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ROM Flashing Leftovers?

Has anyone else noticed leftover apps or info from your previous ROM that should not be in your current ROM? I am noticing this after the GB leak and the GB leaked based ROMs.
This is my process whenever I flash a ROM.
Boot into hboot and flash radio if neccessary.
Boot existing ROM and remove radio file from root of SD card.
Boot into recovery and clear data/factory reset. Wipe cache. Wipe Dalvik. Wipe battery stats. Fix permissions.
Flash ROM in recovery.
Flash kernel in recovery if neccessary.
(I don't use any type of app backup like Titanium or something like that. I just don't mind putting my apps back on because I don't have much to begin with.)
Now some examples, I flashed Teslacoil which I was running for about a week. It has a file manger app that I did not download. Then I flashed dhemke17's plain debloated GB ROM. The File Manager app remained in there which I thought was a little weird because he didn't say he was going to include it but I didn't pay much attention to it.
Then I flashed jcases GB ROM and played with it a little and noticed I couldn't lock GPS for the weather clock. Flashed back to dhemke's ROM and couldn't get a lock with the clock either but the first time it locked fine.
It seems like to me when flashing between other chef's roms it may be carrying over apps and/or info. This might be why we have been seeing extremes from both sides of some have been having great experiences and others it doesn't work for them at all.
Maybe flashing back to stock first before flashing to a new rom may he in order, I know we had to do that with some of the old skool winmo phones (remember those days?).
Anyhow, has anyone noticed these types of instances. Those of you who may be flashing to another's rom try to take notice and see if anything carries over.
Thanks gang!
And just to be sure, I do a wipe everytime I flash someone else's ROM.
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This also might be why some devs have been seeing their work in others Roms without being given credit.
Just guessing on this one.
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I also noticed, I don't like Sense so I normally change some of files to get a Sense-reduced experience from the GB Roms since we don't have a Senseless GB rom yet. I use Root Explorer to change the extension to .bak, when flashing the rom and doing this process for the new rom it would have the new file and still have the .bak file. So it would have like a Rosie.APK file and a Rosie.APK.bak file.
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I've also noticed something similar.. I also wipe on every install even updates to the rom i'm currently running. What I noticed is that after about five to ten minutes the wallpaper will change back to a custom one that I have saved on my sd card. Also when I turn on wifi it still remembers my password and connects to my network. to me if it isn't wiping these things it may not be wiping things that will conflict with any changes to my rom.
Now what I do is wipe data factory reset 3x, wipe cache, wipe davlick 2x, wipe battery stats ..thats clears out the issue I explained above.

To my knowledge that is just the built in restore Froyo has. You probably click to allow Google to store/backup your apps on setup, right?

Built in restore or you are not wiping.
Devs are seeing their work elsewhere because "devs" are asses.
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jcase said:
Built in restore or you are not wiping.
Devs are seeing their work elsewhere because "devs" are asses.
Sent from my LG Revolution
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OK so why am I seeing the .bak files when I change roms? It only does it from the rom right before it. Like I said I flashed from Tesla to dhemke and it had the file manager app. Then I flashed to your rom this was your first GB leak. It did not have the file manager but the weatherclock was not finding my current location. I flashed back to dhemke and this time there was no file manager app and weatherclock would not find current location. Flashed back to Tesla then back again to your rom jcase because you updated yours and file manager was there and weatherclock locked.
If the devs are being asses that's fine I was just throwing that out there, but I am sure our phones are not complete wiping when going from gb rom to gb rom. Like I said I wipe everything everytime because I don't have much crap to begin with and I am used to reinstalling my crap from the winmo days.
Try to flash and see if anything carries over.
And the wallpaper and wifi settings like others suggested is from your g account.
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This happens when you don't wipe and clear cache
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Well I do wipe everything before each install via recovery. Read the first post for exact steps I take when flashing. When it boots it seems fresh, I have to resync my gmail account, download and install market apps, reinstall my apps that I sideload via sd card, etc. Just the apps that are in the core rom like in the system/apps folder are still there. I was just on chingys gingeritis version IV then flashed and wiped to version VI. On version IV I changed a few files to add .bak extension to get a senseless version like the Rosie.apk. After I flashed to version VI I went into system/apps and the .bak files were still there.
Again to my knowledge this is only happening with GB based roms. If I am wiping the wrong way please let me know that is why I posted my steps in the first post but that is how I wiped and flashed this whole time. The only thing I can think of is wiping, flash the rom, then wipe again. Or wipe via the settings menus.
Before someone flashes, could they try editing a core app in the system/apps folder with a .bak extension. Then wipe and install your ROM, and see if that .bak file is still there? Thank you.
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From looking at the updater-script file of the rom I flashed (1.13.605.7 Debloat/Deodex), it does a rm -rf /system
If your rom's updater-script file does not do that, then you should contact the head dev and ask them to add it in.
If it does have that, then there is definitely something going wrong to cause files to be left behind since that command is literally, "force recursive remove /system"
JM2c
P.S. BTW, wiping does not erase anything in /system. A rom that includes a file manager will have it in /system.
So the rom you flashed after the one with the file manager didn't erase /system before flashing its changes..

[Q] Ringtones gone....

First post... let me itroduce myself first.
I'm Stu....I've been lurking here for years and finally unlocked my first phone!
I'm currently using the SideKick4g, and this foru was a HUGE help in the unlocking process. Thanks!!!
I think I may have gotten a little crazy with the deleting, however. Everything is running fine at this point other than when I try to change ring/notification settings. Trying to access things gives me a force close every time.
I'm guessing I deleted something crucial. Anybody know what it may have been and how I can go about fixing this and/or getting around the situation? Will a simple program such as ringdroid replace whatever I got rid of? Shold I just flash a custom ROM?
Thanks in advance guys!
Stu

Let me add that I rooted with SuperOneClick, and used RootExplorer for ditching my bloatware. Hope that helps a little!
Stu

What did you remove? Ringtones are stored in /system/media/, do they just not show up when trying to set it, or does something else happens? Are you missing your stock ringtones, or just your custom ones?

When I go to settings>sound...selecting eithr phone ringtone or notification ringtone causes my force close.
I think maybe I deleted my system/media thinking it was the stock media player
Not that I'm too bummed about it. The stock rings are all just crappy versions of the "T-jingle".
I'd just like to be able to change stuff up

Well, looks like you took a risk and it came back to bite you. Reflash your ROM and try again.

Well...there's where the problem lies. I've never flashed a ROM. I'm sure I can handle it....just never done it.
And if I do need to flash a new ROM anyways, I feel like I should just flash a custom ROM. The gingerclone looks pretty nice. Does this delete my original ROM all together in the process? Are custom ROMs free of bloat?

That will wipe everything, so you should make a backup beforehand. yes, custom roms are almost always free of bloat, GingerClonev2 is only 124MB, where the stock rom is over 200MB. There are a few issues we're still working out, but it's pretty steady. otherwise, Teddy is releasing an update to an older ROM sometime soon as well, so I'd be on the lookout for that.

Okay cool. I'm gonna do some quick research and figure out how to do this.
What's the best way to save my original ROM to my desktop on my computer?
I'm just worried about killing my phone completely at this point.....

If you have CWM, use the backup menu, which uses Nandroid to backup everything by dumping everything on your phone into images. This all dumps onto your SDcard in the clockworkmod folder.
You can't brick your phone using CWM, you can only do that using ODIN, and only if you're not following directions/being intentionally stupid

Okay cool....downloading ROM Manager right now. I'm sure I'll post back with a few questions shortly!
Once the CWM/ROM manager has backed everything up....i should be able to copy the backup to my desktop? same thing with installing a new ROM
? Desktop to SD card?

BAhhhhhh.
I clicked on backup current rom and sent it into recovery mode.
Sorry about my lack of knowhow. Hopefully this all helps some others as well.....
I guess my biggest questions right now.... how do I get my original rom to a folder on my desktop, and once I download gingerclone, how do i move that from my desktop to sd to running it?

Yeah, copy the clockworkmod folder from your sdcard to your desktop, that'll copy everything off. I wouldn't suggest Rom Manager, many people have problems with that CWM. Look in the Dev forum for the CWM thread, and use that one.

In recovery mode, there should be a backup and restore menu. use the backup option, and then copy the clockworkmod folder from your sdcard to your desktop. that's your backup.

Okay. I plugged in my phone to the computer, and dragged a copy of the entire clockworkmod folder to my desktop.
Gingerclone is downloaded. Drag it to my SD? anywhere specific? or just on it?
On my desktop now is: folder/download, .recoverychecpoint(1KB), .salted_hash(1KB), .settings(1KB), and .settings2(1KB)
This is my backup correct?

I lost rom manager/root explorer.
After clearing stuff out and rebooting...it rebooted to the original rom with none of my added apps.
Can't download anything either at this point.
HELP!
Download manager keeps stopping and forces closed.
I reboot into recovery...and my options are:
reboot system now
reinstall packages
delete all user data
delete cache data
If I try to reinstall packages, I get" E: failed to open /mnt/internal_sd/update.zip(no such file or directory)
E: signature verification failed.
I'm in over my head now. Anyone out there maybe wanna help walk me thorough this on AIM or google chat or anything?

Which rom did you flash?

I tried flashing yours....but nothing. It's on my SD card right now
It just boots up to the original sidekick home/os.

You probably need to reroot or another update. Zip
Edit: actually what it sounds like you did was something similiar to what i did with a samsung galaxy s i deleted a bunch of apps and the i did a data wipe and factory restore without flashing my custom firmware through cwm and when it factory resetted it was real buggy from all the missing apps so u will have to odin
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I can get into download mode....but ODIN won't recognize my phone. ID:COM stays blank

Try installing the Galaxy S drivers?

[Q] Help needed - Messaging FS after ICS

Hi,
I backed up my phone with Titanium and after updating to 4.0.3 tried to restore data only, from that moment - messaging force closing.
what can I do ?
thanks

Clear any messaging related data, reboot, and then see what happens.

Thanks but it's the same - the app loads and than crashes immediately,
Can I re-download the apk somewhere ?
I know it's core element - but maybe it can be extracted from the whole update ?

Well just to reiterate make sure you wipe all relevant system apps in titanium as that should do it (just want to be sure ).
But you could reflash the rom again, or part of the rom.
And yes you could pull the apps from the rom and install them without reflashing (though you will have to use titanium to make it a system app probably).
Oh yeah you could try wiping the dalvik cache.

tried wiping the dalvik cache did not help. how can I flash only the messaging app ?

Shakty1 said:
tried wiping the dalvik cache did not help. how can I flash only the messaging app ?
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Well I haven't done such a thing for a while but when I did a similar thing I did it like this:
1. Get full rom zip
2. Open zip with 7-Zip (or similar program).
3. Delete anything you don't want to be flashed again (I guess in your case nearly everything)
4. Flash
Note: I said open the zip, not extract it.
Can't guarantee this will work though I would personally just do a full wipe, flash the whole rom again, and be careful what you restore (i.e. don't restore system data).

Never use Ti to restore data after changing roms. It's the first rule of Flash Club.

Backup - few question

Hello, it's me again with new set of questions
My device is GT-I9001
1) What is Nandroid backup? Is it complete system image backup like Acronis True Image, created with CWM, because i have CWM installed?
2) I am planning to install CM9 on my device, is it possible to restore my apps completely with settings, and games completely with passed levels with Titanium (I've got Pro version). I need to know if any problem could arise when restoring? I also read not to restore system apps, my question is why?
3) Am I installing CM9 via odin or via cwm? I saw two files gapps and cm9, which is firstly installed?
4) How to wipe before installing custom ROM?
5) Could you find me Stock ROM for my phone, I've got no luck finding it? Here is PDA and CSC
http://fotkica.com/slika.php?slika=256965_167852444_SC20120720-222332.png
Thanks in advance, I am especially thankful if you answer me the questions detailed/for noobs...

TwinHeadedEagle said:
Hello, it's me again with new set of questions
My device is GT-I9001
1) What is Nandroid backup? Is it complete system image backup like Acronis True Image, created with CWM, because i have CWM installed?
2) I am planning to install CM9 on my device, is it possible to restore my apps completely with settings, and games completely with passed levels with Titanium (I've got Pro version). I need to know if any problem could arise when restoring? I also read not to restore system apps, my question is why?
3) Am I installing CM9 via odin or via cwm? I saw two files gapps and cm9, which is firstly installed?
4) How to wipe before installing custom ROM?
5) Could you find me Stock ROM for my phone, I've got no luck finding it? Here is PDA and CSC
http://fotkica.com/slika.php?slika=256965_167852444_SC20120720-222332.png
Thanks in advance, I am especially thankful if you answer me the questions detailed/for noobs...
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1. yes, it is complete system image backup (can be created using CWM)
2. yes, you can restore apps including their settings via titanium backup.
3. please read the installation guide for your device.
4. wiping can be done via CWM
5. find it on your device sub-forum.

1) Ok, I understand...
2) There is still more questions I asked...
3) I cannot ask there until 10 posts, and it's a bit unclear/confusing to me...
4) I know that, what I need to wipe. I figured it's system, cache and dalvik...
Is it needed to go into mounts and storage and to format system, data and cache...
Is sdcard and emmc needed to be wiped?
5) I already said I cannot find it...

Anyone knows the answers?

TwinHeadedEagle said:
Anyone knows the answers?
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2) if you just restore User-Apps you can not do anything wrong. Only if you restore Systemapps that are not for your new system.
If this happens you can easily restore your nandroid and start over again
3) Odin is more or less only for Stock Roms. CM is flashed through CWM
4) nope! If you do the Wipe, system, data etc. will be formated
5) you can easily find stock roms for almost every samsung device on sammobile.com

Thanks for clarifying
I searched every possible site, but still can't find my stock firmware

[Q] Modify Stock firmware through CWM backup mods

Hi, I have a GT-S7500 (wife's phone) with stock firmware and CWM. For some reason as soon as I root it, tried many different methods, camera and camcorder (and sometimes wireless) stop working. The thing is i don't really want to root this phone - but I really need to remove bloat Samsung and Italian TIM apps from it because the phone is unusable. (This means: freshly pushed stock firmware has 10-15 useless system processes and services running resulting in 70-80% of RAM usage)
So, I need to remove bloatware without rooting the phone. This is my starting point(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534349#post23343879)
I'd like to take the "system.ext4.tar" from my CWM backup, extract, manually remove unwanted apk and odex files from it repack and push it back to the phone. Sounds fun!
Q1: "system.ext4.tar" is a normal .tar file, right? so when I'm finished i just use tar (i'm on *nix)
Q2: The above guide does not say but what is the best way to "push" the system partition back to the phone? My idea was to substitute the "system.ext4.tar" with its modded version right in the CWM backup folder (calculate and change md5 checksum in nandroid.md5) and then execute a restore from CWM. You think that would work? Is there another way to do this(ODIN)?
thanks
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Android Kitchen
Ok, I found Android Kitchen(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246) and it resolved all my questions and doubts. You can take apart any rom (stock or custom) modify and repack it for CWM install. Thanx xda!