'd be better than stock. My Galaxy S II right now runs a custom ROM based on the factory ROM, so it has full hardware support and such but it's got a lot of tweaks put into it and bloatware removed, etc. the end result is it's got better battery life and runs faster/smoother than any stock Galaxy S II ROM. I'm hoping to get ICS/Android 4.0 onto a tablet, as that's the way to go, but if the dev community isn't quite there yet, then I'm hoping for a custom/tweaked out ROM as a tide-me-over.
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He runs stock rooted with Android Market and a custom launcher.
I tested Opera Mobile on it - which uses full hardware acceleration. It was the smoothest browser I tested on the device, but it was still jittery and lagged while scrolling. The GPU and CPU are obviously not that great.

Colton127 said:
He runs stock rooted with Android Market and a custom launcher.
I tested Opera Mobile on it - which uses full hardware acceleration. It was the smoothest browser I tested on the device, but it was still jittery and lagged while scrolling. The GPU and CPU are obviously not that great.
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Well it is a cheap tablet new, but I thought it was dual core. Kind of disappointing it's sluggish even with HW acceleration. I just checked the Kindle Fire Android Development forum and it looks like they have ICS/Android 4.0 ROM's for it but the 3 main issues are no HW UI Acceleration; 720p and HD video in general; No bluetooth. I don't care too much for Bluetooth and the 720p video thing isn't that important at the moment (I think), but the no HW UI Acceleration could pose a problem, especially if the CPU is as sluggish as you say.

glitchsys said:
Well it is a cheap tablet new, but I thought it was dual core. Kind of disappointing it's sluggish even with HW acceleration. I just checked the Kindle Fire Android Development forum and it looks like they have ICS/Android 4.0 ROM's for it but the 3 main issues are no HW UI Acceleration; 720p and HD video in general; No bluetooth. I don't care too much for Bluetooth and the 720p video thing isn't that important at the moment (I think), but the no HW UI Acceleration could pose a problem, especially if the CPU is as sluggish as you say.
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It is Dual-Core, but it was still laggy when I had tested it. I guess it really bothered me because I was so use to the extremely smooth and fluid iPad 2 & Galaxy S II I own and use day-to-day.
I never tested any custom ROMs, but wish I was able to. It seems to have a lot of popular ROMs and a good developer community.

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Sorry about that. Thanks for moving this thread/keeping things organized, I really appreciate what you guys do.
Right now I'm leaning toward the HP Touchpad or the Kindle Fire. Seems CM7 is the better option for both devices and good enough as a daily driver; but CM9 is further along on the Fire than it is on the Touchpad.

I'm in about the same situation.
I vastly prefer the 7" form factor, although I could probably be persuaded to a 10" for the same price range...
Currently, I'm leaning towards the 16G Nook Tablet, mostly because of the RAM advantage it has vs the Kindle Fire.
The fire seems to have a more active dev community, but, once it is rooted & has a working ROM (ICS preferred), isn't that the main thing to be looking for?
However, I am not set on any specific tablet, and am very open to suggestions...

I'm still rocking the original Nook Color. Runs CM7 like a champ, and CM9 builds are showing great progress.

For a thread revival, I figured I would state my final decision & reasons for it, just in case anyone else is looking for similar information...
I ended up going with a Nook Tablet...
I considered the Kindle Fire, but it has 512MB vs the 1G of RAM that the Nook has.
Checking the dev status for the Nook, there is a CM7 running (fairly well, now that I've given it a shot). Once that is 100% (and, in my opinion, it is very nearly there), there really isn't much of a reason to avoid it.
In the day I've had it, I have to say that it has ended up being much better than I was expecting.

check out this tablet
/watch?v=JUhiQZE4_VE&feature=g-u-u&context=G2a75f87FUAAAAAAAHAA
it's a youtube link to a NCIX review on a new tablet seems nice for the price I can't post full link cause I don't have enough posts maybe someone can help me out and post it for me? thanks

[Q] Video Acceleration in ICS

I'm running CM9 arcee SK3, and like all the other ICS roms, it doesn't have video acceleration. What I'm wondering is, what changed between Gingerbread and ICS that broke this?
Also, given that the Xoom is also Tegra 2 and it has an official ICS rom, is there any way that could be used to bring acceleration to the G2x?

xBIGREDDx said:
I'm running CM9 arcee SK3, and like all the other ICS roms, it doesn't have video acceleration. What I'm wondering is, what changed between Gingerbread and ICS that broke this?
Also, given that the Xoom is also Tegra 2 and it has an official ICS rom, is there any way that could be used to bring acceleration to the G2x?
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so, in gingerbread (and all versions of android before it) all video was done by software. this makes it slow ALOT slower than with hardware acceleration. i wont get too intense with the reasons, but basically it lets the GPU do like 100 calculations at once (hardware) instead of 1 at a time (software).
This means that it is MUCH less CPU and GPU intensive to render video. So the developers of Ice Cream Sandwitch (Google, not rom devs here) decided to make it mandatory so that it could be heavily integrated into the phone. (making things like 1080p video recording MUCH easier with a higher framerate).
They also made all of the UI rendering need Hardware Acceleration. now, im fairly sure the developers got HA for the UI working on this phone by doing the equivalent of writing their own drivers (no small feat). however Hardware Acceleration for video still does not have these drivers. (and we probably wont be able to dev them up, being as Video Encoding/Decoding is much more complex then just rendering a UI).
Now as for the Xoom, while it is Tegra, it's a different version of the chip, and because of this nothing useful can be shared between the 2.
Now, if you want video encoding to be done the old way, there are apps from the market that do it, i know MX video player is one that has a software rendering option and i think there is at least 1 video recorder that does it by software. Either way, until we get hardware support, there are options.
TL;DR: Its not broke, its just new, and we dont have the drivers for this new 'feature'.

Yeah, it's not to fun. I cant wait till we have it going! Just bought an extended battery!
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Thanks, Klathmon, everything makes a lot more sense now.

xBIGREDDx said:
Thanks, Klathmon, everything makes a lot more sense now.
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Here are the apps he was talking about.
Watch video: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
Record video: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidillusion.videocamillusion