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I was wondering if there are any good battery savers for the samsung infuse4G. i have the cpu tuner and not 100% sure how to use it. i have downloaded a half a dozen task manager/killers from the market. as of now i have "advanced task manager" killing every 5 min. i have some apps ignored. on the cpu tuner i messed around with it last night and got all things working fully on it. now it says everything but the power save and performance working. if there is anyone that uses this please let me know exactly how to use it. still a little confused about some settings. and if there is anything else i could try, let me know, and how to use it. Also i am currently on a different rom "bionix 1.2" i have Bluetooth and WiFi and all that normally off. the brightness is lower than 10 % all the time.
First, you posted this in the wrong section. Should be in general.
Second, setting your task manager to auto kill apps will decrease your battery life. On older versions of Android it may have helped, but on Froyo and newer some apps are loaded automatically in the background so they can open quicker when you access them or so they can receive notifications. These apps that are loaded in the background generally aren't doing anything at all and thus aren't using any extra battery. If you set your task manager to automatically kill them they will just keep loading, being killed, loading, being killed, etc., which DOES drain your battery.
i got a battery saver........INFUSED ROM FLASH IT!
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i got a battery saver........INFUSED ROM FLASH IT!
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After you flash the Infused ROM, turn auto-brightness off and do this to save battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124102
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After you flash the Infused ROM, turn auto-brightness off and do this to save battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124102
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Me and keith have gotten gr8 batt life thus far
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i got a battery saver........INFUSED ROM FLASH IT!
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Oh ok sounds good. So after I have it flashed it'll go to work? And thanks
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Oh ok sounds good. So after I have it flashed it'll go to work? And thanks
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This is what I do and may or may not matter but I get great results. Before I flash a ROM, I make sure my battery is charged to 100%. Once you are done flashing the ROM, calibrate the battery by:
- Charge to 100% turned on. Wait for the beep and notification that it is fully charged.
- Unplug and turn the phone off. Once off, plug in and let charge until you see 100% on the screen.
- Unplug again and turn the phone on. Once fully loaded, plug in and charge 100% again.
- Power down into recovery and delete Battery Stats under Advanced menu then reboot.
- Power on and charge to 100% again.
Usually it takes a few days for the battery to settle in but following these instructions, I get instant results.
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This is what I do and may or may not matter but I get great results. Before I flash a ROM, I make sure my battery is charged to 100%. Once you are done flashing the ROM, calibrate the battery by:
- Charge to 100% turned on. Wait for the beep and notification that it is fully charged.
- Unplug and turn the phone off. Once off, plug in and let charge until you see 100% on the screen.
- Unplug again and turn the phone on. Once fully loaded, plug in and charge 100% again.
- Power down into recovery and delete Battery Stats under Advanced menu then reboot.
- Power on and charge to 100% again.
Usually it takes a few days for the battery to settle in but following these instructions, I get instant results.
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I just did this. I have the infuse tomm with community voodoo and the battery goes from 100 to 60 in 2 hours with moderate use. I am a heavy tester and the brightness is almost 0 I'm not sure what I am doing wrong
Sorry I was on a phone when I typed that. Meant to say. I have the infuse the rom and I am a heavy texter. Have the brightness on almost 0 and I have CPU tuner going and task manager killing everything except 6 things every 5 min and when the screen is off. I can't figure out why my batter is dying so fast. Like it'll die with moderate use for around 5 hours. even if I have the screen off it'll die. I have some apps frozen with this bloat freezer.
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Sorry I was on a phone when I typed that. Meant to say. I have the infuse the rom and I am a heavy texter. Have the brightness on almost 0 and I have CPU tuner going and task manager killing everything except 6 things every 5 min and when the screen is off. I can't figure out why my batter is dying so fast. Like it'll die with moderate use for around 5 hours. even if I have the screen off it'll die. I have some apps frozen with this bloat freezer.
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Did you read post #2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14885241&postcount=2 Auto killing some apps will drain your battery faster than leaving them running. I didn't know this until now. So I have deleted all taskmanager apps I was trying and will only use JD without any task killing functions enabled.
I only use Advanced Task Killer to manually kill tasks. I also am careful not to install tons of stuff at once - that way if I get a "bad app" that eats battery I've got a good guess what the culprit is.
The autobrightness/swipe-brightness trick works great.
Kill WiFi if you're not using it.
The new Infusion undervolt kernel is awesome. One day I was at 50% at the end of a work day (admittedly WiFi was turned on but not in use for a good portion of that), the next day I was at 79% at the end of the day. (WiFi turned off + Infusion kernel set to undervolt with no overclocking.)
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First, you posted this in the wrong section. Should be in general.
Second, setting your task manager to auto kill apps will decrease your battery life. On older versions of Android it may have helped, but on Froyo and newer some apps are loaded automatically in the background so they can open quicker when you access them or so they can receive notifications. These apps that are loaded in the background generally aren't doing anything at all and thus aren't using any extra battery. If you set your task manager to automatically kill them they will just keep loading, being killed, loading, being killed, etc., which DOES drain your battery.
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Ohh OK. So don't have any task manager; task killers at all? I just figured I would need to have all those apps killed so. I had it backwards. So should I have anything to help the batteRy?
Entropy512 said:
I only use Advanced Task Killer to manually kill tasks. I also am careful not to install tons of stuff at once - that way if I get a "bad app" that eats battery I've got a good guess what the culprit is.
The autobrightness/swipe-brightness trick works great.
Kill WiFi if you're not using it.
The new Infusion undervolt kernel is awesome. One day I was at 50% at the end of a work day (admittedly WiFi was turned on but not in use for a good portion of that), the next day I was at 79% at the end of the day. (WiFi turned off + Infusion kernel set to undervolt with no overclocking.)
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i just flashed that kernel. i mean i guess i have it on there. i flashed it cwm, and it said it was successful. so how does that save battery exactly? oh and now i see. i have cpu tuner, and it lets me go uhp to 1.6 ghz sweeeeeet. but wont that drain the battery even more?
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i just flashed that kernel. i mean i guess i have it on there. i flashed it cwm, and it said it was successful. so how does that save battery exactly? oh and now i see. i have cpu tuner, and it lets me go uhp to 1.6 ghz sweeeeeet. but wont that drain the battery even more?
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Guess you missed my comment about undervolting without overclocking...
I use a task killer to manually kill apps, especially if one appears to be misbehaving. I NEVER use an autokiller.
The task manager that came with the phone is bad if you clear all running things at once? just got my android not familiar with this os
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The task manager that came with the phone is bad if you clear all running things at once? just got my android not familiar with this os
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Task killers don't work in froyo and above, because google disabled them.
They're bad. Period.
The one that comes with it is best to use sparingly.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Task killers don't work in froyo and above, because google disabled them.
They're bad. Period.
The one that comes with it is best to use sparingly.
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Wrong. Google did nothing to disable them, they just reduced the need for them and the effectiveness of them against many apps.
However, some apps just need a good killing when you're done with them, like Facebook. Facebook seems to inhibit a lot of power management functions from working properly... On my old device (AT&T Tilt2 running XDAndroid), Facebook was the #1 culprit as far as wakelocking a device.
However, as I said - autokillers are BAD, and randomly killing stuff unless you KNOW it's a pesky app can be bad.
use setcpu for profiles, e.g. screen off 100mhz - 200mhz with 100% priority.
running Infused 1.5 with Infusion 1.5 kernel (note that the UV in Infusion 1.5 is broken atm)
screen on auto
wifi/data on 24/7
made couple phone calls
navigation used for ~30 min
online surfing facebook/banking
work e-mail refresh every 5min from 7pm to 10am.
15% after 29hrs use. (is that good?)
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Wrong. Google did nothing to disable them, they just reduced the need for them and the effectiveness of them against many apps.
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You sir, are full of crap.
http://androinica.com/2010/08/froyo-update-kills-android-task-killer-apps/
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MikeyMike01 said:
You sir, are full of crap.
http://androinica.com/2010/08/froyo-update-kills-android-task-killer-apps/
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No, you are, as evidenced by you linking to an article that is almost a year old without checking to see if anything had changed since it was published. Advanced Task Killer is more than capable of killing apps - Google may have disabled it temporarily last August but it's been working since March of this year at least (That's when I first got a Froyo device). As I stated - some apps (like the Music app) are set up so they auto-respawn when killed, but they CAN be killed (However, autokilling them is going to eat your battery). A number of apps also do NOT auto-respawn, as I said before, Facebook is one example, and it's an example of an app that is notorious for eating battery and needing a task killer to take care of it.
Now the way sleep and power management works on our Infuse might mean Facebook is less problematic on our devices, but in the case of XDAndroid builds on MSM devices, the Facebook app clearly would prevent the device from entering deep sleep in a timely manner, causing it to eat battery like crazy. Killing it with Advanced Task Killer would fix the problem.
Edit: As another example, it can also kill the Browser process successfully, which is great for when the Browser process gets wacked out. I haven't had any issues with the Browser on the Infuse, but it could easily make the whole system extremely sluggish on XDAndroid Froyo builds.
Hello,
Anybody who flashed tons of different ROMs, can you comment which ROM provided best battery life for you. I'm not looking for absolute numbers but comparison of different ROMs as far as battery drain is corncerned for the same user.
Is less about the rom and more about the kernel and u/v u/c in my opinion...radio can have an effect too
Currently I am on coca-cola with dag's .3 kernel using the Gideon battery saver script.
I like using that on the quickwiz rom too
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Hello,
Anybody who flashed tons of different ROMs, can you comment which ROM provided best battery life for you. I'm not looking for absolute numbers but comparison of different ROMs as far as battery drain is corncerned for the same user.
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Ive been flashing a lot of roms the past week. I'm currently using [ROM][UXKJ2]Buoyancy v1.3.0||Rogers/AT&T||[1/25/12]
Deff the best so far. Very quick and it's been 11.5 hours and I'm at 57%! Kudos to jomeister15 and his team!
You are on ATT network and in LTE enabled zone?
Nexus had the best for me. I also hear Buoyancy is great as well. Sky ice cream sandwhich is what im running now but i charge my phone a lot. An update should be coming soon for battery life fixes on it though.
radio on or off?
I've been running TPC v3 on my 727R for about 2 weeks, with his oc startup script. My battery life wasn't so great until I decided to start turning off data while not using it. Made my battery life go through the roof.
From full charged, I was still at 69% 20 hours later. Mind you, I wasn't using it that much but even still.
Which leads me to wonder: are people actually turning radio off when not in use? Because with it on, I can't get anywhere near those numbers.
What will you be missing if background sync is off while screen is out? everything relying on push notifications will stop working or will be there some other noticeable changes?
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I use skyICS and I get pretty good battery.
The pic is of my first battery cycle on skyICS, with pretty decent usage on it. The red little bit at the end is me trying to kill the battery. I had wifi on, data, sync, flashlight, and ran quadrant standard non-stop for about a 30 minutes.
I think a lot of it will depend on how you use the phone. As mentioned above, simply turning off data saves you a lot of power. Going into airplane mode saves even more. I lose almost nothing in airplane mode (I put it on at night). You can get an app in the market that will auto turn off settings for you if you're too lazy to do it yourself.
Maybe this is due to my lack of experience, but maybe not. It seems like every time I put a new ROM on my phone it goes to hell in about a month. I'm not a technician but I can follow directions for installation, patches, etc. So far I have had 0 long term success in installing a ROM that ends up being any better than stock after 30-60 days.
For example, I've had issues with battery drain, random booting while the phone is powered off, redraw issues, serious lag, data connectivity issues, and a few other things. It seems like its always something.
The only phones I've toyed with are my old Eris and my Charge. Is this a phone issue, noob issue, or is this par for the course? If it is par I'll end up back at stock and have mediocre performance rather than have a buzz saw that ends up needing constant tweaking and maintenance.
Btw this isn't a knock on developers. I appreciate them sharing all their hard work. I just want to know if everybody else goes through this or am I holding a bag of stupid.
Just rooting does nothing more than give you superuser access. It doesn't even do anything that uses the root specifically. Different roms do different things, but nothing to use battery...mostly they take things out rather than put things in.
Best thing to do is look at BetterBatteryStats and track partial wakelocks. That will tell you what is waking up your system and if there's anything spiking it, you can deal with it. Most of what really drains battery on this phone, other than bad apps, is somewhat random, and it will affect non-rooted phones just as much as rooted.
Must be something you did, picking a good rom make a big different. In my case. I flashed tweakstock to my daughter's phone since the first day it released (with tweakstock kernel), and never, I repeat never have any issue, when tweakstock 1.4 released, this is the second time I touch her phone and up until now she hasn't have any issue. If you use eclipse rom, PBJ kernel, Imonsey kernel, you're going to have issue. They are not bad roms or kernels, but they do have bugs. This is my experience.
Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
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Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
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Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
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Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
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you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
No i dont think its u...i have problems also.i jus made a post about my home/hard key...its always seems to b something after the next.but it looks like people find ways to deal and eventually conquer.also i appreciate wat the developers do.its alot of work and headaches.on top of posting and replying to many many people.its the roms that cause problems...constant tweaking and toying around...alot of times things jus need to b debugged a little it seems.but its all in the nature of what were all doing here.good luck to u
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you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
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Hey. how about give the "battery saver" app by Antutu a try. This is one of the kind. It does not kill processes like others. It actually readjust cpu frequency during usage and put your phone in heavy deep sleep, after installed, let it run for 2 days, you will notice at least 3-4 hrs more during usage and 10+ if you let your phone sleep. I have test this app with wifi,4g,gps on 24/7 and I still have good battery life.
I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
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I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
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Did you try to disable(freeze) SDM app and also Google service? May need to backup all your apps and do a factory/data reset, If not help, possible to re ODIN factory image (see pos # 5) since you have data drop issue. Some thing is mess up in your OS.
For betterbatterystats look at wakelock and see what process used the most.
If it died overnight then something is definitely eating your battery. Are you in a low signal environment? Go to settings, about phone, then battery usage. If anything besides display is taking more than around 5-10% (can be more if you use it a lot) then that's your main problem. If your cell standby is more than 25% it's the low signal that's killing the battery.
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Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
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I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
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Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
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Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
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To disable Google Service, go to settings -> location&security and uncheck Google service. Do not freeze Google framework. Also seems like your phone is not in deep sleep, please install "battery saver" by Antutu and let it works for 24 hrs, you should see huge different when your phone is sleeping. BTW what kernel are you using? If you're using PBJ kernel you can install "CPU tuner" to further keep your phone in deep sleep. I'm talking about 1% for 3 hrs sleeping.
I'm curious as to what Battery Saver actually does. The app's market page doesn't say. I'd be curious if it would interfere with my IMAP push email or SetCPU's overclock settings.
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I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
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I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
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I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
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Personally, I believe that most of the time the procedure does nothing. I think there are times, though, that corrupt data gets into the battery stats. For instance, I had an app lock up my phone and force a hard boot. When the phone came back up, it showed 22% more battery than it had previously. I believe that bad data such as this can over time affect how Android reads your battery life. In that instance, I believe clearing battery stats would help. I don't think doing it just because a new ROM was flashed actually does anything, though.
hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
Get your phone to 100% battery and then just play whatever you like until it completely dies. Then, plug it in to charge and dont touch it until it gets back up to 100%. That is supposed to increase the battery lasting time by 20%. It only works once...so dont do it 5 times hoping for results. This is supposed to be done when you first get the phone, but if its never been you've never done it, its worth the shot.
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hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
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Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
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Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
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Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats. If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
By this time, the day is over and it needs to be charged anyways. I plug it into the charger before bed and let it charge up all the way with nothing running (no wifi, no bt, no background apps running).
After that charge, battery life seems soo much better. ymmv. it would be good to know if that works for you too.
Otherwise, everyone uses their phone differently, and some people install stupid apps that have intensive background services running that eat batteries, then complain about the rom sucking instead of introspecting about how they use their phone.
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Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats.
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Just to clarify - battery stats file have nothing to do with battery performance and the battery stat file "is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point)." Google Engineer Dianne Hackborn
ahh ok thanks guys ill do what you guys said and see if it helps
you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
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you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
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These arent as helpful as they use to be. I have seen and challenged people to run with and without and the added battery life is either very minimal or actually worse with these apps.
Battery saver apps where created when android was very young and had bad management of the battery power. The way it works now it should lower the power to the radios low enough to save battery but not completely shut off the radios. Shutting them off will actually harm battery life because it takes so much more power to turn them on and off repeatedly then to let them idle.
no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Download Gemini from the play store and manage the autorun for apps. That's what I do and it saves quite a bit of battery
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no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Ill agree with you on froyo but gingerbread towards the end was much better.
The biggest thing is people dont realize how much power is used to start and stop things. Letting them idle will use battery but not nearly as much if you start and stop many times a day. Now at night if you want to turn off those things then yeah go for it. But if you are a frequent phone checker then starting and stopping them everytime will chew through the battery.
A good example is this, its summertime go outside and look at your electric meter when the ac first turns on. It will spin reeal fast for a minute or so while the system gets everything going then it will slow down. This same thing applies to your phone and its radios. Each time you shut it off it has to go through a process so you dont get corrupted data. And when you turn it on it has to use a lot of battery to make sure things dont get messed up and get to the proper operating form.
So any app that shuts off the radios manually and such will end up costing you battery if you are a power user.
If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
justiz33 said:
I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
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Music soaks up a lot of battery as well as display, data, and sync. You can try turning off sync and data when you don't need them. But it sounds like you are doing better. I am still concerned with what else you have running in the background though... however, 12-16 hours isn't bad at all...
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.... If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
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What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
HKSpeed said:
What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
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Yes, as well as /system/ and at least .android_secure on your microSD
I would recommend against fully discharging your battery as a matter of course. While this might have been useful in the days of NiCads, deep discharges and heat are the Kryptonite of LiIon batteries.
We all want good battery life, that is a given. With the large batteries and the optimized operating systems versions most of us are running today, we all should have it. But often times we don't, why not? Apps with services causing wake lock issues are often to blame. So, I wanted to start this thread to post all apps we have found to either avoid or with workarounds to prevent bad battery life from ensuing.
toshibathomas said:
We all want good battery life, that is a given. With the large batteries and the optimized operating systems versions most of us are running today, we all should have it. But often times we don't, why not? Apps with services causing wake lock issues are often to blame. So, I wanted to start this thread to post all apps we have found to either avoid or with workarounds to prevent bad battery life from ensuing.
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Greenify, Disable Services...Need root though I think
Qas. said:
Greenify, Disable Services...Need root though I think
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The paid version or the free one?
Make sure no apps are running in the background, if you're not gonna be using your phone for a few hours turn your brightness to the lowest possible, make sure your screen shuts off in less settings ect.
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just dont run apps in background, it will drain your battery drastically
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The paid version or the free one?
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both have the same funcionality. the paid one is just a donation to developer, if you like his app.
Is it a 'to kill' or 'most wanted' list bro? How many $'s will be paid?LOL..
Ok, as u can search in xda , there are alot of posts ppl complaining about some cpu and battery hunger background processes and apps .
In my case these was built in "download manager " and "audio effect service".
I removed the 2nd one permanently!
So?
I usually turn auto sync off
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facebook...it consumes about 20% of my battery even without opening it once
unistalled it, no actual need of checking it on the phone
robrobbbbb said:
facebook...it consumes about 20% of my battery even without opening it once
unistalled it, no actual need of checking it on the phone
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I agree, facebook its battery sucker...
Wifi, Scrreen brightness, Auto sync, GPS and games in general seem to be the big culkprits for my battery draining. Even simple things like turning auto rotate off can help a tiny bit for performance and battery life. Limiting your amount of active widgets and screens animations on your fancy launcher can cut down as well on battery and performance. Certain IM apps like facebook chat, skype, and a ton of others will kill your device fast. Google + is known to be a bandwidth hog and batttery killer. I noticed when im browsiing youtube simple things like turning off hd will dramatically help improve battery life because your network is not sucking as much bandwidth.
There is all kinds of stuff to do . It is a constant battle.
Greenify app & use Lean Kernel if possible
Like many have said, apps running in the background are the main culprits of a shirt battery life. Unless you feel those apps are truly essential I recommend uninstalling those apps.
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Using greenify like most of you guys. Yesterday I installed lux lite on a new custom ROM and noticed it was responsible for about 25% of my battery usage over about an hour with the screen on. Anyone with experience with this app know if this is normal behavior?
maches said:
Using greenify like most of you guys. Yesterday I installed lux lite on a new custom ROM and noticed it was responsible for about 25% of my battery usage over about an hour with the screen on. Anyone with experience with this app know if this is normal behavior?
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No issues with lux lite here. I got the paid version and the dusk/night features are great
USB Chargers
I don't know if anyone realizes this, but what I have experienced with my phones(from Nexus One - Nexus 4) I have noticed when I charge my phone through a computer the battery seems to go out faster. When I connect it directly to power it lasts much longer.
Has anyone else noticed this"?
Only close apps
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yahoo messanger if signed in it's a big eater
some antivirus and the Android System, some very drain battery, Custom ROM the best!
install battery calibration