I was searching around for something else when I came across people talking about their phones charging at 400 - 700 mA from the wall charger. Typically, mine won't charge any higher than 200 mA regardless if its in a wall charger or a USB cable, no matter how long it sits idle. The wall charger is the stock HTC and is in fact rated as having a capability of a 1A output. Interestingly enough, I have a car adapter that I use a USB cable with and I occasionally see ~350 mA from that one, but not often; it too is rated as a capable 1A output.
Also, twice now recently I have plugged my phone into the wall at night before going to bed and woken up to a completely dead phone. It happened again last night, but this time I woke up to it with only 35% battery instead of being dead, so it only charged 20% from the time I went to bed until waking up (about 8 hours).
Is this a kernel, firmware, or hardware issue? Nothing has changed on my phone in a LONG time. In fact, I am still running ARHD 3.6.7! I did flash the new OTA firmware fix at one point MONTHS ago however. I reverted to stock, got all the OTAs, then restored ARHD.
I looked for an app to make sure the phone is dropping into sleep, but I couldn't figure them out, anyone have a good thread or info on how to do that?
Thanks in advance!
~T.J.
did you check the cable?
Yes, I should have mentioned that. I do have multiple cables. I have the one the phone came with, two others from a previous phone, and the one that stays in the car. I have interchanged the cables with various chargers plenty of times, doesn't seem to make a difference, but I honestly didn't look hard since this is a newly discovered issue. I will try switching them around and noting what happens with each.
Thanks for the tip!
~T.J.
EDIT: I also downloaded watchdog from the market and my phone has been sitting idle for a while now, just checked and it says there are no misbehaving apps, whatever that means.
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I've noticed that the battery meter will sometimes stay at 100% for a while and then all of the sudden drop to the actual percentage sometime later. A reboot after unplugging the phone will fix the problem and report the battery % at the correct level. I was wondering how many other people were experiencing this, or if it is just a hit or miss thing?
I'm still on stock, unrooted, no mods. It's a straight out of the box Skyrocket.
Also, does the problem remain after rooting, modding, etc.?
I asked this on the battery results thread in general, and only received one response, so I figured this would be better in Q&A.
I had the same issue, but it has only happened one or two times.
Showed 100% for hours then rebooted and it showed 73%
I don't know how long you've had your phone, but it takes several cycles from full to empty for the battery to calibrate correctly. During that time you can get some really funky readings on it.
I am experiencing the same problem.
I've also had a hard time charging the phone. I've left it plugged in upwards of 18 hours, only to find it saying its only 83% charged. That may just be another symptom of the same problem though.
Do you think this is a phone or a battery issue?
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I am experiencing the same problem.
I've also had a hard time charging the phone. I've left it plugged in upwards of 18 hours, only to find it saying its only 83% charged. That may just be another symptom of the same problem though.
Do you think this is a phone or a battery issue?
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That sounds like you were plugged into a pc vs ac power and had heavy usage during that time.
Mine charges very quickly when at idle and plugged into the wall.
I've had my phone since the day it launched (the 6th) and just experienced this for the first time yesterday. It was indeed quite odd to see.
I have had this happen one time. I also noticed the phone got very hot.
It actually happend yesterday, stayed at 100% almost all day then just shut off and wouldnt reboot.... freaked me out!!
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I have had this issue only when using an old iphone wall charger have. i can charge with any of our multiple other chargers with no issue....i use a usb cable plugged onto that apple wall charger and it happens every single time
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I think that the battery is pretty wonky. I am not sure if the NFC addition is causing these issues but some people are having amazing life ans some people (me included) get horrible. I am getting a warranty exchange on my battery. No way I should drop 12% in an hour and 20 minutes when the only usage is 19 minutes of checking email. If I have to have it plugged in every time I turn around it is not exactly a wireless device now is it?
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I have had this issue only when using an old iphone wall charger have. i can charge with any of our multiple other chargers with no issue....i use a usb cable plugged onto that apple wall charger and it happens every single time
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i think that u just solved my and many more ppl's problem i am using the same iphone wall charger and i just plugged my usb in there and the battery wouyld stay at 100% all day long and when i connect the charger it says "disconnect charger battery is full" but i think this will solve my problem man thank u very much for posting this ! im glad ive read it because this is the my second galaxy s2 with the same problem i went to the warranty and the exchange it but still the same problem so now i know it HAS to be the iphone charger!!
Strange, I was just reading this thread and thinking I have never experienced this. Then I checked my battery stat and it showed 100% even though I've been using it for an hour and a half. I restarted and now reads 90%.
Had my phone for almost a month. Rooted only on stock ROM. Just took it off USB cable from laptop an hour and a half ago.
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Strange, I was just reading this thread and thinking I have never experienced this. Then I checked my battery stat and it showed 100% even though I've been using it for an hour and a half. I restarted and now reads 90%.
Had my phone for almost a month. Rooted only on stock ROM. Just took it off USB cable from laptop an hour and a half ago.
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I had the same issue. But I read on a thread that cause is that u use a charger & cable that is not Samsung. I had tested and it is true. If u charge with the charger it will befine
That's was stupid of me. I think I am on that thread
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My still stay at 100% all time with Samsung charger, any fix?
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My still stay at 100% all time with Samsung charger, any fix?
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I think we narrowed it down to being a bad charging circuit in the phone or battery triggered by a .1a charger.
When we got our new skyrockets they stopped doing it.
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My still stay at 100% all time with Samsung charger, any fix?
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I was powering my phone off, plugging the power in and allowing it to recharge. The phone would automatically power on as soon as I connected the power but I didn't think that mattered. It turns out it did. If I powered the phone on and then connected the power, the battery meter would work correctly.
This was different the Captivate I had previously. That phone had the capability to charge while powered off. There was even a charging graphic that displayed while the phone was off.
The Skyrocket did not have this same feature when I originally bought it. However, ATT did an update at some point and now it does. I've been unable to re-create the stuck battery gauge since that update.
please only use the charger that came with the phone. other chargers, after prolonged usage, may cause issues.
The charger that came with most skyrockets is a .1a charger and causes the issue as well. A few reported getting .7a chargers in the box but most have been .1
I have tested the iPhone charger theory on 5 phones now. Phone 1 and 2 experienced the issue. Phones 3-5 did not
Its more than just the charger. The phones experiencing this either have a bad battery or it's in the phone
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please only use the charger that came with the phone. other chargers, after prolonged usage, may cause issues.
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From day 1 with the skyrocket, I have used an old wall charger and cable and had this problem daily. I plug it in at night and in the morning, it's at 100% until I reboot, or some other random event that drops the percentage to the real battery stats.
Because of this thread, I dug out the box and used the wall charger and cable that came with it, and this morning shortly after unplugging the phone, it was at 99% and dropping, just as it should. Very glad I tried this.
Ummm no.....
00mred00 said:
The charger that came with most skyrockets is a .1a charger and causes the issue as well. A few reported getting .7a chargers in the box but most have been .1
I have tested the iPhone charger theory on 5 phones now. Phone 1 and 2 experienced the issue. Phones 3-5 did not
Its more than just the charger. The phones experiencing this either have a bad battery or it's in the phone
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I did a recheck of my black cube SR wall charger (Samsung part # ETA0U80JBE).. It is NOT .1a it is 1.0amps - which - interestingly enough is EXACTLY what my iPhone3g power cube right next to it delivers.
The .7am Samsung charger has the usb connector on the side, and is part number ETA0U60JBE - delivering 5v at .7 amps (30% decrease over the little cube device). That was the charger my SGS-II had. My S/R came with the 1.0 amp ETA0U80JBE version.
One amp will charge the phone MUCH faster than the USB port. Per the spec, the typical USB device cannot drain more than 500mA (1/2 of what the power cube supplies to the phone).
Unfortunately Apple and Samsung both have the cubes pretty well locked up, so I cant compare the components, but at a first glace they appear to be absolutely identical, both putting out about 5.1 volts at zero load.
For folks that are experiencing various charging issues, especially slow charging, and or inability to go to deep sleep after charging, I want to point out something that folks may be doing without realizing the pitfalls of doing so.
DO NOT CHARGE YOUR SKYROCKET WITH A DIFFERENT CHARGER THAN IT CAME WITH.
Here's why: The Skyrocket actually come with a 5v 1.0 Amp Charger. This is a higher output than similar phones, even the regular Galaxy SII from AT&T uses a significantly lower output charger. The best reason I can see for this is the large stock (1850mAh) battery in the Skyrocket, put there to help overcome the demands of LTE, which is a bit of a beast as far as power consumption.
This charger appears to be the same one Samsung ships with the Note, a device with a huge battery, though I have only been able confirm this by a visual. But this shows what Samsung's intent was. And a properly working charger should completely charge the Skyrocket in a couple of hours if turned off, 3-4 if running. Any longer and something is not right.
That's okay, since it is power "well spent" in my opinion, assuming you are actually in an LTE area. Those that are not though, I would have considered carefully the price you pay (in battery life) for no appreciable return, unless you are in a "coming soon" area, which is actually true for many Skyrocket owners. Alternately you can root, and use appropriate tools to drop back to HSPA+ or (shudder!) Edge.
The 1850mAh stock battery is decent, removable/replaceable unlike the new trend of sealed battery compartments, and it's possible to cram a Galaxy Nexus Battery in there (barely, and some have been unable to).
For problems with deep sleep, there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that unplugging while the screen is ON makes some difference, though in my testing (with a single example; my own phone) I could not reproduce this.
even if i dont use lte it still drains? im on rogers so its rat unlocked. how can i turn it off?
I use an iGO 5.0v 850mA USB wall charger and I also use the GNex extended battery. After charging all night I unplugged charger and let it sit for 19 min with screen off. Of that 19 min, according to CPU Spy, it spent the entire time at 384mhz and not 1 sec in deep sleep.
I rebooted the phone and ran the same test, this time it spent 97% of the time in deep sleep and the rest at 384mhz. Pretty conclusive if you ask me.
i used to notice this issue, but on the most recent CM9 nightlies (from about 7/2 on) the issue has went away. this is with both the charger that came with the phone, as well as the one that came with my captivate, which i have a usb extension hooked between the charger and the usb cable.
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i used to notice this issue, but on the most recent CM9 nightlies (from about 7/2 on) the issue has went away. this is with both the charger that came with the phone, as well as the one that came with my captivate, which i have a usb extension hooked between the charger and the usb cable.
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I think usb extension messed up my cord, not sure yet have to confirm it but I have no idea why just recently the cord has been transferring at 1mb/s~ to my SDCard. Not my SD card because I put it on my USB adapter and it was going 10-15mb/s I'll test with the s3's cord lol
I thought it might be worth writing a post about my second tablet's failure before returning it as I'm not sure whether to get it fixed/replaced or look for a refund. Maybe someone has some thoughts? After suffering the apparent failure of two Note 10.1's I'm getting worried that there is something fundamentally wrong with this tablet.
Now, I should say here that my tablet was bought refurbished. It shouldn't make a difference- I've bought plenty of refurbished tech before and I've never had problems like this but I thought it might be worth mentioning.
So, the first Note arrived faulty. It would not charge above 17%. The charge up to that point was faultless... It just wouldn't go higher than 17%. That made me think it was a software issue but nothing I could do would fix it. Back it went. It was swapped on the door so I know the second tablet was an entirely new tablet (with new charger).
The second Note I received has worked for just shy of 2 months before it too is having a lot of charging issues. It will only occasionally charge now- most of the time I can leave it for hours and it won't go up 1% but every so often it'll start charging again. The lead is fine but I can't check the charger as I don't have another to try out.
Due to my paranoia of charge failure I've monitored the second tablet with 'Battery Mix'. The graph created by the app shows a perfect flat line when the ac adaptor is plugged in. That in itself seems weird... If there was no charging occurring, wouldn't the battery lose charge rather than remain at a constant level?
The flatlining behaviour is what has me worried. Both the tablets had the same issue, the first just stuck at 17% whereas the second will stick at seemingly random levels. But the symptoms of the fault are similar.
Searching the internetz reveals similar cases as mine and, seeing as a refurb device only has a years warranty, I'm not feeling particularly confident in a third Note behaving itself over the long term.
Oh, and after all that whinging... I do actually love the Note 10.1 when it works. It's a really nice bit of kit which I am loathed to have to return.
I have had fits using the supplied stock charging cable. I bought an aftermarket cable & it charges perfectly. Unfortunately, I broke the cable two days ago & had to use the stock supplied cable. Charging is so slow it is ridiculous. I plugged it in yesterday morning at 7% & today, 20 hours later, it is only at 22%.
With the after market cable, it would charge to 100% from 3% in about 3-5 hours.
Just to follow up, I picked up a Samsung dock for the Tab 10.1 & used the charging cable from that to test it & my Note 10.1 started charging very quickly. It went from 21% to 56% in about 30 minutes.
I have no idea why the stock cable is so bad with charging, but it is definitely the culprit.
The Tab 10.1 dock is currently on clearance at my local Verizon store for $10. I am going to swing by later & grab the other one they had for a spare.
Cable is a noted problem in other Sammy forums on XDA .
jje
Thanks for the comments.
The tablet has now gone back for repair/replacement.... It's back to the old Hannspad for me until it returns. Oh joy.
I'm not sure the lead is the problem in my case although this is all just speculation on my part. I guess it makes sense in some ways- the charging became intermittent when plugged in which fits with the dodgy lead idea but when it played up it would just sit on whatever percentage it had been on when I plugged it in. Surely a bad lead would result in more uneven results rather than no change in charge (up or down) after hours of AC power?
I'm now kicking myself that I didn't save a screenshot of the behaviour as seen on the graph created by 'Battery Mix'. It was quite literally a straight horizontal line, no charge up and no discharge down. Most odd.
Fingers crossed the tablet will come back fixed. I have a fear it's going to behave itself as soon as it arrives to be tested but hey ho... We shall see. When it returns I'll definitely be investing in a third party lead.
With the original supplied charging cable plugged into the tablet, the device would drop in charge while in use. Meaning, it wasn't drawing enough/any power while in use. Also, it would sit at 22%. Never go any higher. I left it plugged in for 2 days & it never reached higher than 22%. This is on Jellybean. If I switched back to ICS, it would charge just fine.
I found several threads on the web stating exactly the same behavior.
I have since purchased 2 spare cables from Amazon, 2 Samsung branded travel chargers, & a Power+ travel charger, & ALL of them charge the tablet quickly & to 100%.
If I switch back to the supplied cable, it actually drops charge while in use.
I promise you, it is not the tablet.
this fdang phone will NOT charge for longer than 10min, i got a battery app to see the mah im using and at first it charges and it goes up, then after 10 min or so it drops and my % will slowly go down then eventually die and wake up with a full battery that dies in 2 hours or less. it hardley charges i have tried the stock charger that charges at 1 amp and a samsung charger for an S4 that charges at 2 amps, it helps to get the battery monitor to say im gaining mah but then it goes down. i even underclocked the phone at 384mhz and airplane mode, STILL, WILL NOT CHARGE
Please help
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this fdang phone will NOT charge for longer than 10min, i got a battery app to see the mah im using and at first it charges and it goes up, then after 10 min or so it drops and my % will slowly go down then eventually die and wake up with a full battery that dies in 2 hours or less. it hardley charges i have tried the stock charger that charges at 1 amp and a samsung charger for an S4 that charges at 2 amps, it helps to get the battery monitor to say im gaining mah but then it goes down. i even underclocked the phone at 384mhz and airplane mode, STILL, WILL NOT CHARGE
Please help
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Bad news... I had the exact same thing happen to me. To be honest, I got my 4GSlide off of eBay, and it was a little flakey then (seemed to be picky about sdcards on boot), but it was basically fine. Then a few weeks after I got, it developed the exact same problem you describe. No idea why. I tried everything: different chargers, different batteries (bought a new OEM original battery), no sdcard, fiddled with USB settings... Nothing. The only way I could use it was by charging the spare batteries in an external charger so I could swap when they were empty. At the same time as this happened, the USB port stopped working when plugged into a PC (device unrecognised, even with HTC Sync, even though it worked before). Clearly something serious was going on. I took it to a couple of the best phone repair shops in my area and both were stumped, saying the only way it could be fixed was by replacing the whole motherboard. In the end I bit the bullet and I got another one off of eBay a couple of weeks ago (perhaps a questionable choice, but I really like the phone and its keyboard).
So... I can't say for sure, but if you're having the same problem as me, you probably won't have much choice other than getting a new device.
cucumbers said:
Bad news... I had the exact same thing happen to me. To be honest, I got my 4GSlide off of eBay, and it was a little flakey then (seemed to be picky about sdcards on boot), but it was basically fine. Then a few weeks after I got, it developed the exact same problem you describe. No idea why. I tried everything: different chargers, different batteries (bought a new OEM original battery), no sdcard, fiddled with USB settings... Nothing. The only way I could use it was by charging the spare batteries in an external charger so I could swap when they were empty. At the same time as this happened, the USB port stopped working when plugged into a PC (device unrecognised, even with HTC Sync, even though it worked before). Clearly something serious was going on. I took it to a couple of the best phone repair shops in my area and both were stumped, saying the only way it could be fixed was by replacing the whole motherboard. In the end I bit the bullet and I got another one off of eBay a couple of weeks ago (perhaps a questionable choice, but I really like the phone and its keyboard).
So... I can't say for sure, but if you're having the same problem as me, you probably won't have much choice other than getting a new device.
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thanks, its been like this for a while, i dont know how to fix, im not sure if it was like a connection problem, like possibly on of the pins on the phone arent making contact or something. Ill keep looking around hopefully someone has the answer out there
Hi guys
I have a galaxy s relay 4g
It took 2 hours of constant usage, to kill the battery from 50 to 0%
Figuring this was normal, I was configuring everytthing while downloading 50apps over wifi
Note phone was on airplane mode, but wifi was on.
Next day I updated from stock ics to stock jb
Turned it on, it was at 91% and after 5 min of usage the phone said it was too hot to charge the bat.
Phone went from 91% charge down to dead with one hour of moderate usage and 2 hour siting idle on airplane mode, wifi on..
It was 46c on batt temp whole time
Charged for 3 hours from pc usb and it gained 3%.
Charged another 3 on wall socket that came with nokia lumia, rated at 1400mA.
Charged 15%
The battery info showed that even though the phone was off, it woke up many times during the night -- IT WAS OFF as in the battery with the 4 white circles on the bottom were showing!
Turned off, removed sdcard, factory reset (left sd out, its still out) i
Came back ok, it syned to google and reinstalled all my apps, then died again
I've tried 2 batteries, and 3 different chargers,
I factory reset the phone too.
Wake lock says the android system used 18% of the battery... other than that I can't see anything obviously wrong
Stock on any device is also resource hungry.... What are the specs of the chargers you are using...certain chargers will not put out the needed amount of ma or volts...which also messes with a Samsung battery overcharge feature
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Charger 1 is my pc usb port, which charged my other two phones (mytouch q by lg and sammy captivate glide) about 70% as fast as charger 2.
Charger 2 is what came with phone but doesn't appear oem. 5.7v at 600mA
Charger 3 is the oem charger which came with wifes lumia 925 which rates at 5v at 1400mA
Its "charging" in my car now, no sim card, wifi on and connected to a medium strength signal, 0% charged and I wached the voltage steadily decline as I hit refresh in the gsam battery monitor. Started at 3.3v and in a minute was at 3.18v. Still 0%
Car charger is a no name brand (which kept my captivate charged pretty well despite using gps at the end of my 6 hour drive the phone was still at 75%.)
The battery is samsung oem.
The first battery I tried is also samsung oem.
I also have a 5v 1amp charger that will fill both phones between 1 and 2 hours if memory serves, the 1.4 doesn't seem to go any faster as I guess the won draw much if any more than 1 amp.
Given all of the above I'm inclined to think its software or other hardware issue.... phone was sold as "seller refurbished" on ebay, but the description says its just an open box sale of a phone that came back within the first 7 days....and yes I bought a square trade warranty in case some BS like this happened.... but want to try and fix before going that route.
Is there no way to factory reset to the original ics firmware?
I see you also have a relay, once I get this all figured out id love to root and rom mine like you have yours!
I know the newer android roms have more features but are they more or less responsive in general?
Main reason I got a relay instead of another captivate glide is the relay has much more rom development.
And now the red charging led isn't even turning on..... I wonder if its defective.
Shame I can't return it now, the screen has light scratches (was in my pocket while I was working under my carL
And it was sold in like new condition
Grabbed a brand new USB cable plugged the phone into a 5th charger, oem HTC radar, 5v at 1amp
swapped the battery for the 1st one I had.
Appeared to charge fine. Pulled out the charge cord at 50%, plugged it right back in.... the battery charging screen went from about 50% down to 20% in 1 second.
Confused, I left it plugged in and went to bed.
Got up this morning and it was dead again.... while plugged in, while off, not even the charging led was on. switched to the 1.4A charger, still nothing... hit the home button a couple times and the thing woke up into the battery charging screen (it ignored the power button the whole time)
The gsam screen was even more interesting:
it doesn't show much but the line graph showed a rapid decline from 20% down to almost 0 from some short time before 3 am, then
3 hours from 3am to 6am, the charge went from near 0 to 50%, and then in half the time back down to near 0.
The temp graph wasn't a line, but fragments of one
does Gsam show the amperage of the draw or charge on yours? its only ever given my the voltage of the battery and shows 1mA on the bottom of the battery,
ebay seller says clean the charge port with alcohol.... not sure why someone should need to do that on a "like new" phone but I'll have to try and find something tiny to shove a paper towel in there with..... that would account for the not charging but not for the high drain.... could thins thing have a short someplace?
sounds to me like a defective device. the fact that you did a factory reset and it's still not charging even with it turned off is probably the biggest sign there. it can't be any apps you've installed because you wiped them all off. i think you've gone way above what should be normally expected of a customer in terms of troubleshooting your device. hairline scratches on the phone are fine. you should still be able to return/exchange it IMHO. especially with the squaretrade thing.
yes, it's possible to flash back to stock ICS but if it's not working with the factory rom (whether ics or jb) the phone obviously has issues.
i just bought mine a couple weeks ago too, though not over ebay. i found a local tmobile "authorized" store (advertising on craigslist) that was selling stuff with similar description - open item or customer purchased and returned within a week. i have used mine on all sorts of chargers without issue: a motorola dual-usb rated at 750ma in the car, a monoprice 2.1a charger built into the 10-outlet power strip at my desk, 2 different laptop usb ports, and a samsung wall charger rated at i think 1.8a which came with my wife's galaxy tab 2. i never ran stock rom for more than about a day or so, just to verify proper operation of the phone, and now i run cyanogenmod11. i can go all day on a charge with what i consider medium to semi-heavy usage, which i think is great.
for example, yesterday i unplugged at about 9am after an overnight charge (with the phone on - i almost never turn it off because i have to be able to receive on-call alert emails from work). i got the day started in the attic installing radiant barrier (so it was rather hot). i had the phone in my pocket streaming a shoutcast station over wifi for probably about 4 hours. later, i watched a 30 minute show on netflix (also wifi), played some wordfeud, surfed the net a bit, watched some youtube videos on fixing my weed eater, did a few emails for work, probably 20-30 texts and maybe 10 minutes worth of phone calls. by 11pm i was still around 30% charge remaining. at no time did i plug in my phone during the day.
i have an extended battery on its way from china, so i expect to be able to go 2 full days on a charge with similar usage. and the thicker back plate will make it easier to hold, since i have such long fingers.
tl;dr - you got a bad phone. exchange it.