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Hi, I've had the glorious captivate for a few weeks now and I constantly read this forum. I am now ready to flash my phone and while I am not really afraid to do it, since I used to flash my Nokia 5800 every week, I wonder what is it during the process of flashing and loading a new rom that can cause the phone to get bricked? Are some parts riskier than others? Is there some common mistake or error or something people usually forget that kills it?
I'd appreciate some answers, since I love my phone and would hate to brick it.
Thank you very much! XDA rules!
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rufex2001 said:
Hi, I've had the glorious captivate for a few weeks now and I constantly read this forum. I am now ready to flash my phone and while I am not really afraid to do it, since I used to flash my Nokia 5800 every week, I wonder what is it during the process of flashing and loading a new rom that can cause the phone to get bricked? Are some parts riskier than others? Is there some common mistake or error or something people usually forget that kills it?
I'd appreciate some answers, since I love my phone and would hate to brick it.
Thank you very much! XDA rules!
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If you test the phone to make sure it can accept the button combinations to go into download mode (almost all do, except for a batch of faulty ones), there is almost nothing you can do that will truly "brick" the phone. A bad or interrupted flash will result in a boot loop, which you can recover from by forcing download mode, and using Odin to reflash back to stock.
Flashing the first and second bootloaders would be the most dangerous, which is why the Odin one-click flasher is so bad. Also, the USB connection is a prime source of failure which is another reason to avoid Odin. So, if you have working button combos you are pretty unlikely to brick the phone as long as you avoid unnecessarily using any version of Odin.
Note: DesignGears includes sbl.bin (the second bootloader) in his ROMs, but since you aren't flashing it via USB it's relatively safe and it does have the side-effect of fixing you button combos if they aren't working. On the other hand, if you aren't using the one-click then you probably already have a good sbl.bin and so it's not needed.
Basically what causes a brick in any electronic equipment is from an interruption/error in any boot critical files. The item does not have the proper/complete instruction to turn on. You could say it is like starting a car being told to first put the key in
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If you can use the 3 button combos to get into download or recovery mode, you are good to go. The only danger would be a bad Odin flash, but even so you'll have a chance to recover it by making a cheap USB jig (3 100k Ohm resistors into pins 3 and 4, I think, of the usb port) or buying one. This will boot the phone straight into Download mode.
When using Odin, there is only one stage where you can brick your phone for good, during the bootloader copy process, which probably takes less than a second.
Thanks for the replies! I just tried it and I got the 3 button into download mode combo, so that's great! Now, what other options do I have for flashing besides Odin? Apparently Odin is not the safest, huh? And is there a way to make the bootloader writing stage less risky?
Also, my Captivate is a 1007 build. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Thanks, again!
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rufex2001 said:
Thanks for the replies! I just tried it and I got the 3 button into download mode combo, so that's great! Now, what other options do I have for flashing besides Odin? Apparently Odin is not the safest, huh? And is there a way to make the bootloader writing stage less risky?
Also, my Captivate is a 1007 build. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Thanks, again!
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My Cappy is a 1007 build, too. I've soft bricked my phone more times than I can count, but Odin hasn't had anything to do with it. It can do it, though.
At one time in my life I flashed a new ROM every day, and I used Odin every time before I flashed.
On a side note, back when I flashed my first ROM, I pulled the battery during the first boot, dropped it, and then flashed another ROM without using Odin, and it never bricked it, so that should give you a good idea of how hard it is to brick these phones. Lol
Stupidity.
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opcow said:
Flashing the first and second bootloaders would be the most dangerous, which is why the Odin one-click flasher is so bad. Also, the USB connection is a prime source of failure which is another reason to avoid Odin. So, if you have working button combos you are pretty unlikely to brick the phone as long as you avoid unnecessarily using any version of Odin.
Note: DesignGears includes sbl.bin (the second bootloader) in his ROMs, but since you aren't flashing it via USB it's relatively safe and it does have the side-effect of fixing you button combos if they aren't working. On the other hand, if you aren't using the one-click then you probably already have a good sbl.bin and so it's not needed.
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I didn't realize Odin one click was so bad. I have been using Odin3 one click routinely now for a couple weeks as I flash back and forth trying out all these great ROMs to see what I like and so far (knock on wood I guess?) I haven't had any problems at all.
So, now that I have used Odin one click many times over, does my Cappy now have a bad sbl.bin?
No odin really is not that bad just don't unplug it while it is running. You would not want to unplug your computer when flashing a new bios
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Right, so if not Odin, what can I use for flashing? Can I do it all with the sdk using adb?
Also, I've been going through the guides and other stickies and apparently Odin is necessary only to flash back to stock. For rooting and installing new roms only the update.zip file and clockwork recovery are necessary. Could you do the same procedure to flash back to stock?
Sorry for any dumb or repeated question I may be asking.
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Pierce533 said:
I didn't realize Odin one click was so bad. I have been using Odin3 one click routinely now for a couple weeks as I flash back and forth trying out all these great ROMs to see what I like and so far (knock on wood I guess?) I haven't had any problems at all.
So, now that I have used Odin one click many times over, does my Cappy now have a bad sbl.bin?
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Odin isn't bad so much as an unnecessary risk. There are a lot of potential causes of failure: user error, accidents, flakey USB ports or software from other vendors that interferes with your drivers. The there the fact that people use the one-click and lose their button combos or brick their phone by using the one-click on a 1010+ build. I can safely odin flash all day if I need to, but there's just no reason to. And if you look around these forums you will see a lot of people crying after an odin mishap.
rufex2001 said:
Right, so if not Odin, what can I use for flashing? Can I do it all with the sdk using adb?
Also, I've been going through the guides and other stickies and apparently Odin is necessary only to flash back to stock. For rooting and installing new roms only the update.zip file and clockwork recovery are necessary. Could you do the same procedure to flash back to stock?
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I keep a CWM update.zip on my sdcard for reinstalling CWM and I flash my ROMs with CWM. I also keep a couple of spare know good ROM zips on the sdcard to go back to in case something goes wrong with a new install.
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Odin isn't bad so much as an unnecessary risk. There are a lot of potential causes of failure: user error, accidents, flakey USB ports or software from other vendors that interferes with your drivers. The there the fact that people use the one-click and lose their button combos or brick their phone by using the one-click on a 1010+ build. I can safely odin flash all day if I need to, but there's just no reason to. And if you look around these forums you will see a lot of people crying after an odin mishap.
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Thanks for the info. Is there a stock I897UCJF6 ROM that can be flashed with CWM? I haven't been able to find one and if there is one I would like to have one around to use. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.
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I keep a CWM update.zip on my sdcard for reinstalling CWM and I flash my ROMs with CWM. I also keep a couple of spare know good ROM zips on the sdcard to go back to in case something goes wrong with a new install.
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That is exactly the sort of thing I had in mind! So I guess I could keep a CWM update.zip and a stock rom update.zip and some custom roms and just do everything directly from the phone and without Odin, right? Or am I missing something?
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Guns don't kill people
opcow said:
Odin isn't bad so much as an unnecessary risk. Then there the fact that people use the one-click and lose their button combos or brick their phone by using the one-click on a 1010+ build.
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Yep. I have build 1008 that has always had the 3-button combo and lost it after using ODIN 1-click (I restored the combo with a later flash).
I believe opcow and others when they say that flashing back to stock is unnecessary. I just don't understand why the authors of some of these ROMs leave this as part of their installation guide.
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Pay close attention to the options in recovery when you are using a custom rom. It's part of the custom kernal, and of used properly can help you avoid odin. I avoid it because I have a mac and odin won't run on anything but windows. Custom recovery will allow you to format every part of the OS but the sbl.bin. Also in some custom recoveries there is an option to mount usb. This will allow you to format the internal sd then copy a new rom.zip and flash if you really want a clean flash. If your doing this make sure you are able to mount your sd before you format anything. Avoid stock 2.2 kernals because they have 3e recovery. There are ways around that but they have to be in play before you end up in a bootloop.
3e recovery + bootloop= odin recovery "only option".
Make sure lag fix for rom kernal A understands lag fix for rom kernal B. Also usually only a concern for stock 2.2 kernal. Other than that really hard to brick this phone.
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As long as you keep a CWM update.zip and a ROM on your internel sdcard at all times, I see no reason why you would ever have to use odin 1-click.
I get bootloops all the time, just pull the battery and then use vol up + vol down + pow to enter recovery to flash the ROM back. Make sure it's a wipe ROM.
If it's not a soft-brick, then you will need odin.
ryude said:
As long as you keep a CWM update.zip and a ROM on your internel sdcard at all times, I see no reason why you would ever have to use odin 1-click.
I get bootloops all the time, just pull the battery and then use vol up + vol down + pow to enter recovery to flash the ROM back. Make sure it's a wipe ROM.
If it's not a soft-brick, then you will need odin.
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Could you please explain what a wipe ROM is? Thanks
i just wanted this all in one place.i wanted my daily driver to be torch or fusion cause of call quality but also want to play around on gb roms.i found a safe way to go back and forth.if something happens to your phone i'm not responsible this is what works for me.
1.flash gb stock just like it says here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045734
2.i wanted mosaic on to play around with so i flashed mosaic.now from mosaic( I have only tried mosaic so far) you can flash back to 2.2 or 2.1 rom that has NO secondary bootloaders(this is very important).and you have to be on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042543 the kernel from here in order for this to work cause it uses cwm 2.5 still.
3.make sure you wipe data/factory reset and also wipe cache partition and dalvik cache in between flashing roms.
4.if on talon kernel you cant flash from 2.3 to 2.2 cause it uses cwm 3.0.so you need to get kernel flasher from market and the this file http://etc.muteheadlight.net/android/I9000_reoriented_vG.1.1_novoo.tar and flash it from kernel flasher it will put you back on cwm 2.5 and you can go back to 2.2 from there.
this has worked for me several times today i wanted to make sure it worked go and thank all the devs on there respected paged.they work hard on all this development show some appreciation.
again dont mix boot loaders make sure the rom you are flashing does not flash boot loaders.just stay on gb boot loaders.as it is stated you will brick your phone mixing boot loaders.
I hope this helps some people out and explains it good enough.
I just use odin one click to flash back to stock then flash by froyo rom of choice.
To Gingerbread from 2.1 bootloaders:
odin flash bootloader and reorient kernel package HERE (7mb)
odin flash talon or other kernel with CWM3 built in
boot into CWM3
CWM3 flash GB wipe rom!
Back to Eclair/Froyo: (keeping GB booties)
Odin flash a Kernel with CWM2.5 built in (onix)
boot into CWM2
CWM2 flash 2.1 or 2.2 wipe rom.
------AVOID ROMS WITH SBL (secondary boot loader) LIKE A PLAGUE!!! or built-in 3 button fix!----- YOU WILL BRICK!!
****To not worry about mixing Bootloaders or the SBL on Eclair/Froyo roms flash odin-one-click to get stock booties before Odin flashing a Cwm2.5 kernel.
Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy
i also use odin one-click to get back to stock
Fezz102 you have successfully flashed between GB and Froyo and only used odin to flash the initial boot loaders and rom after that you just swapped kernels with sgs kernel flasher and haven't had a single issue? And you haven't used odin again?
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Why is everyone so afraid of odin? AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T HANG ON BOOT.BIN OR SBL.BIN YOU CANNOT BRICK. PERIOD.
Kernels don't have bootloaders AT ALL using odin to flash a kernel is recommended by all the kernel devs, they have stated the app is actually more likely to cause improper writes than odin.
studacris said:
Why is everyone so afraid of odin? AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T HANG ON BOOT.BIN OR SBL.BIN YOU CANNOT BRICK. PERIOD.
Kernels don't have bootloaders AT ALL using odin to flash a kernel is recommended by all the kernel devs, they have stated the app is actually more likely to cause improper writes than odin.
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I'm on a mac I have a pc around but I swear if you saw it you'd be a little nervous to it's a cheap old lap top running xp it doesn't even have a battery, I'd be fine with odin if I had faith in my pc. That being said don't mention heimdall it doesn't recognize 2.1 bootloaders so in order to move up I still need odin.
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heimdall doesnt recognize 2.1 bootloaders? really?
how was it created with 2.1 bootloaders before the 2.3 ones ever existed??
thats news to me.... learn somethin new every day...
*sarcasm*
This an interesting post from the guys that wrote heimdall the first is a list of confirmed devices that work with heimdall the eighth post is a list of confirmed working bootloaders and osx compatability i9000 this should give you an idea of what I'm talking about. Out of ten only two support osx. As far as the i897 is concerned if you ever flashed your phone with odin 1click and I have the boot loaders included do not support osx. THAT'D be a fact . *touchee*
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Here's the linkhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891518
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1tontomato said:
Fezz102 you have successfully flashed between GB and Froyo and only used odin to flash the initial boot loaders and rom after that you just swapped kernels with sgs kernel flasher and haven't had a single issue? And you haven't used odin again?
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no problems so far.just wipe everything and factory reset clear data in recovery the key there is to be in cwm2.5 and not 3.0. and to never flash anything with secondary bootloaders.
Hey if Im currently on a JVH ROM, and want to try out the Galaxy Sense i9000, but the whole deal about the bootloaders is a little irrating. And its even trickier for me to go back to stock considering I have a build 1010, thus One Click soft bricks my phone (*I have a jig*). But it really isnt a big deal because I use the JH2 method and iCezars method for flashing back without risk, without replacing the bootloaders. Those are the two methods I have had to flash back to stock while on a Gingerbread ROM.
But my question lies in whether I can flash back to stock using one of the two methods I stated above which DO NOT FLASH BOOTLOADERS and follow the instructions in the Sense i9000 thread (This isnt a how to, to flash, because from December--February all I did was flash MIUI and CM7), but rather do you know if I could flash with GB bootloaders or would it be too big of a mess?
And if I cant can someone point me into a direction of a .tar file that contains BOTH BOOTLOADERS such as Odin One Click but I have to use Odin 3 and manually put it in and flash.
Thanks!
Just use odin one click, yes it will soft brick you, no it's not s big deal you have a jig, after that soft brick use your jig, and icezar's packages liked you usually do. Bam stock with original bootloaders. That is your only option. Nothing else contains both bootloaders.
studacris said:
Just use odin one click, yes it will soft brick you, no it's not s big deal you have a jig, after that soft brick use your jig, and icezar's packages liked you usually do. Bam stock with original bootloaders. That is your only option. Nothing else contains both bootloaders.
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Hmm.. I was seriously thinking that but I was worried that it would completely brick the phone because it does flash both bootloaders thus completely bricking the phone.
If I knew I could just Jig it back like ive had to do twice when I used Odin One Click Id use the JH2 package or Cezars and be good.
But since im playing with bootloaders Im worried that it will completely brick cause One Click doesnt even work on my phone.
it only completly bricks the phone if it DOESN'T flash both boot loaders!
what happens when you use one click? a soft brick right? if you get ANY activity out of you phone at all your bootloaders are intact. and your jig will work for download mode after that then you can fix the soft brick by using the .tar package you usually use.
nothing but odin one click will flash both stock bootloaders
studacris said:
it only completly bricks the phone if it DOESN'T flash both boot loaders!
what happens when you use one click? a soft brick right? if you get ANY activity out of you phone at all your bootloaders are intact. and your jig will work for download mode after that then you can fix the soft brick by using the .tar package you usually use.
nothing but odin one click will flash both stock bootloaders
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yes I know that im not trying to argue you with you... hahah
Im just saying that I dont know Im just a little hesitant as I havent used Odin One Click in a while, plus the fact that it'll be twice the nerve racking coming from Gingerbread Bootloaders.
That is the one thing that is a little scary, but I know if anything flashes on to the screen im good to go, but just a little nervous, but am seriously considering just using the Odin One Click, and just praying that it at least flashes the AT&T screen then off like it normally does.
But I dont know if it'll work the same with GB, I know its mostly in my head but hahahaha
EDIT: I havent used One Click in a while should I wipe my phone before? And secondly I assume disabling lagfix?
FLASHED ONE CLICK.... Going now I will keep it posted when I get back to stock.
the bootloaders though flash went well so I think im in the clear. Lets hope : D
UPDATE: It soft bricked, Jig--> now on Stock.
THANKS SO MUCH!
No problem man.
TRUST THE ZOMBIE!!
Well, you started the topic, so...
I have gone back and forth one cycle now. GR-10, then Odin one-click to ancient stock, (no master clear), reboot recovery by reinstalling packages (update.zip still there), flash Serendipity 6 (rom cwm still on the phone), then restore from my Nandroid backup, and update calls, texts, and some apps. Takes maybe 30 minutes. On continuum now, since it's the only JVH rom.
I'm wondering if I can skip a step. They say the GB bootloaders are fine with Froyo. If so, I should be able to go download mode, flash Onix in Odin (no auto reboot - since the kernel and rom will be incompatible), then pull the battery, boot to recovery by holding volume-up/power, and simply load the old nandroid backup (since I would have the same kernel - Onix - and same modem - JQ1 - as I had when I created the backup). The backup contains the Dalvik cache, IIRC, so I wouldn't even have to clear that. That's about 5 minutes, plus the time it takes to restore newer messages, apps, etc - maybe 15 minutes total.
Does anyone know why this wouldn't work in theory?
Soccer_Dad said:
Well, you started the topic, so...
I have gone back and forth one cycle now. GR-10, then Odin one-click to ancient stock, (no master clear), reboot recovery by reinstalling packages (update.zip still there), flash Serendipity 6 (rom cwm still on the phone), then restore from my Nandroid backup, and update calls, texts, and some apps. Takes maybe 30 minutes. On continuum now, since it's the only JVH rom.
I'm wondering if I can skip a step. They say the GB bootloaders are fine with Froyo. If so, I should be able to go download mode, flash Onix in Odin (no auto reboot - since the kernel and rom will be incompatible), then pull the battery, boot to recovery by holding volume-up/power, and simply load the old nandroid backup (since I would have the same kernel - Onix - and same modem - JQ1 - as I had when I created the backup). The backup contains the Dalvik cache, IIRC, so I wouldn't even have to clear that. That's about 5 minutes, plus the time it takes to restore newer messages, apps, etc - maybe 15 minutes total.
Does anyone know why this wouldn't work in theory?
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please read post 3
i wrote it. i know its there..
was trying to flash one of the new gb betas from one of the not quite as new betas without doing the wipes. now i have the random colored pixel of death screen. probably doesnt help that i was below 15% either. im charging then gonna try a 2.1 or 2.2 odin restore.
let this be a learning experience for those who are trying to flash. make sure your battery is at least 50% (doesnt take but 20 or 30 minutes to get there from nothing) and make sure you wipe your cache/dalv before anything else. the options are within recovery mode. if you dont know how to do it, do enough research to make sure you know how to do it in your sleep.
well, after a 10 minute charge, i tried again, flashing jf6. i can now get into 2e. gonna let it charge for a half hour or so from the wall then try again with the latest beta.
Charging had nothing to do with it, you didn't flash GB bootloaders with the ROM.
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b-eock said:
Charging had nothing to do with it, you didn't flash GB bootloaders with the ROM.
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nope, of corse i didnt, because i already had the i897 att gb boot loaders from kh3. no need to take that extra risk when i already have them. but i never clarified that so my bad.
running I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0 (odin 1 click) twice fixed everything.
there are other cases on these forums though of the same issue, all suggesting that the lack of charge was the issue.
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nope, of corse i didnt, because i already had the i897 att gb boot loaders from kh3. no need to take that extra risk when i already have them. but i never clarified that so my bad.
running I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0 (odin 1 click) twice fixed everything.
there are other cases on these forums though of the same issue, all suggesting that the lack of charge was the issue.
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FYI: Any leak after KF1 doesn't have the full BL's in it. So unless you are on a previous leak of GB for the Captivate, you have to flash BL's again!
That puts you back on stock eclair BL, you will need to flash KF1 bootloaders(the AT&T GB BL) and then your Preferred ROM.
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BloodSkin said:
nope, of corse i didnt, because i already had the i897 att gb boot loaders from kh3. no need to take that extra risk when i already have them. but i never clarified that so my bad.
running I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0 (odin 1 click) twice fixed everything.
there are other cases on these forums though of the same issue, all suggesting that the lack of charge was the issue.
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The charge doesn't have the pixel effect you had, that was all due to having incompatible BL's
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Well, since you flashed jf6 (twice), you sure don't have GB bootloaders now. Use either cezar's one click bootloader package, or the full Odin version in my sig.
This has happened to me once - when I tried flashing the latest (as of two days ago) Platypus kernel over a Miui 1.10 installation.
My protocol to overcome this has been standard since I started playing around with ROMs:
1) 1-click restore using Odin (thank heaven I have one computer still running Windows).
2) Flash to GB bootloaders using the procedure described on the Serendipity VII site.
3) Re-flash the ROM.
Hasn't failed so far.
why do people still flash jf6? thats retarded.
What would you suggest in place of jf6?
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What would you suggest in place of jf6?
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Something with up to date bootloaders, like any of the gingerbread leaks. Flashing old bootloaders only forces you to flash new bootloaders again... flashing bootloaders is the most dangerous part of flashing. Why not try and avoid flashing them as much as possible?
ok i see since it has been so long since all the rogers development started people dont really remember about all the rainbow problems and how they were fixed and how the fix needs source code.
we now have bootloaders available in leaks from samsung. they are needed with the stock kernels that come in the leaks to avoid rainbow garbage. i am providing the bootloaders to be flashed in heimdall without having to flash a whole rom.
i would like to make this explicitly clear that if this bricks your phone i am not to blame. there is a significant risk when flashing bootloaders! though the infuse seems to have safety measures i strongly recommend only flashing once. and if your phone becomes a brick you will need to solder things to the phone to fix it via j-tag or adam outlers unbrickable mod. be cautious! dont flash boot.bin without sbl.bin, dont flash sbl.bin without boot.bin, dont mix up the partitions, and if the phone bricks i dont want to know about it unless you want to pay me to fix it!
heimdall package
http://www.multiupload.com/GXUTF4QCJX
odin package (untested)
http://www.multiupload.com.... REMOVED May be failing to flash. very dangerous situation...
bootloaders for heimdall to be added through the "flash" tab (unzip first! ibl/pbl-boot.bin, sbl-sbl.bin)
http://www.multiupload.com/NAIA23JZL1
good luck!
Thanks for posting this. Hopefully it will help out with leak questions that tend to get asked over and over again.
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Yeah. Thanks for posting, Dani.
do you know if there its any difference in bootloaders amongst different gingerbread leaks?
I have been running the first leaked gingerbread's bootloaders since Prezkit gave them to us and have had zero issues. I think it was kk1? I've been taking an "if it ain't broke" stance. its going good!
MattSoRaven said:
Yeah. Thanks for posting, Dani.
do you know if there its any difference in bootloaders amongst different gingerbread leaks?
I have been running the first leaked gingerbread's bootloaders since Prezkit gave them to us and have had zero issues. I think it was kk1? I've been taking an "if it ain't broke" stance. its going good!
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there is difs. but I couldn't tell you what. I saw posts by Linux bozo who did binary diferencials but I don't see any difference.
I know the bootloaders have a counter for customer kernels. if you flash the parameters.ifs from the ultimate unbrick it resets it. I also know they changed the galaxy s 2 bootloaders so it was harder to reset the counter so don't expect to be able to reset it when the official update comes along. I also have been using the "if it ain't broke " theory and honestly don't remember which I am using. the packages here are uckk3. if people can test if the counter can still be reset by flashing param.ifs let me know. ill post older bootloaders if it can't otherwise I can't think of any reason to pick one over another.
If i am flashing the bootloaders via odin does the .tar file go in the pda slot. thank you for this.
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If i am flashing the bootloaders via odin does the .tar file go in the pda slot. thank you for this.
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yes. that's how I would do it. the PDA slot seems to be automatic as far as partition sorting. the phone slot is for modems but if a modem is included in a package for the PDA slot it flashes just fine. the bootloaders are in the PDA packages normally so that's how I would do it.
please report results because I don't run windows and did not test that package.
I will report back once i get around to flashing the bootloaders. Thanks again for this.
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Dani897 said:
there is difs. but I couldn't tell you what. I saw posts by Linux bozo who did binary diferencials but I don't see any difference.
I know the bootloaders have a counter for customer kernels. if you flash the parameters.ifs from the ultimate unbrick it resets it. I also know they changed the galaxy s 2 bootloaders so it was harder to reset the counter so don't expect to be able to reset it when the official update comes along. I also have been using the "if it ain't broke " theory and honestly don't remember which I am using. the packages here are uckk3. if people can test if the counter can still be reset by flashing param.ifs let me know. ill post older bootloaders if it can't otherwise I can't think of any reason to pick one over another.
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I've been using the UCKJ2 bootloaders since they came out with no issues.
Entropy512 said:
I've been using the UCKJ2 bootloaders since they came out with no issues.
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Same here.
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bigbadwolf311 said:
I will report back once i get around to flashing the bootloaders. Thanks again for this.
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Wonder if u can give me directions for the odin method. Should i put it in download mode like im flashing back to stock? Can i Flash this over a custom rom?
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Wonder if u can give me directions for the odin method. Should i put it in download mode like im flashing back to stock? Can i Flash this over a custom rom?
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don't select repartition, no need for a pit, the rom shouldn't matter, the file should go in the PDA slot. remember I haven't tested it in Odin. I don't run windows and have little interest in using Odin for anything. phone needs to be in download mode just like flahong a rom. it should only take a second or two to flash. good luck
Cool i should be able to figure this out. Thanks for the quick response.
It didn't work. I had auto restart, f.reset and the PDA slot checked after i opened the file in the PDA slot and after clicking start it just sat at setup for 45 min until i gave up and flashed back to stock. I had to pull the cord while in download mode and the screen turned black with green dots so i had to flash blindly. I tried it twice and the same thing. Has anyone else tried this?
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It didn't work. I had auto restart, f.reset and the PDA slot checked after i opened the file in the PDA slot and after clicking start it just sat at setup for 45 min until i gave up and flashed back to stock. I had to pull the cord while in download mode and the screen turned black with green dots so i had to flash blindly. I tried it twice and the same thing. Has anyone else tried this?
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I have a bunch of downloads but nobody reported anything at all till now.
ill pull the Odin version for now. try it in heimdall. its not any harder to use.
Can you post an odin package.
I had an Odin package. I got a few downloads, didn't get any people thanking for it, didn't get any positive feedback that it worked and had one user report problems, see the last couple posts. I pulled the file for lack of evidence that it worked. I don't run windows and prefer heimdall so I haven't tested it in Odin. sorry but I suggest you either flash an entire rom leak then flash a non secure kernel through Odin ( any custom kernel should do also flashing back to stock should also do just fine) and then flash a rom or learn heimdall which works on windows as well as Mac and Linux. I would have done a oneclick package but it still requires the installation of the heimdall back end and I figured it was really no harder to just use the heimdall package system.
any chance of relink thats not at multiupload?
edit: disregard, found a workaround. might be useful in future tho.
I just flashed the one click ics leak. it worked okay, but it wasnt stable enough for me. So i want to go back to Gingerbread and wait for the official release. Im new to this rooting stuff. This was actually my first time doing it. So if someone could give me step by step directions ide greatly appreciate it. Im not stupid but i am new. I tried one way on getting back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348 it worked but it wouldnt let me update to 3.6 for one and two it tripped my flash counter !!!! so now im screwed on my warranty. Look, all i want is to go back to stock. please help me guys. Step by step and links please. thanks.
Did you Odin the original recovery? Or do you still have CWM? If you still have CWM you can use the file from this link to reset your flash counter. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575712
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The only thing i know hoe to do it pull up odin, put the tar file in pda and hit start. But i used the one click thigh for the ics i flashed. The one click is different then odin. But does anyone have just a stock file? Like completely stock like nothing ever happened? When i get back to stock or if i get back to stock cant i just recover my back-up? lol plz and thank you guys
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This is what happens when you don't read and just start flashing away with the first thing you can find. I wanna help, but I almost feel like I shouldn't. I mean, if you just read the stickies you would know how to fix this.
If u look through the threads I believe Konane has a thread for returning to stock..but there is a way..not sure of the exact step order but using Odin flash stock tar file then the reset flash count...then the stock recovery..I'll look to see if I can find a link.
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Under skyrocket Development under stickies Its KOnane return to stock
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what?
i didnt start flashing away. i backed out of rooting 5 times before i did it because i COMPLETLY sure on what i was doing. and i already did the konan tutorial and yes it does work. but it wont let you get at&t updates. and thats a big problem. from what i was reading about konan's tar is that it wasnt a official stock gingerbread. i went to sammobile to get the official stock file. and i did but the file is in MD5 format and i wasnt sure if i could just put that in odin under pda and go about or not. you guys know? but i DID do sooo much reading and researching before i rooted. thanks guys i really appreciate it. you have no idea
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i didnt start flashing away. i backed out of rooting 5 times before i did it because i COMPLETLY sure on what i was doing. and i already did the konan tutorial and yes it does work. but it wont let you get at&t updates. and thats a big problem. from what i was reading about konan's tar is that it wasnt a official stock gingerbread. i went to sammobile to get the official stock file. and i did but the file is in MD5 format and i wasnt sure if i could just put that in odin under pda and go about or not. you guys know? but i DID do sooo much reading and researching before i rooted. thanks guys i really appreciate it. you have no idea
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Yes you can, sammobile is complete. Just extract from the zip and flash in odin
I had to install cwm to my device after flashing back to stock and flash the uckk1 radio and use the reset flash counter zip. Then I flashed stock cwm in Odin rebooted and was able to receive the update to 2.3.6. Which breaks wallpaper scrolling. My only grip about it.
Just flash the stock radio that will solve your problem of not receiving ota updates.
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read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652398, it will tell u had to restore to stock and might reset ur counter, if counter is not reset there is a fix for that too now