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[Q] Tablet question...

Of the following 4+ which would you people get and why?
The 2 bigger screen android Asus tablets...the Notion Ink Adam or wait quite a while for Adam 2?...or the rumored HTC tablets?
I'm really leaning towards one of the 2 asus tablets or waiting for the HTC tablets cuz:
1) I'm half Taiwanese and if you see my sign it only has HTC phones hehe
2) The Asus ones are coming out pretty soon and seem like good bang for the buck.
Sorry if this is a repeat question and please do link to similar/same threads!
Thanks in advance.

CTR01 said:
Of the following 4+ which would you people get and why?
The 2 bigger screen android Asus tablets...the Notion Ink Adam or wait quite a while for Adam 2?...or the rumored HTC tablets?
I'm really leaning towards one of the 2 asus tablets or waiting for the HTC tablets cuz:
1) I'm half Taiwanese and if you see my sign it only has HTC phones hehe
2) The Asus ones are coming out pretty soon and seem like good bang for the buck.
Sorry if this is a repeat question and please do link to similar/same threads!
Thanks in advance.
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None of the above as an early adopter (except the HTC maybe). These companies don't make cell phones, and have very little experience with android. Buying them early is begging to get a lemon, especially when trying to save money if you're buying in the price bracket i'm guessing these will fall in.

even if other pretty/kinda credible websites such as slashgear give good to decent reviews of certain products? the asus ones received decent to good reviews on just demo/pre-production units.

I really do not see the practicality of a tablet, very limited in functionality, Give me a 10" slimline netbook wirelessly tethered to my HTC or with an aircard any day, 100 time more useful for half the price & you get real quality hardware & proper web browsing functionality on an OS & browser of your choice.

thanks...but...
Mister B said:
I really do not see the practicality of a tablet, very limited in functionality, Give me a 10" slimline netbook wirelessly tethered to my HTC or with an aircard any day, 100 time more useful for half the price & you get real quality hardware & proper web browsing functionality on an OS & browser of your choice.
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Thanks for the reply and show of your opinion but it has nothing to do with what I asked about...

An expansion of options was the underlying point :-D
Might not help you too much but could help other using this thread as a reference on tablet purchase.

Lol ok fair enough ; )
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New gTablet Review - Shares many of my feelings

I stumbled on this review while looking for info on new ROM's. It paints a decent picture of my ugly but hardy tablet. If I ever sell it, this article would be a good link to help bump up the price . It's a half decent read and at least half-way accurate. Check it out: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8017833/viewssonic_g_tablet_the_best_android.html?cat=15

matguard said:
I stumbled on this review while looking for info on new ROM's. It paints a decent picture of my ugly but hardy tablet. If I ever sell it, this article would be a good link to help bump up the price . It's a half decent read and at least half-way accurate. Check it out: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8017833/viewssonic_g_tablet_the_best_android.html?cat=15
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Ugly? I wouldn't say the thing is ugly.

The article's author is Chris Matier. The OP is 'matguard'. Coincidence? Perhaps. Still, good article.

Hmmmm, who is this really?
Anyways, very good review. It kind of explains why I still kept and use it after going out and buying an Ipad 2, and I am still running it stock.
The Ipad was necessary for the very good business apps I needed and really like and use. But other than being an owner of Ipods I have never been a user of Apple. Right off the bat, the closed society and structure grates me more than I thought it would. I could never go with their desktops or laptops.
By the way, I had used two credit cards on the Itunes store and both had the numbers lifted with attempted big purchases from the thief. Now only use Itunes gift cards but WTF? So much for Apple's security. They just go into denial mode when anyone complains or points out defects.

This review pretty much states my reasons for having the tab and loving it also. I jumped on it during a woot sale. Tried to go unrooted for a bit, but the rooting was easy, the roms are fun. I enjoy my tablet greatly.

This review is spot on. Explains all reasons I like and dislike my tablet. XDA is a necessity for this tablet to shine.
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[Q] Should I buy an android tablet?

Hey, I'm sorry if there's a similar thread floating around somewhere, but I searched as best as I could from my phone...
Anyway, I recently received a free ipad 2, and as I expected, I hate it. I plan to sell it ASAP. So I'm faced with the decision of simply keeping the money, or getting an android tablet in it's wake. From what I've read, there don't seem to be very many apps for tablets, and really, how useful are tablets in the first place? Considering that I'm a university student with a brand new gaming laptop, the only real use I can think of for a tablet is for reading textbooks/studying notes, etc. On top of that, I have a Moto Atrix, so an android tablet seems kinda redundant...
So am I missing something? Does anyone have an android tablet and want to defend the purpose of owning one? Are there decent games at least? Or should I just pocket the ~$500 I'll get for the ipad?
Thanks and again, I apologize if I'm in the wrong place or reposting

I would say no. if an atrix tab-dock comes to market reconsider but it sounds like you would regret a tablet.
Trust me d-..-b im from the webs

I'd keep the money. Like you said, you have an Atrix and a laptop. Me, I have a Defy and a netbook. I love the netbook despite it's ****ty hardware. And I would take a netbook over a tablet every time.

Damn. They're just so cool, but so useless. Maybe I'll wait until ice cream sandwich and then reconsider my decision. Thanks
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tablet is useless to me

[Q] WebOS Long-term outlook

Hi everyone,
I have an opportunity to buy an HP Touchpad for quite cheap (about $100 for a 16GB wifi) but after doing some research it kind of looks like WebOS is dying. I've had a hard time even tracking down an ereader app, and the only one I've found looks a bit questionable in terms of tablet-optimization. It would be great if I could just install Android on it, but it doesn't look like that's possible. So, basically what I'm wondering is whether WebOS–particularly as a tablet platform–is likely to grow and improve very much, or is it really as dead-in-the-water as it looks? I know you guys might be a bit biased, but I figure you also have much better knowledge of the OS than I do .

m_piedlourde said:
Hi everyone,
I have an opportunity to buy an HP Touchpad for quite cheap (about $100 for a 16GB wifi) but after doing some research it kind of looks like WebOS is dying. I've had a hard time even tracking down an ereader app, and the only one I've found looks a bit questionable in terms of tablet-optimization. It would be great if I could just install Android on it, but it doesn't look like that's possible. So, basically what I'm wondering is whether WebOS–particularly as a tablet platform–is likely to grow and improve very much, or is it really as dead-in-the-water as it looks? I know you guys might be a bit biased, but I figure you also have much better knowledge of the OS than I do .
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Just check this and tell me by yourself if the tablet is dead... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202444
Also you can check at precentral Forum at Touchpad section and you will find everything about the HP Touchpad overthere.

WebOS has the full support of HP.
dont listen to the haters out there, remember when android first came out.
Everyone said "they will never make it, apple has the market locked up" and now look @ the market share android controls. Remember that the TP, VEER and Pre3 are first gen HP WebOS devices. Palm is gone along with the hardware. The WebOS ecosystem will be a major player in the enterprise market and consumer as well.
Unlike WP7, HP makes hardware and that is a huge advantage imop. android is everywhere, but the experience varies by manufacture. HP is creating a family of WebOS products that all have the same great experience and the will talk to each other. I dream of the day when my WebOS refridgerator that is synced with my phone will allow me to answer a call, order pizza, alert me of a text or email and all kinds of things. i know it sounds crazy, but electronics, appliances and cars all synced in one ecosystem would rule!
check out "http://www.webosroundup.com/" - "http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page" - "http://www.precentral.net/"
article and links to the world of WebOS!

Or check this and tell us if its dead.....
http://www.precentral.net/app-sales-skyrocket-and-developers-join-game-webos-not-dead

m_piedlourde said:
Hi everyone,
I have an opportunity to buy an HP Touchpad for quite cheap (about $100 for a 16GB wifi) but after doing some research it kind of looks like WebOS is dying. I've had a hard time even tracking down an ereader app, and the only one I've found looks a bit questionable in terms of tablet-optimization. It would be great if I could just install Android on it, but it doesn't look like that's possible. So, basically what I'm wondering is whether WebOS–particularly as a tablet platform–is likely to grow and improve very much, or is it really as dead-in-the-water as it looks? I know you guys might be a bit biased, but I figure you also have much better knowledge of the OS than I do .
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noooooooooooooooooooo it will die every time webOS makes a nice little change android make almost 3 big changes

jamcar said:
noooooooooooooooooooo it will die every time webOS makes a nice little change android make almost 3 big changes
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Don't be so negative, everything has pros. and cons.

TravisAntonio said:
Don't be so negative, everything has pros. and cons.
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it's true i had a htc hero ( android phone before android took off) but it was stolen and i got a palm pre for $20 and now that android did take off a cant wait to get another android phone

I was wrong, HP dropped us (webos users) like a used tissue
http://www.pcworld.com/article/238417/hp_says_so_long_to_webos_devices.html

Cptnjarhead said:
I was wrong, HP dropped us (webos users) like a used tissue
http://www.pcworld.com/article/238417/hp_says_so_long_to_webos_devices.html
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Man, I feel for you... it's not often someone has the Cajones to show up on a forum days later and say "bow, was I wrong"....
Honestly, I just used my first WebOS device days ago. Not a Touchpad, an original PRE... I can see why it failed.... and why it had promise. The device was neat, but too quirky. I got it set up and working for a friend, and actually usable thanks to the folks over at webos internals...
Now, as far as HP's closing of the WebOS unit.. and their promise to monetize it.... In the current mobile tech climate, it's BLATANTLY OBVIOUS why they did this.
They JUST realized that WebOS/Palm is worth more as a patent portfolio than as any actual production. Expect one of two outcomes shortly:
1) Lawsuits...
or
2) Portfolio Bidding War...
Both strategies are going to earn HP enormously more shareholder value than continuing to struggle along. Though, I hear echos of Monty Python's "'Tis but a Flesh Wound" and "I'm not dead yet!" in the distance. Good lord, look how long it took Amiga or OS/2 to die.

if i was a dying phone company (looking at you Nokia!!) i'd seriously consider buying WebOS....a truly unique system

ace9988 said:
if i was a dying phone company (looking at you Nokia!!) i'd seriously consider buying WebOS....a truly unique system
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Nokia's already got an under-the-table deal to sell to Microsoft if its WP7 phones don't start bumping up its share price, or I'll eat my hat. (with mustard)

kiwifruit said:
Nokia's already got an under-the-table deal to sell to Microsoft if its WP7 phones don't start bumping up its share price, or I'll eat my hat. (with mustard)
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i know but if it wants a good system of its own rather than suckering up to microsoft as it has, then this is a good opportunity, since it's abandoned a really good system like Meego aswell

I think Nokia is dead in the water. They are not that great with updating OSes.
Take symbian for example. Nokia taking up WebOS would be like tying 2 anchors together.
LOL, reading this thread makes me giggle. It's funny how people are saying webOS is alive and kicking and then all of a sudden HP throws it away.
Very unexpected and tragic. But with android and iOS dominating everything, it was a matter of time.

I wouldn't take HP's action today as a referendum on WebOS. As a matter of fact, WebOS is the one thing that they are holding on to. What they are dropping is their entire consumer product line. That's all tablets, desktops, and laptops. They sold half a billion dollars worth of product in that division last year, but the margins are too small and the risk is high with so much competition. This is about much more than lackluster sales for WebOS products (which haven't even been on the market for six months).
The question is, if HP's not building WebOS hardware, who is?
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Anyone think that the hp pre 3 well make it to the US after the big announcement today
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Leo says "I wuz wrong, dead wrong!"
Cptnjarhead said:
WebOS has the full support of HP.
dont listen to the haters out there.
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Care to change your tune?

DoogieDC said:
The question is, if HP's not building WebOS hardware, who is?
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OOOOO! OOOOOO! I can answer that one! I can answer it right now!
The answer is: Nobody

almightyjoe82 said:
Anyone think that the hp pre 3 well make it to the US after the big announcement today
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Not a snowball's chance. None of the carriers wanted it, that's why only Orange in the UK offered it.
All of the US carriers smelled bad news earlier this year; Sprint publicly announced that they were done with webOS. Verizon, TMobile and ATT didn't even bother to make a statement.
As a 15 yr Palm fanatic, it's a sad end to Palm. Wonder what we'll see next from Jeff Hawkins and team? He did lead the design of the first iPad back in 1989, manufactured by Samsung and sold as the GRiDPad.

mourning Touchpad demise
i bought a touchpad 13 days ago from staples. 32gb for $399! it was a steal. I wasn't sure about keeping it or not but the more i read, the more i believed that HP would see this project (webOS) out to success, that they would continue to develop an amazing operating system. but after today's news it was a no brainer not to keep my TP. Luckily Staples offers a 14 day return policy so i returned that sucker post haste! im still pretty peeved though, in those 13 days i really came to love webOS. oh well this is what i get for turning my back on android. any good suggestions for android tablets?

Hp is dropping webos, but it should be possible to get android running on the touchpad via the same methods they got ubuntu running on it. What would be better would be webos on my dinc2 but alas...
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The not so hidden evil of smartphones

This is just a wee rant, but i hope it makes folk think a wee bit
Right now, regardless of your Smartphone faction allegiances, we have a number of great devices, including iPhones, Androids, Windows Phones, and even good old Windows Mobiles, All of them great in their own wee ways
But something curious is happening which may have escaped us in the never ending quest to make us upgrade or buy new devices and that’s the "App store"
Personally, i think this "App" name is kind of annoying but perhaps that’s just my age coming in to it again, it’s also beside the point. Forget the differences in names, we all know what it is and by App store I’m talking about all of them
Anyhow, these app stores have a lot to answer for, some of us spend a fortune on them, all those "cheap" programs you’ve downloaded over the past years, many of which you may have even forgot you own maybe nibbled away at your pay cheque. So what happens when one day the unthinkable happens, your fan boy world is rocked too its feet when the satanic Enemy you have despised all these years actually takes your fancy, an after a bit of thinking, sleeping with the devil for that thing doesn’t sound too bad a deal at all, after all, this device IS better, its OS is better, it suites your needs more an damn it, it just looks cool too.
But here lies your problem, you have been chained to an app store for a while now, you’ve picked up many apps an maybe even some STDs, its cost you lots of money and you can bet your life that you cant transfer your apps to this "other" OS, So you have a choice, do you stay with the older phone knowing for well that the phone of your dreams is but a stone throw away or do you say, to hell with my old apps, give it to me now!!
Of course everyone is different, but to ignore the fact that nothing lasts forever and assume that your OS will always be the best would be naive, remember, these companies all have a vested interest in keeping you with them, and getting you on the app store of THEIR choice is one very good way of doing it,
Of Course none of this is new, Windows Mobile was similar but we didnt have choice then, now we do, Hopefully it might make you think twice before shelling out for junk you don’t need, your device might be the best now, but it won’t always be.

Ummm, Here's the best part about me...
I've only bought apps when that 10 cents sale was going on, and only spent $1.80 USD.
Being cheap rules...

Is this post about switching OS's or phones? I'm confused.

True, but it dont think thats always the case, my 6 year old kid managed to blow about a tenner within only a few min, buying cheap helps but if we take google as an example, they dont sell android, they make shed loads of money on advertising and you buying stuff, its in all of their interests to keep you buying programs on their app stores, the more you buy the less likely you are to leave them
They are all EVIL i tell you
^that was a joke

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Is this post about switching OS's or phones? I'm confused.
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OSs, you wouldnt have a problem with your apps if you stayed on the same OS, at least one would hope not, point taken tho, couple of wee changes added

i have a literal butt-load of apps for my iphone i have no hope of ever being able to use again. i had my phone stolen during that dark time when the iphone was not available to buy on pay as you go (dark dark times...), and so had to switch to a different smartphone os. at the time it was a htc desire, and i just never looked back, really. partly because i look at iphones and just think "hmm... nothing much's changed. same old same old..."
in an ideal world i'd be able to run my android apps on my windows phone, and have the best of both worlds - but that isn't going to happen any time soon. the best compromise i can see is "buy for one platform, buy for all" - why should i have to re-buy my apps for a different platform? why can't i buy one and be able to download the same version available for different platforms? steam does it with some pc games - including a mac version for free with your purchase. hell, there are even ways to run one os on another kind of machine, so you're not truly "tied" into something like with phones.
/end rant

dazza9075 said:
OSs, you wouldnt have a problem with your apps if you stayed on the same OS, at least one would hope not, point taken tho, couple of wee changes added
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Haha, thanks, that was actually my original comment. Then I thought about it and reread the post and assumed you were talking about the OS and not just the phone...hence the reason for the edit!

Welcome to the wonderful world of vendor lock-in.

I still don't understand why so many of you are so desperate for these website bookmarks with GUIs aka most apps out there. Or, there are 20 task managers, they still do they SAME exact thing as the stock one; there's nothing wrong with the stock one; so, why the heck would you even want an alternate one?
What happened to the days where, if you just had mobile internet access, that in itself was an extreme convenience and everyone had the patience to access every other site via browser?
What about battery life? Do you REALLY need to have 20 email and social network apps and widgets update every 10 minutes? Not really. If its something very important, I'm sure the party who needs to reach you can text or call you.
All of that said, I personally prefer the "older" solutions to this smartphone problem such as Nokia and their Symbian os. Bare, simple, but never fails, doesn't eat battery like 5 starving children, and you don't really have to worry about keeping up with these apps or too many updates. Oh, did I mention FREE gps with FREE downloadable maps, that doesn't even require data connection to be used?

dazza9075 said:
This is just a wee rant, but i hope it makes folk think a wee bit
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Ive always been wary of this as well. Its part of the reason I get the phones I do, At least there should be enough concepts, designs and hardware variations using my O/S to keep me happy. Also even though I have many programmes now I try not to get too trigger happy in the market.

Honestly, I pirated like crazy on android, it was too easy. The upgrade to wp7 was painless.

That's why I always think twice about buying an app. So far I've spent only about $15 on android, another $15 on iOS, and $9 on webos. I have friends who have spent hundreds on iOS. It's impossible to honestly recommend anything other than the iPhone to them.
I did pirate two apps though. The MLB app which they tried to sell for $15 on top of the subscription fees. If I'm already paying them $20 a month, it's unreasonable to tack on an extra $15. The other is the logmein app which was originally $30, but they have dropped the price to free. I would have never bought either one if I had to pay full price so it's not like they lost a sale.

I have never spent a dime on an app for any platform. I used an iphone for about 2 years and switched to Android about a year ago. I honestly don't worry about it. I can find free apps that do everything I want to do. I guess that might come from the fact that i am a Linux user as well. I have been trained to find something that works.
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bleach168 said:
I did pirate two apps though. The MLB app which they tried to sell for $15 on top of the subscription fees. If I'm already paying them $20 a month, it's unreasonable to tack on an extra $15. The other is the logmein app which was originally $30, but they have dropped the price to free. I would have never bought either one if I had to pay full price so it's not like they lost a sale.
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That's the thing about pirating that I don't think content owners understand. The movie and recording industry claim multi billion dolor losses due to piracy but in reality the people that pirated it had absolutely no intention of buying it in the first place and would not have whether the pirated copy existed or not. So basically they lost no money but have that may more people talking about how good it is. To me that sounds like marketing, not piracy.

"Piracy" isn't in the topic title people...

Wiggy Fuzz said:
in an ideal world i'd be able to run my android apps on my windows phone, and have the best of both worlds - but that isn't going to happen any time soon. the best compromise i can see is "buy for one platform, buy for all" - why should i have to re-buy my apps for a different platform? why can't i buy one and be able to download the same version available for different platforms? steam does it with some pc games - including a mac version for free with your purchase. hell, there are even ways to run one os on another kind of machine, so you're not truly "tied" into something like with phones.
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It is unfortunate, but the reality is this will never change. If you tied the big 4 together effectively their revenue would be a lot less, in the case of apple and google anyway, and to be fair, programs from one market wont work on another markets devices, there has to be some work involved todo that so who gets paid for it.
Steam isnt a good compare, as its only 1 vendor, for it to be equal to phones you would need a situation similar to steam selling a game that origin also sells, why should you buy it twice?
In an ideal world you would have a new company that acted like a app store, hosting multiple platforms, of course the big 4 wouldnt like that as it wouldnt tie you to them and they would lose revenue
as far as i can tell, unless you dont mind wasting money, the best solution is to simply not buy anything.
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What happened to the days where, if you just had mobile internet access, that in itself was an extreme convenience and everyone had the patience to access every other site via browser?
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Completely agree, im not going to get in to a which OS is best debate but thats the sole reason for the OS i use, without downloading any extra it does everything i want out of the box, its a phone with extras, ie, a smartphone
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"Piracy" isn't in the topic title people...
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it may not be on topic but it is an intersting side effect of the problem
If we role back the clock a few years well before the smartphone era, we have Windows Mobile, i bought a lot of programs for that OS an i still love it
But when i did eventually change i didnt mind buying new programs, after all, the developers had long since stopped developing, newer versions where only available on newer OSs, if they were available at all!
But here lies one part of the problem, now your not tied to older versions of your programs if you stay on any given market, all markets have the same program all be it coded differently so can you really steal something that you have already bought, or is it more likle that you are not buy buying anything,
what exactly are you "buying" when you hit the app stores? The program? the right to "use" a program, the right to use a program on one OS?

kind of a double post

I have over $200 worth of iOS apps that I have no device for. I'm actually considering getting an iPod Touch for a PMP and because I have so many iOS Apps. I'm pretty much waiting for the iPod Touch that has the iPhone 4/4s design but that's another story.

8mileroad said:
I have over $200 worth of iOS apps that I have no device for. I'm actually considering getting an iPod Touch for a PMP and because I have so many iOS Apps. I'm pretty much waiting for the iPod Touch that has the iPhone 4/4s design but that's another story.
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81 bucks in apps on windows phone 7. It doesn't matter, the second someone releases an OS that can compare, I'll jump ship.

vdub12 said:
That's the thing about pirating that I don't think content owners understand. The movie and recording industry claim multi billion dolor losses due to piracy but in reality the people that pirated it had absolutely no intention of buying it in the first place and would not have whether the pirated copy existed or not. So basically they lost no money but have that may more people talking about how good it is. To me that sounds like marketing, not piracy.
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indeed their stuck in the past, the whole system is broken, if people were being rational, they would allow a universal app store, prices would increase and fees would be paid to the various OS makes for using their systems, the customer would end up paying a small amount more per app to fund the additional third party but everything else remains the same only you would have access to all markets that the software makers designed for
z33dev33l said:
81 bucks in apps on windows phone 7. It doesn't matter, the second someone releases an OS that can compare, I'll jump ship.
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then its nice to have disposible income but when that day comes an it might be awhile away, if youve spent a lot more i wonder if you'll think the same then, if it were me, and someone told me id have to take a £100 note out of my pocket and burn it to move devices, at the very least, id be a bit cheesed off!

dazza9075 said:
indeed their stuck in the past, the whole system is broken, if people were being rational, they would allow a universal app store, prices would increase and fees would be paid to the various OS makes for using their systems, the customer would end up paying a small amount more per app to fund the additional third party but everything else remains the same only you would have access to all markets that the software makers designed for
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Which completely eliminates brand loyalty, I hear often that people only stick to android/iOS when they try my lumia because they'd have to buy all their apps again.