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Is 1.5Ghz too high?

I have my Sensation set to 1.5Ghz and it works perfectly. The only thing is that it's getting a little hot (which is expected btw). It's currently fixed at 42C. 1.5Ghz is great but is it really that necessary? Should I just OC it to 1.3Ghz? I'm trying to find a nice temp base.

monkey hung said:
I have my Sensation set to 1.5Ghz and it works perfectly. The only thing is that it's getting a little hot (which is expected btw). It's currently fixed at 42C. 1.5Ghz is great but is it really that necessary? Should I just OC it to 1.3Ghz? I'm trying to find a nice temp base.
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To answer your question, each device will have a differing operational ceiling depending on the quality of the SoC, soldering, silk-screening etc. They aren't all created equal. If 1.5GHz works fine for you, stick with it I see OC kernels pushing to 1.8GHz now.
Naturally the higher you go the hotter your SoC will run, so I'd play around and find the point where you gain some performance, but negligible heat over stock. Heat will kill not only your SoC, but your battery as well.
I'm only going from personal experience, but I've never found an OC to be worth it in terms of an actual, real-life performance increase, on any device. It looks good in benchmarks, but I'd rather have a phone that was smooth as butter in day-to-day operation than a jerky piece of sh*t that gets 10,000 in Quadrant YMMV of course!
The heat stress and battery drainage costs, plus stability issues, outweigh the positives for me.

How can I reset my CPU back to stock then?

monkey hung said:
How can I reset my CPU back to stock then?
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Most of the Sensation ROMs feature what's called an OC Daemon.
This is pretty much an automatic overclocker of sorts. It can change your clock ceiling/floor automatically depending on load. Read a bit more about it here.
If you have something like SetCPU installed, the Daemon is redundant, giving you manual control over your clocks. The easiest way to return to 'stock' frequencies would be to simply delete SetCPU and allow the Daemon to do it's thing

Well I uninstalled it and I have LeeDroid. How do I find this "daemon"? Where would it be located? What do I do I'm a noob

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Well I uninstalled it and I have LeeDroid. How do I find this "daemon"? Where would it be located? What do I do I'm a noob
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I couldn't see whether the daemon in included on LeeDroid, or whether LeeDroid has actually just modified the frequency tables (list of supported frequencies) to allow for the ~1730MHz ceiling. If the daemon is there, it'll already be working for you - you don't see it
I don't believe it's something you can just download and tack on. I think you'd have to be running a supported ROM. You may need to dig a little deeper into the LeeDroid thread and do some reading, or perhaps retitle this thread to ask 'Does LeeDroid include the OC Daemon' or something similar.
Sorry I can't be more help, I'm a devout Android Revolution HD supporter myself, although I am running the UNITY kernel.
Good luck mate!

personally I can't see the need to over clock, given that all software is probably written for devices currently in use, I do not know of any dual core 1.5 or higher phones, so why oc ?
I agree , I would rather have a fast stable phone, than some jerky fc piece of ****e that gets 10000 jiggawatts in a benchmark, and that can cook my crumpets..................... on second thoughts, I do like my crumpets.

[REF] Benchmark Methods (All Phones)

This thread shows the results of some benchmarks of the Android OS (using a Nexus S) where certain parameters affecting performance have been isolated to the greatest extent and then compared statistically.
Background
I teach mathematics, and also used to be a professional sound engineer.
Some of my work on measuring battery drain was published on the XDA portal here however since then further studies were conducted, revealing critical flaws in my original test setup.
Although I believe some of my finding may be generalised to other devices, please bear in mind that my device is a Nexus S, and has its own peculiarities. I have attempted to edit out findings which I believe may be specific to the Nexus S, but I have linked to the original thread in case you wish to go exploring further results, or get an overview of my methodologies, which are usually in the second post.
Please feel free to post or PM with any queries, and I am more than happy to help if you want to apply my techniques to your own device.

Results
Over my time here in XDA I've built up a few studies on the Nexus S.
Here are the links. There are summaries in each thread in the first and second (and sometimes third) posts of the main findings, but I've done some very quick and minimal overviews here also.
ICS ROM Benchmarks: this thread
-Freely available benchmark programs were used to determine which ROMs had the best performance. Among the top six were an AOSP ROM with some CM9 parts, MIUI, and Stock, all within about 1% of each other. My conclusion was that the gingerbread tweaks we all knew and loved didn't improve performance with ICS, and in some cases, enthusiastic young developers were throwing together incompatible tweaks that hurt performance.
Battery Drain Benchmarks: this thread
#1 - With screen on, the slowest processor step saves the most power (duh... )
#2 - Regardless of your choice of governor, even with extreme undervolting, you are not going to be able to increase your battery life by more than 2%. (Click here for explanation.)
For the instability introduced by UV, it seems a 2% increase in battery life isn't really worth it! REMEMBER rebooting uses so much power, a single one would more than undo any savings made by UV.
Also, undervolting seems to cause more reboots when the battery is running low. This makes sense, as the battery runs low it loses some of its voltage (which shouldn't be confused with remaining power capacity).
#4 - This is one point that everyone ought to know, but I'm including because many people seem to believe in myths: if the screen is off, and the CPU is not active, neither deep idle nor UV will have any impact on battery life.
#6 - If you have an amoled display, black saves a great deal of power. After that, red. If you have a black and red theme, this is saving you power!
#9 - For amoled displays, Kernels higher FPS mods will cause the screen to drain about more power. For instance, on the Nexus S, 65 fps drained 10% more power than 56 fps. Also, 50 fps saved about 7% power compared to 56 fps.
#11 - If you've got no reception, you might as well be in airplane mode, because searching for reception also eats battery.
#12 - If your phone can't handle OC (or UV for that matter) it's because components in general are built to cost, which means factoring in tolerances, and every chip is made as cheaply as possible within the specified tolerances. Outside of those tolerances, whether your chip can cope or not is unfortunately down to the whether you got lucky with the individual device that dropped off the manufacturing line.
ARM document on A8 fault tolerance: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.../Babhjhag.html
In fact I measured how UV in particular can cause errors, and saw in action the A8 using MORE power to correct the errors.
CPU Governors and I/O Schedulers: this thread
-Interestingly, CFQ generally performs very well, and deadline. Most custom kernel developers in the Nexus S section recommend a version of deadline that has been tweaked for flash storage. In one of my unpublished benchmarks deadline performed slightly better than CFQ.
Does SuperCharging work?: this thread
-This was just a short study to find out if this script is suitable for the Nexus S, but it turned out it had no effect, positive or negative. This script was probably more use on devices that had less memory. One benefit that remains is to 'bulletproof' the launcher.
Kernel Memory Allocators: this thread
-This is another short study for kernel developers to show that SLUB performs best.

[Q] - Overclocked kernels - What's the point ?

I see a lot of overclocked kernel editions, and I am wonder could someone explane me, except extensive battery draining, instabillity and overheating of device, what is and is there any crucial positive point of overclocked kernels ?

Overclocked kernels are simply kernels whose speed limit had been raised above the stock speed.
That increases perrormans dramatically as is visible by different benchmarks utilities.
You are correct to assume that higher clock would require some extra voltage and that the phone will get hotter. But it is not always noticeable and is mostly depentant on the configuration.
The cpu clock is not always at the highest possible. Different governors define what speed should the cpu be at any time. If there's a lot of work the cpuspeed would increase and if it idles a lot it would decrease.
I love 3 oc kernels, Sebastian's, bricked and faux. They all have different philosophies but all are excelent, do not overheat and save gather.compared to stock though they allow higher cpu freqs.
I suggest you create a nandroid backup and try some of.there kernels. Give it atleast two days.before you make up your mind about it, and try another if you wish, till you find the one that is right for you.
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I agree. I never see the point of over clocking. I always limit my processor to 1.18 or even 1.13 and never have any problems with overheating or poor battery life!

I used overclock kernels for a long time on my gs2. Its nearly the same like with a desktop CPU. Every CPU had it's own work range, many CPUs a
are even able to work with higher frequency but lower voltage than standard. This causes in higher speed with lower power consumption!
all you need is a kernel which allows individual voltage settings for each speed which you can set with setcpu.
BUT my opinion is that even the gs2 with 1,2 GHz dual core was faster than any Android app had needed, so the gs3 at all!
ATM I've setted the max frequency in setcpu to 600 mhz and I can't see any lags or missing speed...
So I guess many people are more looking for benchmarking than real practical advantage..
but undervolting is a real great thing for power hungry smartphones!
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You all right guys. That is why I asked myself that question because there is hard to find modded kernels with default speeds and all new goodies, because I have noticed even I "limit" overclocked kernel in my Hypersensation CM7 Cyanogen Settings, it happens that some kernels from time to time speeds up to overclocked value, even in settings they were limited, and that impact widespread device causes instabillity ( and corrensponding unpleasent situations of forced battery pulling).
Last good kernel what I find for my CM7 ( I don't like ICS) is Bricked_XE-1.6.beta7 and with this release of CM7 it seems that kernel edition further development stops.It runs on 1526 Mhz and I allways wonder why shouldn't it run "out of the box" on default speed...
Does anyone have suggestion link, (because I couldn't find it )for any CM7 modded kernel with all new goodies, but running on default Sensation XE Mhz speed ?

i have been using overclocked Kernels for a while now and rarely have any problems, the phone is quick, very quick and the battery drain is really not that different and that is running it at 1.72 with both cores permanently on

tin2404 said:
[...] because I have noticed even I "limit" overclocked kernel in my Hypersensation CM7 Cyanogen Settings, it happens that some kernels from time to time speeds up to overclocked value
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This really should not happen. The maximum frequency for a governor is set through /sys pseudo-fs and (assuming the governor is not buggy) strictly followed. Maybe you have some leftover scripts somewhere messing with /sys?
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( and corrensponding unpleasent situations of forced battery pulling).
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And this should -- like already pointed out -- only be the case under heavy load. Normally, a sensible governor will only set frequencies necessary to satisfy the current load.

[INFO] Getting better battery life and performance

You may have heard about how flashing a new ROM can improve your Android experience, but flashing a new kernel is one of the best ways to improve your phone's performance, battery life, and even add some saucy new features. Whether you know anything about either, here's what you need to know to make it happen.
What Is a Kernel?
A kernel in an operating system—in this case Android—is the component responsible for helping your applications communicate with your hardware. It manages the system resources, communicates with external devices when needed, and so on. Android uses a variation of the Linux kernel. A kernel is not the same as a ROM, even though you install them in mostly the same way. A ROM is a bit more all-encompassing. It's the operating system you use on your phone, the software your phone uses to get things done—the kernel is the bridge between that ROM and your hardware. All ROMs come with a kernel installed, but you can install a third-party one if you like—and that's what this post is about.
What a New Kernel Can Do For Your Phone
Flashing kernels isn't quite as talked about as flashing ROMs, but it can do a ton for your phone, namely in the way of battery life and performance—though it can also add extra features to your device, too. Here are some things to look for when choosing a new kernel.
Better Performance and Battery Life
This is the big change a new kernel can bring to your device. I'd separate these into two categories, but they're so intertwined that you really need to consider both when picking a kernel. There are a bunch of different kernel features that contribute to this:
Clock Speeds: In a very basic sense, higher clock speeds will improve performance on your phone. Flashing a new kernel allows you to overclock your phone, using higher clock speeds than the manufacturer intended. They can also let you reach lower clock speeds, so you can underclock your phone when you aren't using it, thus saving battery life. Your kernel will only give you the option to do so, however; if you want to overclock, you'll have to flash the kernel in question and then use something like SetCPU or CPU Tuner to tweak the clock speed.
Voltage: Higher clock speeds use up more battery on your phone because they require more voltage. However, some ROMs come with lower voltage limits, which means your phone will run just as fast, but use up less battery. Some will even overclock and undervolt your phone, though all of this comes at the expense of stability—if you notice that your phone goes into a boot loop, or reboots at random times, you'll want to either lower your clock speed or upgrade to a kernel with a higher voltage. Some ROMS have further sub-categories in this section, like Hybrid Adaptive Voltage Scaling (HAVS), which can be better for battery life (at the risk of stability) and Static Voltage Scaling (SVS), which keeps your phone at a steady voltage.
CPU Governors: Different kernels can support different CPU Governers, which manage the way your phone ramps up or down its clock speeds as you use it. There are a few different kinds you'll see, including Conservative, which focuses on battery life by ramping up your CPU very gradually when needed; Interactive, which focuses more on performance and smoothness by scaling up the CPU faster; InteractiveX, which is like Interactive but scales the CPU down when your screen is off (for better battery life); and Smartass, which is similar to Conservative but takes more factors into account when ramping up the CPU.
Task Scheduler: Kernels come with two different types of task schedulers: the Completely Fair Scheduler (CFS) and the Brain F**k Scheduler (BFS). CFS kernels are designed for regular phone use, like texting, web browsing, and otherwise multitasking apps on your phone. Most stock kernels are CFS kernels. BFS kernels focus more on whatever app is in the foreground, which is great for things like games but can be a bit laggier and a bit less stable.
These are the biggest features, but kernel developers add in all kinds of other tweaks to their kernels when possible, whether its introducing a more efficient file system, making the RAM more efficient, and so on. Again, they should list the tweaks in their description, so read up on the kernels for your specific device to learn more. I'd also recommend checking out XDA user mroneeyedboh's HTC Evo 4G kernel starter guide, from which much of this information comes.
Extra Features
Kernels can also add full features to your phone, or fix other issues that the manufacturer hasn't attended to yet. For example, while a lot of phones support Wi-Fi tethering out of the box, some—like the Motorola Droid—don't. If you find your phone isn't letting you tether using apps like Wi-Fi Tether, you might need to flash a new kernel that supports Wi-Fi tethering on your device. Kernels for Samsung phones can add support for a feature called Backlight Notification (BLN), which, coupled with an app, can turn your phone's buttons into notification lights.
Keep an eye out for features you don't want, too. For example, some HTC kernels come with a feature called Superior Battery Charging, or SBC, that can overcharge your battery for better life—but is likely to shorten your battery's life at best, or make it unstable at worst. I'd avoid kernels with this feature. You should also watch out for kernels that disable certain features of your phone—since some features are manufacturer-specific, you won't be able to get them in other ROMs or kernels. A good example of this is HDMI support on the EVO 4G.
Again, just make sure you research all the kernels available for your device, and know what you're getting yourself into before you flash. Most phones should have a large forum thread somewhere on XDA or RootzWiki that lists all the kernels available for their device. Make sure you choose a compatible one, too—the version of Android you're running determines what kernels you can use, so make sure you don't flash a Sense kernel on an AOSP ROM (like CyanogenMod), and make sure you don't flash a Froyo kernel on a Gingerbread phone—they won't play nicely together.
How to Flash a New Kernel
Once you've found a kernel you want to flash, download it to your device. It should be in ZIP format. Flashing a kernel is almost exactly like flashing a new ROM. You'll need to flash a new recovery to your phone, like ClockworkMod, which you can flash with ROM Manager. Put the ZIP file on your phone's SD card, then start up ROM Manager and go to "Install ROM from SD Card". Choose the kernel's ZIP file and continue. Note, however, that some kernels require that you flash them through your recovery mode instead of with ROM Manager—so once again, do your due diligence on its home page before you go a-flashin'.
The main difference between flashing a ROM and flashing a kernel is that you do not want to wipe your data. Wipe the Dalvik Cache only, and back up your ROM if desired (I highly recommend doing so, in case something goes wrong). Other than that, you should be golden. If you haven't flashed a ROM before, I recommend reading up on that first—but if you're familiar with that process, flashing a kernel shouldn't be a big shock to the system.
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Tha TechnoCrat said:
You may have heard about how flashing a new ROM can improve your Android experience, but flashing a new kernel is one of the best ways to improve your phone's performance, battery life, and even add some saucy new features. Whether you know anything about either, here's what you need to know to make it happen.
What Is a Kernel?
A kernel in an operating system—in this case Android—is the component responsible for helping your applications communicate with your hardware. It manages the system resources, communicates with external devices when needed, and so on. Android uses a variation of the Linux kernel. A kernel is not the same as a ROM, even though you install them in mostly the same way. A ROM is a bit more all-encompassing. It's the operating system you use on your phone, the software your phone uses to get things done—the kernel is the bridge between that ROM and your hardware. All ROMs come with a kernel installed, but you can install a third-party one if you like—and that's what this post is about.
What a New Kernel Can Do For Your Phone
Flashing kernels isn't quite as talked about as flashing ROMs, but it can do a ton for your phone, namely in the way of battery life and performance—though it can also add extra features to your device, too. Here are some things to look for when choosing a new kernel.
Better Performance and Battery Life
This is the big change a new kernel can bring to your device. I'd separate these into two categories, but they're so intertwined that you really need to consider both when picking a kernel. There are a bunch of different kernel features that contribute to this:
Clock Speeds: In a very basic sense, higher clock speeds will improve performance on your phone. Flashing a new kernel allows you to overclock your phone, using higher clock speeds than the manufacturer intended. They can also let you reach lower clock speeds, so you can underclock your phone when you aren't using it, thus saving battery life. Your kernel will only give you the option to do so, however; if you want to overclock, you'll have to flash the kernel in question and then use something like SetCPU or CPU Tuner to tweak the clock speed.
Voltage: Higher clock speeds use up more battery on your phone because they require more voltage. However, some ROMs come with lower voltage limits, which means your phone will run just as fast, but use up less battery. Some will even overclock and undervolt your phone, though all of this comes at the expense of stability—if you notice that your phone goes into a boot loop, or reboots at random times, you'll want to either lower your clock speed or upgrade to a kernel with a higher voltage. Some ROMS have further sub-categories in this section, like Hybrid Adaptive Voltage Scaling (HAVS), which can be better for battery life (at the risk of stability) and Static Voltage Scaling (SVS), which keeps your phone at a steady voltage.
CPU Governors: Different kernels can support different CPU Governers, which manage the way your phone ramps up or down its clock speeds as you use it. There are a few different kinds you'll see, including Conservative, which focuses on battery life by ramping up your CPU very gradually when needed; Interactive, which focuses more on performance and smoothness by scaling up the CPU faster; InteractiveX, which is like Interactive but scales the CPU down when your screen is off (for better battery life); and Smartass, which is similar to Conservative but takes more factors into account when ramping up the CPU.
Task Scheduler: Kernels come with two different types of task schedulers: the Completely Fair Scheduler (CFS) and the Brain F**k Scheduler (BFS). CFS kernels are designed for regular phone use, like texting, web browsing, and otherwise multitasking apps on your phone. Most stock kernels are CFS kernels. BFS kernels focus more on whatever app is in the foreground, which is great for things like games but can be a bit laggier and a bit less stable.
These are the biggest features, but kernel developers add in all kinds of other tweaks to their kernels when possible, whether its introducing a more efficient file system, making the RAM more efficient, and so on. Again, they should list the tweaks in their description, so read up on the kernels for your specific device to learn more. I'd also recommend checking out XDA user mroneeyedboh's HTC Evo 4G kernel starter guide, from which much of this information comes.
Extra Features
Kernels can also add full features to your phone, or fix other issues that the manufacturer hasn't attended to yet. For example, while a lot of phones support Wi-Fi tethering out of the box, some—like the Motorola Droid—don't. If you find your phone isn't letting you tether using apps like Wi-Fi Tether, you might need to flash a new kernel that supports Wi-Fi tethering on your device. Kernels for Samsung phones can add support for a feature called Backlight Notification (BLN), which, coupled with an app, can turn your phone's buttons into notification lights.
Keep an eye out for features you don't want, too. For example, some HTC kernels come with a feature called Superior Battery Charging, or SBC, that can overcharge your battery for better life—but is likely to shorten your battery's life at best, or make it unstable at worst. I'd avoid kernels with this feature. You should also watch out for kernels that disable certain features of your phone—since some features are manufacturer-specific, you won't be able to get them in other ROMs or kernels. A good example of this is HDMI support on the EVO 4G.
Again, just make sure you research all the kernels available for your device, and know what you're getting yourself into before you flash. Most phones should have a large forum thread somewhere on XDA or RootzWiki that lists all the kernels available for their device. Make sure you choose a compatible one, too—the version of Android you're running determines what kernels you can use, so make sure you don't flash a Sense kernel on an AOSP ROM (like CyanogenMod), and make sure you don't flash a Froyo kernel on a Gingerbread phone—they won't play nicely together.
How to Flash a New Kernel
Once you've found a kernel you want to flash, download it to your device. It should be in ZIP format. Flashing a kernel is almost exactly like flashing a new ROM. You'll need to flash a new recovery to your phone, like ClockworkMod, which you can flash with ROM Manager. Put the ZIP file on your phone's SD card, then start up ROM Manager and go to "Install ROM from SD Card". Choose the kernel's ZIP file and continue. Note, however, that some kernels require that you flash them through your recovery mode instead of with ROM Manager—so once again, do your due diligence on its home page before you go a-flashin'.
The main difference between flashing a ROM and flashing a kernel is that you do not want to wipe your data. Wipe the Dalvik Cache only, and back up your ROM if desired (I highly recommend doing so, in case something goes wrong). Other than that, you should be golden. If you haven't flashed a ROM before, I recommend reading up on that first—but if you're familiar with that process, flashing a kernel shouldn't be a big shock to the system.
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thanks for sharing :good:

hi..
thx a lot for useful info for me as newbie. i'd like to req. permission to copy your info to my personal note..
i'm appreciated of your kindness.
TQ

Thanks, great information
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muchas gracias

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thx a lot for useful info for me as newbie. i'd like to req. permission to copy your info to my personal note..
i'm appreciated of your kindness.
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tks it's usefful
do u recommand a kernel for best battery life?

i am using jammal rom and allucard kernel, but i only get 3460 scores and battery life is terrible. any tips?

Great info
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Informative. Much appreciated.

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There are plenty of apps in play store to disable wifi and 3G in order to optimize battery

i use zero lemon battery its great 7500 mAh lasts for days

kernel for best battery life?

Ive heard good things about talexop kernel

I also have zero lemon battery 7500 mAh I can get almost three days life on it without a charge
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Hello .. after i instal an official lollipop using odin i notice that my battery mah drop from oroginal 2600mah to 2100mah i using many programs like aida64 and battery monitor widget and every program told me my battery is only 2100mah and i think the mah is reading from android kernel , i downgrade the phone back to kitkat 4.4.2 and the battery mah reading was correct and back again to 2600 so i think it was a mistake during the install of lollipop so i download the newer firmware available -I9515XXU1BOE3- and upgrade my firmware again but the problem come back again with wrong battery reading only 2100mah, i try to wipe the battery state and make calibration but nothing solved i downgrade the phone and upgrade it again and the problem appear every time ... could any one please help me how to solve this problem ... thanks in advance

hunter777 said:
Hello .. after i instal an official lollipop using odin i notice that my battery mah drop from oroginal 2600mah to 2100mah i using many programs like aida64 and battery monitor widget and every program told me my battery is only 2100mah and i think the mah is reading from android kernel , i downgrade the phone back to kitkat 4.4.2 and the battery mah reading was correct and back again to 2600 so i think it was a mistake during the install of lollipop so i download the newer firmware available -I9515XXU1BOE3- and upgrade my firmware again but the problem come back again with wrong battery reading only 2100mah, i try to wipe the battery state and make calibration but nothing solved i downgrade the phone and upgrade it again and the problem appear every time ... could any one please help me how to solve this problem ... thanks in advance
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It's normal. It's just wrong reading the battery capacity in lollipop. But, actually it is 2600mAh. It doesn't matter.
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I found undervolting could save up to 25% battery on my Nexus 4. I dropped it by 100mv which sounds a lot, but the device ran just as stable for I'd say 99% of the time. The only time I ever had a problem was if I started to take burst photos on the camera. I actually looked at recompiling the Camera apk to ramp up the the voltage ever so slightly.

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It's normal. It's just wrong reading the battery capacity in lollipop. But, actually it is 2600mAh. It doesn't matter.
Sent from my Galaxy S4
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thank you for your answer ... i want to know is this a common problem when upgrading to lollipop and if any one else face this problem with wrong mah battery capacity

hunter777 said:
thank you for your answer ... i want to know is this a common problem when upgrading to lollipop and if any one else face this problem with wrong mah battery capacity
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Do not worry, it is not a common problem but I had this some months ago on a leaked TW ROM. The problem fixed itself when I flashed CM12.1.
There is no impact on battery life.

Kernel Comparison

Hi XDA community!
I was doing research in to the current custom kernels available for our phone. Pretty much every kernel developer advertises their kernel as having improved performance and battery. One of the problems I found is that it is quite difficult to compare the performance and battery of kernels without trying it out for a week or so. I thought for the benefit of not only myself (who doesn't have time to test every kernel), but for the community that it would be helpful to have a thread that compares kernels.
Each post being a short comparison of at least 2 kernels should be sufficient. Performance, battery life, conditions (e.g. ROM, heavy user? non-gamer? etc. ) and special features (that set it apart)of a kernel would be good ways to compare them. Perhaps a quick rundown of your current kernel and why it suits your needs best could be good as well.
This is not a thread to tell me what you think the best kernel is. I believe that all custom kernels have their merit being somewhere on the balance between battery life and performance + a few features and suiting different people based on their needs.

Gonna reply to this thread I made a while ago after a bit of testing. I think it would be a good starting point for anyone who is indecisive with kernels.
Today I thought I'd compare 2 kernels that I've been using a fair bit recently. Both are based on S7 edge firmware, but have counterparts for S8 ROMs. The disclaimer is that I didn't have time to try every version of the kernels, nor will I promise that my experience will be the same as yours.
Tkkg1994's Superstock vs Farovitus' Notorious kernel
The competitors
Superstock kernel
Created by the famous developer of Superman, Superstock, Batman and Ironman ROMs.
Recommended by the developer himself over his other more modded kernel (Superkernel)
Stock Samsung values for CPU and GPU speed
Safety net green
Other performance/battery enhancements as laid out on his page https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/kernel-superstock-v1-3-5-t3453462 and below in the special features section.
Notorious kernel
Most popular custom kernel (by thread activity and likes)
Under clocked cores
Safety net green
Comes underclocked: Big: 312-1872 small: 234-1586
stock value for CPU speed
Plenty of performance and battery tweaks outlined in his page https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7...orious-kernel-tw-dqd1-g93xx-g93xxd-3-t3600711 and below in the special features section.
They both sound pretty good, but it's the real life performance that matters right?
Versions used
I've used super stock 2.7.1 and 2.9 (the versions that came with superman ROM 2.6 and 2.7 respectively). 2.9 will be the one discussed today. I have found the performance quite similar between the 2 versions however.
I've used Notorious 1.9.1
Kernel Mods (that I used)
Both were kept very close to how the developers intended
I changed the to IO scheduler on Superstock to Zen
And I changed the internal IO scheduler on Notorious to Row, external to maple
Both I used Westwood TCP congestion control.
Both I kept with the stock governor (interactive)
no undervolt for notorious kernel
Conditions - my ROM and usage pattern
Superman ROM 2.7 with Magisk root
Debloated
Black theme, wallpaper and ui etc.
clock widget xperia running
Force doze with significant motion detector disabled
Greenify privileged mode (pretty much all social messaging apps greenified)
Magisk module to doze google play services
I turned off pretty much all the advanced features: smart alert, smart stay, don't turn on when dark etc.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on (connecting to car and smartwatch)
Location always on
4g, volte and viLTE on
WiFi off (I got plenty of data)
Charged to ~75% at night every day
Use was moderate. Involved BT audio on 15 minute drive to and from work. Variable tasks being done on phone: calls, texting, messaging (whatsapp, messenger lite), looking up internet, occasional remote desktop. 8-9hr day at work. Some messaging, calls, texting at home but less than at work.
No games on phone - I have a busy job and I have a PC, PS4 and WiiU.
Performance
Superstock has very good performance. Absolutely no lags. UI feels smooth and fluid. I don't game however.
Notorious feels smooth and snappy despite being quite underclocked. Developer sped up the boot animation fps. Maybe it's in my head (and therefore insignificant if any), but possibly a bit slower to start apps. No lags however. Again, I don't game on the phone.
Battery
Superstock
Very good battery. A fair bit better than stock. I could lose between 1-4% overnight (6-9hr sleep). Never bothered measuring SOT but the phone lost on average ~20-25% per day moderate use as outlined above.
Notorious
Excellent battery. On my off days, I found that notorious enters deep sleep faster than superstock leading to less idle drain. It also seems to drain battery slower when screen on. Would lose 1-3% over a 6-9hr sleep. Average day would use up about 12-17% battery moderate use as outlined above.
Special features
Superstock is a plain kernel that just works out of the box. Not many modding opportunities - can adjust clock speed within the stock range. No voltage change. Can use the 3 basic governors. conservative, interactive (stock), on demand. Can change IO scheduler and TCP congestion algorithm. Only notable feature is the safety net green. A few services disabled according to the developer, but that is about it.
Notorious is very customisable with mtweaks many governors to choose from (I only bother using interactive). Under/overvolt and under/overclock avaliable for CPUs. Under/overvolt and under/overclock available for GPU. Boeffla kernel wake lock blockers. IO scheduler change, TCP algorithm change. I changed very few settings, but it is also commonly undervolted. On the thread, people liked to use bluactive, impulse and relaxed governors rather than interactive. With Notorious, I found that undervolting didnt really increase battery life much and gave me the increased paranoia of silent corruption/ instability. I change the TCP and IO so that it theoretically optimises my user experience. Realistically, I found no difference compared to stock and it was more for my obssesive compulsive side.
Verdict
For a non-gamer like me who uses the phone for calling, messaging, internet, video, music notorious provides more than adequate performance with greater battery savings than superstock.
Superstock I'd imagine to have much greater performance under a big load. It was subjectively more responsive and faster when doing my low power tasks.
At the end if the day both were much better than stock for me in terms of battery. I'd say that Superstock would be more for performance and Notorious would be more for battery saving. Any questions or comments, ask away!

Eggleston11 said:
Gonna reply to this thread I made a while ago after a bit of testing. I think it would be a good starting point for anyone who is indecisive with kernels.
Today I thought I'd compare 2 kernels that I've been using a fair bit recently. Both are based on S7 edge firmware, but have counterparts for S8 ROMs. The disclaimer is that I didn't have time to try every version of the kernels, nor will I promise that my experience will be the same as yours.
Tkkg1994's Superstock vs Farovitus' Notorious kernel
The competitors
Superstock kernel
Created by the famous developer of Superman, Superstock, Batman and Ironman ROMs.
Recommended by the developer himself over his other more modded kernel (Superkernel)
Stock Samsung values for CPU and GPU speed
Safety net green
Other performance/battery enhancements as laid out on his page https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/kernel-superstock-v1-3-5-t3453462 and below in the special features section.
Notorious kernel
Most popular custom kernel (by thread activity and likes)
Under clocked cores
Safety net green
Comes underclocked: Big: 312-1872 small: 234-1586
stock value for CPU speed
Plenty of performance and battery tweaks outlined in his page https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7...orious-kernel-tw-dqd1-g93xx-g93xxd-3-t3600711 and below in the special features section.
They both sound pretty good, but it's the real life performance that matters right?
Versions used
I've used super stock 2.7.1 and 2.9 (the versions that came with superman ROM 2.6 and 2.7 respectively). 2.9 will be the one discussed today. I have found the performance quite similar between the 2 versions however.
I've used Notorious 1.9.1
Kernel Mods (that I used)
Both were kept very close to how the developers intended
I changed the to IO scheduler on Superstock to Zen
And I changed the internal IO scheduler on Notorious to Row, external to maple
Both I used Westwood TCP congestion control.
Both I kept with the stock governor (interactive)
no undervolt for notorious kernel
Conditions - my ROM and usage pattern
Superman ROM 2.7 with Magisk root
Debloated
Black theme, wallpaper and ui etc.
clock widget xperia running
Force doze with significant motion detector disabled
Greenify privileged mode (pretty much all social messaging apps greenified)
Magisk module to doze google play services
I turned off pretty much all the advanced features: smart alert, smart stay, don't turn on when dark etc.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on (connecting to car and smartwatch)
Location always on
4g, volte and viLTE on
WiFi off (I got plenty of data)
Charged to ~75% at night every day
Use was moderate. Involved BT audio on 15 minute drive to and from work. Variable tasks being done on phone: calls, texting, messaging (whatsapp, messenger lite), looking up internet, occasional remote desktop. 8-9hr day at work. Some messaging, calls, texting at home but less than at work.
No games on phone - I have a busy job and I have a PC, PS4 and WiiU.
Performance
Superstock has very good performance. Absolutely no lags. UI feels smooth and fluid. I don't game however.
Notorious feels smooth and snappy despite being quite underclocked. Developer sped up the boot animation fps. Maybe it's in my head (and therefore insignificant if any), but possibly a bit slower to start apps. No lags however. Again, I don't game on the phone.
Battery
Superstock
Very good battery. A fair bit better than stock. I could lose between 1-4% overnight (6-9hr sleep). Never bothered measuring SOT but the phone lost on average ~20-25% per day moderate use as outlined above.
Notorious
Excellent battery. On my off days, I found that notorious enters deep sleep faster than superstock leading to less idle drain. It also seems to drain battery slower when screen on. Would lose 1-3% over a 6-9hr sleep. Average day would use up about 12-17% battery moderate use as outlined above.
Special features
Superstock is a plain kernel that just works out of the box. Not many modding opportunities - can adjust clock speed within the stock range. No voltage change. Can use the 3 basic governors. conservative, interactive (stock), on demand. Can change IO scheduler and TCP congestion algorithm. Only notable feature is the safety net green. A few services disabled according to the developer, but that is about it.
Notorious is very customisable with mtweaks many governors to choose from (I only bother using interactive). Under/overvolt and under/overclock avaliable for CPUs. Under/overvolt and under/overclock available for GPU. Boeffla kernel wake lock blockers. IO scheduler change, TCP algorithm change. I changed very few settings, but it is also commonly undervolted. On the thread, people liked to use bluactive, impulse and relaxed governors rather than interactive. With Notorious, I found that undervolting didnt really increase battery life much and gave me the increased paranoia of silent corruption/ instability. I change the TCP and IO so that it theoretically optimises my user experience. Realistically, I found no difference compared to stock and it was more for my obssesive compulsive side.
Verdict
For a non-gamer like me who uses the phone for calling, messaging, internet, video, music notorious provides more than adequate performance with greater battery savings than superstock.
Superstock I'd imagine to have much greater performance under a big load. It was subjectively more responsive and faster when doing my low power tasks.
At the end if the day both were much better than stock for me in terms of battery. I'd say that Superstock would be more for performance and Notorious would be more for battery saving. Any questions or comments, ask away!
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Hello,
Thank you for the very detailed review. :good:
May I ask how did you flash the notorius kernel ?
Did you installed the Superman ROM and then reflash the kernel over it ?
Thank you. :fingers-crossed:

Tqhao94 said:
Hello,
Thank you for the very detailed review. :good:
May I ask how did you flash the notorius kernel ?
Did you installed the Superman ROM and then reflash the kernel over it ?
Thank you. :fingers-crossed:
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Glad I'ts helping someone choose, cos I was very on and off abuot which one i wanted until i actually did the tests.
This is not the right forum to post this lol. This is meant to be about kernel reviews. The notorious kernel forum itself however isnt very clear.
It's just simply installing via twrp. dont forget to clear davlik/art cache after installation. Also, you need to flash root afterwards. I recommend you dont flash the root that the kernel comes with and to flash the root separately as there have been some bugs regarding that and also so that you can get the most up to date root.

Eggleston11 said:
Glad I'ts helping someone choose, cos I was very on and off abuot which one i wanted until i actually did the tests.
This is not the right forum to post this lol. This is meant to be about kernel reviews. The notorious kernel forum itself however isnt very clear.
It's just simply installing via twrp. dont forget to clear davlik/art cache after installation. Also, you need to flash root afterwards. I recommend you dont flash the root that the kernel comes with and to flash the root separately as there have been some bugs regarding that and also so that you can get the most up to date root.
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That discussion was very helping but the question the i have is that i am a heavy gamer and most of my battery drain is caused due to games... which one would u suggest for better gaming battery life from the above mentioned?

Xial Xahab said:
That discussion was very helping but the question the i have is that i am a heavy gamer and most of my battery drain is caused due to games... which one would u suggest for better gaming battery life from the above mentioned?
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Generally speaking this depends on the performance you need. If you can get your games to run sufficiently fast underclocked like on notorious, it will improve your battery life more just like it does in general. If it's too slow that way you'll have to see if super helps over stock. You could also try notorious and up the clock to more stock values but test out undervolting on it (as mentioned that does pose some risk) and see if your particular chip can be stable at a nice undervolt. Undervolting at high clocks can potentially save you a lot of battery life, but it depends on whether your chip is a "good" one or not.

Flandry said:
Generally speaking this depends on the performance you need. If you can get your games to run sufficiently fast underclocked like on notorious, it will improve your battery life more just like it does in general. If it's too slow that way you'll have to see if super helps over stock. You could also try notorious and up the clock to more stock values but test out undervolting on it (as mentioned that does pose some risk) and see if your particular chip can be stable at a nice undervolt. Undervolting at high clocks can potentially save you a lot of battery life, but it depends on whether your chip is a "good" one or not.
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Yep agreed => try games out on notorious. if they can work well on low clock speed, then keep it. Trying speeds between stock and notorious can work if the games are too laggy. Stock values may be necessary depending on what games you are using.
Undervolt may also help to improve performance while at lower clock speeds a less heat generated. Less voltage does also theoretically mean less power used. I have found the difference in battery life and heat with underclock to be quite insignificant. People calculate it to be 2-5% less power used. Given notorious already uses less than 1% per hour on average use for me. It means i'll be saving at best 5% of 1% so 0.02% per hour. Not much power saved and not worth in my opinion given the side effects.

Eggleston11 said:
Undervolt may also help to improve performance while at lower clock speeds a less heat generated. Less voltage does also theoretically mean less power used. I have found the difference in battery life and heat with underclock to be quite insignificant. People calculate it to be 2-5% less power used. Given notorious already uses less than 1% per hour on average use for me. It means i'll be saving at best 5% of 1% so 0.02% per hour. Not much power saved and not worth in my opinion given the side effects.
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The key is to undervolt during gaming, not idle. Undervolt can give exponentially more power savings at high clock speed. I agree it's not going to help for low clock speed and isn't usually worth the risk to corruption. With my Nokia N900 (back when you actually had to milk out all the MHz you could just to get 3D games on a phone, or in my case MAMEing arcades i could greatly increase gaming time when i dropped the volts for the highest CPU frequencies.
I appreciate your careful review of the two kernels. I'm still trying to figure out the ROM jungle for my new S7 Edge. Are these kernel and ROMs you are talking about snapdragon compatible or it this thread purely in exynos territory?

Flandry said:
The key is to undervolt during gaming, not idle. Undervolt can give exponentially more power savings at high clock speed. I agree it's not going to help for low clock speed and isn't usually worth the risk to corruption. With my Nokia N900 (back when you actually had to milk out all the MHz you could just to get 3D games on a phone, or in my case MAMEing arcades i could greatly increase gaming time when i dropped the volts for the highest CPU frequencies.
I appreciate your careful review of the two kernels. I'm still trying to figure out the ROM jungle for my new S7 Edge. Are these kernel and ROMs you are talking about snapdragon compatible or it this thread purely in exynos territory?
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Agreed that the ~5% savings would translate to a greater amount of power saved during gaming in theory. I dont personally game on my phone, so your experience on this is better than mine haha.
I have the G935F. As far as I understand these kernels are for Exynos only. Good luck if you are searching for a good development scene with the snapdragon version. There are a few ROMs and Kernels i think. I have no idea about quality.