so guys im running a tmobile g2x with weapon 3.0 travel to mexico frequently and have my phone unlocked to put a telcel sim in my phone so I dont get crazy charges but my data speeds seem to be snail like ... doing the research I found out that my g2x supports telcels 3g bandwidth so blind guessing id imagine there has to be something i can do to get my phone to be on there 3 g service when I travel..??? pleaseeee help!!!! thanks
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so guys im running a tmobile g2x with weapon 3.0 travel to mexico frequently and have my phone unlocked to put a telcel sim in my phone so I dont get crazy charges but my data speeds seem to be snail like ... doing the research I found out that my g2x supports telcels 3g bandwidth so blind guessing id imagine there has to be something i can do to get my phone to be on there 3 g service when I travel..??? pleaseeee help!!!! thanks
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Holy run on sentence batman
What research did you do? G2x has bands I and IV. Telcel uses II and V.
Not the best with grammer I looked up the frequencies I believe it was both 1700?
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Not the best with grammer I looked up the frequencies I believe it was both 1700?
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Where'd you find that? Telcel's website says otherwise.
so the tmo part is easy i went to tmo then i searched but couldnt find anything directly from telcel but i did find this site and a few others that all matched i cant put a link cause im a new guy but its gsmworld
im definetly a noob but it seems the numbers line up that telcel uses 850/1900/2100 and the g2x supports them the band I and IV i dont know much about. Just thought if the numbers matched id be gtg!!! hopefully i can get some luvin and somebody can fix me up and not tell me im a fool!!
wdm31911 said:
so the tmo part is easy i went to tmo then i searched but couldnt find anything directly from telcel but i did find this site and a few others that all matched i cant put a link cause im a new guy but its gsmworld
im definetly a noob but it seems the numbers line up that telcel uses 850/1900/2100 and the g2x supports them the band I and IV i dont know much about. Just thought if the numbers matched id be gtg!!! hopefully i can get some luvin and somebody can fix me up and not tell me im a fool!!
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From Telcel's website: "TELCEL's network is 1900 Mhz for GSM and 850 Mhz for 3G"
850Mhz UMTS (band V) is not supported for the g2x. In short, you're stuck on edge with that phone.
I have some choice words for that setup bit don't think.xda would approve!! I'm still slightly confused with the diiference on the bands and bandwidths they should.make the numbers not the same so a following like me can understand easier! well thank you vet much for your help
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hello
-- i new buy lg g2x . and unlocked it because i use at&t . everything good
but i turn on 3g for at&t it;s not work . gsm only ok but CDMA (3g) not work
-- ios 2.2.2 orignal ::
-- pl help me turnon 3g . i need 3g please
use *#*#4636#*#* go to phone info then change the network to WcDMA preferred.
The G2x doesn't have ATT 3G bands on board. You'll only ever get 2G.
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The G2x doesn't have ATT 3G bands on board. You'll only ever get 2G.
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this^^
Sounds like you got rickrolled into purchasing a phone. Lawl.
No 3G. Baseband chip only supports 3G on 1700 and 2100. AT&T uses 850 and 1900 so it will never get 3G on AT&T unless the TMO merger goes through (highly unlikely) and they keep the TMO frequencies (again highly unlikely).
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Sounds like you got rickrolled into purchasing a phone. Lawl.
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I shalt at no moment bestow thee skyward.
I shalt at no moment release thee toward the earth.
I shalt at no moment, exercise mine body and leaveth thee behind.
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The only phones that support AT&T and T-Mobile bands is high end NOKIA devices
N8, E7, E6
Its Symbian and sad to say, it's not in the same league as Android.
And trust me, I'm even looking for AT&T phones only to have options for any type of GSM carrier. Mostly because of pre-paid devices use AT&T or T-mobile bands
Its not a total loss. You could get Simple Mobile No contract plans. You'll get 4G. Its not AT&T but its only way you'll get high speed on the G2X.
And if you are on AT&T contract, you did get suckered into buying a phone. Live and learn I say.
You could always sell it to somebody else.
iOS Version 2.2.2? lolwut?
I have the same problem but i use videotron. I dont have a data or 3g
Connection. What i need to do to activate and use internet ... i new with the phone ... thanks to help.
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final ==> lg g2x t-mobile unlocked never use 3g for at&t right ? or up rom 2.3 we use 3g for at&t ? or if the other way . pl show me .... thanks all
- the phone for me right now 2.2.2 orignal . i want up 2.3 but i don't know . can u show me ?
- lg g2x have 2 camera . but i use video call on skype it not work ?
-if i use lg g2x for t-mobile unlocked not connection 3g for at&t .. so i want know i have charge money data plane for at&t ( $15/1 month ) simcard for me not contract 2 year at&t ..
-- pl help me thanks all
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iOS Version 2.2.2? lolwut?
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lol this! My same thought!
duongtiensanjose said:
final ==> lg g2x t-mobile unlocked never use 3g for at&t right ? or up rom 2.3 we use 3g for at&t ? or if the other way . pl show me .... thanks all
- the phone for me right now 2.2.2 orignal . i want up 2.3 but i don't know . can u show me ?
- lg g2x have 2 camera . but i use video call on skype it not work ?
-if i use lg g2x for t-mobile unlocked not connection 3g for at&t .. so i want know i have charge money data plane for at&t ( $15/1 month ) simcard for me not contract 2 year at&t ..
-- pl help me thanks all
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wat...
10char
WTF!?!?! this must be a joke. Where's Ashton at? Damn trolls
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duongtiensanjose said:
. pl me .... thanks all
-- pl me thanks all
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DUDE! I f'n pl'd you last week to level 80 and you still haven't paid me my plat wtf
meh...
Wow, you guys are being mean for no reason...
Obviously English isn't his/her first language...
We don't need all this filth in the thread...
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Wow, you guys are being mean for no reason...
Obviously English isn't his/her first language...
We don't need all this filth in the thread...
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Yeah it's a bit much, but they're still begging for help when they've already been answered with the only answer possible:
You cannot use 3G on the T-Mobile G2x on AT&T. No software could possibly solve this. It is a physical limitation in the hardware modem. It might be somehow possible to rip the current modem out and solder a new one in and redo the base hardware drivers etc etc but that would be far more trouble than it is worth.
So, you can't use 3G on the T-Mobile G2x on AT&T. Period. Fin. End of story. Close thread please..
Could someone help with my phone problem? I have wifi data connection but no 3g connection. I'm with a provider like t mobile ... videotron... same bandwidth ... but I never see any 3g icons or something else... how to configure that?
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rxtemp2000 said:
Could someone help with my phone problem? I have wifi data connection but no 3g connection. I'm with a provider like t mobile ... videotron... same bandwidth ... but I never see any 3g icons or something else... how to configure that?
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Go into your settings, wireless & networks, mobile networks, access point names and set up a new apn for Videotron. Don't as her for the information to enter. Google for it. You should set up one for internet and one for mms.
hey everyone has anyone try the SGS PRO UNLOCK? i sued yesterday and it seems that works y put an at&t sim card and did it work. But my question is if i send my phone unlocked to othe country and they try to use it with one carrier in the place it will work or it will not? to be specific im trying to send it to El Salvador and the carrier that it will be used its tigo. i already have jailbrake iphones and unlock them and send them to there and they work but for this device is my first time just wonder to know if someonw have an awnswer about this thanks for the time guys
Ha, another Salvi! It should work fine on GSM networks, but to get 4G you might run into trouble. I'd look into what frequencies they support.
Do the iPhones get 3G over there?
Ha, another Salvi! It should work fine on GSM networks, but to get 4G you might run into trouble. I'd look into what frequencies they support.
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hey thanks for the awnser FBi. i think if run GSM is good enough...
Ohh about the iphone my sister just went to el salvador yesterday and she said that she gets everything good but tigo has release a micro sim that you need to put under the sim car so that way you get 3g she havent try tho but ill tell her to try and if works i let you know thank for your time
FBis251 said:
Ha, another Salvi! It should work fine on GSM networks, but to get 4G you might run into trouble. I'd look into what frequencies they support.
Do the iPhones get 3G over there?
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They are lucky if the iPhone gets signal at all.......... lol.
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They are lucky if the iPhone gets signal at all.......... lol.
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Nah El Salvador's GSM network is pretty prolific. I was a little surprised actually.
Hey I was just wondering if it was possible to unlock a Skyrocket then flash a Tmobile radio and receive H+ data speeds. How would I go about doing it? Which radio would you suggest? Thanks.
Nobody? Theretically it could be done but I just want someone to confirm for me.
After unlocking phone someone tried running t-mobile sim and he said only edge but he did not flash t989 radio so idk. If i can unlock it for free i will try it and let you know.
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Nobody? Theretically it could be done but I just want someone to confirm for me.
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After unlocking phone someone tried running t-mobile sim and he said only edge but he did not flash t989 radio so idk. If i can unlock it for free i will try it and let you know.
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I have an opportunity to get my hands on one of these phones very soon. I have a HTC HD2 on T-mobile's network. If it is not a bother, could you verify this? I wouldn'' want to be responsible for you bricking your phone, but I would be most appreciative for the information on it's possibilty if you know what you are doing.
It is unlocked.
What do you need me to verify?? I m confused !
Because you can run t**** on i727 with edge network plus you can flash t989 radios on i727 i done that before but not with t**** sim card.
Dimopolous said:
I have an opportunity to get my hands on one of these phones very soon. I have a HTC HD2 on T-mobile's network. If it is not a bother, could you verify this? I wouldn'' want to be responsible for you bricking your phone, but I would be most appreciative for the information on it's possibilty if you know what you are doing.
It is unlocked.
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its not possible because t-mobile radios for skyrocket dont exist, so you can't flash an other radio for tmobile as it wont work and you migh just end up screwing your phone. tmobile sucks man, change to anything else.......if you like good hardware that it
Yes they exist what you talking about!! YOu can flash them. Here you can dload and flash it through cwm.
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its not possible because t-mobile radios for skyrocket dont exist, so you can't flash an other radio for tmobile as it wont work and you migh just end up screwing your phone. tmobile sucks man, change to anything else.......if you like good hardware that it
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looked for them, just found ATT and Rogers...and Japanese ones but i heared they dont work well at all
Well Da_G and irc team tried it so it works. IDK how it will work with tmobile sim because no one had tired it yet.
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looked for them, just found ATT and Rogers...and Japanese ones but i heared they dont work well at all
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HSPA+ will not work with the Skyrocket no matter if a radio exists or not. The simple reason is that supported H+ frequencies are 1700 for download and 2100mhz for upload and skyrocket only goes 1900mhz and 2100mhz. So unless you are able to enable the 1700mhz frequency, 4G or 3G will not work with the skyrocket! Edge is the only frequency that will
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HSPA+ will not work with the Skyrocket no matter if a radio exists or not. The simple reason is that supported H+ frequencies are 1700 for download and 2100mhz for upload and skyrocket only goes 1900mhz and 2100mhz. So unless you are able to enable the 1700mhz frequency, 4G or 3G will not work with the skyrocket! Edge is the only frequency that will
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Its already been proven that the SR has the 1700/2100 bands, just not enabled in software. Its why we can flash their modems and it works perfectly fine.
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Thank you! I don't get the reason why new ppl don't listen!! Its like look son trying to argue with his dad who has twice experience!! Noob should just listen rather than arguing. No personal offense but i had so many ppl with the issue like this.
By the way our irc is long dead. Hav you seen da_g or tpc there at all??
Longcat14 said:
Its already been proven that the SR has the 1700/2100 bands, just not enabled in software. Its why we can flash their modems and it works perfectly fine.
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I'll be travelling to the states next week and will flash either the Telus or Tmobile radio to use Tmobile's prepaid plans. If no one's replied back to you by then, I'll let you know what I find.
However, there are already reported success of people with SR and the Telus radio using the phone on Canada's 1700 AWS network (Wind).. so pretty sure it'll work. Flashing the radio is safe as well, I've already done it once.
Well make sure you do nandroid before flashing that t989 radio. Plus he wants to know how it will run with tmobile sim card and t989 radio on unlocked phone.
tom0927 said:
I'll be travelling to the states next week and will flash either the Telus or Tmobile radio to use Tmobile's prepaid plans. If no one's replied back to you by then, I'll let you know what I find.
However, there are already reported success of people with SR and the Telus radio using the phone on Canada's 1700 AWS network (Wind).. so pretty sure it'll work. Flashing the radio is safe as well, I've already done it once.
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worked for me using a wind mobile sim and tmobile radio (same bands) only wind's network isn't the fastest to say the least.
appdroid said:
Well make sure you do nandroid before flashing that t989 radio. Plus he wants to know how it will run with tmobile sim card and t989 radio on unlocked phone.
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Yep, I'll definitely make a nandroid backup before flashing.. and try both the Tmobile and Telus to see which one is better.
tom0927 said:
Yep, I'll definitely make a nandroid backup before flashing.. and try both the Tmobile and Telus to see which one is better.
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Thanks I appreciate it
OK, I'm in Orlando now and got the T-Mobile prepaid plan...I flashed the T-Mobile vk1 radio and for some reason, I can't connect to any data. I wasn't even able to go into the mobile network settings screen to see the apn settings. Got a msg to insert a sim card to access services...
I then flashed the telus radio and got 3g right away. Speeds are pretty pathetic tho...only 2m down...maybe I'm just too spoiled by lte
Anyways, it's been a long tiring day so I won't do anymore testing right now..maybe tmr I'll try the other kl1 T-Mobile radio.
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tom0927 said:
OK, I'm in Orlando now and got the T-Mobile prepaid plan...I flashed the T-Mobile vk1 radio and for some reason, I can't connect to any data. I wasn't even able to go into the mobile network settings screen to see the apn settings. Got a msg to insert a sim card to access services...
I then flashed the telus radio and got 3g right away. Speeds are pretty pathetic tho...only 2m down...maybe I'm just too spoiled by lte
Anyways, it's been a long tiring day so I won't do anymore testing right now..maybe tmr I'll try the other kl1 T-Mobile radio.
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Thank you sir. This is what I feared-hopefully the other radio serves you better.
So no update on how the radio worked?
Hi, Guy actually i purchased HTC inspire 4g from someone it was rooted and have gingerbread 2.3.5 but the thing is HSDPA isnt working only G (GPRS) and E (EDGE) connections are working i downloaded update from HTC website the update was available 2.3.3 i also installed and checked in that rom same thing E connection not showing H+ (HSDPA) what should i do now please guyss help me out i still try to solve that since 2 weeks i also researched on this matter at xda developers and i saw that some guys are saying that all HTC inspire 4g are HSDPA and HSUPA locked you have to unlock that i dont know how to do that and i dont know how many persent (%) this news is correct but i really need help please help me out guyssss.
i saw this news but the link isnt working which is highlighted to red color (I use this method one)
Originally Posted by d4redevil
I got my HTC fully working with the links provided below.
All HTC Inspire stock phones come with HSPA LOCK, you must unlock HSPA
starting with these steps:
Follow these steps.
1.
*ROOTED
*ENG SOFF
(I use this method, and works perfect: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406)
*I use Radio- 26.06.04.06_M, share
(link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...877295&page=50)
*HSPA UNLOCKED
(get stock/rooted/hspa unlock rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965634) flash it
and update it, then.
*and i use Cm 7.2 ROM
*Once you have that, LOCK YOUR DEVICE TO ALL NEW WCDMA/HSPA TOWERS ONLY!
*Also connects to edge, etc.etc. if your not hspa/wcdma area.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the dailer.
Select Phone Information.
Scroll down to "Set Preferred Network Type".
Select WCDMA Only. and hit home and reboot,
works, its easy and u your inspire is SICK!
thanks to xda, and cyanogen mod again!
I hope this helps
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Hi, Guy actually i purchased HTC inspire 4g from someone it was rooted and have gingerbread 2.3.5 but the thing is HSDPA isnt working only G (GPRS) and E (EDGE) connections are working i downloaded update from HTC website the update was available 2.3.3 i also installed and checked in that rom same thing E connection not showing H+ (HSDPA) what should i do now please guyss help me out i still try to solve that since 2 weeks i also researched on this matter at xda developers and i saw that some guys are saying that all HTC inspire 4g are HSDPA and HSUPA locked you have to unlock that i dont know how to do that and i dont know how many persent (%) this news is correct but i really need help please help me out guyssss.
i saw this news but the link isnt working which is highlighted to red color (I use this method one)
Originally Posted by d4redevil
I got my HTC fully working with the links provided below.
All HTC Inspire stock phones come with HSPA LOCK, you must unlock HSPA
starting with these steps:
Follow these steps.
1.
*ROOTED
*ENG SOFF
(I use this method, and works perfect: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406)
*I use Radio- 26.06.04.06_M, share
(link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...877295&page=50)
*HSPA UNLOCKED
(get stock/rooted/hspa unlock rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965634) flash it
and update it, then.
*and i use Cm 7.2 ROM
*Once you have that, LOCK YOUR DEVICE TO ALL NEW WCDMA/HSPA TOWERS ONLY!
*Also connects to edge, etc.etc. if your not hspa/wcdma area.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the dailer.
Select Phone Information.
Scroll down to "Set Preferred Network Type".
Select WCDMA Only. and hit home and reboot,
works, its easy and u your inspire is SICK!
thanks to xda, and cyanogen mod again!
I hope this helps
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This only works if you are on ATT if you are on another carrier all you will get is Edge.
Sounds like you have t-mobile service! Who is your service provider?
ai6908 said:
Sounds like you have t-mobile service! Who is your service provider?
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Wholly hell where did you come from lmao
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ai6908 said:
Sounds like you have t-mobile service! Who is your service provider?
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Am in srilanka now am using dialog GSM connection
shawn87 said:
Am in srilanka now am using dialog GSM connection
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Your issue is that your carrier uses a different 3g band. The Max you will get is edge
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zelendel said:
This only works if you are on ATT if you are on another carrier all you will get is Edge.
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Really? then dude how can i get H+ Speed in other countries like SRILANKA
i used other HTC's Model all are working perfectly (like incredible droid verizon, HTC evo design 4g sprint etc...
any solution???
shawn87 said:
Really? then dude how can i get H+ Speed in other countries like SRILANKA
i used other HTC's Model all are working perfectly (like incredible droid verizon, HTC evo design 4g sprint etc...
any solution???
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You have to get a device that uses the same bands. Devices in the US use different bands depending on the carrier. You won't be able to do anything about it on the inspire
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Really? then dude how can i get H+ Speed in other countries like SRILANKA
i used other HTC's Model all are working perfectly (like incredible droid verizon, HTC evo design 4g sprint etc...
any solution???
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Do you realize there is a huge difference between CDMA and GSM right. In the us they all use different 3g bands.
You should always research your device before you by it. Mainly if buying a device from another county
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zelendel said:
Do you realize there is a huge difference between CDMA and GSM right. In the us they all use different 3g bands.
You should always research your device before you by it. Mainly if buying a device from another county
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Yep, now i understood thanks guys n specially to zelendel:good: he replied me 3 times
i really like to use HTC devices specially american devices carrier like T-mobile, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T. Guys i have a question i want to know which device carrier is the best n which 3g band can normally use in asian? is there any thing throught that i can check like IMEI number or any code throught that i can check?
shawn87 said:
Yep, now i understood thanks guys n specially to zelendel:good: he replied me 3 times
i really like to use HTC devices specially american devices carrier like T-mobile, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T. Guys i have a question i want to know which device carrier is the best n which 3g band can normally use in asian? is there any thing throught that i can check like IMEI number or any code throught that i can check?
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The best thing to do is find out what bands your carrier uses. Then compare it to the ones for a phone you like. If att doesn't work then T-Mobile maybe a better option as they use the Euro bands where ATT doesnt
Sent for a corner cell in Arkhum
Your best bet is to use probably a t-mobile phone from US or phones from SE asia and europe for indian subcontinent countries. AT&T based 3G phones will probably wont work there...but again like zelendel said, check it out with your service provider first...
@ zelendel! finally coming out of WM shell brotha!!
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Your best bet is to use probably a t-mobile phone from US or phones from SE asia and europe for indian subcontinent countries. AT&T based 3G phones will probably wont work there...but again like zelendel said, check it out with your service provider first...
@ zelendel! finally coming out of WM shell brotha!!
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welcome man. If there is anything you need feel free to hit me up. I am no dev but if you click on the gotham link you will see I am still up to my old tricks lmao
Hey guys,
So im from a ****ty country ( Lebanon ) and today I decided to upgrade my phone from 3G to 4G LTE..
I was shocked to go to my provider and once I took the new sim card they told me that the D820 is not compatible with their network and currently only D821 are supported.
If I knew that earlier ofc I would've bought the D821 version but I guess its too late now..
Anyway my question is:
Can anyone help me with this issue and maybe a way to convert D820 to D821 or a way to fix this issue.. coz literally 3G SUCKS !!
all help appreciated..
mrelie007 said:
Hey guys,
So im from a ****ty country ( Lebanon ) and today I decided to upgrade my phone from 3G to 4G LTE..
I was shocked to go to my provider and once I took the new sim card they told me that the D820 is not compatible with their network and currently only D821 are supported.
If I knew that earlier ofc I would've bought the D821 version but I guess its too late now..
Anyway my question is:
Can anyone help me with this issue and maybe a way to convert D820 to D821 or a way to fix this issue.. coz literally 3G SUCKS !!
all help appreciated..
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Well i think its not possible because the change can't be done with any soft-mod and two variants use different hardware chips for LTE connectivity..!
Sell the D820 and get D821, else live with 3g. U still get HSPA+
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jacklyc said:
Sell the D820 and get D821, else live with 3g. U still get HSPA+
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its actually obvious ur thank meter is 1
its self explanatory seein ur dumb replies ...
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its actually obvious ur thank meter is 1
its self explanatory seein ur dumb replies ...
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Why is that a dumb reply? You won't get LTE in Leb with the 820 as it doesn't have the proper bands. So if you want LTE you'll need the 821. Simple as that.