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Hey all, I wanted to start Android app development as a hobby. I am very comfortable with C++, but I know that Java is necessary for Android. What parts of it will be important, and could you please recommend a good tutorial? Thanks.
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perseus0807 said:
Hey all, I wanted to start Android app development as a hobby. I am very comfortable with C++, but I know that Java is necessary for Android. What parts of it will be important, and could you please recommend a good tutorial? Thanks.
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I have been trying to get into making live wallpapers myself. I have been asking everywhere about what I need to learn to make a live wallpaper. I have no idea where to start or what to learn. I have posted several threads and ask devs in the market to & no one wants to tell you anything about where to start or what to use. I really don't understand why no one wants to help, especially here on a Developers website. Hopefully we can get a Senior member to give us some good tips.

Development?

When is our device going to get some love???
:-(
When are we going to get the good stuff for our phones lol??
BTW don't flame me.... I'm just asking a simple question!
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there arent alot of Devs on this phone, I dont know who is cooking something up.

Why do you think that is? Why do u think there are not alot of devs for this device?
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Sammydr10 said:
Why do you think that is? Why do u think there are not alot of devs for this device?
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Its because not too many people purchased this device since it is pretty much a vibrant with 4g and because of all of the new phones such as the g2x and galaxy s2 which are taking even more people away from this phone.
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I think we will eventually get some love. There are a LOT of sgs4g phones out there--and with a few tweaks this is a great phone.
Our problem is not many (there are a couple) established developers have this phone. The recent wave of new phones--like the g2x--have stolen alot of the thunder since some of these are easier to develop for and the latest darlings of the CM crews.
The other, and maybe main, issue we have is a very quirky architecture that is really alot different than the vibrant--or else we would probably be benefitting from all of the development on that phone already. This is sort of on hold though until we get a final version of CWM.
This is our biggest roadblock right now. Krylon and drhonk are working on it (they both rock and my hat is off to them for their work on this!)--but they both have other projects for other phones that are keeping them really busy.
I wish there was some way we could help them out. But the issues with it are highly technical and out of reach for most of us at this time. Hopefully some new and fledgling devs will step up in the near future.
After we have a working cwm and rom manager I have hopes for some nice vibrant ports, nice themes, and original development. This might take some time to sort out and in the meantime I am studying edify scripting and learning what I can. ;-)
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Harhar321 said:
in the meantime I am studying edify scripting and learning what I can. ;-)
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Cool.... What's Edify Scripting though? Lol
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Mobile Development

Hi to all who read this. Thank you in advance for any and all feedback. I'm going to start college soon and I'm going to take Mobile Development....Bachelors in Science. So here are my questions......In your own opinions is this a good choice?.......I'm curious to know what field I need to go into so I can develop roms, kernels. Bootloaders, etc.....that's what I'm really wanting to learn. From what I've read it seems this is the right choice....but I want real personal experience and knowledge to help me here. If I'm wrong could u plz give me some info on what I really need to study....thank u again.
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[Q] i want to make a rom?

ok guys imma try and make a rom for g2x with sense3.0, so i need alittle help, where do i start? and its there a thread i can read on that will help me alittle?
and if anyone will let me use their patches and stuff i guess we can both take credit? but i (and who ever helps me out) will be the first to make sencce for g2x

Try Google.
Also, not trying be a ****... Okay maybe a little... But proof read your sh*t, man... Some of your posts are damn near incomprehensible...
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Wtf are u talking about?
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sounds like he wants to try and learn how to develop rom's, with no experience in development. but he's wanting to build a rom for the g2x that incorporates sense3.0? that's what i interpreted.
So someone needs to go to the book store,library, or Google and start reading on Linux, java (more app based from what i read), and other books on code that's used in mobile development
correct me if I'm wrong anywhere in this response.

cwa542 said:
Wtf are u talking about?
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That's exactly what I am talking about... How many times have you written something like that after someone responds to your posts? I get that you want to do a sense rom for the g2x... It also seems like you want to use others work(and give them credit, of course). Hop on to amazon or head to your local bookstore, there are whole sections about android development...
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I'm just talking about them giving me advice,
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Expert developers are EXTREMELY challenged to port over platforms from other brands. To think that your going to do it with no experience is never gonna happen. Start easy, download CM source code, try to modify things, and maybe in a few months you can put something out for us. If making a rom was that easy, we would all do it.

Were do I start!!!!
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get a book and read.
start with learning JAVA (this is if you have no programming experience)
once your familiar with JAVA and feel comfortable reading JAVA code and writting in JAVA.
then go get a book on ANDROID Development. I found a great book to learn about android development called " Hello Android", by the first 15 pages i had already made a somewhat complete Sudoku app, not out of interest but as this was the lesson in the book i was on.
No one can help you until you want to help your self, not trying to be a dbag but sounds like your wanting someone to walk you through step by step and through previous experience trying to verbally or explain to someone through text on to do something as complex as coding with them having little or no knowledge on the fundamentals and basics is/will be very difficult and frustrating for you and the person trying to guide you.
ps... might not hurt if you learn how to read/write/understand linux as android is based ontop of linux from my understanding

cwa542 said:
Were do I start!!!!
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Come on dude! Do you ever read people's comment?
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cwa542 said:
Were do I start!!!!
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http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html
good luck.

Google is your friend!
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BobbyDukes707 said:
Try Google.
Also, not trying be a ****... Okay maybe a little... But proof read your sh*t, man... Some of your posts are damn near incomprehensible...
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I have become fluent in the gibberish kids use today.
Where or were? Imma or I am or I'm?
It really makes you question the quality of the public education system. I am not a grammar nazi, but some days I just have to shake my head.

jcbofkc said:
I have become fluent in the gibberish kids use today.
Where or were? Imma or I am or I'm?
It really makes you question the quality of the public education system. I am not a grammar nazi, but some days I just have to shake my head.
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I thought his keyboard is broken or something.
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Dude you are talkin about a near impossible feat! your first rom porting sense to a non sense phone? Not gonna happen man... come on you gotta be realistic... you might wanna START making a variation of stock... since that would be the easiest....

Porting Firefox OS for our device

Here is a link for porting Firefox OS
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Porting
If anyone can try this it will be awesome.

alwinaugustin said:
Here is a link for porting Firefox OS
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Porting
If anyone can try this it will be awesome.
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that OS is really lame... TRUST ME

Well, I can take a look at it when I find time.
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rodero95 said:
Well, I can take a look at it when I find time.
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Putting legs in two boats Will lead us to tear in parts,we cant reach to our goal better take one boat and sail till we reach shore.We must put our time in fixing cm A5 issues ist.
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More like legs in 3 boats. Rodero said he's already working on Ubuntu. Better to finish something first before starting something else hm?
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Let him do what he want guys !!!!
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can not finish that can not be begin or blocked
this is the hard law of development
and back from doing a lot of good
You should know set aside to devote to something else
evolution a friend
if you do not understand is that you did not invent anything

true. well said lola. if rodero feels his job for cm is done. so he's done and move on with something else. something new. if he wish to do everything, let him. he's working for free btw.maybe by doing something else, can help him generate ideas to fix cm.. why not shoot for it. learning is in everything isn't it. well.. imo.. peace.
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Well, the key to learn about everything in the world is to be curious about it. As I've always said, I just do all this things because one day I was curious about it and though "why not giving it a try?" and that is how things start on my life.
Also, I don't think it is good to just stuck to one thing and only work on that since when you are working on something but you feel you cannot get forward by yourself, why stuck there instead of trying something new and maybe learn something new which maybe you could use to fix the first problem? If you don't move on, you'll get frustrated and only then is when you'll abandon the project (does this sound familiar to you? )
Curiosity is the engine of the world guys! If you are curious about something, why not try to make it yourself instead of waiting for someone else to do it for you?
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rodero95 said:
Well, the key to learn about everything in the world is to be curious about it. As I've always said, I just do all this things because one day I was curious about it and though "why not giving it a try?" and that is how things start on my life.
Also, I don't think it is good to just stuck to one thing and only work on that since when you are working on something but you feel you cannot get forward by yourself, why stuck there instead of trying something new and maybe learn something new which maybe you could use to fix the first problem? If you don't move on, you'll get frustrated and only then is when you'll abandon the project (does this sound familiar to you? )
Curiosity is the engine of the world guys! If you are curious about something, why not try to make it yourself instead of waiting for someone else to do it for you?
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I agree even if you leave us on half way afterall am not paying you anything you can carry on with whatever you like every developer gives us ray of hope by initiating development for our devices so we relay on that hope though it is all free
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What
posting boot???

any news? our device is starting to become too old for android, maybe firefoxOS can bring some speed!

our devices are too old, users are less, not to mention the developers
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