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HTC Sensation or the Tmobile G2X?

I'm stumbled between these 2 device on T-Mobile.
Even though the Sensation has 768 MB ram, and the G2X has 512mb ram, from all the videos I seen on youtube, the G2X seems a lot faster than the Sensation.
From gaming point of view, which will get more support? the Geforce ULP or the Adreno?

There is already a good thread comparing the two phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120184
An app called Tegra zone made by Nvidia list games designed for the Tegra 2 devices.
I think there are current about 10 games on the list. I have some games on the Xoom, and the visual quality is excellent. Not sure how much improvement you will see on a smaller screen.

Bigmille said:
There is already a good thread comparing the two phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120184
There is also an app called Tegra zone made by Nvidia list games designed for the Tegra 2 devices.
I think there are current about 10 games on the list. I have some games on the Xoom, and the visual quality is excellent. Not sure how much improvement you will see on a smaller screen.
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I wonder if a stock HTC Sensation will run faster than a G2X.

To test it, we will need to root our phone and use app like SystemApp Remover to disable Sense, install ADW luncher on both devices and try it out.

Bigmille said:
To test it, we will need to root our phone and use app like SystemApp Remover to disable Sense, install ADW luncher on both devices and try it out.
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Ja ja ja, no root no nothing just out of the box.
If you want just call HTC ,cry and tell them that Sense sucks.
Sent from my EaglesBlood G2X

I think you have misunderstood me, I was not complaining about Sense or lack of root. I was just point out a fair way to test the speed of both devices, which requires rooting our phone.
This is my 1st HTC android device, I'm currently enjoying the Sense overlay, and don't think it "sucks".

The fair is two units out of the box.
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I had the g2x for two weeks and that thing was noticeably faster than the sensation running sense or adw without root/vanilla android. But the battery life was terrible on the g2x and I prefer the screen, form factor, and camera on the sensation.
I am actually surprised how nice sense is compared to the last time I used it. Big fan if they can get some of the slowness out of it.
Either way both phones are sweet.

I owned the G2X before the Sensation and was disappointed. The battery life was terrible and I had problems syncing it with my car's BT. I think the fact that T-Mobile is still "out of stock" of the G2X on their website speaks volumes about the phone. It has issues.
I have no complaints about the Sensation.

I'll let you know tomorrow when my Sensation arrives. The G2x is a very fast phone, it's just chalk full of odd bugs that in the end, were driving me nuts. I'll put them head to head and see which one I like the most.

I own both, and because of the data issues I'd say the g2x. The Sensation has a better feel and look imo. Audio is better on the g2x.
I think once the bootloader is unlocked on the sensation, it'll be a beast.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

The Sensation by a country mile.

jlevy73 said:
I'll let you know tomorrow when my Sensation arrives. The G2x is a very fast phone, it's just chalk full of odd bugs that in the end, were driving me nuts. I'll put them head to head and see which one I like the most.
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I also own both and the sensation wins with me hands down. I hate the g2x a total waste of my money so far I have no complaints with my sensation I am using adw so I don't have to fool around with sense but I do miss the contacts/dialer app of vanilla android

I had the g2x and sent it back. Non of the Rome are particularly special. The screen is really nice, but the phone has bugs. I prefer the button layout on sensation, though its not stellar sensation at least has a notification led, and g2x GPS doesn't work. Like, at all.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk

G2x was way faster. fastest android phone i've ever used. I didn't even think android was capable of being that speedy.
like someone else said, with the g2x i had to manually connect the bluetooth everytime i turned on the car.
Sensation connects immediately and hasn't given me any bluetooth hiccups. Only phone i've owned i can say that about.
I love sense, but i hate the overall slowness of the phone. Might be sense, or screen, or whatever, but g2x was blazing for me. sensation..... usable. not fast, and the lag isn't terrible but enough to notice.
The feel/form factor of the sensation is awesome. Feels like a true successor to the Nexus One. Unlike the Nexus S.
Hopefully once the sensation is rooted someone will make a ROM that makes it speedy while retaining Sense.
I dunno about this battery life thing though. Unplugged it (sensation) around 1230. It's 955 and power saver came on. I keep the screen brightness all the way down, all radios on except gps, gmail on push, yahoo/fb/twitter on refresh every 2 hours (update on screen unlock too).
The last Nexus one i had (ironically with the sense 3.0 rom), i unplugged it on a friday evening, monday morning it was around 30%. same radio/app setup as the sensation.
Oh, and for some reason the sense keyboard works much better than swype.

I was willing to trust LG with buying a phone (I use it for business also), and that was my biggest mistake.
The phone looks like someone just threw together a phone, without spending much time on testing. It has SO MANY issues that come right out of stock, that is unforgivable.
Ive had plenty of phones, and the only phone that was worst than the LG was the G1 - only because it was the first phone with android.
I just got the HTC and I must say im impressed with it, so far it seems really stable. Plus it feels better, it looks better and it acts better.
Forget about the LG, nobody should get that phone, because LG might think that their phone was a success, and they might make another one.
You are better off getting the MyTouch 4g instead of the G2x, but if you are wondering between the Sensation and the G2x - deff. get the Sensation.

I will be getting the Sensation on the 15th and I am currently using the G2X. After I play around with the Sensation, I will decide which one I am giving to my wife. I was one of the lucky ones who got a G2X with absolutely NO bugs and a great battery. There's no doubt that the G2X is faster and snappier than the Sensation so it all comes down to form. Hold both of them and see which one you like better. Also ask yourself if you want Sense or Vanilla. In my opinion the Sensation looks better but the G2X providing you get one with no bugs, performs better.

jrwingate6 said:
I will be getting the Sensation on the 15th and I am currently using the G2X. After I play around with the Sensation, I will decide which one I am giving to my wife. I was one of the lucky ones who got a G2X with absolutely NO bugs and a great battery. There's no doubt that the G2X is faster and snappier than the Sensation so it all comes down to form. Hold both of them and see which one you like better. Also ask yourself if you want Sense or Vanilla. In my opinion the Sensation looks better but the G2X providing you get one with no bugs, performs better.
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Hopefully you'll get a sensation without any bugs or major issues. I had the g2x, it was great but I just didn't like stock vanilla.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

Robboftw said:
The Sensation by a country mile.
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I wouldn't call it a country mile. The only way I would call it a country mile was if the Sensation performed better than the G2X. The only phone I would call a country mile over the G2X would be the SGSII because it both looks better and performs better than the G2X. The Sensation only looks better.

jrwingate6 said:
I wouldn't call it a country mile. The only way I would call it a country mile was if the Sensation performed better than the G2X. The only phone I would call a country mile over the G2X would be the SGSII because it both looks better and performs better than the G2X. The Sensation only looks better.
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You worry far too much about some things. It may not score as high in benchmarks but they are benchmarks, its a PHONE for god sake!
All I have seen you do is complain, I don't even know why you are bothering to get one if you think its so awful...

G2X to Sensation

Ok, here's my opinion and comparison between the two, which I waited two weeks handling the sensation before posting.
The G2X was awesome without its fault the first couple days I had it. It was fast and reliable, simple to its core running the stock froyo. I miss the G2X to tell you guys the truth, and would have kept it if issues were solved, but I really couldn't wait months before an update are sent out. Even if updates are sent out it is still a gamble whether or not it will function the way it should. Paying a premium price for a phone should get you a near flawless device that should keep you happy for atleast a year or two, and shouldn't give you so much hassle that you can't use it due to bootloop for a whole day while you are out.
The HTC Sensation, so far, is working flawlessly. The lag people are talking about is pure nonsense. If you do remove most of the widgets that is running when you first turn on the device it should work without any lag, and people shouldn't really have that much widgets running.
Build Quality:
They are pretty much the same here. The G2X does feel more plasticky in the back, but it didn't really annoy me. The only thing about the sensation I didn't like are the power and volume buttons. They look like they will fall off any minute compared to the G2X which looked solid.
Screen:
The screen on the G2X does pop out more compared to the Sensation, but the resolution fares much better like it should on the latter device. I have to say the screen on the Sensation is amazing even under the sunlight. The only annoyance I have is that you have to go under settings to turn on the automatic dimmer because it is not on the power widget. Browsing the web is also better on the Sensation since you can see more with higher resolution. I have not experienced any of the issues they have posted such as dust, and touch sensitivity. Comparing to the G2X the touch sensitivity fares better on the sensation. I remember that sometimes I had to swipe the unlock button twice on the G2X, but haven't had that issue on the Sensation. The new sense UI is cool, that's all and will give you entertainment for 5mins.
Volume:
This is where I saw a really big difference. The G2X is far superior when it comes to the sound of the loudspeaker. I can hear the sensation's notifications just fine, but with the G2X I can hear it without any problem from another room and I can't say the same thing with the HTC. For this amount I would expect HTC to fit a better speaker, although, it doesn't annoy me since I usually have my phone on vibrate.
I like the Sensation, and I think that it is a superior quality to the G2X. Although, I do miss my G2X too.

m918v said:
Ok, here's my opinion and comparison between the two, which I waited two weeks handling the sensation before posting.
The G2X was awesome without its fault the first couple days I had it. It was fast and reliable, simple to its core running the stock froyo. I miss the G2X to tell you guys the truth, and would have kept it if issues were solved, but I really couldn't wait months before an update are sent out. Even if updates are sent out it is still a gamble whether or not it will function the way it should. Paying a premium price for a phone should get you a near flawless device that should keep you happy for atleast a year or two, and shouldn't give you so much hassle that you can't use it due to bootloop for a whole day while you are out.
The HTC Sensation, so far, is working flawlessly . The lag people are talking about is pure nonsense. If you do remove most of the widgets that is running when you first turn on the device it should work without any lag, and people shouldn't really have that much widgets running.
Build Quality:
They are pretty much the same here. The G2X does feel more plasticky in the back, but it didn't really annoy me. The only thing about the sensation I didn't like are the power and volume buttons. They look like they will fall off any minute compared to the G2X which looked solid.
Screen:
The screen on the G2X does pop out more compared to the Sensation, but the resolution fares much better like it should on the latter device. I have to say the screen on the Sensation is amazing even under the sunlight. The only annoyance I have is that you have to go under settings to turn on the automatic dimmer because it is not on the power widget. Browsing the web is also better on the Sensation since you can see more with higher resolution. I have not experienced any of the issues they have posted such as dust, and touch sensitivity. Comparing to the G2X the touch sensitivity fares better on the sensation. I remember that sometimes I had to swipe the unlock button twice on the G2X, but haven't had that issue on the Sensation. The new sense UI is cool, that's all and will give you entertainment for 5mins.
Volume:
This is where I saw a really big difference. The G2X is far superior when it comes to the sound of the loudspeaker. I can hear the sensation's notifications just fine, but with the G2X I can hear it without any problem from another room and I can't say the same thing with the HTC. For this amount I would expect HTC to fit a better speaker, although, it doesn't annoy me since I usually have my phone on vibrate.
I like the Sensation, and I think that it is a superior quality to the G2X. Although, I do miss my G2X too.
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This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...

As a person who went from a G2X to a Sensation I agree with pretty much everything you say. I think you got the Sharp panel for your display which is why you think the G2X pops more. The AUO panel found in done Sensations is super bright with vibrant colors that pop almost as much as a Super AMOLED. I have handled 4 Sensations and trip of them have been laggy due to the person keeping the UI animations, weather animation and a HTC widget on every page. The Sensation I have only has the click widget with 4 pages worth of icons and it is buttery smooth.
Tell me if you notice a difference in these areas.
-App speed: I have found that most apps load and interact faster on the Sensation such as Google Maps which loads and zooms twice as fast than it does on the G2X.
-Flash Videos: Play smoother on the Sensation.
-Contacts app: Scroll faster than on the G2X which would stutter a little bit. Also my contacts pictures on my G2X would take a second to load when scrolling but they are instantly there as I scroll on the Sensation.
-Display: After looking at the Sensation for a couple days, do the icons and peters look fuzzy on the G2X?
All in all. I think once we get the Sensation rooted and this bloatware off of it, this phone will be a super beast.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

smashpunks said:
This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...
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I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

jrwingate6 said:
I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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I am curious about this. The unit I played with look like garbage compared to my G2x. The contrast was horrible on the Sensation. Washed out blacks and poor visibility in sunlight. I was not aware there are two different panels available. Is there a manufacturing date to look for? How can you tell before you purchase if you are getting the good panel?

jrwingate6 said:
I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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I didn't really say that the display is bad compared to the G2X. The only reason I say this is because I was looking at the display through maybe 60-75% brightness to save battery, plus I don't want to get blinded. Full brightness then yes sensation does look really good.

Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.

cenwesi said:
Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.
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And you dont have 2.3 because...? exactly

m918v said:
And you dont have 2.3 because...? exactly
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comparing an official 2.3 build to a leaked/incomplete version isn't exactly fair.. Even comparing to CM wouldn't be because it isn't even in RC yet. just saying...

regP said:
comparing an official 2.3 build to a leaked/incomplete version isn't exactly fair.. Even comparing to CM wouldn't be because it isn't even in RC yet. just saying...
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i know. waiting for that update is what urged me to switch

cenwesi said:
Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.
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Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.

smashpunks said:
This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...
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What did you do with your G2x?
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Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.
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No offense, but it seems that you are quite enamored with the sensation. You post the exact same thing in the threads of the two, and what I'm wondering is since love your sensation so much, why hang around here with our "inferior" g2xs?
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jrwingate6 said:
Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.
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Well sure, we can compare iOS to Android... but with Android, there are lots of optimizations in GB could make a big difference in numbers.
A good test is Stock G2x and Stock Sensation (2.2.2 vs 2.3.3) just as a good base. The true test comes when both are running official versions of the same software (2.3.3 vs 2.3.3).
GPU Accelerated OS parts aren't even included until GB so the G2x should feel faster on GB.
Even a G2x CM7 test wouldn't be fair because while they are on the same OS, CM has always had lower numbers (for some reason).
CM7 on Sensation and G2x would be a perfect test.

player911 said:
Well sure, we can compare iOS to Android... but with Android, there are lots of optimizations in GB could make a big difference in numbers.
A good test is Stock G2x and Stock Sensation (2.2.2 vs 2.3.3) just as a good base. The true test comes when both are running official versions of the same software (2.3.3 vs 2.3.3).
GPU Accelerated OS parts aren't even included until GB so the G2x should feel faster on GB.
Even a G2x CM7 test wouldn't be fair because while they are on the same OS, CM has always had lower numbers (for some reason).
CM7 on Sensation and G2x would be a perfect test.
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Agree. The best comparison for me is both phones right out of the box since we can't get apples to apples until GB is released for G2x.

Why does it HAVE to be apples to apples?
I have a T-mobile contract for another 6 months. I want the best phone on that T-mobile contract I can get. I am going to compare every T-mobile phone to every T-mobile phone and choose the best one for me. Its about comparing one device that is available to you to another device that is available to you. If I can root it and load a custom ROM on it to make it better I will consider that as best I can in my decision making... because it is available to me. Also, if something changes about a device and makes it a better option later on I will have to weigh that and consider switching because what is available to me changed.

greengoldmello said:
No offense, but it seems that you are quite enamored with the sensation. You post the exact same thing in the threads of the two, and what I'm wondering is since love your sensation so much, why hang around here with our "inferior" g2xs?
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I am enamored with the Sensation and I will be enamored when the Hercules gets released. I still play with my G2X and still do like it. There are some games I can't play on my Sensation that I love playing on the G2X and I still use the G2X to get my hack on.
Just because I extensively used both devices side by side (unlike most of the people here) and decided that the Sensation was the better all around device due to a number of reasons doesn't mean I don't like the G2X anymore and for that matter doesn't mean I don't use it anymore.
I have already stated the things the G2X does better than the Sensation. If those reasons were enough to use it as my main device then I would return the Sensation in a heart beat as I am not tied to either one. I understand some people are tied to the G2X and will defend it until there contract runs out but quite frankly, I could give a two ****s less about defending devices just because I own them. The things I think the G2X does better might be important to you and that's why you choose to use it. The categories the Sensation does better in are more important to me and is why I use it as my daily driver.
Bottom line. I still use my G2X and my Nexus S for that matter every day and until I stop using them, I will not stop browsing there respected forums.
By the way. I guess you didn't see my post yesterday saying good things about the G2X...uh?

DECIM8 said:
Why does it HAVE to be apples to apples?
I have a T-mobile contract for another 6 months. I want the best phone on that T-mobile contract I can get. I am going to compare every T-mobile phone to every T-mobile phone and choose the best one for me. Its about comparing one device that is available to you to another device that is available to you. If I can root it and load a custom ROM on it to make it better I will consider that as best I can in my decision making... because it is available to me. Also, if something changes about a device and makes it a better option later on I will have to weigh that and consider switching because what is available to me changed.
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+1 my friend. This is exactly how I feel. When it comes down to it. NOTHING is going to be apples to apples. It's always oranges in the mobile world and people have an excuse for everything. Compare the available devices no matter what kind of fruit they are and just go with it.

I will say I honestly love both devices. I had 2 g2x's and my daughter has one. I traded one of them in a trade for a sensation and the 2nd one I had sent back to LG for repair(should be here friday) I will admit I do miss my G2X a bit. I'm looking forward to getting my other one back and restoring it to the way my other one was before I traded it off

I hate sense that's y sensation sucks
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk

Thinking of getting rid of Sensation for g2x....

The sensation is a great phone, but there are some things that bother me about it. Sense 3.0 is just too much...uses too many resources. The screen is decent, but I still can't figure out why the g2x screen I saw in person looks better (maybe because the g2x is an IPS screen?), and the speaker on the sensation is terrible (how is the speaker on the g2x)?
I've been reading that the official gingerbread update has (so far) fixed some issues that the g2x had, which is why I'm thinking about making the switch.
Any opinions on this?

honestly as this recent leak is, cm7 is still better and more stable with alot of extra features, until t-mo releases the official ota with upgraded baseband and upgraded to a gingerbread kernel, this update is still inferior to cm7 imo
gingerbread is still far off, if this is the latest rom LG has, then i wouldnt say its close to being pushed to t-mo for review wich still leaves us a few months away from anything official, unless they really plan to make the final update run on a kernel that doesnt even fully support the tegra 2 chip.

brian85 said:
The sensation is a great phone, but there are some things that bother me about it. Sense 3.0 is just too much...uses too many resources. The screen is decent, but I still can't figure out why the g2x screen I saw in person looks better (maybe because the g2x is an IPS screen?), and the speaker on the sensation is terrible (how is the speaker on the g2x)?
I've been reading that the official gingerbread update has (so far) fixed some issues that the g2x had, which is why I'm thinking about making the switch.
Any opinions on this?
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if your looking to swap it for a g2x and t-mo doesnt allow the exchange i have my g2x ill trade to you for it ive been trying to get a sensation

G2x in my opinion with new update stock works great for me. In my opinion I think its the best phone out there right now.
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Came from Sensation. Haven't looked back.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Came from Sensation. Haven't looked back.
Sent from my LG G2x
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Wise man listen to him..
Faux123 for Dev!!!

brian85 said:
The sensation is a great phone, but there are some things that bother me about it. Sense 3.0 is just too much...uses too many resources. The screen is decent, but I still can't figure out why the g2x screen I saw in person looks better (maybe because the g2x is an IPS screen?), and the speaker on the sensation is terrible (how is the speaker on the g2x)?
I've been reading that the official gingerbread update has (so far) fixed some issues that the g2x had, which is why I'm thinking about making the switch.
Any opinions on this?
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if you still want to trade you sensation let me know... i have a g2x since its release never exchanged it and never have problems no reboots not frezzes no nothing...
one of my friends have the sensation and i loved it!! pm me if your interesting

I also have a g2x i am selling if your interested. I just got it as a replacement from tmobile so it looks completely brand new. Ill even throw in an 8gb microsd card with for free. Pm me if your interested
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

Both phones are great. Had the G2x but switched it out for the sensation. I have no regrets because the G2x was very problematic. I guess I was one of those unlucky ones that got a bad g2x (reboots, freezes, shutdowns, etc).....and I had 2 G2x and both phones were bad and I didn't want to wait for the update lol. However, a working nondefective G2x is a beast phone nonetheless. It's faster than the sensation imo.
The sensation on the other hand is also a great phone. And im Lucky that I got a nondefective one from the start. I prefer the sensation over the G2x but it all comes down to the user itself.
Im not boasting or bragging or putting down any phone, just stating my personal experiances with these phones.
Hope you get the phone you want...
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turbo_k said:
Both phones are great. Had the G2x but switched it out for the sensation. I have no regrets because the G2x was very problematic. I guess I was one of those unlucky ones that got a bad g2x (reboots, freezes, shutdowns, etc).....and I had 2 G2x and both phones were bad and I didn't want to wait for the update lol. However, a working nondefective G2x is a beast phone nonetheless. It's faster than the sensation imo.
The sensation on the other hand is also a great phone. And im Lucky that I got a nondefective one from the start. I prefer the sensation over the G2x but it all comes down to the user itself.
Im not boasting or bragging or putting down any phone, just stating my personal experiances with these phones.
Hope you get the phone you want...
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The g2x is an awesome gaming phone with all the tegra games and stuff.
The sensation i feel is a little more boring but more reliable and professional looking. Also i noticed that by disabling sense and the bloatware that cane with the phone, ive been able to make it as fast if not faster than the g2x. Specially the browsing. I dont have the problem where it takes a while for the browser to open abd once it opens its seems to reopen the last website, which i belive was due to my g2x running low on memory.
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Wise man listen to him..
Faux123 for Dev!!!
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I second.
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Wanna trade? I have a 25 day old G2x!
brian85 said:
The sensation is a great phone, but there are some things that bother me about it. Sense 3.0 is just too much...uses too many resources. The screen is decent, but I still can't figure out why the g2x screen I saw in person looks better (maybe because the g2x is an IPS screen?), and the speaker on the sensation is terrible (how is the speaker on the g2x)?
I've been reading that the official gingerbread update has (so far) fixed some issues that the g2x had, which is why I'm thinking about making the switch.
Any opinions on this?
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I traded my g2x for a sensation, them back to the g2x. The g2x is way better..
Sensation wifi was horrid..

Kept my G2X but use my Sensation as my daily driver. The only time I really pick the G2X up is to play Tegra games or flash ROMS. Like someone else said, if you keep Sense on the Sensation, your phone will be laggy. HTC did a horrible job of optimizing the new version of Sense. If you load ADW on the Sensation, the UI will become as fast, if not faster than the G2X. Loading apps, using Google maps and browsing the web has always been faster on the Sensation than on the G2X whether your running Sense or not. Getting rid of Sense and stopping it from running makes the UI as responsive as one could get.
Can't go wrong with either phone. I didn't have a bad experience with either of them (until I loaded GB onto my G2X). Some people had a bad experience with the G2X and went to the Sensation. Some people had a bad experience with the Sensation and came back to the G2X. To each his own.
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Well, looks like I'm keeping my sensation.
Installed launcherpro, and for some reason it even opens up apps quicker now (even though sense 3.0 is still there running in the background). I also love the fact that I can still use the sense 3.0 lockscreen with launcherpro. Phones feels like an entirely new beast now.

brian85 said:
Well, looks like I'm keeping my sensation.
Installed launcherpro, and for some reason it even opens up apps quicker now (even though sense 3.0 is still there running in the background). I also love the fact that I can still use the sense 3.0 lockscreen with launcherpro. Phones feels like an entirely new beast now.
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Yea man...Sense sucks anyway. The only things good about it is the lock screen, sms app, contacts and email. Everything else is just annoying eye candy. Good part about using a launcher is you get to keep all of that without the eye candy.
Check your available memory now. It should be somewhere around 300. Also, if you think LP is fast, check out ADW.
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If you are a developer then get the G2x, but if you are looking for a overall solid phone for day to day use, keep the Sensation. But if you don't etheir one, then can't go wrong with either phone. The Sensation is more powerful as it uses a better GPU.
The screen on the sensation is superior in some ways, just overall looks sharper and alot more more detail. But the G2x, colors look more vibrant.
WiFi issue I notice to, if you touch around the top area and when signal is fair, then drops, but with a stonger signal, not as bad. Notice it doesn't affect the other radio's inside.
But the G2x seem quicker, but battery last more longer on the sensation, I guess theirs tradeoff's ethier way you look at it.
Long term Sensation is a better choice, In quadrant test score lower due to screen resolution is higher and does affect the score, but CPU/GPU is better in the Sensation as it use a powerful 1.2GHz dual-core Snapdragon processor with Adreno 220 GPU, which is known to outpreform the Nvidia terga 2 chipset, only thing lacking is the ram which is 768MB LPDDR2, which is good, they sure have when to 1gb. Alot of people think the Samsung Galaxy s2 is going to be faster, it's not, it only use a Adreno 205 GPU, but the ddr II 1gb ram helps but screen resolution also make a big different, put the same screen in all and see who wins?

I didn't have any problems with my G2X to begin with, but updated to the GB update and it runs even quicker and the battery life is also better.
One thing that deterred me from getting the Sensation was the locked bootloader and only 1gb of internal memory. Not all apps can be moved to the SD card. Plus I think the G2X looks sexy with it's curved Gorilla glass edges and sleek body. stock Vanilla is a big plus, and the dual speakers at the bottom of the phone and not on the back that get's muffled was another deciding factor. HTC always has crappy sounding speakers.

Saying Goodbye To this Phone, What are your Experiences with this Phone?

So, my dog broke my HTC Sensation 4G's screen ... Now getting Samsung Galaxy S II T-Mobile. This was a great phone. Learned many things about android. Learned about Security Off and On, Radios. Everything. It was pretty bad though with no Custom ROMs.So I want to know what did you think of this device and how it performs. Before a last goodbye.

SGSII is nice, I played with it while still in development. Reason I wouldn't get it? Low dev support. Sure, there's a whole bunch of support for the SGSII in other countries but that version is COMPLETELY different then the one your getting. ALL the guts are different right down to the display so everything that has been done to that one wont work on the one your getting. It's a US only version. Just my .02.
I trialed the Amaze (yes I work for TMO). It was nice, fast but not faster than my Sensation and DEFINATELY not faster customized. Again, it's issue is it is only a TMO phone so dev support will be low. It will be nothing like the Sensation.
On to the Sensation. Best phone I've ever used, hands down. Everytime I pick it up, I'm still amazed by what I can do with it and it's user interface. Yeah, Sense 3.0 has a long ways to go but its so nice to play with. Something new almost every day!

I gotta be honest, when I first got my Sensation I was quite disappointed with the horrible UI that comes with it out of the box. But then I flashed Senseless Extreme, which made it a lot more tolerable. Now that I have flashed CM7 I am completely happy and my phone is extremely fast and smooth. I couldn't ask for more. Much more fun to use than my old Nexus One. I just love the huge, brilliant screen and the awesome CPU.

I personally am disappointed in this phone, but I enjoy it at the same time. I find the fact that it isn't perfect is what makes it fun: fun to try to make it better by modding it. If I had a phone that I liked out of the box, I never would have discovered rooting and custom ROMs and the like. I only joined xda because I was so disappointed.
Overall, I will never buy a LCD display phone again, the poor software integration left me wanting, and problems like the crappy speaker and decidedly average battery life were disappointing. So I am disappointed, but this phone has opened me up to the Android world (1st android phone and 1st smartphone) and I'm excited to see what it can do with ICS. I'll milk this phone for what its worth for sure.
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I personally am disappointed in this phone, but I enjoy it at the same time. I find the fact that it isn't perfect is what makes it fun: fun to try to make it better by modding it. If I had a phone that I liked out of the box, I never would have discovered rooting and custom ROMs and the like. I only joined xda because I was so disappointed.
Overall, I will never buy a LCD display phone again, the poor software integration left me wanting, and problems like the crappy speaker and decidedly average battery life were disappointing. So I am disappointed, but this phone has opened me up to the Android world (1st android phone and 1st smartphone) and I'm excited to see what it can do with ICS. I'll milk this phone for what its worth for sure.
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Basically, +1 an all of your points

i had a sensation too and opted out for the galaxy S2 ,i wouldnt worry about the dev support fo the galaxy as is there already a few devs over there and iit will continue to grow. i just couldnt deal with the dust issue .when you send a phone back because of this and the one you get back has it worse than the one you sent then its a problem. with that being said i loved everything else about the sensation but it was time to move on as i was sick of getting replacement handsets. galaxy is a very nice phone and i dont think i went backward any

I sold my sensation for the SGSII with T-mobile and it's the best decision I've made. The sensation stock is such a piece of crap, but thanks to the devs the phone is decent. But its sucks that you have to root your phone in order to get good performance. The SGSII? Smokes the sensation in every category except screen resolution. But the Super AMOLED plus display makes up for it. If you haven't seen it in real life you don't know what I'm talking about. It's simply AMAZING. No wonder why it gets all the praises.

I wish I knew how you make this phone lag. Mine is completely stock and I have no lag at all and good battery life. Of course I have no dust issues either so maybe I got an anomaly
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I had the sensation, then switched to the amaze, then went back to the sensation. Played with the sgs2 and I hated the touchwiz ui crap. I know that is complete personal preference so personally it was enough for me to not get it and go back to the sensation. So I absolutely love my sensation. Even in stock form.

I heard a lot of complaining about the Sensation on this forum before I got it and I was pretty worried about buying it. When I played with it in the store, I thought it was a little laggy in scrolling and opening apps.
Buying it was the best phone decision I've made. I'm not a techno-wiz, but s-off, rooting and installing Android Revolution HD + the Bricked kernel was easy and has made the phone incredibly fast, usable and fun to use. Seriously the best phone I've ever used.

I went the other way I had a gs2 sold it why 2 reasons firstly the thing gets very very hot when playing games and I mean hot secondly its to thin uncomfortable to hold well it was for me. I then bought the sensation but lost my job so had to sell it I was gutted best phone iv ever had. Got a new job but bought a HTC desire s which iv still got but today iv just ordered a new sensation which ill get wensday carnt wait
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Got mine Friday rooted right away customized everything down to font. Hyper sensation cm7.1 rom overclock kernel 1.782 I think it is. Very stable and smooth. Fast. Excellent camera,battery life. Abdoluty no issues. Aldo fastest boot over had on any phone even after flashing new. Roms. Apps on SD, internal 1.5 avaliable out if 1.15 .
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This is the best phone I've had hands down. It took a lot to get it there but the best things in life... Well you gotta work for them. After getting CM7 and the anker 1900 battery this phone is a beast. I'm sure it'd kick the crap out of the tmo sgs 2.
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This is the best phone ive ever gotten myself..I played with the sgsii and it feels like a toy in your hands and i also hated the touchwiz ui..I was planning to get the amaze but the phone is way too thick and the design is crap compared to the sensation..

I love this phone. Got it on launch day and have had no real issues. Maybe I got lucky? I have insurance but have never had any reason to send it back.
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Love the phone! Came from Epic 4G, and I don't see myself ever buying a Samsung phone (unless, of course, it's a Nexus device!). It seems the TMO SGS2 might suffer a similar fate of having poor dev support as the Epic 4G because of the considerably different hardware (specifically the processor); they still haven't received Gingerbread, and no CM7 support (even the SGS1 hasn't received a stable CM7 build I believe).
Anyway, this was my first experience with Sense, and I have to say it blows TouchWiz out of the water, and offers some nice enhancements to stock Android (see camer). Despite the attractiveness of Sense, I put CM7 on this bad boy, and it is leaps and bounds better than the stock experience. Even tried going back to Sense, but a few hours later, I was restoring my Nandroid backup!
Take a look at CM7 benchmarks on the Sensation, you'll see that they are very comparable, if not better, than the stock SGS, which kind of suggests Sense is really bogging down the system.

Camera on the Sensation is great, and the resolution offers the most screen real estate that I've ever had on a phone. It's really fast, and does almost everything I want it to do. All it's missing now is Siri

I was disappointed in the phone at first, like some of you, but it has really started to grow on me. One thing that needs to happen, when you first get a sensation, is to S-Off, root it, and then put a modded ROM on it.
It doesn't even matter if it's a Sense mod, AOSP/CyanagenMod, or CyanagenMod - the stock needs to go to really get a feel for what this phone can do.
I actually like the LCD screen, although the SGSII's super-amoled screen is nice. I call it a toss-up.
I think what really did it for me was the realization that the software can be changed - but the hardware is much more difficult. This phone just feels better in my hand than the SGSII. I've been lucky enough not to have a "dust under the screen" problem (yet).
I dunno, maybe it's because I came from a clunky BlackBerry and an even clunkier OpenMoko.

I love this phone! I got it when all sensation still run as S_On and after while S_off and rooted this phone from 6/10 boost to 8/10 then someone on the this forum post out how to self unlock the phone without call the mobile provider it make it 9/10 to me. After flash custom rom and do some "Tweak" with the setting and skin. Even some iphone fanboy will play my phone while we hangout.

This phone is great. With a custom ROM it runs ultra fast. I recommend IC 3.3.1 with it.

G2x vs. Amaze vs. Sensation

I know this has been debated before but I am strongly considering getting rid of my G2x. I am just wondering what is the best of the 3 I listed. I know the Amaze has a 1.5 ghz dual core, the Sensation a 1.2 ghz dual core, and the G2x a 1 ghz dual core tegra 2. I know the G2x has the best graphics power (is this correct?) I just want stability and speed. Any suggestions here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Go try them all out in store and see for yourself.
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d12unk13astard said:
Go try them all out in store and see for yourself.
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Understood. But I was wondering if anyone had hands-on experience with custom ROM's etc. I know custom ROM's/kernels can completely change the speed/stability/ease of use of a phone...G2x prime example.

G2x probably has the best development community out of the 3. Amaze has the fastest CPU clock speed, but we can easily achieve that with custom kernels, and the .5GHz isn't much of a difference. Only thing you'd really want is that 1GB of RAM which isn't all that important. G2x is also the best looking out of the 3, and probably has the best display. (IPS-Display)

FatalityBoyZahy said:
G2x probably has the best development community out of the 3. Amaze has the fastest CPU clock speed, but we can easily achieve that with custom kernels, and the .5GHz isn't much of a difference. Only thing you'd really want is that 1GB of RAM which isn't all that important. G2x is also the best looking out of the 3, and probably has the best display. (IPS-Display)
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Thanks for reply. I wonder with the other 2 though if they experience the sleep of death aside from other G2x bugs we've seen.

I recently decided to get the Amaze, while deciding to keep the G2x as a backup phone.
Both devices are similar in terms of performance. I actually achieved higher benchmarks at 1.2 ghz on an overclocked G2x than I do on the Amaze at 1.5 ghz. However, in terms of real world use, I find the Amaze to be extremely quick and more reliable. There isn't much lag and Sense is beautiful when it's running on a capable device. Gaming performance is similar on both phones, but the G2x gets the slight edge because a lot of Gameloft's games don't seem to be supported on the Amaze yet. I also found that GTA 3 ran a little more smoothly on the G2x.
In terms of the physical design of the phone, I prefer the weight, larger screen, and overall build quality of the Amaze. The disclaimer here is that it's all very subjective. Perhaps you won't like the raised screen or the hefty weight of the device. Up to you to decide. You'd have to physically hold one to make a fair decicion. I can, however, say that if you like taking pictures, the Amaze camera is far superior. There is virtually no shutter lag, a plethora of options to play with, and pictures just come out looking far better than they do on the G2x.
The Achilles’ heel of the Amaze is its development situation. The phone can be rooted and the bootloader unlocked, but as of now, there is no S=off. Additionally, HTC has not completely opensourced everything (WiFi drivers). Therefore, the process for flashing roms is a little more complicated than it is on the G2x. Kernels on the Amaze generally are not flashed through recovery; kernels are flashed using a PC, an adb connection, and a kernel flashing tool. I don't find the process particularly difficult, but it requires more reading and understanding than flashing on the G2x does.
The developers on the Amaze are great, but there aren't that many and you're mostly restricted to Sense. Obviously I like Sense or I would not have purchased the phone, but if you hate it--stay away.
If you don't mind an inferior camera and more active development is a big deal to you, then the Sensation would probably be a good fit. Once its overclocked, it's very similar to an Amaze in real world use.

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The Amaze is beautiful.. I like the design of the g2x myself but I'm surprised anyone would think it looks better than the Amaze
Anyway, S2 (because of development) >= Amaze > G2x > Sensation IMO
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Completely agree.
Also RAM is very important. If you think it isn't your wrong. There is a reason why the Amaze can take photo's like a mad man yet the G2x is really slow at it. The RAM acts as buffer. Without it your files will just write to the sd card which is no where near as fast as RAM. If your not doing much on your phone and your running a bare bones launcher then yeah it's not needed.

There's no way in hell the G2x has the best development community... The Sensation is by far the best development phone out of the 3.
Personally? I'd chose the Sensation. Reasons are that it's a bigger 4.3'' qHD screen as opposed to the G2x's smaller 4'' HDPI screen. And the phone itself feels better than the G2x or Amaze. G2x is nice, but I like the slight curved feel of the Sensation, and the Amaze just feels like a brick. Didn't like it at all.
With the Sensation you get more choices and more ROM's/kernels. You get stable CM7's (maybe CM9 soon?), stable variety of Sense ROM's and a stable version of MIUI.
With the G2x, you get stable CM7, an iffy MIUI that's mostly stable but has it's own share of problems, and a stable LG based GB ROM; but we all know that LG based ROM sucks as LG's **** code gives it un-fixable bugs.
As for the Amaze, while it's an upgrade over the Sensation it still doesn't truly have S-OFF and development for that phone is stagnant to say the least. All you have are Sense ROM's and I don't really see that changing in the foreseeable future unless a whole bunch of devs suddenly get that phone and does something with it.
So for me it's the Sensation followed by the G2x, then the Amaze in last place out of the 3.
I love my G2x, but I'd probably rather have the Sensation as it has more RAM, a bigger and higher res screen, FAR more development and most importantly a processor in which the company actually releases the source unlike nVidia.
Good luck man.

I have the G2X Amaze and the SGS2, and i have to say that the Amaze had the best user experience.
If you're looking at development side though, the Sensation would be the one to go with at the moment. But the Amaze development is starting to pick up pretty fast.

pettigrew95 said:
I know this has been debated before but I am strongly considering getting rid of my G2x. I am just wondering what is the best of the 3 I listed. I know the Amaze has a 1.5 ghz dual core, the Sensation a 1.2 ghz dual core, and the G2x a 1 ghz dual core tegra 2. I know the G2x has the best graphics power (is this correct?) I just want stability and speed. Any suggestions here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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To bad your going to miss out. The Galaxy S2 is $79 after $50 MIR for the next few hours on t-mobile.com

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There's no way in hell the G2x has the best development community... The Sensation is by far the best development phone out of the 3.
Personally? I'd chose the Sensation. Reasons are that it's a bigger 4.3'' qHD screen as opposed to the G2x's smaller 4'' HDPI screen. And the phone itself feels better than the G2x or Amaze. G2x is nice, but I like the slight curved feel of the Sensation, and the Amaze just feels like a brick. Didn't like it at all.
With the Sensation you get more choices and more ROM's/kernels. You get stable CM7's (maybe CM9 soon?), stable variety of Sense ROM's and a stable version of MIUI.
With the G2x, you get stable CM7, an iffy MIUI that's mostly stable but has it's own share of problems, and a stable LG based GB ROM; but we all know that LG based ROM sucks as LG's **** code gives it un-fixable bugs.
As for the Amaze, while it's an upgrade over the Sensation it still doesn't truly have S-OFF and development for that phone is stagnant to say the least. All you have are Sense ROM's and I don't really see that changing in the foreseeable future unless a whole bunch of devs suddenly get that phone and does something with it.
So for me it's the Sensation followed by the G2x, then the Amaze in last place out of the 3.
I love my G2x, but I'd probably rather have the Sensation as it has more RAM, a bigger and higher res screen, FAR more development and most importantly a processor in which the company actually releases the source unlike nVidia.
Good luck man.
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qHD isn't that much of a difference, especially because the G2x has a slightly smaller screen. And you mean to tell me that every single LG-based G2x ROM is bad? Take a look at Bionix, Weapon G2x, and Ultimate G2x... Those ROMs are amazing. CM7 and MIUI are virtually bug-less, and run amazingly well. This just my opinion though.

Thanks for all the replies guy this is really tough...I think I may have narrowed out the Amaze due to lack of S-OFF and quiet dev community. Although, the S2 just got thrown into the mix haha. The S2 seems like a far superior device and I found this article regarding the graphics power of the S2:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the T-Mobile Galaxy S2 uses the Adreno 220 GPU as opposed to the Mali-GPU. Still an awesome phone regardless though.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the T-Mobile Galaxy S2 uses the Adreno 220 GPU as opposed to the Mali-GPU. Still an awesome phone regardless though.
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You are right. haha
The T-Mobile Galaxy SII and the Amaze 4G is pretty much the same exact phone...

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You are right. haha
The T-Mobile Galaxy SII and the Amaze 4G is pretty much the same exact phone...
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Good to know thanks...maybe I'll just stick it out with the G2x.

Just made this decision myself and I stuck with my g2x cause of this community and the overall feel of the phone. My only problem will be fixed when my extended battery gets here
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pettigrew95 said:
Good to know thanks...maybe I'll just stick it out with the G2x.
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Ya wait awhile til a worthy upgrade is available, IMHO either the HTC edge, galaxy s 3 or T-Mobile G3(hey they better make 1!)
1. 4-4.5 HD screen
2. 16-32gb internal storage
3. 8-12mp camera
4. 28nm krait,tegra3,or new exnyos soc
5.1-2gb ram
6.Great dev support on xda( this means waiting sometimes before you buy)
7.Can't be an LG phone lolololol ( I still love nvidia)
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
qHD isn't that much of a difference, especially because the G2x has a slightly smaller screen. And you mean to tell me that every single LG-based G2x ROM is bad? Take a look at Bionix, Weapon G2x, and Ultimate G2x... Those ROMs are amazing. CM7 and MIUI are virtually bug-less, and run amazingly well. This just my opinion though.
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Yeah I've tried all of the stock based ROM's. I'm actually one of the lucky few that have never had problems with my G2x. Only problem I've had with stock ROM's is that the browser would FC once in a while, but that's just because of LG. But I've read many that have plenty of problems with stock ROM's, and devs like Lotherius says it's just LG's fault. Can't be fixed. CM7 was a godsend and literally saved this phone IMO.
4.0" IPS is nice, but I like a 4.3" with higher res better.
Anyways, I'd recommend the G2x to anyone. But since the OP is asking between the 3, I'd definitely get the Sensation since I think that phone will last the longest. Development wise that is.
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Keep your g2x for now and wait till next year maybe earlier for the tmo 1st quad core phone .unless you can burn money, I can't and don't want to pay $100's .
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