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Please please forgive the newb question, but once the bootloader is officially unlocked by HTC's method (basically entering a token you pull from your phone, and then flashing a .bin file they send you based on that token), is it reversible? I.E. is it possible to re-lock it back to factory status? I'm assuming not, but can't find any hard evidence one way or the other...
Apparently someone has said you can re-lock it but I've not used it. Better using Revolutionary IMO
Well you can do a "simple" re-lock just to ensure noone else can make changes to it with "fastboot oem lock" - but it's not the factory lock. The bootloader simply says "re-locked" instead of "unlocked", or compared to the factory "locked".
But I was thinking in terms of reverting it truly back to factory status. Again, I don't think it's possible (without HTC's intervention anyway), given the nature of how it was locked, but need someone smarter than me to confirm that suspicion.
So basically, using Super CID, you can run the RUU.exe from the bootloader only, and get your phone back to 100% stock, but it'll still be unlocked. So I'm guessing there is no way to reverse HTC's unlock process.
jntdroid said:
So basically, using Super CID, you can run the RUU.exe from the bootloader only, and get your phone back to 100% stock, but it'll still be unlocked. So I'm guessing there is no way to reverse HTC's unlock process.
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I flashed the android revolution rom with my device unlocked through htc website, I cannot flash back to stock, I tried the RUU to bring me back to 1.27 and 1.29 and error'd on both of those. I am not sure how to get back to stock. I tried several times. I also cannot get my security to turn off in the bootloader after I unlocked through htc. Has anyone figured out how to do this? I tried the revoltionary.io tool and successfully used the tool only to reboot and see the S-ON in bootloader mode. CRAZY I suggest for anyone to turn their S-OFF using revolutionary.io before they ever attempt to unlock the bootloader through htc. What I am experiencing is error under the wifi switch I cannot seem to get wifi working with any of the roms, probably due to the kernel or not having s-off in bootloader. I tried different and stock kernels only to have the same problem.
Read this if you want more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290395
Has ANYBODY tried the goldcard method to reflash to stock? Take the rom.zip from RUU and flash in bootloader
So ive gone back to stock htc orange ROM with the CID ORANG001 and i am now also S-On after being on ARHD, after probelms with the phone in case i need to send it back, so by the looks of what you are saying I am not actually back to factory status? So will HTC be able to tell in the case that i have to send it back fro repair or whatever? If so i also need to know how to re lock and get back to complete factory status!?
EDIT: im pretty sure bootloader was already available on the phone, and my firends incredible s, he is able to access bootloader without doing anything to his phone
Gold card doesn't work, otherwise we could've used it before S-OFF
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So ive gone back to stock htc tmobile ROM with the CID ORANG001 and i am now also S-On after being on ARHD, after probelms with the phone in case i need to send it back, so by the looks of what you are saying I am not actually back to factory status? So will HTC be able to tell in the case that i have to send it back fro repair or whatever? If so i also need to know how to re lock and get back to complete factory status!?
EDIT: im pretty sure bootloader was already available on the phone, and my firends incredible s, he is able to access bootloader without doing anything to his phone
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Where is this CID ORANG001 you are referring to? Do you have a link? And as far as I know you can unlock the bootloader but there is currently no true relock.
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Where is this CID ORANG001 you are referring to? Do you have a link? And as far as I know you can unlock the bootloader but there is currently no true relock.
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Hi, list of CIDs for each ROM..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195475
Hi, I think I have bricked my phone, it's a Sensation XE btw. I wanted to go back to stock S-ON and get the ICS OTA update so I ran "RUU_Pyramid_LE_HTC_Europe_1.73.401.4_Radio_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2_release_220036_signed". I went well and I was back on GB and entered the command for S-ON in cmd. Then I downloaded the OTA and installed it. Now the phone won't turn on, it just goes in boot loops just displaying the HTC splash screen then rebooting again. I can't enter recovery from bootloader and I can't do a factory reset, it just goes into a bootloop. So, what can I do to get it up and running again?
Have tried this guide, but I can't get passed the point where you are supposed to flash a rom from recovery since I can't get into it. I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed 4ext touch recovery but still can't boot to it.
Info:
HTC Sensation XE
Pyramid PVT Ship S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.22.3504.07_M
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Y did u go back to s-on? U can take an ota and keep ur s-off. Have u tried to just get the 3.32 firmware update and put it on ur sdcard, go into bootloader and let it update the firmware, since u did the ics update?
I need to send it in to reperation. I will try to do that, but I will need to adb push it right? Since I can't mount the SD-card. I can see if I find a docking station for the SD-card tho.
Thanks btw
Edit: placed the firmware on sd card, will boot up now. crossing my fingers!
Hopefully that should work!
Nope, it says "Loading PG58IMG.zip!", then it says "Parsing.... PG58IMG.zip". Afterwards it just stays in bootloader. Do I need to have the bootloader locked for this to work?
Probably, what is ur hboot version
1.27.0000
10char
That's the correct one, have u tried the regular ruu for that ics?
Didn't find any, could you please link me?
There isn't an RUU for the new 3.32.401.105 ICS build (yet)
Try a factory reset of the unit
yeah it's all been ota so far. if u got anything eddy i don't man
@EddyOS: as mentioned in OP, I can't do a factory reset. I can't enter recovery and when i do it from bootloader it just bootloops.
And how long do you think it takes to make a RUU for my bootloader? How long does it usually take?
Man I have know idea, but if all u did is take an ota and ur phone crapped out then I would be getting my carrier or something to fix it.
yeah, that is a possibility, but my bootloader is unlocked. That may be a problem.
You can't 'make' an RUU. If you're S-OFF you can flash the old 1.73.401.4 from fastboot but. If you're S-ON you're kinda screwed
Relock it and tell them u took the ota and this is what happened. Most carriers don't look at ur bootloader and if by chance they do, tell them u were trying to fix the problem cause u need ur phone. Do u have insurance?
So the only hope for me is to either send it in to HTC or wait for a 1.27 RUU?
Or ur cell company. That's y I have insurance on my phone. Look for kingsrom in development section and ask him what he did cause he flashed something wrong and since the phone has a 1 yr warranty on it, he got his replaced. Sorry I couldn't be of more help man.
Ok, no problem, just glad you could help as much as you could.
One last question, is there any way to lock the bootloader again without it saying "RELOCKED". Just talked to a HTC representative who said that the workshop could get suspicious regarding the error I have and the bootloader beeing unlocked and relocked.
Hi ,
Wanting to get rid of 3 uk junk and flash to normal UK RUU
Do we need super CID?
My bootloader is unlocked , can't download the RUU from from the Dev section as all the slots are gone , or when it seems to work it errors out .
Has anyone got the latest UK RUU file they can share with me and can someone confirm if I need Super CID to run RUU to unbrand
Thanks in Advance
Just flash Modaco or the Virtuous roms through recovery, these are unbranded and really good.
You will need to flash a Recovery image first though.
Hi and thanks
Yes , I understand this but I want to just unbrand through RUU then re-lock my bootloader.
Do we need Super CID ?
Ok can someone remind me if I need S-Off to change the CID , playing around with ADB at the moment
If Im honest mate, no idea what you mean by CID...
But if you want a new rom, all that needs to be done is unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash rom.
Thats all anyone has done in the dev threads, and worked fine for me (coming from a retail, unbranded unit).
You can 'lock' the bootloader again, BUT it never goes back to its true original state. This is as HTC designed their unlocking/locking process to be (and is stated in their terms when you go to their site to unlock).
Edit: OK, just read up on it. Possibly then! Depends how annoying 3 are I suppose... Probably best to ask one of the devs
Edit 2: CHeck the following, may be of help (though its for the One X)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594262
http://android.modaco.com/topic/353106-debrand-one-x/
Edit 3: If you're applying a flashable zip, does the CID limitiation on RUUs even come into play?
Hi thanks ,
Yea what I want to achieve is this .
My CID is HG3____001 this will need to be changed to a CID that is HTC UK specific usually HTC_____001
To find out your CID in ADB
Fastboot Getvar CID
To get to a retail version from a branded version , what usually needed to happen was this .
Unlock bootloader , change CID to 11111111 via ADB
Run the specific UK RUU.exe
Change your CID to the HTC_____001 which is the usual default for UK unbranded devices .
re-lock your bootloader and then you should receive OTA updates from HTC instead of your network supplier which can take months
I can't remember if S-off was needed to do this. I have just checked revolution site and One s is not listed , will play around tonight though and see
Thanks for the help so far
Hi, I know what CID is - coming from the Sensation.
I dont think its possible to change CID without S-OFF, you cant use advanced ADB functions with S-ON
Until revolutionary or someone else makes tool for S-OFF, we will just have to stick with HTCDev, Its not the best, but it allows to flash recovery and ROMs so its better than nothing.
Im pretty sure there will be some progress in the next few weeks, Once the phone is available worldwide
Ahh ok , thanks , yea this phone is set S- on , so S-off will be needed sooner or later
yeah, as development develops and more rights are needed from the phone, S-0FF will eventually be a MUST.
I wish it was available already, I hate the fact that HTC know i have tampered with my HBOOT and voided my warranty.
Luckily enough, if i have a problem, my provider fixes / repairs the phone, Not HTC, So i might just get off lightly
I think HTC will know if you have tampered with the phone period if they wish to look that far into it .
Unless you fry your processor where you have set it too high etc then shouldn't be a problem. If you have a hardware problem such as your screen fails , battery etc then should be fine .
As you say though , if you brought it through a retail unit then that is where it is returned so in some respects is a bit easier as they will use a third party repairer acting for HTC .
well with the sensation it was possible to return everything back to stock, Including the bootloader and S-ON..
There was no way it could be diagnosed as being tampered with, If you did it properly..
But with HTCDev. youve already submitted a code (which i assume contains serial number) so all they have to do is check whether that device matches anything on their database of tampered devices. Thats why i dislike it so much..
But i need root for most of my apps so there was no workaround for me...
I see on the One X forum S-off is under way . Can't wait to get this baby to true stock.
Just did another Google search for S-Off on the S but nothing as yet .
The ear piece speaker on my One S broke, and I'm sending it into repair. I bought my phone unbranded from Phones 4U. Currently, I have this latest RUU loaded up:
RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5_Radio_1.06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L_release_275655_signed
I believe this RUU is from Three, because it added a load of Three bookmarks to my browser.
In HBOOT, it does say "Relocked", but it doesn't say "Tampered", which I gather is the best you can get after rooting.
Considering the phone should be unbranded, should I try loading the most recent stock HTC RUU? I'm just worried they're going to point that out and refuse to repair :/
id like to know this too as i have an unbranded uk one s and im using the same RUU
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The ear piece speaker on my One S broke, and I'm sending it into repair. I bought my phone unbranded from Phones 4U. Currently, I have this latest RUU loaded up:
RUU_Ville_U_ICS_40_S_HTC_Europe_2.31.401.5_Radio_1.06es.50.02.31_10.09a.50.04L_release_275655_signed
I believe this RUU is from Three, because it added a load of Three bookmarks to my browser.
In HBOOT, it does say "Relocked", but it doesn't say "Tampered", which I gather is the best you can get after rooting.
Considering the phone should be unbranded, should I try loading the most recent stock HTC RUU? I'm just worried they're going to point that out and refuse to repair :/
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I don't think you need to load a new RUU. Your problem is a hardware related so they shouldn't bother about the OS on the phone as it's not related to the problem and the OS is an official HTC one anyway..
When I swapped my HOS there was an unofficial ROM (plus I installed my own and the CID was an Orange one). An O2 guru sent it to a repair centre and they accepted the phone even with the development notice at startup..
Your phone is ok by software but not ok by hardware. I see no reason why to refuse it..
It don't matter, I have sent one of my phones back rooted and unlocked before 2 times for hardware problems,..
when I was on sprint rooted, unlocked, they run the RUU to make sure its not software related, then they repair what needs to be repaired.
I called them back to say why did you upgrade my hboot, they said "they put it back to manufactor default stock rom, sprint, tmobile, att, they run the RUU first on any phone.
I would run an RUU they will charge you if its unlocked as it breaks their warranty. MAKE SURE ITS LOCKED AND STOCK in uk.
Any EU RUU should do the trick ! If it was originally carrier branded and you cannot find RUU for that carrier, Just change CID to HTC__001 and run an unbranded EU RUU.
Relocking the bootloader is a must! It takes 10 seconds so dont take no risks !
Hey guys I need to revert fully to stock including recovery for warranty purpose. How can I achieve this. I see many revert to stock but they are modified..
Well RUU is as close as you can get, but still if technicians in service center have idea what to check, they will know that your bootloader was unlocked, somewhere in s-off thread there was something about hboot saying 'LOCKED'(currently if you lock your bootloader it will say RE-LOCKED), but it also used to keep the phone in hboot screen only, so if you wont check the thread out.