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Hi all,
I am looking for some help in configuring my Ubuntu Linux 7.10 system to access my HTC Touch.
When in WinXP I have a "Mobile Device" icon in "My Computer" from which I can access the storage area of my Touch. I want to find out how to do the same thing in Ubuntu so that I can copy new files onto and off of my Touch.
I am not interested in syncing anything with my device such as email, contacts, tasks etc. I just want to copy files to and from my pda!
Once I can do that, I will finally move over to Linux completely.
Any help would be very much appreciated as I've been searching for a solution for about a week now and found very litle helpful info.
Thanx!
Well, you can try WM5torage:
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1543
It turns your PDA into a mass storage device, so it'll be seen on ubuntu (or macOS, or Windows, or any other OS supporting USB storage) as a pendrive when connected. The downside is that way you can gain access only to the storage card, not the phone's main memory.
Take a look at this and maybe after that you can enjoy your freedom, I also considering going back to kubuntu.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Windo...h-open-sources-Server-Activesync/#entry876698
I got a love/ hate relationship with both the os
Greetz
SynCE
Synce + gnome-syncefs + FUR for XMMS access. Screw iTunes, xmms ftw!
Synce
Perfect instructions, though haven't figured out the msync tool. Well documented too.
Thanks everyone, I will try the links that you posted!
Htc touch ubuntu
Do not bother yourself with registration, just download it from here:
handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/WM5torage-Download-8397.html
Thank you for giving me an idea WM5torage is WORKING for me.
Hello All,
I recently bought my first smartphone here in Beijing. It's a dopod D805; I hope to upload media to it from my Vista-loaded PC.
The problem is Vista doesn't seem to recognize the device. I downloaded Windows Mobile Center (sorry if I've got the name wrong) but it doesn't seem to do anything. The CD that came with the device doesn't work (it keeps telling me to install Flash 8.0, which seems to imply the software on the disc was designed for pre-Vista systems).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Update:
The phone seems simply not to work on Vista. I am now dual-booting XP alongside Vista, and have had much more success using XP and Activesync.
A new newbie question:
I cannot copy files (music, PDFs) from my PC's HDD to the phone's drive. Each time I try I am told there is not enough free space on the drive. This is absurd, as there is nothing on the drive other than what came on it, and the files I'm trying to copy are quite small. What gives?
ouyanghai said:
Hello All,
I recently bought my first smartphone here in Beijing. It's a dopod D805; I hope to upload media to it from my Vista-loaded PC.
The problem is Vista doesn't seem to recognize the device. I downloaded Windows Mobile Center (sorry if I've got the name wrong) but it doesn't seem to do anything. The CD that came with the device doesn't work (it keeps telling me to install Flash 8.0, which seems to imply the software on the disc was designed for pre-Vista systems).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Welcome to the forum
Have a look in the Wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Love
Hope it helps,
Thanks for the response.
I checked that page before posting, but it doesn't seem to have much beyond the specs for my model.
All I want to do is install Pleco, and upload some MP3s/PDFs. When I plug the device in, I get the "bing bong" sound, but no new HD appears in My Computer. Since I'm running Vista, I can't use the bundled Activesync software.
Help?
i dont know if this will help but i cant sync my phone with xp unless i set my firewall to allow all.
if you go to my computer and look at your drives, does it not show you phone there as F: or whatever?
Right, it doesn't show a new drive. Note that I'm running Vista, not XP. I'm in the process of getting a dual-boot setup going, but I'm not there yet. Very frustrating.
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Update:
The phone seems simply not to work on Vista. I am now dual-booting XP alongside Vista, and have had much more success using XP and Activesync.
A new newbie question:
I cannot copy files (music, PDFs) from my PC's HDD to the phone's drive. Each time I try I am told there is not enough free space on the drive. This is absurd, as there is nothing on the drive other than what came on it, and the files I'm trying to copy are quite small. What gives?
this popped up earlier for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M6MwNto3MQ
seems pretty neat but their are a few major things thatd i love to see fixed or somehowfixed.
first mouse support and internet working which would then allow apps hopefully.
and then since its a live cd whenever youd reboot the pc or restart all the info wouldnt be saved. any way for this aswell?
just would like this livedroid stuff to evolve like the andriod device has
seems kind of cool but........... this is what the emulator is for in the android SDK.
well i hope that this will eventually lead or get 1 step closer to dualbooting android, say windows/android id really like, especially with access to droid apps
have you seen what ubuntu is working on? a modified kernel to run android apps along side of regular linux. imagine a 10 inch netbook running ubuntu mobile that also runs the same apps as your phone. pretty slick. I think i remember finding it via hackaday.com but i'm sure some googleing will turn it up
I'd love android as a main distro, they need to make it easier to compile C/C++ apps though, currently wrapping them in java slows development in my opinion.
The wrapper for ubuntu looks good but i wouldn't really try it, that's just me though
well im just really trying to figure out some way to get android onto my laptop, either with flashdrive or dual booting. Id love to have windows as one and then android as the other if I had access to the internet and app store, because if im traveling some of the android apps would be very useful and they are alot easier to access and find then searching google with windows.
so any chance of this?
Here you go
http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/livedroid/downloads/40887/livedroid_alpha.iso/
Created by Japanese developers, a bootable iso image (Live CD) of android for your computer.
Here's a translation of their webpage:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.jp%2Fforum%2Fforum.php%3Fforum_id%3D19230&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=
You should be able to open the iso with any iso program such as PowerISO, or Magic ISO, etc, then repack the iso with the same program (I was able to do it in Power ISO) Shouldn't be as difficult as opening a *.img
thanks for the links but thats the same thing I posted in topic. is their anyway to put this onto a USB and have the USB bootable?
I would deff use this IF
-it had internet working
-could save the data (maybe stored onto a flash drive or turned into an actual dual boot along windows etc...)
-and with the internet working I could download apps from market place, If I could dl apps id actually use this sometimes because some of the apps would be very very useful in public with Inet access such as where, or the information apps and itd just be plain fun
so any chance of these coming?
anyone thinking of messing with this?
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thanks for the links but thats the same thing I posted in topic. is their anyway to put this onto a USB and have the USB bootable?
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Have you tried googling it? Something along the lines of "how to create a bootable usb drive linux"
Here's one I found that seems to be the most user friendly, I can't verify if it works or not with this android build (although it should.)
http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/08/27/create-a-bootable-usb-drive-or-memory-card/
Why not just use a virtual machine, mounting the ISO?
It is not easy to modify android to support many wifi- or lan-devices..
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Why not just use a virtual machine, mounting the ISO?
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Because this is like when you're installing a fresh version of windows, or restoring.
You need the CD in the cd drive, then restart (as in shut down and start up)
But before it even starts loading windows, it loads the cd instead.
I think some computers can load from a USB drive, check your computer's BIOS
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Because this is like when you're installing a fresh version of windows, or restoring.
You need the CD in the cd drive, then restart (as in shut down and start up)
But before it even starts loading windows, it loads the cd instead.
I think some computers can load from a USB drive, check your computer's BIOS
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That doesn't really answer his question, does it?
I think you could easily mount the iso in e.g. VirtualBox/VMWare and start it virtualized. They seem to have included a standard linux kernel with enough modules
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That doesn't really answer his question, does it?
I think you could easily mount the iso in e.g. VirtualBox/VMWare and start it virtualized. They seem to have included a standard linux kernel with enough modules
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Sorry, I guess I really didn't know what he was talking about =X
But yeah you are right... hmm that should work, although I've never worked with
a VirtualBox
And in virtualbox.. You could use the "freezing"-function to freeze the state ;-) Only thing to fix is wlan/lan.
Wlan should be easier - the driver is named wlan.ko.
You need to compile a driver.
After playing around with it a bit, it's really only a novelty..
I'm running it on Virtual box.. and it seems rather pointless other then for "demonstrating android." The applications that come on it are, for the most part, inopperable and force close left and right. It doesn't seem like it has any practical use, because the available system memory is stuck at 14mb.
However, if this was developed into an installer, not just a live cd, then I could see it having a lot of potential. once you could utilize system resources it would be worth looking into developing drivers for.
For now it would be impractical and maybe impossible to establish a network connection.
Hi again guys!
Ever since the ATT update usb connecting to the phone in ubuntu is sporadic and unreliable. I can usually get my photos off of it. Sometime I can even get into a non-root basic filesystem as well
However this isn't my main problem. I want to root the phone and install custom ROM's etc... Tried the VMware and a version of windows and installed the samsung drivers to XP but have trouble (again) with the usb and VMware.
Any help would be appreciated.
Additionally I'm pretty pissed off about the update thing. I don't care about tethering per se but that underhanded **** is why I dumped microsoft in the first place. I'll dump ATT too and spend my money elsewhere.
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Hi again guys!
Ever since the ATT update usb connecting to the phone in ubuntu is sporadic and unreliable. I can usually get my photos off of it. Sometime I can even get into a non-root basic filesystem as well
However this isn't my main problem. I want to root the phone and install custom ROM's etc... Tried the VMware and a version of windows and installed the samsung drivers to XP but have trouble (again) with the usb and VMware.
Any help would be appreciated.
Additionally I'm pretty pissed off about the update thing. I don't care about tethering per se but that underhanded **** is why I dumped microsoft in the first place. I'll dump ATT too and spend my money elsewhere.
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Linux user here. I haven't had the problems you describe. I have lately been using ES File Explorer to copy to and from a shared folder on my desktop. avoiding the USB for file transfers all together. when I do connect via USB I usually use ' adb push' and 'adb pull' to move files around.
To Root your phone there is an 'update.zip' method that I used (no computer needed)
There is also a tool called ClockworkMod Recovery that you can use to install custom rom's and create nandroid backups. (no computer needed)
And finally if you manage to screw up and can not boot, you can use Heimdall on linux like you would use Odin on Windows.
enjoy your phone...
-p
Thank-you so much!!!
I was thinking about exactly what you wrote. Why not do it the linux way? Admittedly my skills are weak.
Had a little trouble with the update.zip but went to the wiki (again) and the info on how to do it from the phone was there. BTW the wiki has improved since last week.
Rooted phone and installed Titanium Backup and Clockwork Recovery. In my excitement I deleted all the ATT bloatware before backing them up and the ROM. Oh well... Too bad.
Now I just feel great about my phone. Needs some customization but no hurry. Only thing was that TB prompted me to go to settings/applications/ and tick "unknown sources". Doesn't exist.
Thanks again! If you have anymore nuggets of info...?
linux newb here but i try
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the phone can mount to a vm in dowload mode for use with odin or in kies mtp mode as long as debugging is off, otherwise it likes to mount to the host pc as a drive, i dont know a work around but you can make the phone a shared folder with the vm client so you can see the files in the vm, it'll be seen as a network location in that case.
it can mount as a drive in linux but you need to select to mount from the phone. i was having problems with it in eclair in windows and didnt try it in linux but froyo is working great. in eclair it may help to try with debugging on then you can mount from the notification bar.
maskvp said:
Rooted phone and installed Titanium Backup and Clockwork Recovery. In my excitement I deleted all the ATT bloatware before backing them up and the ROM. Oh well... Too bad.
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I did that also...
maskvp said:
Now I just feel great about my phone. Needs some customization but no hurry. Only thing was that TB prompted me to go to settings/applications/ and tick "unknown sources". Doesn't exist.
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To enable side loading(unknown sources). I used method 5 from this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376
and here is a link to my comments on the method later in the thread regarding some punctuation corrections.
This method uses adb from the SDK to pull the settings.db file off and edit it using sqlite3 before pushing it back on.
I believe you can edit the file directly on your phone once you have root and install a terminal app from the marketplace.
The above forum post is also in the wiki you referenced previously. basically you want to look for methods to "enable side loading"
-p
I'm using Ubuntu and have had no problems. Rooted and removed market restrictions without a hitch.
In progress upgrading to 10.10 64bit. Will see, but right now my machine sees my phone but it won't mount. Though I haven't tried to force it.
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In progress upgrading to 10.10 64bit. Will see, but right now my machine sees my phone but it won't mount. Though I haven't tried to force it.
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On the phone I leave my usb settings set to ask on connection. And then chose 'mass storage' when it asks. It then mounts /sdcard as an external drive. (make sure you haven't left usb debuging on)
pietro_spina said:
On the phone I leave my usb settings set to ask on connection. And then chose 'mass storage' when it asks. It then mounts /sdcard as an external drive. (make sure you haven't left usb debuging on)
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Oh I've tried it all-wichaways! That hasn't worked either. The card(s) are seen but no longer mount like they used to. When I choose media player I get this message on the phone: PC connection only available in idle screen. Close all running applications. I think something may be corrupted on the phone.
Before I start flashing anything I'm going to give 10.10 a go. Ubuntu specifies that 10.10 plays nice with Android. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble with my startup disks and have wasted three of them on three different downloads. Won't fully boot. Unfortunately, I've had this experience before with other releases, and it almost always was something being wrong with the .iso that was downloaded. Even tried a usb startup and same experience.
Woes. PITA!
maskvp said:
I've had this experience before with other releases, and it almost always was something being wrong with the .iso that was downloaded. Even tried a usb startup and same experience.
Woes. PITA!
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Make sure you burn your disks at a slow speed. Like 4x. Also try downloading over a stable wired connection. Use the md5 tool to check your download and your burn. If you can figure out when it is getting corrupt you have a fighting chance.
Reporting back. Finally got 10.10 to boot from a usb flashdrive by disabling the BootParameters. I guess 10.10 is so cutting edge my 2.5 yo toshiba can't boot it easily.
Reinstalled 10.04 without a hitch and since I didn't format my /home still kept everything. But I tried connecting by usb before any updates. No worky. And not after the 256M of updates either.
It's the phone I'm sure. Not really keen on flashing the ROM yet just to fix this. Recollection is that Samsung didn't put a good effort into this part of the phone. But I think again..
Why not eschew the usb for file transfers? I've got Bluetooth and wifi right here. Who needs clunky old usb? Adhoc network?
Ideas? Wifi would be easiest since my laptop doesn't have Bluetooth.
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Ideas? Wifi would be easiest since my laptop doesn't have Bluetooth.
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I think I mentioned in an earlier post that I use an app called ES File Explorer (free in the market) to navagate to a shared folder on my desktop.
My (samba) shared folder has no restrictions and works well. Only issue is I have to fix ownership and permissions on things copied over to the computer from the phone. If you choose to password protect yours let me know how that works out for you.
pietro_spina said:
I think I mentioned in an earlier post that I use an app called ES File Explorer (free in the market) to navagate to a shared folder on my desktop.
My (samba) shared folder has no restrictions and works well. Only issue is I have to fix ownership and permissions on things copied over to the computer from the phone. If you choose to password protect yours let me know how that works out for you.
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OK thanks. I'm going to investigate this. I take it ESFE works over the 3g connection as long as the host (my laptop) is connected to the internet?
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OK thanks. I'm going to investigate this. I take it ESFE works over the 3g connection as long as the host (my laptop) is connected to the internet?
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It supports FTP for sure. I'm no security expert but I doubt its a good idea to share a samba share over the internet.
If you want remote access to you desktop there are secure methods for that. The method I would choose would depend on my desire/need for a remote connection.
If I just want to access my shared folder I would probably set up a VPN connection and then use ES FileExplorer.
To fully control the computer, use VNC or other "remote desktop" application.
Been reading up on Samba. It is the linux way lol. Also, I went and got a Bluetooth micro-adapter. Installed drivers from the repository.
Transferred some pics and music back and forth. All GUI based. Worked first time. I'm still this side of the learning curve but my base needs are met.
The Bluetooth works great but I'd like to learn a bit more about the wifi. Seems to me one should be able to move files with a VPN via the wireless adapters and no router. I just lack the knowledge and skill to do it.
But thanks for reminding me about the ES FileExplorer! As far as the permissions in Ubuntu for the shared folder I just checked the box under right-click- sharing options allow others to create and delete files from this folder. I think that works.
Cant figure out where else to ask this but you all seem to be the brightest group of computer users I know.
I may be dreaming on this technology and I cant find much form web searches here is my thought please let me know if it or something similar would work.
Have a thumb drive running an OS (Ubuntu, or Windows 7,8 whatever) that is plugged into a USB input on a cable or WiFi modem. So technically this thumb drive is always on or I can somehow access it to turn it on. Now the tricky part. I would like to access this windows or Ubuntu via my android table or my note 2 and use it as though it is my desktop (as needed). I see I can use apps like "Jump" to access a freestanding computer with internet connection but wondering if I can take it a step further and just have everything housed on the thumb drive.
I ask this because I recently lost my tablet due to display issues. I am interested in alternatives before I go buy another full on computer.
thanks in advance for the assistance.
It sounds like you are asking for two separate things, booting from a USB drive, and accessing that computer via a tablet. For the first, you can use a program such as Unetbootin, to create a bootable linux distro onto a USB drive. With that, you should be able to have a fully functional linux distro on a USB stick. For the windows equivalent, you could try WintoFlash. As for the second part of your question, if you enable SSH on your computer, you should be able to SSH tunnel into your computer from any other device that has SSH. As android devices already allow themselves to be SSH'ed into, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use it to access your computer remotely.
syung said:
It sounds like you are asking for two separate things, booting from a USB drive, and accessing that computer via a tablet. For the first, you can use a program such as Unetbootin, to create a bootable linux distro onto a USB drive. With that, you should be able to have a fully functional linux distro on a USB stick. For the windows equivalent, you could try WintoFlash. As for the second part of your question, if you enable SSH on your computer, you should be able to SSH tunnel into your computer from any other device that has SSH. As android devices already allow themselves to be SSH'ed into, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use it to access your computer remotely.
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Thanks for the info! Yes you are correct I am trying to do both those things, however I am trying to do it without the need of a physical PC. I kind of want this boot able thumb drive or whatever to be my PC that I can access whenever needed. I am thinking this is kind of like a virtual server but I dont know how those are housed. i have heard there are cable modems with a USB drive on them to allow them to act as a server if I could just access my boot-able windows or Ubuntu thumb drive that is in the cable modem that would be what I'm wanting.
Does it have to be a USB device? If not, you could look into using a Rasberry Pi to do just that. If you want to have your own virtual server, you would need some sort of physical PC or other device, although if you only want to have a box that just constantly hosts VM's, you could look into running your own ESXi server. with ESXi, you could just turn on the box and any computer on the network should be able to use the VM's that are being hosted on the server. However, you do need the VM tools to do it so I do not know if you can use an Android Tablet, unless you figure out a way to SSH into the VM without using the tools or porting the tools over to Android.
syung said:
Does it have to be a USB device? If not, you could look into using a Rasberry Pi to do just that. If you want to have your own virtual server, you would need some sort of physical PC or other device, although if you only want to have a box that just constantly hosts VM's, you could look into running your own ESXi server. with ESXi, you could just turn on the box and any computer on the network should be able to use the VM's that are being hosted on the server. However, you do need the VM tools to do it so I do not know if you can use an Android Tablet, unless you figure out a way to SSH into the VM without using the tools or porting the tools over to Android.
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Well it can be anything really just prefer not to go through having a "box" if I can skip all the steps and just access it to run the OS. That raspberry Pi looks pretty cool wonder if there is something similar out there to run a windows OS. Looking at it if I rooted my phone apparently i coudl run Ubuntu on the phone
yes, basically you would just run a virtualbox on your phone and SSH into it as a localhost. It works the same way for SSHing into an actual box. The problem is that you wanted windows OS, and windows 7 uses at least 20 gb in storage just for the OS alone, therefore it would be impractical to run it from your phone. If you want windows at some point you will need to have a box even if it is just running as a server.