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I've seen many different rooting methods for the nexus s but unfortunately they don't allow rooting without unlocking the bootloader like the samsung vibrant allows is there anyway I can root my phone without unlocking the bootloader?
why I don't want to unloack the boot loader because I'm fine with the stock ROM on my nexus s. I was really into installing ROMs and things with my Vibrant but the Nexus S feels really complete so I feel like I don't need to unlock my boot loader
Also for the first time I have decent signal in my house after switiching from my blackberry to android so I don't wanna change my baseband and my battery life is good too so I don't want to mess with the kernel
Really? You posted in the same incorrect forum twice with the same question cut and pasted. Nice work!
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You know you can re-lock the bootloader with a fastboot command, right? And the little open lock goes away.
i'm sorry i accidentally reposted i pmed the moderator right away because i didn't know how to delete the post and this is the right section its a question...
i just have one question i can relock right but if i do unlock the bootloader will it change my kernel or baseband settings? i really couldn't care about the warranty and such
it's like opening the door....if you do nothing inside, nothing will happen
yes i get that but i can't flash back to the original recovery as of now and so no changes to the kernel and baseband alright thanks!!
also is there some sort of a "ODIN" availabale for nexus s because thats what I used to always flash my samsung vibrant back to stock. will OTA updates be affected if I root and unlock the bootloader?
anishs said:
also is there some sort of a "ODIN" availabale for nexus s because thats what I used to always flash my samsung vibrant back to stock. will OTA updates be affected if I root and unlock the bootloader?
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Yes you can use Odin with Nexus S, but consider it the last resort because normally you can do everything via adb and fastboot -- that's the advantage of having a Google phone.
For OTA updates, I'm pretty sure it will not work because OTA update requires stock recovery but rooting requires you to flash a custom recovery.
suksit said:
Yes you can use Odin with Nexus S, but consider it the last resort because normally you can do everything via adb and fastboot -- that's the advantage of having a Google phone.
For OTA updates, I'm pretty sure it will not work because OTA update requires stock recovery but rooting requires you to flash a custom recovery.
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thanks for that reply it explained everything can you just tell me if flashing a custom recovery change my baseband or kernel that's all i need to know now
@anishs no
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thanks to everyone for helping a noob with a nexus s
Hello everyone
I am a galaxy note2 owner. Read great reviews on this so I chose this instead of Note 10.1.
Anything I should know before I root it?
Is it just like rooting my Note? Just use odin and a costume firmware?
toofank said:
Hello everyone
I am a galaxy note2 owner. Read great reviews on this so I chose this instead of Note 10.1.
Anything I should know before I root it?
Is it just like rooting my Note? Just use odin and a costume firmware?
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You only can root while you on ICS version .30 or below. Once upgraded to JB there's a different procedure to obtain root. Here is the guide. If you have any question, just ask here. BTW tf700 is not same as galaxy note 2. NO ODIN for tf700.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
buhohitr said:
You only can root while you on ICS version .30 or below. Once upgraded to JB there's a different procedure to obtain root. Here is the guide. If you have any question, just ask here. BTW tf700 is not same as galaxy note 2. NO ODIN for tf700.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
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Thanks. My asus is still on ics. Im gonna root it then upgrade to jellybean cuz ics is laggy! So to be sure here,I use the link to root then i can install cwm,then flash a costume rom like cleanrom straight from rooted ics, even if the costumerom is jellybean?
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Thanks. My asus is still on ics. Im gonna root it then upgrade to jellybean cuz ics is laggy! So to be sure here,I use the link to root then i can install cwm,then flash a costume rom like cleanrom straight from rooted ics, even if the costumerom is jellybean?
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After rooted on ICS, you need to download OTA rootkeeper from the market to preserve root (keep a copy of root), then use dlpkg method (incremental upgrade) to JB. If you use Asus full JB firmware, it's going to wipe out your root. Once you on JB, use OTA root keeper to restore root, then you need to unlock your device before you can install custom recovery (TWRP/CWM). From here on you can flash any custom rom that you like. I highly recommend TWRP, it works well with tf700. Some people do have issue with CWM.
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After rooted on ICS, you need to download OTA rootkeeper from the market to preserve root (keep a copy of root), then use dlpkg method (incremental upgrade) to JB. If you use Asus full JB firmware, it's going to wipe out your root. Once you on JB, use OTA root keeper to restore root, then you need to unlock your device before you can install custom recovery (TWRP/CWM). From here on you can flash any custom rom that you like. I highly recommend TWRP, it works well with tf700. Some people do have issue with CWM.
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Ok thank you very much for the info.
toofank said:
Thanks. My asus is still on ics. Im gonna root it then upgrade to jellybean cuz ics is laggy! So to be sure here,I use the link to root then i can install cwm,then flash a costume rom like cleanrom straight from rooted ics, even if the costumerom is jellybean?
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To install a custom recovery you need to unlock your device, which will void your warranty. If,after unlocking, you want to have a way to recover from any software-induced brick situations, then BEFORE YOU UPGRADE, read the nvflash thread and get the required files from your device. You cannot do this once you upgraded!
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To install a custom recovery you need to unlock your device, which will void your warranty. If,after unlocking, you want to have a way to recover from any software-induced brick situations, then BEFORE YOU UPGRADE, read the nvflash thread and get the required files from your device. You cannot do this once you upgraded!
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thanks. ill do that.
Welcome to our little company. I have the same Combination as you have. You will soon notice that this is hard to get as fluid as the note 2.
Also rooting not that easy. I am still with stock with this one.
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CandyAndy said:
Welcome to our little company. I have the same Combination as you have. You will soon notice that this is hard to get as fluid as the note 2.
Also rooting not that easy. I am still with stock with this one.
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You have to take a shot at rooting and unlocking, without them, I won't able to use my tf700, my kids actually refused to use it. After Cleanrom, they love it!
Needed to update superuser to get root.
But now it wont unlock!
Wjhen i click the unlock device it gives me some network error!
It seems that asus server wont let me unlock.
I keep getting the message in screenshot.
Ive manually downloaded the stock jb zipfile from asus site. How can I flash it to my device? Idont have cwmrecovery.
toofank said:
It seems that asus server wont let me unlock.
I keep getting the message in screenshot.
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I can take a few days or weeks for new devices to become unlockable - apparently Asus' unlocking server is always behind. Usually it helps to be patient and try again after a few days.
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Ive manually downloaded the stock jb zipfile from asus site. How can I flash it to my device? Idont have cwmrecovery.
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You can do that by unpacking the UpdateLauncher zip once (another zip is inside) and putting it onto a microSD card, then boot the tablet in recovery mode (hold down Volume-down while powering on). Some guides say that you must rename the zip to something specific, I don't know if that is still true. Beware: if you upgrade, you will lose the ability to ever use nvflash because the new bootloader is more locked down and can't be downgraded. Also you will lose root by flashing a complete firmware.
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I can take a few days or weeks for new devices to become unlockable - apparently Asus' unlocking server is always behind. Usually it helps to be patient and try again after a few days.
You can do that by unpacking the UpdateLauncher zip once (another zip is inside) and putting it onto a microSD card, then boot the tablet in recovery mode (hold down Volume-down while powering on). Some guides say that you must rename the zip to something specific, I don't know if that is still true. Beware: if you upgrade, you will lose the ability to ever use nvflash because the new bootloader is more locked down and can't be downgraded. Also you will lose root by flashing a complete firmware.
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Thanks. Ill just wait for the asus server to work then. I hope it doest take longer then a month
Came from the Prime to the Infinity and was hoping this device was smoother/faster and it seems to be even worse. Should I give up on Asus giving us good software? It's just frustrating having an S3 being so fast and smooth being a high end device and also having 4.1.1. Why the hell can't Asus get it right too?
Should I just unlock and get a custom rom on this? Is that the only way to get this tablet to be fast and smooth?
Sorry to butt in someones thread, but...Got my Infinity today at 11 AM.... Updated to JB, rooted, installed Titanium and all goodies.
Do not feel that it's any slower than Google Nexus 10.1 in no way. Ever screen, it's a less resolution per spec does not look any different.
Happy with it, great tab.
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wifesabitch said:
Came from the Prime to the Infinity and was hoping this device was smoother/faster and it seems to be even worse. Should I give up on Asus giving us good software? It's just frustrating having an S3 being so fast and smooth being a high end device and also having 4.1.1. Why the hell can't Asus get it right too?
Should I just unlock and get a custom rom on this? Is that the only way to get this tablet to be fast and smooth?
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Yes, if you want your device to be fast and smooth you definitly need to unlock and install Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel. Without them I probably throw mine in the trash.
buhohitr said:
Yes, if you want your device to be fast and smooth you definitly need to unlock and install Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel. Without them I probably throw mine in the trash.
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its really stupid that you loose your warranty if u wanna unlovck and install cleanrom.
not that the unlock works anyways! ..
Im not happy with it at all!
toofank said:
its really stupid that you loose your warranty if u wanna unlovck and install cleanrom.
not that the unlock works anyways! ..
Im not happy with it at all!
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Don't we all? but we just have to move on...otherwise we still sitting in the dark!
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Don't we all? but we just have to move on...otherwise we still sitting in the dark!
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I encountered a similar issue with another tab. I moved on from there to the TF700 only to relive the same experience. Next time I will do my research before buying another tab. I paid for the tab and I want to have complete control to 'abuse' it!
So, my phone is running 4.1.2 rooted, and it got an OTA recently. The OTA failed because the bootloader was unlocked.
I thought easy-peasy, just odin flash the locked boot loader and download/apply OTA again, right?
Flashed fine, locked and clean for initial boot. But when it went to install the OTA, same problem happened, the bootloader was miraculously unlocked again, and the OTA failed.
Any ideas on how I can get past this? I really don't mind loosing root, just trying to avoid a complete odin reflash and loosing everything...
I am just curious ... why would you want to update to the OTA 4.3 and forever lock down the bootloader? Once the verizon 4.3 update takes hold, you might be able to root, but (so far) will not be able to load custom roms without bricking the device.
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I am just curious ... why would you want to update to the OTA 4.3 and forever lock down the bootloader? Once the verizon 4.3 update takes hold, you might be able to root, but (so far) will not be able to load custom roms without bricking the device.
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Well your almost right. First off you for sure can root. Second you can install custom roms with safestrap. Its limited to tw roms atm. There have been a hand full of people who upgraded just to use safestrap. I wouldnt recomend it right now because its alittle buggy.
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So, my phone is running 4.1.2 rooted, and it got an OTA recently. The OTA failed because the bootloader was unlocked.
I thought easy-peasy, just odin flash the locked boot loader and download/apply OTA again, right?
Flashed fine, locked and clean for initial boot. But when it went to install the OTA, same problem happened, the bootloader was miraculously unlocked again, and the OTA failed.
Any ideas on how I can get past this? I really don't mind loosing root, just trying to avoid a complete odin reflash and loosing everything...
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Wife's phone. She doesn't want to mess with it.
I think I figured it out, looks like I had a custom recovery installed. Flashed that to stock and locked bootloader and all is fine now. Running latest and greatest. Just what the missus is looking for...
RedBullet - Ah, I fully understand now I'm having a similar conversation with my misses.
ThePagel - Thanks. One one of my phones was cursed with an accidental OTA 4.3 upgrade. Nice to know something is in the works, I'll dig up that thread and watch it.
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RedBullet - Ah, I fully understand now I'm having a similar conversation with my misses.
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I assume if one wants to go the custom ROM route they would simply need to odin flash one of the older stock images and go from there. Doesn't seem like a big problem. Of course > 50% chance I have no idea what I'm talking about...
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I assume if one wants to go the custom ROM route they would simply need to odin flash one of the older stock images and go from there. Doesn't seem like a big problem. Of course > 50% chance I have no idea what I'm talking about...
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If you take the 4.3 OTA, you cannot odin flash an older stock image. Will brick your device.
landshark68 said:
If you take the 4.3 OTA, you cannot odin flash an older stock image. Will brick your device.
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Really? That is pretty tragic. I may only buy unlocked devices from here on out; they seem to be getting better and better at making their devices less and less useful...
It sure is sad but true. Im thankful google blessed us with the nexus 5
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Really? That is pretty tragic. I may only buy unlocked devices from here on out; they seem to be getting better and better at making their devices less and less useful...
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wanted to know if their will ever be a stock kitkat rom for the ones that have an unlocked boot loader that can be flashed in odin or something
need kitkat but don't want to lose my unlocked boot loader
Dude, the ROM released yesterday but apparently only in a limited fashion because only some people have been able to pull it. When the files we available and people have had some time to work on them we will likely see a release. That is unless Verizon has done something particularly nasty.
So have patience. We all want kit Kat but we all have to wait until someone figures it out.
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morbidking said:
wanted to know if their will ever be a stock kitkat rom for the ones that have an unlocked boot loader that can be flashed in odin or something
need kitkat but don't want to lose my unlocked boot loader
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It's very likely and would be flashed in TWRP or CWM.
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It's very likely and would be flashed in TWRP or CWM.
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thanks for the quick reply just didnt want to take the update and lose unlocked boot now that i know it can be done with out loosing unlocked boot i will wait
need my google wallet working again
morbidking said:
thanks for the quick reply just didnt want to take the update and lose unlocked boot now that i know it can be done with out loosing unlocked boot i will wait
need my google wallet working again
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Everyone just has to be patient as new OTAs always introduce their own set of problems that the devs must deal with. It may be a few weeks before anything is released or it may be a few days.
So I have always rooted my phones in the past.
I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S2 because well, it needed KitKat and Samsung is lame...
Now I am faced with the decision to root or not to root. My N5 is awesome it has Full support and is the raw experience I want, rooting would let me have a little more fun in the way of mods and tweaks, but all the problems everyone seems to be having is kinda putting me off so I guess I just need help.
Also there is a difference between unlocking boot loader and rooting, does the unlocking void warranty?
All guides and info threads are linked in my signature and will answer almost all your questions
I'm not sure of all these "problems" you're referring to. Basically, idiots have the most problems. Normal people don't really have any
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Basically, idiots have the most problems. Normal people don't really have any
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this. i have been rooted since day one and have ZERO problems.
I think this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54746284&postcount=8
Applies here too, what do you think, @rootSU?
Right. Root doesn't modify files that can cause an issue assuming you're doing it right. I'd highly recommend NOT using a toolkit and rooting yourself and unlocking the bootloader yourself, it assures nothing goes wrong and you get some experience.
rootSU's guide are a treasure trove of information, take a looksie.
unlocking the bootloader lets you flash a custom recovery to flash things, it has nothing to do with root. you can flash any roms or kernels you want, without root. all root does is give you permission to change system files. and you would flash the root zip in your new recovery once you unlock the bootloader.
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unlocking the bootloader lets you flash a custom recovery to flash things, it has nothing to do with root. you can flash any roms or kernels you want, without root. all root does is give you permission to change system files. and you would flash the root zip in your new recovery once you unlock the bootloader.
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So would unlocking the boot loader void the warranty?
Spectrys said:
So would unlocking the boot loader void the warranty?
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depending on who you bought it from, yes and no. but anyways, you can lock the bootloader after as well, easily. generally, google will still except warrenty if the bootloader is unlocked for any hardware issue. other companies will void the warrenty, including LG. but again, it can be relocked
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depending on who you bought it from, yes and no. but anyways, you can lock the bootloader after as well, easily. generally, google will still except warrenty if the bootloader is unlocked for any hardware issue. other companies will void the warrenty, including LG. but again, it can be relocked
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So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.
Spectrys said:
So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.
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yup. anything that needs to be flashed will go through your custom recovery, which needs an unlocked boitloader to get flashed onto your device. then youll use that recovery to flash things, and make backups.
Spectrys said:
So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.
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Unlocking the bootloader is a requirement in order to use a custom recovery. And most mods are installed by flashable zips in recovery. So yes kind of required.
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Awesome! You guys are great I am going to unlock later today or tomorrow.
Now next question the ota updates will I be able to install those if I keep stock with an unlocked boot loader?
Spectrys said:
Awesome! You guys are great I am going to unlock later today or tomorrow.
Now next question the ota updates will I be able to install those if I keep stock with an unlocked boot loader?
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If you click the link in my signature, theres a thread about ota. All guides and info is there. Every question you've asked today is answered there
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Pretty sure you told me that earlier, thanks.
Looking at it now.
Spectrys said:
Pretty sure you told me that earlier, thanks.
Looking at it now.
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Yepp. Loads of good stuff there
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sure
root is best thing to do . just root and install custom kernel
MohamedHusseinMohamed said:
root is best thing to do . just root and install custom kernel
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you do not need root to install custom kernels
all you need root for is to change system files. well, that's all root does, is give you permission.
Spectrys said:
So I have always rooted my phones in the past.
I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S2 because well, it needed KitKat and Samsung is lame...
Now I am faced with the decision to root or not to root. My N5 is awesome it has Full support and is the raw experience I want, rooting would let me have a little more fun in the way of mods and tweaks, but all the problems everyone seems to be having is kinda putting me off so I guess I just need help.
Also there is a difference between unlocking boot loader and rooting, does the unlocking void warranty?
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You have to unlock the boot loader in order to root. Personally at this time I would not root because of android L around the corner. With rooting, you can longer receive ota's. Yes it fun to tweak but if I were in your position I wouldn't....
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With rooting, you can longer receive ota's.
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Not true. You can receive OTA's if rooted (read the OTA help-desk thread) However, what's the big deal about OTA's?
1) You can get a rooted rom flashed based on the latest build BEFORE you get the OTA
2) Much less to go wrong that way than with OTA.
I think too many people put too much importance in OTA updates. Its a poor method of delivery and not even quick
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Not true. You can receive OTA's if rooted (read the OTA help-desk thread) However, what's the big deal about OTA's?
1) You can get a rooted rom flashed based on the latest build BEFORE you get the OTA
2) Much less to go wrong that way than with OTA.
I think too many people put too much importance in OTA updates. Its a poor method of delivery and not even quick
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Personally, I think that if you don't know how to update manually and are completely reliant on OTAs, then you shouldn't have root access in the first place because you don't know what you're doing.