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A guy I work with keeps arguing with me that you can't send text messages over wifi so setting my phone on wifi when at home to receive text messages and e-mails is pointless since it doesn't work.
Can someone please tell me if this is true or not?
The reason I use wifi is because my cell phone connection is crappy when at my house.
Your friend is correct.
RufusThorne said:
Your friend is correct.
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Text messages go through your carrier's network, not your wifi network
+2, your device does NOT do this through the data connection, so even though you might have mobile data turned off, or in this case, connected to wifi. It's using the Short message service center to communicate the data, this is over the voice network effectively, NOT DATA.
Also, this is the wrong forum for this OP.
Some T-Mo phones, like the G2x, can connect to the voice network through wifi, still uses minutes though.
Google voice will let send an SMS over a data connection.
There is an App available called TextPlus that allows you to send text messages over wifi. It does not use your cell # - it sets you up with a generic address
I use it on my tablet and works very well
It is available on the marketplace
Regards,
Get viber. Is easy and you can make phone calls and texts over wifi. Cheers!
When I receive a call, it rings for about half a second and I can't answer it. It goes to my GV voicemail. I can't answer the call.
I thought, man if GV is this buggy I'm going to just use the T-Mo voicemail service. So in Call Settings I switched back to my carrier. But still, when I call my phone, it rings for half a second, then goes to GV voicemail. WTF.
So I went to GV settings and found my forwarding phone in the Phones tab and I clicked on "Deactivate GV on my phone." It said I had to go to my phone and type ##004#. So I did that and nothing happened. Still same problems.
This is really annoying because a) I can't answer my calls, b) I don't get any missed call notifications.
Can anyone help me?
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When I receive a call, it rings for about half a second and I can't answer it. It goes to my GV voicemail. I can't answer the call.
I thought, man if GV is this buggy I'm going to just use the T-Mo voicemail service. So in Call Settings I switched back to my carrier. But still, when I call my phone, it rings for half a second, then goes to GV voicemail. WTF.
So I went to GV settings and found my forwarding phone in the Phones tab and I clicked on "Deactivate GV on my phone." It said I had to go to my phone and type ##004#. So I did that and nothing happened. Still same problems.
This is really annoying because a) I can't answer my calls, b) I don't get any missed call notifications.
Can anyone help me?
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I turned off call screening and I get my calls now. But my missed call notifications are coming from Google Voice. WTF.
Also I have my voicemail set back to My Carrier still and if I call myself I get GV Voicemail.
Shot in the dark..but do you have "Do not disturb" enabled in the Google Voice app or on the website? If so, disable it.
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uansari1 said:
Shot in the dark..but do you have "Do not disturb" enabled in the Google Voice app or on the website? If so, disable it.
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Nope. I turned off Call Screening and I finally started getting calls. BUT WHY CANT I DISABLE GOOGLE VOICE COMPLETELY!?!?!?
Have you tried logging in Google vice on computer and change settings to dis associate the number sign to that particular email account
Yeah, dude. It's in the OP.
So I went to GV settings and found my forwarding phone in the Phones tab and I clicked on "Deactivate GV on my phone." It said I had to go to my phone and type ##004#. So I did that and nothing happened. Still same problems.
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So let's say I have a GV number and a mobile number. And I turn on Call Screening. Why would it screen calls to my mobile number???
uansari1 said:
Shot in the dark..but do you have "Do not disturb" enabled in the Google Voice app or on the website? If so, disable it.
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Even if I had DND enabled.... Why would it block calls TO MY MOBILE NUMBER?
All I want GV to do with my mobile number is forward calls from my GV number.
Easy answer. Your sprint number takes over your google voice number.
Check out here how to fix that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075021&page=3
I posted the last post which is the easiest way to do it.
tnerb123 said:
Easy answer. Your sprint number takes over your google voice number.
Check out here how to fix that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075021&page=3
I posted the last post which is the easiest way to do it.
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Well that would make more sense if I wasn't on T-Mobile!
Have you tried to change your settings via the web. Going to your Google voice account and change your voicemail options. Although it sounds like you need to change your cm forwarding on your phone. Go to T-Mobiles site for instructions or call T-Mobile.
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Hi,
I'm using HTC Sensation, and can't seem to receive incoming calls when 2G data connection is active. Same goes for SMS messages. As soon as the "E" sign goes blank or if I disable mobile data, the calls start coming through.
I've tested this out with SIMs from other networks as well. Problem persists with them as well.
A little research shows DDTM (whatever that is) needs to be disabled. HTC Sensation has no such setting, the closes it comes to is "Enable always on mobile data" which is disabled on my phone - still having this problem.
After a little while of continuous mobile data use, the phone gets hot (as expected) and the battery starts to drain real fast.
Aren't incoming calls supposed to interrupt mobile data connection to host calls?
No, with edge you can't have data & calls at the same time. People should automatically go to voicemail if you have an active data connection (actually pulling down/sending data).
As far as I know, a call has never interrupted my data while on edge, back before 3G
xnifex said:
No, with edge you can't have data & calls at the same time. People should automatically go to voicemail if you have an active data connection (actually pulling down/sending data).
As far as I know, a call has never interrupted my data while on edge, back before 3G
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I don't think that's true. I had Hero before this one and data used to be on all the time, it always got interrupted in the event of an incoming call. Hell that's the default behavior on any cell phone from Nokia to Samsung. Even Galaxy S 2 does it!
Could it have to do anything with permissions?
Was wondering, is this an application-related thing? Specifically if an app doesn't have the "Read phone state and identity" permission, and uses mobile data, it won't interrupt itself when an incoming phone call comes in.
Just an idea.
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I don't think that's true. I had Hero before this one and data used to be on all the time, it always got interrupted in the event of an incoming call. Hell that's the default behavior on any cell phone from Nokia to Samsung. Even Galaxy S 2 does it!
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it may have been connected but not sending/receiving. If you're sending/receiving data (active connection) at the time that a call comes through, then it will get bounced to voicemail.
Hello all. I created this thread to get ideas and solutions to a big problem that I am having.
I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE. By reliable, I mean I will ALWAYS receive my call, and I don't have any difficulties MAKING my calls (like the registration dropping without notice). As I also need SMS across the same number that I am using, the only solution I have found is Google Voice, so that has to be integrated as well.
I think I have tried just about every solution out there to utilize SIP with GV. Either my settings suck on every app I've tried, the app drains power like no tomorrow, or the connection says it's there, but I don't receive my calls. There are only two methods I have found that work great with GV.
1) GrooveIP works great, but only when I first turn it on and sign in, and don't turn off the screen. Once the phone tries to sleep once, my reliability goes way down. In addition, GroovIP doesn't work so well when on the move. Says it is logged in, but doesn't actually work until logged out and back in again.
2) The GV app. This work perfectly, every time, and probably because by its nature it doesn't use SIP at all. The CAVEAT here is, it only intercepts an outgoing "mobile" call. If all you have is a data plan, it won't work.
I want (2) from above to work. I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo. What I need is a way to get Android to think my SIP connection IS my mobile connection, so that the GV app will intercept it and call my incoming SIP trunk so that I can make the call.
Any solutions to this that anyone knows of?
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You can use CSipSimple + PBXes.org as a 3rd option. Read this thread for some good information!
The reason for the poorer performance when the screen is off is because Android lowers the wifi power level when in sleep mode to prolong battery, which makes for worse SIP performance. This is also discussed in the thread I linked.
I would like to note here, I do not use WiFi. My setup is strictly high-speed 4G+LTE on AT&T. My ping times are typically very low and data is at least 3 Mbps. That should be plenty to get WiFi like quality, and the phone does not power down the cellular radio (at least, I've never heard of it).
Unfortunately, as far as I can make it work, CSIPsimple can not substitute as a "mobile' network, and therefore make use of the GVoice bridging.
Same situation here with GrooveIP. I am on Prism phone with T-Mobile (don't actually ever get 4G (even though both, the phone and the plan are advertized as 4G, and people right next to me do get 4G from T-mobile), but get stable 3G.
I also noticed it has something to do with Wi-Fi. I think GrooveIP actually prefers Wifi over data connection, because it would be happily green, until I walk into a wifi area and then it goes red and back to green. I didn't know that WiFi gets powered down during sleep. Since it does, then there is no reason keeping in on. Thank you for the tip!
I will have it strictly on data tomorrow (WiFi off), and see if GrooveIP ever disconnects.
Another weird thing about GrooveIP is that when you use it to call you t-mobile message box, the t-mobile system is not able to read your numerical commands, as if it was missing a random number. Say your pin is 1234, then it will "hear" 123, or 234, or 134 and so on.
But, as far as my own search, this is the only app that allows both incoming and outgoing calls and doesn't trigger minutes count as GV does.
OK, today, I changed some more options in GrooveIP, those having to do with GrooveIP staying on, including having my wifi off all day.
Results are negative, still goes red from time to time, but much less often.
Further options include activating the auto renew option (timed resign-on every hour or so).
I believe this should be possible to do.
bluespire said:
What I need is a way to get Android to think my SIP connection IS my mobile connection, so that the GV app will intercept it and call my incoming SIP trunk so that I can make the call.
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Not 100% sure what you meant by GV app intercepting SIP connection.
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Not 100% sure what you meant by GV app intercepting SIP connection.
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The GV app can intercept a call, and then alters the call log DB and some other things. It sends, via data, a request to GV to have GV bridge the call, thereby using the celluar network to make the call. As I understand, GV calls the number I want using my GV #, then GV calls my cell, bridging the call. Unfortunately, GV will ONLY intercept a call made using the "mobile" connection, and won't intercept my SIP (or "internet") calls.
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As I understand, GV calls the number I want using my GV #, then GV calls my cell, bridging the call.
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I understand bridging is how Google voice website works. Google will call you and then connect to the recipient. But I doubt that's how the android gv app works.
Even with GV app, the phone is initiating the call. All android gv app does is to spoof the caller id (CID) as gv number. So the recipient sees your GV number not the mobile number.
I'm still confused what you are trying to do. Because in the OP, you wrote
"I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE"
"I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo." These 2 are contradictory.
Are you trying to display your GV number as CID when making internet calls? If so, you have 3 options.
1. Ask whether Anveo (whoever your VSP) can spoof your CID. Some allow this.
2. Use pbxes and spoof CID as GV number.
3. Use pbxes with gtalk trunk.
Hope this helps.
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acegolfer said:
I understand bridging is how Google voice website works. Google will call you and then connect to the recipient. But I doubt that's how the android gv app works.
Even with GV app, the phone is initiating the call. All android gv app does is to spoof the caller id (CID) as gv number. So the recipient sees your GV number not the mobile number.
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I think you are correct in that my phone makes the call. However, when I look at my bill, I am calling a few specific numbers. Which means GV is still bridging the call. What the APP does is tell GV to expect my call, and then route me to my actual caller. The GV app then spoofs/alters my call log.
I'm still confused what you are trying to do. Because in the OP, you wrote
"I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE"
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I meant this is my goal.
"I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo." These 2 are contradictory.
Are you trying to display your GV number as CID when making internet calls? If so, you have 3 options.
1. Ask whether Anveo (whoever your VSP) can spoof your CID. Some allow this.
2. Use pbxes and spoof CID as GV number.
3. Use pbxes with gtalk trunk.
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For 1) I'll have to check into this.
For 2) Am I using pbxes for only this purpose? Or am I routing my call via them? So far, I have ONLY been able to get reliable SIP via Anveo. I've tried a number of carriers.
For 3) I tried this. I used SIP Sorcery to bridge IPKall with GVoice. Strangely, the only time I got it to work was in India. Since I got back to the states it hasn't worked, and nothing I do seems to get it to work right. I consider myself very capable at troubleshooting these problems. Therefore, I consider it unreliable. Also, GVoice only allows 1 codec, which from my reading is NOT the best for 4G use.
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For 2) Am I using pbxes for only this purpose? Or am I routing my call via them? So far, I have ONLY been able to get reliable SIP via Anveo. I've tried a number of carriers.
For 3) I tried this. I used SIP Sorcery to bridge IPKall with GVoice. Strangely, the only time I got it to work was in India. Since I got back to the states it hasn't worked, and nothing I do seems to get it to work right. I consider myself very capable at troubleshooting these problems. Therefore, I consider it unreliable. Also, GVoice only allows 1 codec, which from my reading is NOT the best for 4G use.
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2. Pbxes is not a VoIP provider. It's a system to manage your VoIP accounts. You can link your reliable anveo within pbxes and have pbxes initiate the call with your gv number showing as cid. You don't need to route the incoming calls.
3. I have used sipsorcery in the past, which is known for its flaky behavior. I agree its completely unreliable. But pbxes with gtalk trunk has been rock solid for me.
If you go to nexus 4 forum, I posted a method to make free VoIP calls using ilbc codec, which is the best codec for mobile data connection. My call quality is often better than tmobile's gsm calls.
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acegolfer said:
2. Pbxes is not a VoIP provider. It's a system to manage your VoIP accounts. You can link your reliable anveo within pbxes and have pbxes initiate the call with your gv number showing as cid. You don't need to route the incoming calls.
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I thought PBXes has a 1000 minute limit or something like that. Would I have all the same features as Sip Sorcery?
3. I have used sipsorcery in the past, which is known for its flaky behavior. I agree its completely unreliable. But pbxes with gtalk trunk has been rock solid for me.
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Good to know I am not the only one.
If you go to nexus 4 forum, I posted a method to make free VoIP calls using ilbc codec, which is the best codec for mobile data connection. My call quality is often better than tmobile's gsm calls.
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Could you post the link, please?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35701104
Not easy to do while on the phone.
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acegolfer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35701104
Not easy to do while on the phone.
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Now, when you say "reliable", what caveats are there to that? For instance, have you noticed problems with the phone picking up the call? Ever bad audio, or one-way audio, etc. See here's the thing, I can cope with many problems, but I have to pass the WAD (wife acceptance factor). On top of that, I WANT it to be reliable enough to set up her phone with it. Since both will be on a well-covered AT&T LTE network with low population, the network should not be an issue. I get 4G at my house, but it's good signal. I get up the hill and I'm golden.
bluespire said:
Now, when you say "reliable", what caveats are there to that? For instance, have you noticed problems with the phone picking up the call? Ever bad audio, or one-way audio, etc. See here's the thing, I can cope with many problems, but I have to pass the WAD (wife acceptance factor). On top of that, I WANT it to be reliable enough to set up her phone with it. Since both will be on a well-covered AT&T LTE network with low population, the network should not be an issue. I get 4G at my house, but it's good signal. I get up the hill and I'm golden.
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I passed WAF. Good luck!
Most of your issues are answered on that thread.
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Hey everyone,
I just picked up a new Z3 Unlocked with Dual sim mode and was having a very weird issue. I can make calls when the wifi is on, however, I do not receive incoming calls. It will ring twice and go to VM. Has anyone experienced this or know of way to fix it??
I've set the APN setting and everything works fine. I get LTE with AT&T and I have no issues except the issue with incoming calls on wifi.
Thanks guys.
Fredster 6.0 said:
Hey everyone,
I just picked up a new Z3 Unlocked with Dual sim mode and was having a very weird issue. I can make calls when the wifi is on, however, I do not receive incoming calls. It will ring twice and go to VM. Has anyone experienced this or know of way to fix it??
I've set the APN setting and everything works fine. I get LTE with AT&T and I have no issues except the issue with incoming calls on wifi.
Thanks guys.
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I don't think you actually have wifi calling, as far as I know only tmo has a Z3 capable of wifi calling and its enabled by them and not Sony. I'm not sure if AT&T has even rolled out wifi calling on any phones yet, they've only stated their iPhones would get it sometime in 2015. Not sure how to solve your issue, but it can't be wifi calling.
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I don't think you actually have wifi calling, as far as I know only tmo has a Z3 capable of wifi calling and its enabled by them and not Sony. I'm not sure if AT&T has even rolled out wifi calling on any phones yet, they've only stated their iPhones would get it sometime in 2015. Not sure how to solve your issue, but it can't be wifi calling.
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Thanks hanano17
Im not sure what it is exactly. It seems as if it wont switch between wifi and the network to receive calls. I cant turn on my wifi at home because ill miss calls.
Anyone have any other suggestions?
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Anyone have any other suggestions?
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The more detail you can provide about what you are attempting to do, what works and what does not, and the settings/state of your phone, the better.
Dumb question first: Are you sure you are on AT&T, not T-Mobile?
Also, is your Z3 T-Mobile branded by any chance? (You might then want to flash debranded Sony firmware... see the Android Development forum).
Do you have cellular coverage in your area? If you turn WiFi off (and be sure Airplane mode is off also!), are you able to send/receive any calls at all? Can you call voicemail? (Note that calling and receiving call is not dependent on data settings, such as APN).
Do you have another SIM nearby that you can try? (e.g. your SO's...)
Are you sure you have not configured your phone for SIP (VoIP)? Go to Settings -> Call Settings -> Internet Call Settings -> Use Internet calling -- make sure that it says Only to SIP address. (Internet calling is great -- I forward calls to my VOIPo number when unavailable/unanswered, where I can also "spoof" my outgoing number to match my cell phone number, receive my voice mails as email attachments, make calls from my computer, etc... but that's probably a couple of steps ahead).
Hlorri said:
The more detail you can provide about what you are attempting to do, what works and what does not, and the settings/state of your phone, the better.
Dumb question first: Are you sure you are on AT&T, not T-Mobile?
Also, is your Z3 T-Mobile branded by any chance? (You might then want to flash debranded Sony firmware... see the Android Development forum).
Do you have cellular coverage in your area? If you turn WiFi off (and be sure Airplane mode is off also!), are you able to send/receive any calls at all? Can you call voicemail? (Note that calling and receiving call is not dependent on data settings, such as APN).
Do you have another SIM nearby that you can try? (e.g. your SO's...)
Are you sure you have not configured your phone for SIP (VoIP)? Go to Settings -> Call Settings -> Internet Call Settings -> Use Internet calling -- make sure that it says Only to SIP address. (Internet calling is great -- I forward calls to my VOIPo number when unavailable/unanswered, where I can also "spoof" my outgoing number to match my cell phone number, receive my voice mails as email attachments, make calls from my computer, etc... but that's probably a couple of steps ahead).
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whats your VOIP service If you dont mind me asking?
daraj said:
whats your VOIP service If you dont mind me asking?
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VOIPo.
I also use PhonePower for my "landline". We have a couple of SIP phones at home, and when going on vacations etc. we simply pick up our "home" calls on our cell phones (using the built-in SIP clients in Android and (gasp) Symbian).
PhonePower is better for international calls (VOIPo has a couple of restrictions, and also does not correctly interpret the "+" prefix in telephone numbers, the way I store them in my phonebook), whereas VOIPo is better as a "transparent" replacement for your cell phone number (if your cell phone is out of coverage, or in airplane mode), in that it can "spoof" the outgoing caller ID to match your cell phone number. (You'll have to verify it first of course).