I rooted my Sensation 4G for the first time yesterday, and was pretty happy with how smoothly everything went. However, I noticed during normal use today that the battery was being drained faster than usual. It dropped by about %20 within a two hour period - much faster use than during pre-root. I checked things that might have been draining it. But I found nothing new that could've been considered a possible culprit. I'm running the stock rom with Go Launcher EX. Has anyone else experienced this phenomenon after rooting?
Not without flashing a custom rom, and even that's a rarity. Rooting in general does not cause much extra to be run, so battery is virtually unaffected. Try fully discharging the battery and charging it back up to 100% without interruptions during the recharge. That usually clears up battery issues.
A better idea is to completely charge the battery until it is 100% and the led light turns green. Then while the phone is still plugged in go to your recovery menu and wipe the battery stats. This is not a recommended process, its a REQUIRED process every time you switch roms. That should fix the battery issues that you are having.
Thanks, I'll give that a try when this drains out. I also noticed that more RAM is being used now after rooting, which looks to be the result of too many apps opening in the background. It's strange that this didn't happen before either. I'm hoping something didn't go wrong in the rooting process that caused this.
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Thanks, I'll give that a try when this drains out. I also noticed that more RAM is being used now after rooting, which looks to be the result of too many apps opening in the background. It's strange that this didn't happen before either. I'm hoping something didn't go wrong in the rooting process that caused this.
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Are you using many apps that require root permission? And the battery stats is only reccomended, some people say its a myth and don't bother, but do it once for every new rom. And give it a few full discharge and recharge cycles before deciding the battery drain is high.
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I'm only running BatteryCalibration and Titanium Backup that need root permissions. I'm just seeing more regular apps running now than before. And I've been checking app activity through the Go TaskManager Widget if that means anything. I'll take the advice and calibrate the battery after it's at %100 and give it some time, although I didn't change ROMs yet. Would flashing a ROM and then calibrating have any possible effect on this?
sometimes it's only visual bug try to wait and it will be fixed
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I'm only running BatteryCalibration and Titanium Backup that need root permissions. I'm just seeing more regular apps running now than before. And I've been checking app activity through the Go TaskManager Widget if that means anything. I'll take the advice and calibrate the battery after it's at %100 and give it some time, although I didn't change ROMs yet. Would flashing a ROM and then calibrating have any possible effect on this?
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Task managers tend to cause more harm than good, they're okay to monitor but killing apps all the time drains battery. As far as ram usage goes, a good custom rom will work wonders, and depending on which one you pick, the battery should improve too, but as far as calibrating goes its the same on any rom. Most recomend wipes.
When charging to 100% I highly reccomend using an app called current widget, because the battery is out of calibration it won't show an accurate full battery if it won't show an accurate draining one. So use current widget and charge overnight, or as long as you can, leave the phone locked as much as possible and check the mA value every now and then, and even if the phone says 100% wait til the mA reads close to 0, mine usually doesn't show less than 15mA after an overnight charge. Then wipe stats.
Sorry for the essay but I've read a lot about this and current widget seems to be the best tool I've found.
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I have a g2x that has absolutely horrid battery life when using WXCDMA. When using it on the go, I sometimes loose like 1% life per minute or so, getting quite warm in the process. Also, when these monsterous drains occur, it continues killing the battery while sleep.
When on wifi, the life is great. I have already tried all of the various fixes, but I haven't run across anything that would stop the wcdma modem from sucking so much power.
I'm wondering if reflashing the baseband would work? Is that file even available? Input is greatly appreciated, cause I am envious of people that can make it a full day on a charge....
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I have a g2x that has absolutely horrid battery life when using WXCDMA. When using it on the go, I sometimes loose like 1% life per minute or so, getting quite warm in the process. Also, when these monsterous drains occur, it continues killing the battery while sleep.
When on wifi, the life is great. I have already tried all of the various fixes, but I haven't run across anything that would stop the wcdma modem from sucking so much power.
I'm wondering if reflashing the baseband would work? Is that file even available? Input is greatly appreciated, cause I am envious of people that can make it a full day on a charge....
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not possible as far as i know... just try a factory reset, that is your best bet
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not possible as far as i know... just try a factory reset, that is your best bet
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Been there, done that. Flashed multiple roms also. Same issue
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have you tried getting a new sim card?
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Been there, done that. Flashed multiple roms also. Same issue
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"Flashed multiple roms" isn't helpful. Which roms did you flash? Have you tried CM7 or one based on CM?
Have you monitored your battery usage to figure out which apps are eating up your battery?
Do you turn GPS/bluetooth/wifi off when not in use?
Replaced battery (seems to help people who have over heating issues)?
The most common causes of the battery drain/overheating is a rouge app and/or just a bad battery. My battery never even gets warm. I've noticed that even after long periods of gaming or internet surfing that the phone is relatively cool, so it seems you definitely have a problem there. Finding that problem is key.
Before you jump the gun, my SETTINGS>ABOUT PHONE>BATTERY USE:
Cell Standby = 58%
Phone idle = 42%
Display = 2%
I don't know why that equals 102% but just roll with it. A good battery monitor app will tell you which specific application is eating battery. I don't use those as I don't have a need to since I don't have a problem, but check those out and report back.
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"Flashed multiple roms" isn't helpful. Which roms did you flash? Have you tried CM7 or one based on CM?
Have you monitored your battery usage to figure out which apps are eating up your battery?
Do you turn GPS/bluetooth/wifi off when not in use?
Replaced battery (seems to help people who have over heating issues)?
The most common causes of the battery drain/overheating is a rouge app and/or just a bad battery. My battery never even gets warm. I've noticed that even after long periods of gaming or internet surfing that the phone is relatively cool, so it seems you definitely have a problem there. Finding that problem is key.
Before you jump the gun, my SETTINGS>ABOUT PHONE>BATTERY USE:
Cell Standby = 58%
Phone idle = 42%
Display = 2%
I don't know why that equals 102% but just roll with it. A good battery monitor app will tell you which specific application is eating battery. I don't use those as I don't have a need to since I don't have a problem, but check those out and report back.
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I have a brand new sim card.
Yes I have tried cm 7
I haven't tried a new battery simply because its not the battery that gets really hot, its the phone, specifically the area around the camera lens.
Also it doesn't do this while on wifi.
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I think the processor is around the camera lens. I tried flashing a rom that would simply not boot. It would go from the LG screen to a black screen and hang. That is the only time my phone has been warm around the camera lens.
So try to figure out what is taxing your processor and stop it. What rom are you running? You still haven't provided enough details. What about a battery monitor? What apps do you have installed?
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I think the processor is around the camera lens. I tried flashing a rom that would simply not boot. It would go from the LG screen to a black screen and hang. That is the only time my phone has been warm around the camera lens.
So try to figure out what is taxing your processor and stop it. What rom are you running? You still haven't provided enough details. What about a battery monitor? What apps do you have installed?
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Nothing was taxing the processor. This has happened on the stock rom with no added apps. Surfing the internet is what made it warm. I used an app called watchdog to see the cpu usage and nothing even went above 40%
Maybe this is due to my lack of experience, but maybe not. It seems like every time I put a new ROM on my phone it goes to hell in about a month. I'm not a technician but I can follow directions for installation, patches, etc. So far I have had 0 long term success in installing a ROM that ends up being any better than stock after 30-60 days.
For example, I've had issues with battery drain, random booting while the phone is powered off, redraw issues, serious lag, data connectivity issues, and a few other things. It seems like its always something.
The only phones I've toyed with are my old Eris and my Charge. Is this a phone issue, noob issue, or is this par for the course? If it is par I'll end up back at stock and have mediocre performance rather than have a buzz saw that ends up needing constant tweaking and maintenance.
Btw this isn't a knock on developers. I appreciate them sharing all their hard work. I just want to know if everybody else goes through this or am I holding a bag of stupid.
Just rooting does nothing more than give you superuser access. It doesn't even do anything that uses the root specifically. Different roms do different things, but nothing to use battery...mostly they take things out rather than put things in.
Best thing to do is look at BetterBatteryStats and track partial wakelocks. That will tell you what is waking up your system and if there's anything spiking it, you can deal with it. Most of what really drains battery on this phone, other than bad apps, is somewhat random, and it will affect non-rooted phones just as much as rooted.
Must be something you did, picking a good rom make a big different. In my case. I flashed tweakstock to my daughter's phone since the first day it released (with tweakstock kernel), and never, I repeat never have any issue, when tweakstock 1.4 released, this is the second time I touch her phone and up until now she hasn't have any issue. If you use eclipse rom, PBJ kernel, Imonsey kernel, you're going to have issue. They are not bad roms or kernels, but they do have bugs. This is my experience.
Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
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Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
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Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
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Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
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you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
No i dont think its u...i have problems also.i jus made a post about my home/hard key...its always seems to b something after the next.but it looks like people find ways to deal and eventually conquer.also i appreciate wat the developers do.its alot of work and headaches.on top of posting and replying to many many people.its the roms that cause problems...constant tweaking and toying around...alot of times things jus need to b debugged a little it seems.but its all in the nature of what were all doing here.good luck to u
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you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
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Hey. how about give the "battery saver" app by Antutu a try. This is one of the kind. It does not kill processes like others. It actually readjust cpu frequency during usage and put your phone in heavy deep sleep, after installed, let it run for 2 days, you will notice at least 3-4 hrs more during usage and 10+ if you let your phone sleep. I have test this app with wifi,4g,gps on 24/7 and I still have good battery life.
I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
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I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
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Did you try to disable(freeze) SDM app and also Google service? May need to backup all your apps and do a factory/data reset, If not help, possible to re ODIN factory image (see pos # 5) since you have data drop issue. Some thing is mess up in your OS.
For betterbatterystats look at wakelock and see what process used the most.
If it died overnight then something is definitely eating your battery. Are you in a low signal environment? Go to settings, about phone, then battery usage. If anything besides display is taking more than around 5-10% (can be more if you use it a lot) then that's your main problem. If your cell standby is more than 25% it's the low signal that's killing the battery.
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Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
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I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
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Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
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I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
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Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
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To disable Google Service, go to settings -> location&security and uncheck Google service. Do not freeze Google framework. Also seems like your phone is not in deep sleep, please install "battery saver" by Antutu and let it works for 24 hrs, you should see huge different when your phone is sleeping. BTW what kernel are you using? If you're using PBJ kernel you can install "CPU tuner" to further keep your phone in deep sleep. I'm talking about 1% for 3 hrs sleeping.
I'm curious as to what Battery Saver actually does. The app's market page doesn't say. I'd be curious if it would interfere with my IMAP push email or SetCPU's overclock settings.
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I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
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I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
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I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
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Personally, I believe that most of the time the procedure does nothing. I think there are times, though, that corrupt data gets into the battery stats. For instance, I had an app lock up my phone and force a hard boot. When the phone came back up, it showed 22% more battery than it had previously. I believe that bad data such as this can over time affect how Android reads your battery life. In that instance, I believe clearing battery stats would help. I don't think doing it just because a new ROM was flashed actually does anything, though.
Hello,
I am trying to install some custom ROMS onto my phone and I just found one that I want to use. But I did read something that you should recalibrate your battery after installing custom ROMS. Is this true?
And my 2nd question is how to do this. Because I found an app: "Battery Calibration", but I don't know if this will do the trick. I know you can calibrate the battery with Clockwork too, but is this the same as the app?
Thanks in advance
Mathi
The purpose of recalibrating the battery is too get an accurate estimate of battery life. When you switch roms the processor usage changes. Your cell phone doesn't recognize this though and continues to estimate according to the old ROM usage.
I don't know about the apps, i've always done it the manual way.
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this app works if you follow the 3 steps, charge to 100% then calibrate it unplug your phone then let it discharge fully then when you recharge it don't unplug it until it hit 100% for the second time then you should notice a slight improvement in your phones battery life i am sure the app and cwm method are similar, but with this app you should have no problem its really easy to use, hope this helped, happy tweakin
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The purpose of recalibrating the battery is too get an accurate estimate of battery life. When you switch roms the processor usage changes. Your cell phone doesn't recognize this though and continues to estimate according to the old ROM usage.
I don't know about the apps, i've always done it the manual way.
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How do you do it manually? Let it complete drain out and fully charge ?
From the recovery menu.
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All sources have said that Battery Calibration is reliable.
Also keep in mind that with Li batteries, every time the battery dies, its life is shortened by a small amount; therefore, every time you drain it completely, you're actually losing a little bit of battery life.
Other than that, I would be that Google can pull up quite a few results.
According to Google dev blog, wiping batterystats.bin is unnecessary and is in fact useless. You can Google for the link....
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everytime i flash a rom also never do the battery calibration,it is necessary?
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everytime i flash a rom also never do the battery calibration,it is necessary?
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Not necessary at all, when you charge your battery 100% its already calibrated (status refreshed)
I've been using the battery calibration app ever since I started flashing ROMs and have done it every time I flash a new ROM. Can honestly say I notice a difference. Not always immediately as its advised to do a couple of full drain recharges before assessing your battery life
This will likely fix any battery reporting problems that occur and should be done after installing a rom, or whenever you think it is needed. It will not actually make your battery life better. It may seem like it as before resetting it may have said 1% remaining when it was really only half dead
NOTE: you must be rooted, which if you are on this forum you almost definitely are
1. fully charge battery and leave plugged in. click calibrate in this app or manually delete the file yourself: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLDEsImNvbS5uZW1hLmJhdHRlcnljYWxpYnJhdGlvbiJd
2. Unplug and let the phone die with normal use
3. charge it fully without a break.
4. done. thank me if it helps
This resets the battery stats. It was noted awhile back from someone at Google that this doesn't help with the battery. I used to use this app all the time after a flash and then a couple of months back i stopped using it and really haven't noticed a difference. I'm not trying to ruin your moment of helpfulness but I really don't think it helps with the battery.
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This resets the battery stats. It was noted awhile back from someone at Google that this doesn't help with the battery. I used to use this app all the time after a flash and then a couple of months back i stopped using it and really haven't noticed a difference. I'm not trying to ruin your moment of helpfulness but I really don't think it helps with the battery.
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No problem. You are right. This will not help if your battery is actually draining. It only changes what android thinks your battery level is at. this can get screwed up after a flash, depending on many factors of the rom. It also is different with every device. What it helps with is when your stats are off. for example temple run takes 60% of your battery when you play for 5 minutes and you know it isn't running, or it drains fast to 1% then lasts another 6 hours. So if you are noticing poor battery life, make sure it is really bad, not just reported wrong. I will edit the OP to say this more clear.
2. Unplug and let the phone die with normal use
3. charge it fully without a break.
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This is what really fixes the issue. Clearing battery stats with an app or through cwm is redundant.
I don't recommend discharging all the way though
I thought fully charging the battery reset the stats. No?
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I thought fully charging the battery reset the stats. No?
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I think partially, but I know for a fact this process works great and isn't that hard. It resets things better from my understanding because it totally wipes stats instead of just re-calibrating some things
hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
Get your phone to 100% battery and then just play whatever you like until it completely dies. Then, plug it in to charge and dont touch it until it gets back up to 100%. That is supposed to increase the battery lasting time by 20%. It only works once...so dont do it 5 times hoping for results. This is supposed to be done when you first get the phone, but if its never been you've never done it, its worth the shot.
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hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
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Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
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Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
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Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats. If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
By this time, the day is over and it needs to be charged anyways. I plug it into the charger before bed and let it charge up all the way with nothing running (no wifi, no bt, no background apps running).
After that charge, battery life seems soo much better. ymmv. it would be good to know if that works for you too.
Otherwise, everyone uses their phone differently, and some people install stupid apps that have intensive background services running that eat batteries, then complain about the rom sucking instead of introspecting about how they use their phone.
bhundven said:
Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats.
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Just to clarify - battery stats file have nothing to do with battery performance and the battery stat file "is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point)." Google Engineer Dianne Hackborn
ahh ok thanks guys ill do what you guys said and see if it helps
you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
mike-y said:
you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
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These arent as helpful as they use to be. I have seen and challenged people to run with and without and the added battery life is either very minimal or actually worse with these apps.
Battery saver apps where created when android was very young and had bad management of the battery power. The way it works now it should lower the power to the radios low enough to save battery but not completely shut off the radios. Shutting them off will actually harm battery life because it takes so much more power to turn them on and off repeatedly then to let them idle.
no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Download Gemini from the play store and manage the autorun for apps. That's what I do and it saves quite a bit of battery
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no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Ill agree with you on froyo but gingerbread towards the end was much better.
The biggest thing is people dont realize how much power is used to start and stop things. Letting them idle will use battery but not nearly as much if you start and stop many times a day. Now at night if you want to turn off those things then yeah go for it. But if you are a frequent phone checker then starting and stopping them everytime will chew through the battery.
A good example is this, its summertime go outside and look at your electric meter when the ac first turns on. It will spin reeal fast for a minute or so while the system gets everything going then it will slow down. This same thing applies to your phone and its radios. Each time you shut it off it has to go through a process so you dont get corrupted data. And when you turn it on it has to use a lot of battery to make sure things dont get messed up and get to the proper operating form.
So any app that shuts off the radios manually and such will end up costing you battery if you are a power user.
If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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thomas.raines said:
If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
justiz33 said:
I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
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Music soaks up a lot of battery as well as display, data, and sync. You can try turning off sync and data when you don't need them. But it sounds like you are doing better. I am still concerned with what else you have running in the background though... however, 12-16 hours isn't bad at all...
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bhundven said:
.... If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
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What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
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What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
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Yes, as well as /system/ and at least .android_secure on your microSD
I would recommend against fully discharging your battery as a matter of course. While this might have been useful in the days of NiCads, deep discharges and heat are the Kryptonite of LiIon batteries.