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I came across these two files and figured I'd share them with my fellow Voxers.
The one complaint (next to battery life) users have had is the ability to watch YouTube videos.
Well, I've attached the files for a 'Google Mobile' and a 'YouTube Mobile' that has worked well on my phone.
With the You'Tube mobile, you play the video straight off of the actual site and don't need any other 'codecs' for the phone. Unfortunately this doesn't apply to other streaming video web sites.
In that regard, I suggest the use of Skyfire Browser. I've attached this as well. I don't know if these are on the forum already but I figured it wouldn't hurt to have them here in this post.
Have fun.
View attachment youtube.CAB
View attachment GoogleSearch.CAB
View attachment Skyfire-SMP.CAB
Feel the heat
I prefer using skyfire as well.....but for some reason using it makes my s710 really warm at the back. I figure if its hot enough to feel at the back cover that means it must be boiling inside since the heat's been conducted through the battery and back cover. This heat can't be good for the health of the battery.
I still use it from time to time in any case. Just wondering if anyone else has this problem.
I suppose Vox technology is probably going to start showing it's age with software moving on to cater for more capable devices with better processors.
Also:
vTap doesn't seem to get much attention here. I think it's a great little app for internet videos.
www.vtap.com
(P.S.: I was unaware of people complaining of Vox battery life.....I always thought it had above average battery life. Even with full-on heavy use with wifi i can get 2 full days worth out of it)
That's interesting about the battery life. Do you use any special application or have some fancy tricks that you do? You're the first person I've come across to speak such crazy about the 2 days using Wi-Fi.
I also had tried vTap but it did not work for me some time ago. Maybe there has been an update that will work now.
Can an application be affected by a network provider? Here in South Africa I use Vodacom and perhaps my vTap wasn't working because the application was not compatible with the technology used by Vodacom.
Is this a feasible argument or am I talking dribble?
the latest tcpmp version also supports youtube!!! check it out, it works flawlessly.
how do u play you tube on tcpmp?
v1.2.5 build 4506 for ARM. Try it out. It has an inbuild feature of watching youtube videos.
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Nope, I'm not using any special apps or anything. Although I have gotten aggressive in the power saving settings and brought down the times for things switching off when idle. This was when I first got the phone and spent the first couple of days constantly browsing the internet on it and downloading apps for it....battery seemed to last a good long time.
Don't know what to say about vTap. I've tried it in a couple of places in europe and asia and it worked fine, but I always use it with wifi. I don't have a cheap data plan so I don't use GPRS much (which is slow anyway).
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v1.2.5 build 4506 for ARM. Try it out. It has an inbuild feature of watching youtube videos.
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isnt it coreplayer then?(as tcpmp was renamed to core player when becoming comercial(buy software)!) the last tcpmp version is something around 0.72!
Oh i forgot to mention... It is core player. and the version i mentioned is for ppc, for smartphones the version that supports you tube is V1.3.0 build 6213 for arm, i.e., 2008 version. and the latest tcpmp version is 0.81 and does not supports the subtitles plugin.
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Oh i forgot to mention... It is core player. and the version i mentioned is for ppc, for smartphones the version that supports you tube is V1.3.0 build 6213 for arm, i.e., 2008 version. and the latest tcpmp version is 0.81 and does not supports the subtitles plugin.
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once i used 0.82 subtitle version found it somewhere i dont remember but it had this function working!
is there a 0.82 version? the latest i knew was 0.81. I'll try to find it. Its great if subtitles work!!!
Archos just released it's android Pmp and has downloadable HD WMV and MPEG2 plugins. I guess they have to be purchased, but was wondering if this could be ported to G1 as it seems it would be pretty cool just to get a working mpeg2 codec.
It is a little difficult to decipher what they are saying here, but it almost seems like they are intimating that the Android pmp can read mkv too.
Now formats are usually the keys that are ruling the Video world. Some video services provide H.264-encoded videos, some provide WMV encoded ones, while others choose MKV as a format. It can be standard format (SD), or High-Definition (HD). It can be a maze to get through. With the extensive codec support of the ARCHOS 5, all it takes is a drop and drag to watch the video files you want, taking the tedium out of converting video files. You can then experience your favorite movies in super quality with finer details and richer colors with support of the most popular High Definition video formats.
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If only we could get a dump of this Andoid OS
Well apart from not being legal, their codecs will come without source code and be coded for acceleration on that hardware.
I've wanted an Archos PMP for a while, but now I REALLY want one!
Do I need one? Nah.
But I am drooling over this one.
As stated above, would be impossible.
I would be impossible (or rather, infeasible) to write any HD codecs in Java, so the chances of it strictly using the stock Android SDK is out the window. It's more than likely using the NDK, or worse, a highly customized version of Android, to do HD decoding.
Then, the ONLY chance of it working on the Dream, is if the hardware matches. I can't find the exact specs of it, but it's using an OMAP3 CPU, which throws any chance of it working out the window.
^^ Ahhh well. Makes sense, thanks for the input.. one can always dream
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^^ Ahhh well. Makes sense, thanks for the input.. one can always dream
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And so we have the HTC Dream
I would assume they ported already done codecs from C to C using the NDK.
I did some digging on this subject, couldn't really find a definite answer on the subject. I currently own a tilt, and am considering purchasing a fuze, since with the announcement of the tilt 2, they are dropping in price. But my concern is power! You might know, that the Tilt has some video driver issues, as in can't play h.264/mp4's too well, i.e. any video podcasts i download. I'm also hoping to get emulators running smoothly with sound, but thats not too important. So my question is this, is this issue resolved on the Fuze? I noticed a thread stickied discussing touch pro performance, but nothing really says "it's fixed". Saw a few posts saying the drivers are still crap though. Thanks for any help! (and sorry if it's already posted, and i just couldn't find it)
Fixed - no!
Watchable - yes, depending on the files you're starting with of course.
Being VGA (tilt is qvga) everything on the screen looks much better and coreplayer does make most things play quite well.
Basically I have found that you can play any format video on this device very smoothly, AS LONG as it doesnt use the dolby AC3 Codec for audio as coreplayer wont play this and you need to revert to the older, non hardware supporting TCMP. Luckily this means about 5% of my media
im hsving problems with the coreplayer key
HTC Album/full screen player plays .mp4's pretty well. Unfortunately, it has a sucky UI (rather, it doesn't have an interface).
you can use newer version of full screen player and htc album which have better interface controls. i would still spring for core player. plays my divx videos perfectly, full visual framerate and matching audio. much better than divxplayer.
Thanks for the replies you guys! So, just to clarify, if I bought a fuze, and downloaded any random video podcast, which is usually mp4, 640x480, I wouldn't be disappointed?
Hi all.
I purchased this device mostly to be used as a companion for when I stream to Justin.TV. This website uses both flash video and java at the same time. I want to monitor my video stream and the chat while I play. I know I could of got a netbook for this, but I would like the tablet for doing other things.
Some streams with lower quality work good for me, but my stream does not play. The stream will freeze, but I am able to hear the audio. My stream is in flash and is 720p, 3000kbps, H.264.
I tried some other 720p flash video and received the message "Video Not Optimized For Mobile Device". (Uh, yeah, that's why I bought a tablet and not a phone). Obviously this is because of the Android OS and not the hardware?
So I am half-happy because I can see the chat, but not the video. Is there anything I can do to help this? I am running TnT 2.2.0 with the flash player linked to in the thread.
If this can't be fixed for now, does anyone think it will be resolved in the future? Perhaps a better Flash apk that supports the Tegra better? Or would I be better with the new Viewsonic Viewpad?
Thanks
A lot of this is bleeding edge. We are using a phone OS that has been modded for tablets and not supported by Google (yet). And, the Tegra itself is relatively new and has had issues because of it.
In six months, I expect that a lot of these issues with be old news. But for now, it's a problem.
Which browser are using? Have you tried Dolphin HD and changed the User Agent to desktop?
For my stream I get the same results with the default browser and Dolphin HD, but for some reason with Dolphin HD I am forced to the mobile site every time. Even with user agent set to Desktop. So I can't try the HD flash video with Dolphin.
There is no mobile version of my stream.
Based on roebeet's post, I guess i'll stick it out and hope it gets better. I am already somewhat happy because I can run Ventrilo and see the chat at the same time. That's already more than my iPad can do.
Now if I can just get the USB keyboard working.
Thanks for the replies.
There are official releases for neon and ICS+ devices over on xbmc.org.
For Tegra2 / GB devices I'm likely not going to be working on them much, if at all going forward. I no longer have a Tegra2 or GB device and version 13 of the upstream code base has some changes that will make it very difficult to support the Tegra2 going forward.
Thank you to staticaDK, repvik, lavero.burgos, and XBMC Android for their help with mirroring.
staticaDK has suffered equipment failure and his mirror is down. Any links / bookmarks to his mirror will no longer work. Please DO NOT use old links to this mirror
The xbmchub.com guys are launching http://www.xbmcandroid.com/. The forums are open for registration for anyone that is interested.
We also have a FreeNode channel #xbmcandroid for those that are interested.
I have also broken out a lot of the information from this XDA thread as separate threads on xbmcandroid.com
Please note these are unofficial builds of XBMC, please report issues here or xbmcandroid.com ONLY
Builds are now auto-run every Sunday (through out the day). I will no longer be directly linking to the builds, please head over to the mirrors (links below) to download a given build.
XBMC, What is That?
XBMC is a media player / HTPC software package that does just about anything you'd want on a home theater box or a portable media device. See http://www.xbmc.org for more information.
Why Here?
I have been maintaining nightly builds of XBMC for Android and after a few requests and realizing my posts have been cross-linked it's time to create a central spot for the builds.
Schedule of Builds
Builds are now run automatically every Sunday.
What Is Special About These Builds?
I have re-built the CrystaX NDK that is required for XBMC from sources and made some compiler flag changes in order to improve NEON device support and to support the Tegra2 or other non-NEON devices. These are unsupported changes, particularly the Tegra2 and any other device without NEON. The official XBMC stance is NO device lacking NEON will receive support.
What Is / Is Not Supported
All builds are now built for 2.3.x (GingerBread) or higher devices. ARM ONLY. I will not be releasing MIPS or x86 builds.
Google TV devices are UNSUPPORTED. I do not know if / when the XBMC dev's will be supporting Google TV.
I will not be releasing aplayer builds. I will be leaving it up to Pivos to do releases. Please visit the Pivos forums for the latest builds with AMLogic hardware decode support.
Which Build Do I Want?
There are two builds, one for Tegra2 devices and another for NEON devices (see below for specifics). If you are not sure which type of device you have, try the NEON build and if it crashes, then use the Tegra2 build. If you have a non-NEON devices that is not the Tegra2, the Tegra2 build will run, but not all that great.
XBMC Compatibility List (Clickable link)
FAQ
Why is the APK so large?
This is a full build of XBMC including dependencies, resources and the like. There is a lot to the build and output. See http://pastebin.com/LgnWzdHW for a breakdown of what is contained within the APK including file sizes.
Does zipalign help with the size of the apk?
I ran zipalign and it didn't reduce the file size, likely won't help given what is packed in the apk.
Is there a better skin for touch screens?
Under the appearance settings there is a skin named "Touched" that works much better on touch screen devices than the default.
Does my hdmi out / dock / etc work for tv playback?
There are reports of this working properly in this thread and others.
Can I change the resolution for hdmi / similar playback?
Initial reports indicate this is not possible currently.
Does it work with CyanogenMod 10 (CM10)?
Maybe. Some users have reported success with CM10, others have had issues.
How do I get Fahrenheit Temperature?
Settings > System > International -> Change your region to USA if you want Fahrenheit
Common Problems
My screen starts flickering / freaking out: Kill the app, clear the app cache, restart devices, try again. Continue until the problem goes away.
I cannot play SD / 720p / 1080p content without stutters / dropped frames / audio sync issues / etc: Tough luck. Right now hardware decode support isn't complete, if your CPU can't process the video in software, you're stuck for the time being. The XBMC devs are working on hardware decode support and it will be done in due time. Do not ask for a deadline, there isn't one right now.
Battery life: Expect a pretty bad battery drain. This has been confirmed by a few others as well as the devices I tested. Given the project is targeting set-top boxes and similar equipment I would not expect this to be addressed until other, larger items are taken care of. Please do not complain to the official team about this item, complain here.
Resource utilization is high: This is known. Not going to change for awhile, do not complain to the official team, complain here.
Audio does not work: The XBMC audio levels and Android audio levels are not the same, you will need to adjust the volume in Android up to a higher level before launching XBMC most likely.
DVD Navigation may or may not work properly: This is known and being worked on by the main XBMC team.
/data is inaccessible: This partition is not accessible from XBMC.
Touchscreen Non-Responsive: Some users have reported the touchscreen taps aren't registering well or at all. The Toshiba Thrive 7" and 10" tablets seem to suffer the worst from this.
Tegra2 / non-NEON Problems (Must Read)
If your device does not have NEON, DO NOT COMPLAIN TO XBMC. Complain here.
Problems Under Investigation
XOOM 3g's running EOS ROMS appear to crash with a 0xdeadbeef pointer dereference
Working Add-Ons
1Channel -- Developer PM'd me and the choppyness is fixed in latest version (url in add-ons links below)
Anarcintosh's Icefilms
BBC iPlayer 2
dpstream
Freecable
fs.ua
FTP Sources
Icefilms
Navi-X
PBS
Samba Sources
Shared Library: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29899425&postcount=57
TED Talks plugin works great.
The Trailers plugin
Tuxbox
TVCatchup
Tvlinks
Broken Add-Ons
Bluecop's Amazon (crashes trying to unload librtmp.so -- symbol not found)
Bluecop's Hulu
MLBMC: Major League Baseball Media Center
myvideo.de
Trakt.tv stable. The version on github works on Windows, can anyone validate the version from git works on Android?
TuneInRadio
WebDav HTTPS
Sources
XBMC
Official: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc
My Fork (Includes Tegra2): https://github.com/mcrosson/xbmc/
Android NDK
Official: http://www.crystax.net/en/android/ndk/7
The above NDK is no longer used in my builds. I have tweaked the sources to include better NEON / Tegra2 support. My customizations are not available currently, but I am working on an NDK release based on the CrystaX changes and will be publishing my work once I am further along.
Add-On Links
lavero.burgos mirror: http://four-nineteen.com/veronica/XDA Developers/XBMC 4 Android/Addons/
1Channel: https://github.com/bstrdsmkr/1Channel -- Support: http://www.xbmchub.com/forums/1channel-plugin/
Jezz_X's re-touched skin
This is an alternative to the included "Touched" skin.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=128494
Builds (~50Mb each)
See above for compatibility. If you are unsure, try the NEON build first, if it works use it. Otherwise use the Non-NEON build.
Google TV devices are UNSUPPORTED. I do not know if / when the XBMC dev's will be supporting Google TV.
I will not build AMLPlayer builds, If you have a Pivos device, visit their forums for build information and releases
I will not build MIPS or x86
I have setup a goo.im mirror in addition to those below. It will contain the 2 most recent builds linked below. You can find the files here or within goo manager (devs/kemonine/xbmc and available in play store)
Mirrors / Builds
Builds are now auto-run every Sunday (through out the day). I will no longer be directly linking to the builds, please use the following mirrors to obtain a release.
Please note the box mirror contains every build that has been previously published and is more complete for legacy builds than the google code mirror
Box (link)
Thanks for getting it to work on non neon. I got the Toshiba thrive
Thank you!!!
Working good on my TF101
Cheers!
Great thread.
Is there any chance you can include a changelog of commits as you are building them then it will have all the information in one place without having to go to github etc.
Just a suggestion
flumpster said:
Great thread.
Is there any chance you can include a changelog of commits as you are building them then it will have all the information in one place without having to go to github etc.
Just a suggestion
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I will be calling out any noteworthy changes with the builds. Right now I haven't seen anything of note coming in on the commit logs. It looks like they are doing general cleanup and some under the hood work.
Thank you for bringing this to us Tegra 2 users. It works so damn well.
This is fantastic. Absolutely great. Is there anyway to import the visualizers from ProjectM?
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I will be calling out any noteworthy changes with the builds. Right now I haven't seen anything of note coming in on the commit logs. It looks like they are doing general cleanup and some under the hood work.
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Great mate.
It will help to keep things organised. No point in updating daily for minor things but I will definitely update weekly or when a major commit comes.
Thanks one again.
Thank you for this
Flyer
Can someone who has the files upload to adifferent location. I am interested in the tegra2 version
Thanks
hunkyn said:
Can someone who has the files upload to adifferent location. I am interested in the tegra2 version
Thanks
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Download works for me, I used the stock ICS browser (came with the ROM I'm using). Just hit download.
If you're websensed (at work/school, blocked by IT firewall/censored page), right click the link, copy link address, make a QR code here, install Barcode Scanner, and scan the generated barcode.
Testing on a Tegra 2 phone (it's the 3G version of the Sprint Motorola Photon 4G). I will edit/post with results. FYI, huge file size. Don't download on 3G/4G unless you're a light data user/you have a nice plan (US Cellular 5GB plan, FTW).
//edit: 48.82MB. Good lawd that's a big APK!
It starts...
It can play music... but it's kind of a PITA, vs. your favorite music app. First you have to add the source. Hit browse. "Android Music" is the place your music player is getting it from. It's a placeholder, like the Libraries in Windows 7/8.
You can launch apps from it. Neato.
Videos... Eh... They don't get added as easily as music. "Android videos" might refer to the camera roll, but it's not where I have my videos. I had to add that manually. I have a 720p MP4 of the Fallout 3 intro that MX Player plays like butter, but it plays like crap in XBMC. A 3GP video I took with a dumbphone of my niece b***h-slapping me (she was 2 at the time, and objected "but he's my friend" first, haha) played fine. A shorter 720p video, another MP4 from YouTube, but only 4.5MB as opposed to the Fallout video's 47.3MB, stuttered almost as bad as the Fallout video.
Scrolling is... um, difficult. On the main menu, and if you have to browse for anything. It's gonna fight you. Works if you can grab the itty bitty scroll bar. But if you just grab the directory tree and toss, it may work or it may not. Or it may open the folder you grabbed it by.
Basically... it's nice and fancy but not too practical. Can this receive streams from a PC or server?
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Download works for me
FYI, huge file size. Don't download on 3G/4G unless you're a light data user/you have a nice plan (US Cellular 5GB plan, FTW).
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Downloads were down earlier today. I had forgotten DropBox had limits to how much data can be sent via public links. I also didn't expect to get that many downloads in the course of a day. I've moved my file hosting to another provider that provides more transfer and a dashboard that should let me keep an eye on my limits better.
I have updated the post with links to include file sizes and made a note to see about decreasing the file sizes.
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It starts...
It can play music... but it's kind of a PITA, vs. your favorite music app. First you have to add the source. Hit browse. "Android Music" is the place your music player is getting it from. It's a placeholder, like the Libraries in Windows 7/8.
You can launch apps from it. Neato.
Videos... Eh... They don't get added as easily as music. "Android videos" might refer to the camera roll, but it's not where I have my videos. I had to add that manually. I have a 720p MP4 of the Fallout 3 intro that MX Player plays like butter, but it plays like crap in XBMC. A 3GP video I took with a dumbphone of my niece b***h-slapping me (she was 2 at the time, and objected "but he's my friend" first, haha) played fine. A shorter 720p video, another MP4 from YouTube, but only 4.5MB as opposed to the Fallout video's 47.3MB, stuttered almost as bad as the Fallout video.
Scrolling is... um, difficult
Can this receive streams from a PC or server?
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Which skin are you using? The default in the build is confluence which is optimized for keyboard / remote usage. The settings area has an appearance tab that will let you change to the "touched" skin which is infinately more managable on a smaller screen.
Once you add the sources you can scan the items to the library (including auto-scans on launch) that greatly improves visibility and access to content.
Your success with video is pretty much par for course on the Tegra2. XBMC currently does not have hardware decode support and relys on software rendering. It has 1/2 of the floating point units (why it won't receive official treatment) that you would find on a newer chip which greatly impedes its ability to decode video content. Things will improve once hardware decode support is available (it's being worked on in mainline). I will be working on improving the builds as much as I can while the mainline devs finish up general hardware decode support.
You can setup smb / ssh / upnp / similar sources and they should generally work.
finding a bit hit and miss opening the app on a Tegra 3 - TF300
will try and reboot and see if it's any better - have tried the force close/reopen
anyone else with more luck?
Edit: Reboot has helped - app opens no issue anymore
Thanks for the NEON build - using the Touched skin
Confluence looks better, but Touch is more functional by far!
On a Tegra 3 TF300:
720p AC3 mkv - playback OK but not watchable - stutter. Audio appears to play mostly uninterupted.
1080p DTS mkv - playback OK but not watchable, but audio and video stutter.
Keep up the good work!
Looking forward to a stable build with HW acceleration!
Yeah, I wasn't expecting much out of XBMC. I knew the limitations going in. 0% of the blame on you. Some is on nVidia (Tegra) and Motorola (Photon 4G/Electrify) but some is also on XBMC themselves. MX Player plays HD video beautifully on my phone, although I do have it formatted for my screen. So it's scaled down to 960x540 (not 720p as I stated above). So video playback is possible in Tegra 2. Not sure if MX Player's drivers are open source. Might be worth looking into.
And I was using Confluence, didn't think to change the skin. I use a ROM that has a hybrid tablet mode, so I'm used to touching smaller screen items than many Android users, particularly those on stock builds. I actually had little trouble hitting the tiny touch controls for media on the main screen, and those were some tiny buttons, but I'll check out the other skin.
Other skin checked out, works a lot better, thanks.
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Not sure if MX Player's drivers are open source. Might be worth looking into.
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I will definitely have a closer look I think I ran across it at some point but didn't look too closely.
This works wonderful on my Atrix!
This is pretty awesome development to see bro, good stuff! Keep up the good work, will be tryin it out on my TF101 after work. Man, now I feel I'm really going to want to cop a hdmi mini adapter....
~Poisoned Viper4g LTEvOne by TeamVenom, Lionheart Cranked to 1.72Jigawats Deadline: Ca1ned.
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Man, now I feel I'm really going to want to cop a hdmi mini adapter....
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I'd hold off until you know if it will perform or not. On the Tegra2's there is hit or miss support for even SD content. Support seems to boil down to container format and audio stream. I know my SD content stored in mkv with ac3/dts audio stutters badly at times. I've heard reports of xvid avi + mp3 audio being much better for playback.