Hi guys.
Im looking for a good tutorial for 3 days now, like you know.. whats the best way to get a fully unlocked orginial htc european schubert device?
There are all these custom rom's (which is just awesome.)
But there are also some people that would like to keep the original rom.. maybe slightly modded so its unlocked and doesnt relock.
I know there are Posts like this that explain how to go to Mango + JB .. but they are like 5months old and for some it doesnt work anymore.
Isnt it possible to just have the latest stock rom with a little "customization" (e.g. unlock / prevent relock) in it ?
greets dev
Stock ROMs *cannot* fully unlock right now. It's quite simply not posible at this point. I'm working on it, but don't expect any breakthrough in the next few weeks. This will take time.
In the meantime, a stock ROM can interop-unlock just fine. To interop-unlock, and maintain interop-unlock, you need to have firmware version *.*.4XXXX.* or lower. Your firmware version goes up when you install HTC updates, so don't do that! There's one HTC update that comes with Mango, if you're upgrading from NoDo. It will break apps like TouchXplorer, but it can still be used for interop-unlock (although many interop apps won't work).
Note that I'm assuming your phone is dev-unlocked in some way. If you don't have either an AppHub account or a ChevronWP7 Labs token, you can't interop-unlock either. Making the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker work is hard now, even if you flash back to an ancient version ROM that can use it (like 7004).
Anyhow, after upgrading to Mango, install the HTC Interop Unlock XAP (it's in Heathcliff74's Interop Unlock guide thread on the dev&hacking sub-forum) and follow the instructions in the thread. That will interop-unlock the phone, enabling the installing of as many apps as you want, and allowing the use of apps with ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES in their manifests. It will also prevent automatic relocking of your phone.
That's as close to fully unlocked as a stock ROM can get right now. If you need to be more unlocked, there are three options: Install a custom ROM (probably requires downgrading your bootloader to SPL v3.1 or lower), wait however long it takes to figure out how to do full unlock on a stock ROM, or wait the relatively short time for Heahtcliff74 to finish and publish WP7 Root Tools v0.9, which will support HTC and will allow you to elevate any app to root (not the same as full-unlock - you still won't be able to run homebrew or ported WinMo EXEs, for example - but fairly close).
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Hi people,
I've tried searching for an answer to my problem but had no luck...
I'm new to wp7. I've just bought a htc mozart on the internet and after receiving it I realized it was originally a telstra (au) model but it is now running Mango 7714.WM7_Main(DFT). I knew nothing about wp7 roms or jailbreak. I realize now this is a custom unbranded mango rom. I wanna revert to the original telstra rom and then update officially to the carrier's mango. I've searched and found this thread with branded roms for the mozart: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915827
I use mac and not pc. Is it safe to install a branded nodo rom on my mango DFT mozart? If so, how do I do this on my mac? Can I unlock my mozart later with no problems?
anyone there?
It's safe to do so, yes. However, the flashing tool is written or Windows. You can borrow a friend's Windows system to do it, install Windows on your Mac (directly or in a VM), or try using wine (Win32 compatibility software for POSIX systems, including OS X) to run the flashing tool. I don't know which of these is easiest; it's probably not Wine but that's the only one that doesn't require somebody having a copy of Windows (Wine is free and open-source; http://winehq.org).
As for "unlock" that really depends what you mean.
If you want to developer-unlock it, using an AppHub account or ChevronWP7 Labs, yes you can.
If it's SIM-locked and you need to SIM-unlock it, that should also be possible; talk to your mobile operator.
If you want interop-unlock (install and run high-privilege apps in Mango) then no, using the official upgrade will make that (currently) impossible. We're working on an interop-unlock (so-named because it makes it possible to install and run XAPs with ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES) for HTC phones that are already on Mango and/or have received the official update, but so far no such luck.
If you want to use the unlocked bootloader to possibly install a custom ROM in the future, be careful - the official Mango update modifies the bootloader in such a way that HSPL (required for custom ROMs) can't be used. Again, people are working on fixing this or providing a way to downgrade, but it's unclear whether this is possible at present without physically opening up the phone.
I am wanting to interop unlock my hd7 running latest mango. i tried the htc unlock xap and the connection setup app (which tells to use interop unlock as country) but to no avail. has anyone been able to get interop unlocked on htc hd7 ?
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I am wanting to interop unlock my hd7 running latest mango. i tried the htc unlock xap and the connection setup app (which tells to use interop unlock as country) but to no avail. has anyone been able to get interop unlocked on htc hd7 ?
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Do you have it developer unlocked first?
HTC Have 2 OEM Update after Mango
if you updated your Phone with Second OEM Update, you can not Interop Unlock your phone
yes i have a dev account from app hub.
how do i find out if im running second oem? do you have the build number handy? the os version i have is 7.10.7720.68
It's not the OS build number, people. HTC controls the firmware number, not the OS number (that's Microsoft code). 7720.68 just means the RTM release of Mango. I swear, I write this so often...
If the third digit grouping of your firmware starts with 4 - that is, if your firmware version matches *.*.4XXXX.* - or lower, you can use the HTC Interop Unlock XAP. It *might* even be possible with *.*.50XXX.*, but I don't think so, and it certainly isn't possible with *.*.51XXX.* or newer.
well that helps a lot, ya my firmware shows 51004. so are there any workarounds as of yet?
The only work-around I know of is to downgrade. You can roll back a Zune restore point from before the firmware update(s) was installed, interop-unlock, and then reinstall the updates if you want (I've elected to semi-permanently keep my phone a few versions outdated on firmware). You could also flash a stock ROM that includes an older firmware. Be aware, however, that either option will lose some data - everything newer than the backup if you restore, everything on the phone if you flash a stock ROM.
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The only work-around I know of is to downgrade. You can roll back a Zune restore point from before the firmware update(s) was installed, interop-unlock, and then reinstall the updates if you want (I've elected to semi-permanently keep my phone a few versions outdated on firmware). You could also flash a stock ROM that includes an older firmware. Be aware, however, that either option will lose some data - everything newer than the backup if you restore, everything on the phone if you flash a stock ROM.
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Hey thanks for the information, I was wondering if there were any guides you can point me to on how to flash from a stock ROM. I have an HTC HD7.
Thanks again for your help. i know sometimes its tiring explaining the same thing over and over, but it is much appreciated.
Go to the HD7 ("Schubert") portion of the XDA-Devs wiki (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki). I'm pretty sure you can find the download links for stock ROMs there. You could also try the HD7-specific forum section. You'll download a tool called a RUU (ROM Update Utility) that will have some image files (extensions like .NBH and .NB) along with it. You put the phone in bootloader mode (four bars of different color - you have to boot the phone while holding the Volume Down button). It should have yellow text, and at the bottom should say "Serial". Connect the phone to USB. Your PC will need to install a driver (normally this will happen automatically, if not, use Device Manager to tell the computer to search Windows Update for the driver). Once the driver is installed, the "Serial" will be replaced by "USB". You can now run the RUU program.
I *strongly* recommend creating a backup first! The RUU will wipe all data on the phone, and if the flash fails for whatever reason, you'll be unable to boot the phone again.
Ok Thanks, That was helpful. i read a few guides and I think Im ready to try. i just wanted to ask a quick question before diving in. Hope you dont mind. Some threads make refrences to certain Bootloaders being unable to go through the downgrade process (by flashing a Stock Rom). Is this correct? My bootloader version is:
5.10.2250.0(132968)
If it doesnt matter than are there any other things that would prevent me from doing this process?
And one more question and I promise to leave you alone lol. I plan on backing up my phone before beginning, but if the flash fails for whatever reason and the phone is unable to boot again as you warned, will I still be able to connect it to Zune and restore my backup? Thanks again. Hopefullyone day I can give more to the community once I get used to it.
Booting the phone while holding the Camera button will put it in backup/restore mode. If you connect the phone to the PC while it is in this mode, and the Zune software is running, it should automaticlaly try to restore.
Your bootloader (SPL) version is too high to install HSPL (needed for custom ROMs), and it's high enough that it won't automatically downgrade just by installing a stock ROM. However, you should be able to install the other parts of a stock ROM (in particular, the firmware) just fine.
If needed, there are a couple ways to downgrade the SPL; search the dev&hacking sub-forum for info. I would generally recommend GoldCard, but that will require a little bit of equipment. Apparently, "SLSPL" flashing will allow you to downgrade the SPL safely as well, though I haven't tried it. These are mostly for preparing to install a custom ROM, though - stock ROMs should be installable on any SPL version.
it not work with my trophy verizon
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Booting the phone while holding the Camera button will put it in backup/restore mode. If you connect the phone to the PC while it is in this mode, and the Zune software is running, it should automaticlaly try to restore.
Your bootloader (SPL) version is too high to install HSPL (needed for custom ROMs), and it's high enough that it won't automatically downgrade just by installing a stock ROM. However, you should be able to install the other parts of a stock ROM (in particular, the firmware) just fine.
If needed, there are a couple ways to downgrade the SPL; search the dev&hacking sub-forum for info. I would generally recommend GoldCard, but that will require a little bit of equipment. Apparently, "SLSPL" flashing will allow you to downgrade the SPL safely as well, though I haven't tried it. These are mostly for preparing to install a custom ROM, though - stock ROMs should be installable on any SPL version.
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Hey thanks again! Im going to try it out today, cross fingers, Ill let you know how it all went. I appreciate the help.
Well?? Did it work? Would really like to know before I attempt the same
Thanks
did it work ????
I have an HTC HD7S and I was wondering how or if it was possible to revert it back to nodo.
If you have a NoDo backup saved on your computer from when you updated to Mango, jsut restore that. Otherwise, you'll need to find a stock ROM for your model of phone and flash that. I know there are a lot of stock ROMs for the HD7, hopefully the same is also true of the HD7S (they aren't interchangable though!!).
Out of curiosity, what's the goal here? There might be an easier way to do this.
goal
My goal here is to have the ability to flash the Deepshining rom and one of the steps in doing so is reverting to nodo. The whole reason im doing this though is because i originally wanted to put homebrew apps on my HD7S and when Chevron came out unsuccessful the alternative was flashing the Deepshining rom but it says I need to revert to nodo and even if I get that done I don't know if the HD7S can handle the rom because I havent seen any videos or threads detailing that it worked on one and didnt brick the phone.
You only need to downgrade the bootloader, not the full ROM. That will allow you to install HSPL, the unlocked bootloader for HTC devices. This in turn allows custom ROMs.
I'm sure there are custom ROMs for the HD7S, but they are definitely not interchangable with the custom ROMs for the HD7. You have to use the ROM specific to your hardware.
The NoDo ROM for the AT&T HD7S, if you still want it, is on the wiki (link at the top of the page, then go to the HD7, then Stock Roms).
I have a developer unlocked TMO HTC HD7 on the lates 8107 update. I have been searching a lot but can't find a way to add more accent colors to my device. I would really like to add the Nokia Blue on my device. I know that Samsung Windows Phone users have a dedicated thread for that. Its just that I can't find a similar method for the HTC devices.
Edit: After a few more tries,. I found Advanced Config Tool 1.5 ( I have also attached the xap below)
However I noticed in the manifest file that it needs Interop Unlock Services. So i removed that line.
I can run the application but cant change the accent color. It says unable to apply. Any help ??
Well, if you want an app that requires interop-unlock to work, you'll need to be interop-unlocked. Removing ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES so you can install an app is kind of like buying a car without an engine so its affordable: great, now you've got a car that can't drive (or an app that can't do anything high-privilege).
At this point, you've got two options. Either get your phone interop-unlocked (it's entirely possible for the TMO-US HD7; mine is) or install a custom ROM. The first option will probably require downgrading the firmware. The second option will probably require downgrading the bootloader. Both of these are possible, both have certain difficulties, and there are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches. Personally, I stuck with the stock ROM, interop-unlocked and running WP7 Root Tools.
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Well, if you want an app that requires interop-unlock to work, you'll need to be interop-unlocked. Removing ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES so you can install an app is kind of like buying a car without an engine so its affordable: great, now you've got a car that can't drive (or an app that can't do anything high-privilege).
At this point, you've got two options. Either get your phone interop-unlocked (it's entirely possible for the TMO-US HD7; mine is) or install a custom ROM. The first option will probably require downgrading the firmware. The second option will probably require downgrading the bootloader. Both of these are possible, both have certain difficulties, and there are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches. Personally, I stuck with the stock ROM, interop-unlocked and running WP7 Root Tools.
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Can you please tell me how to Interop Unlock it...I have a developer unlock phone so can sideload max 3 apps
First, you'll need to downgrade the firmware to *.*.4XXX.* or lower. If you've got a backup old enough, you could try just restoring that backup. If not, you could try either flashing just a radio/firmware update (without resetting the phone, and no, I have no idea if this will work) or flashing a full stock ROM with the older firmware (which will wipe your phone). You can find links to HTC released ROMs in the XDA-Developers Wiki; look under the HD7 (Schubert) section.
After you've downgraded the firmware, you need to install the HTC Interop Unlock v2.XAP from Heathcliff74 (check the Interop Unlock thread on the dev&hacking sub-forum) and follow his instructions (it'll use Connection Setup to interop-unlock your phone).
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First, you'll need to downgrade the firmware to *.*.4XXX.* or lower. If you've got a backup old enough, you could try just restoring that backup. If not, you could try either flashing just a radio/firmware update (without resetting the phone, and no, I have no idea if this will work) or flashing a full stock ROM with the older firmware (which will wipe your phone). You can find links to HTC released ROMs in the XDA-Developers Wiki; look under the HD7 (Schubert) section.
After you've downgraded the firmware, you need to install the HTC Interop Unlock v2.XAP from Heathcliff74 (check the Interop Unlock thread on the dev&hacking sub-forum) and follow his instructions (it'll use Connection Setup to interop-unlock your phone).
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my spl/bootloader version is 5.12.2250....how can I flash a full ROM with an old firmware ??
It may be possible to flash an older stock ROM (check the Wiki for links to official ROMs) without downgrading your bootloader, although I've not tried. HTC phones use a tool called RUU (ROM Update Utility.exe) to flash. Most ROM downloads will come with a pre-configured RUU (it's a tiny file compared to the ROM image).
Alternatively, you can downgrade your bootloader. The two best-known ways to do this are using a GoldCard (hook a USB SD cardreader with a special file on the card to your phone) or use SLSPL (a way to unlock the SPL version so you can overwrite it with a lower SPL from any old stock ROM). The instructions for both approaches are available on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum.
GoodDayToDie said:
It may be possible to flash an older stock ROM (check the Wiki for links to official ROMs) without downgrading your bootloader, although I've not tried. HTC phones use a tool called RUU (ROM Update Utility.exe) to flash. Most ROM downloads will come with a pre-configured RUU (it's a tiny file compared to the ROM image).
Alternatively, you can downgrade your bootloader. The two best-known ways to do this are using a GoldCard (hook a USB SD cardreader with a special file on the card to your phone) or use SLSPL (a way to unlock the SPL version so you can overwrite it with a lower SPL from any old stock ROM). The instructions for both approaches are available on the Dev&Hacking sub-forum.
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thanks....let me take a look
I had a HD7 and the charging port went so for 5 bucks I got a new one. I unlocked my old Hd7, but I have to idea how I did it, since it was so long ago.
What is the easiest way to get a full unlocked device these days?
Links would be appreciated, thanks!
Full-unlock requires a custom ROM. You'll almost certainly need to downgrade the bootloader (see the GoldCard threads on the dev& hacking sub-forum), then install HSPL and flash a custom ROM.
If you just want root-unlock (ability to run apps with max privileges on a stock ROM), that's also possible. You'll have to flash an older stock ROM, one with bootloader / firmware version 4.x or lower. You'll also need dev-unlock, so if you don't have an AppHub account (or a friend with one) this approach won't be practical. Anyhow, once you're dev-unlocked on firmware *.*.4XXXX.* or lower, install Heathcliff74's HTC Interop Unlock XAP and follow the instructions, then install WP7 Root Tools v0.9 and follow its instructions. After that, you'll be able to run almost all the homebrew apps and have read/write access to your whole device.