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[Q] Im very new to Android, root, bootloader?

Im very new and just switched over from webOS and have questions but im not sure if this is the right section to post if not sorry and bare with me.
Ok I have the NS4G just updated to 2.3.5. It killed tethering so I want to root to fix that problem.
Question #1... I did a little research before posting and I believe I need to unlock my bootloader then root it with SuperBoot?
Question #2... Is there more than 1 way to root my phone?
Question #3... Once rooted what do I do to actually get the tethering back. Do I download an app after the rooting if so is it in the market?
Question #4... What exactly is CM7 I see that in the forums everywhere. Is it important to have once you root your phone?
and finally #5... Will rooting my phone cause any problems with future updates, what are the pros/cons?
thanks guys I hear the Android community is as great as the webOS community.

1. Yeah, you need to unlock your bootloader to root
2. Yep
I used the standard way with pdanet and adb all that jazz, but now you are seeing more and more 1 click roots, superboot, etc.
3. I have no idea, I have gsm
4. CM7 is a firmware distribution of android, basically a type of custom rom you can install on your phone. A ROM is basically the read only memory, or os installed on ur phone. It's not important to have it, it's an option.
5. No, I don't have any problems with it. Just I think you need to make sure to go back to stock when there is an ota, or u wont get it

mathkid95 said:
5. No, I don't have any problems with it. Just I think you need to make sure to go back to stock when there is an ota, or u wont get it
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Thanks mathkid. How would I go back to stock and do I need to do any kind of backup before or after rooting? Im sure these are very stupid questions I just really want to learn everything before I attempt messing around with my phone.

I think BuglessPete has a thread on that, or you could look at michaelpeerman's thread as well.
here ya go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078213

Root xoom without losing data???

Hello fellow xoom owners... I've had my xoom for awhile now but was hesitant to root because of nagging wife and children who also use xoom. But I'm a "rooter" and I can't take it anymore ...lol. I'm not new to rooting except for xoom as I'm not experienced in adb and what not... so if anyone can help I would be greatly appreciative. I've looked at plenty of tutorials and only found a select few that are simple but losing data is a "requirement"... Anyways as stated earlier any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Idk how I got here...

You will lose data because when you fastboot unlock it wipes the xoom. What you can do is back up your internal data n your computer. After youre done rooting put everything back. Your apps will have to be redownloaded from the play store.
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What version of Android are you on?

Currently I'm on 4.1.1 jr003h...
Idk how I got here...

Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
Its for the galaxy nexus but should work for a Xoom. Basically with 4.0+ we can now do full backups without needing to be unlocked/rooted, you just need adb to be set up.

Thanks for the link. But I'm not really familiar with adb. Guess I am a noob lol
idk how I got here...

treezy26 said:
Thanks for the link. But I'm not really familiar with adb. Guess I am a noob lol
idk how I got here...
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There's no reason to fear adb. It's very easy to set up and to use. After installation, you basically copy-paste the instructions. When I say it's easy, I mean it, last week I didn't have any idea of the existence of adb. An hour after I read about it, I managed to start using it. It's that easy!
I paste you the links I found useful (basically how to use it and how to install it).
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=ADB
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK
I think I'm going to try to make a complete backup this weekend, just to see how much time it takes. But my device is already unlocked and rooted, so I suppose if you decide to try it, it would be on your risk.

Thanks for the links. As soon as I get home I'll read it and see where to go from there. If I'm brave enough to go through with it lol
idk how I got here...

Just word of advice, if you're rooting for the hell of rooting it and you don't need it, I did say (from personal opinion) forget it.
Ok on topic, adb is fairly safe I never heard of anyone bricking their device using adb commands unless they moved some system files (don't know if that's even possible with no root).

[Q] How to remove rooting AND custom ROM

Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
Also, last question, I am backing my phone up by hooking it up to the computer via USB and dragging each folder and everything into a folder on my computer as a backup. That being said, since I want to UNDO my root and custom ROM and everything, are there any files I should NOT copy to my computer that might mess this up or make my phone think it's still rooted or anything?
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!

gamer6592 said:
Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!
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Ok, so basically, you just want to unroot your phone? Go into super user and there is an option to unroot your phone OR, use any file explorer like ES explore, root explore and navigate to this directory /system/xbin and delete su file.
May I ask, what you about to do is really a big waist of time, it doesn't help you anyway in installing custom rom or make your phone run better!! what is the reason for this??

buhohitr said:
Ok, so basically, you just want to unroot your phone? Go into super user and there is an option to unroot your phone OR, use any file explorer like ES explore, root explore and navigate to this directory /system/xbin and delete su file.
May I ask, what you about to do is really a big waist of time, it doesn't help you anyway in installing custom rom or make your phone run better!! what is the reason for this??
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1st: I bolded the part in your statement that I was talking about in my first post. I appreciate the help a lot, so no offense, but I have no idea what that sentence even meant.. Will you please speak more clearly, and, to be honest, dumb it down a lot for me. I seriously know nothing about this stuff.
2nd: I don't want help installing custom ROMs. I want to go back to the way my phone was BEFORE having to use any custom ROMs. In other words, I don't even want Jelly Bean on my phone the way it is anymore. I want Ice Cream Sandwich back (I'm pretty sure that was the last one, right? Lol) so that from THERE I can update using VERIZON's Jelly Bean update.
The reason is that I've had problems with my phone that I NEVER had before rooting/downloading this custom "nightly" ROM. The main problem, I can not play ANY games on my phone without it crashing minutes in. I have a Galaxy S3, for crying out loud, so the games obviously aren't too much for the phone itself to handle. I think the nightly ROM I downloaded was just a bit buggy.
Another main reason I want to is because I miss all of the developer options my phone had before, i.e screenshots by swiping hand over screen, Kies Air, etc.
If someone could please help me a bit more in depth I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks again!

gamer6592 said:
Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
Also, last question, I am backing my phone up by hooking it up to the computer via USB and dragging each folder and everything into a folder on my computer as a backup. That being said, since I want to UNDO my root and custom ROM and everything, are there any files I should NOT copy to my computer that might mess this up or make my phone think it's still rooted or anything?
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!
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How bout this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867253
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I assume you didn't root yourself. I would ask whoever did it for you to undo it.
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Unfortunately if you want to go back to stock ICS (before the updates and everything) without root or unlocked boot loader you are going to lose all your phone data. That's the price you pay for rooting. But you are doing the right thing by copying all the files you want to your computer, I assume you're copying your internal SD card. The best you could do for apps is to use titanium backup and backup your apps, and SMS.
Then follow this guide to go back to ICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28530394
If you can't do this guide or don't understand it then I agree with the previous poster and get whoever rooted your phone top undo it.
Now that you are back on ICS reroot using the steps in the same guide I just linked download titanium backup and restore your apps and sms.
You can then select the option in the supersu app to full unroot.
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kintwofan said:
Unfortunately if you want to go back to stock ICS (before the updates and everything) without root or unlocked boot loader you are going to lose all your phone data. That's the price you pay for rooting. But you are doing the right thing by copying all the files you want to your computer, I assume you're copying your internal SD card. The best you could do for apps is to use titanium backup and backup your apps, and SMS.
Then follow this guide to go back to ICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28530394
If you can't do this guide or don't understand it then I agree with the previous poster and get whoever rooted your phone top undo it.
Now that you are back on ICS reroot using the steps in the same guide I just linked download titanium backup and restore your apps and sms.
You can then select the option in the supersu app to full unroot.
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I did it myself, eventually, but it was just as hard. So let me get this straight, you're saying that I need to follow that guide (I'm assuming the part that says how to Odin back from ROM etc), then I need to reroot in order for titanium backup to work so that I can restore everything, THEN unroot again? When you say reroot, will following that guide cause me to become unrooted already? Thx.

gamer6592 said:
I did it myself, eventually, but it was just as hard. So let me get this straight, you're saying that I need to follow that guide (I'm assuming the part that says how to Odin back from ROM etc), then I need to reroot in order for titanium backup to work so that I can restore everything, THEN unroot again? When you say reroot, will following that guide cause me to become unrooted already? Thx.
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You should follow section 5 if that guide to return your phone to sick ICS. It will be just like you got it from Verizon. This means no root and your internal SD wiped.
Then you will want to root that to restore your titanium backup that you've already made. Again that guide will show you how.
Sent from my LG spectrum (that's right) blazing fast on cm10!

kintwofan said:
You should follow section 5 if that guide to return your phone to sick ICS. It will be just like you got it from Verizon. This means no root and your internal SD wiped.
Then you will want to root that to restore your titanium backup that you've already made. Again that guide will show you how.
Sent from my LG spectrum (that's right) blazing fast on cm10!
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lol ok I'll do that. And last Qs (I think lol) unrooting again is just as fast as clicking unroot in superuser? and then last but not least once I do will I be able to update OTA to jelly bean again? Cuz I still want JB I just want official JB. If worst comes to worst I just use that Kies Air program? Thanks

gamer6592 said:
lol ok I'll do that. And last Qs (I think lol) unrooting again is just as fast as clicking unroot in superuser? and then last but not least once I do will I be able to update OTA to jelly bean again? Cuz I still want JB I just want official JB. If worst comes to worst I just use that Kies Air program? Thanks
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Yes full unroot from app will unroot you. Or just delete the app and take the ota
Sent from my LG spectrum (that's right) blazing fast on cm10!

I'm really sorry to do this but.. Lol. This honestly should be my last Q. The rest seems quite clear to me but is the part of that guide under section 5 titled "*Flashing a Stock Radio with Odin or a Custom Recovery" applicable to what I'm trying to do as well? It's kind of offset like it's something optional/different but do I need to do that also to take my phone back today? Thanks.

Soon getting my precious RAZR HD

So, in a week I'm getting my RAZR HD from Canada (not sure if it was Fido or Rogers), unlocked and unused. Now, I would like to do some modifications to it, and I need some help since I'm coming from Galaxy Nexus, where everything is just thousand times easier...
Basically, I just want my device being on JB and rooted. I think it will be on ICS when it arives.
I saw the methods to root the phone, and I will use the VooDoo RootKeeper app for it. However, if there is an uncomplicated method to root the phone even if already on JB, please feel free to tell me.
Another thing - having in mind that I still don't want to flash ROMs on my new phone, just root it, do I need to unlock the bootloader? I am quite sure that Canadian warranty doesn't mean crap in Serbia, but I just don't think I need that just now if it's not necessary for just rooting the device on JB.
So, simplified - do I need to unlock the BL for rooting, and is there an easier method do root the phone on JB than the one with VooDoo app?
Thanks guys!

Have I placed the question in the wrong section or what..?

Follow the thread for bootloader unlock... Once you have that done install recovery... After that you can follow the thread which has the given steps for upgrading from ICS to JB.. For the fido and Rogers official hasn't been released yet so you have to make your own sbf file to flash... To root that you just flash the supersu package

Thanks! Appreciated.

Sorry my friens, just two more questions:
1) Is there really a thread for unlocking the bootloader, or I use the Moto site, as everybody suggests?
2) You said I should make my own sbf file? Is that something special or am I a bit unfamiliar with that file type? As far as I know, .zipr files are being flashed through CWM.
Thanks again!

Sooo, sbf files?
I'm sorry if I'm spamming a bit, but this is really important to me. Thanks.

[Q] About to unlock RAZR HD questions

I need to some help with making sure I am going the right way.
I've got a Razr HD - XT925 on the ROGERS/FIDO network.
The phone is rooted and I wanted to install Cyanogenmod on it. I used to have it on a Motorola Milestone and loved it. I would love to install Cyanogenmod on this phone as I liked the way you could tweak the phone more.
Android version is 4.1.2
Baseband - VANQUISH_U_BP_100700.220.65.33P
BUILD NUMBER - 9.8.2Q-8-XT925_VQL-12.2
SYSTEM VERSION - 98.21.12202.XT925.RCI.en.CA
Now I've had root for awhile now and ready to take the plunge. Here are the steps I think I should take.
1. Unlock with Motopocalyspe.
2. Install TWRP
3. Add Cyanogenmod img to SD Card.
4. Boot into recovery and install img file?
Given the type of phone I have will these steps be fine? I'd appreciate the help to know at least I am in the right direction. Thanks in advance!

i cant confirm your system version will let you unlock, but your steps are correct.

I've been to the Motorola site and it seems like I should be able to unlock. I would rather unlock using motopocalyspe though. Can anyone confirm?
Also regarding cyanogenmod, is it relatively stable? Camera works? Wireless? Which version is recommended?
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dbbreaker said:
I need to some help with making sure I am going the right way.
I've got a Razr HD - XT925 on the ROGERS/FIDO network.
The phone is rooted and I wanted to install Cyanogenmod on it. I used to have it on a Motorola Milestone and loved it. I would love to install Cyanogenmod on this phone as I liked the way you could tweak the phone more.
Android version is 4.1.2
Baseband - VANQUISH_U_BP_100700.220.65.33P
BUILD NUMBER - 9.8.2Q-8-XT925_VQL-12.2
SYSTEM VERSION - 98.21.12202.XT925.RCI.en.CA
Now I've had root for awhile now and ready to take the plunge. Here are the steps I think I should take.
1. Unlock with Motopocalyspe.
2. Install TWRP
3. Add Cyanogenmod img to SD Card.
4. Boot into recovery and install img file?
Given the type of phone I have will these steps be fine? I'd appreciate the help to know at least I am in the right direction. Thanks in advance!
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Can anyone confirm my system version will be able to be unlocked? That motocopolypse is the way to unlock this phone? 93 views and no one can bother with an answer? Cmon people a little help here

dbbreaker said:
Can anyone confirm my system version will be able to be unlocked? That motocopolypse is the way to unlock this phone? 93 views and no one can bother with an answer? Cmon people a little help here
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im here a lot, and i dont know, keep your panties on.
why dont you just try it and see if it works? there is no risk that im aware of, its either going to work or do nothing.

bweN diorD said:
im here a lot, and i dont know, keep your panties on.
why dont you just try it and see if it works? there is no risk that im aware of, its either going to work or do nothing.
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Well since this was a question and answer forum on Razr HD I thought it would be helpful if anyone else had any experience with this phone version and if any hiccups occured. So I would know what to expect. Obviously I could just try and see what happens as you say but given that I would be voiding my warrenty when I do unlock, I just wanted to hear from others with this phone. Also from reading some posts on these forums I wouldn't say unlocking is without some risks as you say. But thanks for your insightful and helpful comment.

dbbreaker said:
Well since this was a question and answer forum on Razr HD I thought it would be helpful if anyone else had any experience with this phone version and if any hiccups occured. So I would know what to expect. Obviously I could just try and see what happens as you say but given that I would be voiding my warrenty when I do unlock, I just wanted to hear from others with this phone. Also from reading some posts on these forums I wouldn't say unlocking is without some risks as you say. But thanks for your insightful and helpful comment.
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i do what i can to help this dying forum
my sarcasm is just a bonus

i have the same phone...did u motochopper for root? just got the phone and am trying to get my head around this...i'm still not sure if i'll return it so wondering as u are about unlocking the bootloader. the moto site disclaimer sounds like if u unlock, nothing will work again and i guess you'll be registered with big brother lol
dbbreaker said:
I need to some help with making sure I am going the right way.
I've got a Razr HD - XT925 on the ROGERS/FIDO network.
The phone is rooted and I wanted to install Cyanogenmod on it. I used to have it on a Motorola Milestone and loved it. I would love to install Cyanogenmod on this phone as I liked the way you could tweak the phone more.
Android version is 4.1.2
Baseband - VANQUISH_U_BP_100700.220.65.33P
BUILD NUMBER - 9.8.2Q-8-XT925_VQL-12.2
SYSTEM VERSION - 98.21.12202.XT925.RCI.en.CA
Now I've had root for awhile now and ready to take the plunge. Here are the steps I think I should take.
1. Unlock with Motopocalyspe.
2. Install TWRP
3. Add Cyanogenmod img to SD Card.
4. Boot into recovery and install img file?
Given the type of phone I have will these steps be fine? I'd appreciate the help to know at least I am in the right direction. Thanks in advance!
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peladoro said:
i have the same phone...did u motochopper for root? just got the phone and am trying to get my head around this...i'm still not sure if i'll return it so wondering as u are about unlocking the bootloader. the moto site disclaimer sounds like if u unlock, nothing will work again and i guess you'll be registered with big brother lol
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Hey
Yeah I used motochopper to root my phone. Didn't have any problems with that. I then tried motocopolyspe to unlock the phone and it went without a hitch. Motopocolypse does exactly what the official website would do. I was relieved that it was so painless. And the phone is working like a charm. No problems! I then installed TWRP. Didn't really have any problems with that other then getting a message that the image file was invalid. When I investigated the problem more I found for some reason the image file was not complete so I redownloaded it and it worked after that. I now have Cyanogenmod running on the phone since Saturday and so far things are running great and no crashes or resets! Going to play around it it more and let you know. Let me know if you need any help with the steps I took. So you have exactly same phone? On the Fido network?

hey!!!
yes sir...i have the exact phone as you and am on the rogers network. was relieved to see your post cuz i just received the phone last friday and am unfamiliar with motorola...have/had a samsung infuse and am much more familiar with the those rooting methods. i had asked on other threads about the process and have read up on rosenberg's tool that i have to root first then unlock but having read the ominous warnings on the moto site about unlocking i was hesitant to use that...i love the battery life on this thing but was concerned about the ease of customizing but if u say it worked for u i think i'll keep it and take the plunge lol. yeah that would be great if u could help out on the steps as well...
thx again!:good:
dbbreaker said:
Hey
Yeah I used motochopper to root my phone. Didn't have any problems with that. I then tried motocopolyspe to unlock the phone and it went without a hitch. Motopocolypse does exactly what the official website would do. I was relieved that it was so painless. And the phone is working like a charm. No problems! I then installed TWRP. Didn't really have any problems with that other then getting a message that the image file was invalid. When I investigated the problem more I found for some reason the image file was not complete so I redownloaded it and it worked after that. I now have Cyanogenmod running on the phone since Saturday and so far things are running great and no crashes or resets! Going to play around it it more and let you know. Let me know if you need any help with the steps I took. So you have exactly same phone? On the Fido network?
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So how are things with the flashing? I saw on YouTube the procedures for rooting unlocking and placing the recovery IMG file to make it stick...with fastboot...is that pretty much how u did it? I mean for twrp...
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