Which charger is better? - G2 and Desire Z Accessories

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Well I have this two charger,idk which one is better for my battery,since I have 3 battery I take turn to charge them with the left charger the one that u can buy in ebay,ok back to the real question,when I charge my phone with the right charger (original) it take 2 hour to fully charge stock battery but not the china battery
,it take 5 hour to fully charge this China battery with original charger,if i use the ebay charger (wall charger) it charge all types of battery within 5 hour? Why is it so? Any idea?
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Recently bought another new battery ,seems the China battery have worn out a lot..(30min use it died off) Yoobao,was a reliable brand,i bought the 1500mah..and guess wat? It last three times longer than my stock battery
I use mainly for web browsing,facebook,music and more..
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Probably the China charger identifies itself as an USB port, so that it can charge any type of battery with a lower amount of current. Shouldn't damage the battery if you charge it with the HTC one though.

bogdan5844 said:
Probably the China charger identifies itself as an USB port, so that it can charge any type of battery with a lower amount of current. Shouldn't damage the battery if you charge it with the HTC one though.
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But about the amount of charge that store in the battery by using the China charger,will it like lack charge of a few hundred mah of the battery since its not genuine charger? I talking abt the battery charger that u put ur battery on that port and charge not the USB
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The China charger will take to long to charge any battery above 1200mha . Since most of thoes chargers only charge at a crappy 500ma-700ma to get a good charge you need minimum of 800ma and 1000ma=1amp to get a good charge and still be able to use the phone while charging to reduce charger heat up. As for the wall battery only charger mimicking "USB" I'd does no such thing it just gives straight voltage to the battery and meters it till it reaches Max voltage and to avoid over charging the input amperage to the battery is like 200-500ma .. hopefully this helps you guys out on choosing a charger. Fyi all HTC official USB wall chargers are rated at 1amp
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arsonist63086 said:
The China charger will take to long to charge any battery above 1200mha . Since most of thoes chargers only charge at a crappy 500ma-700ma to get a good charge you need minimum of 800ma and 1000ma=1amp to get a good charge and still be able to use the phone while charging to reduce charger heat up. As for the wall battery only charger mimicking "USB" I'd does no such thing it just gives straight voltage to the battery and meters it till it reaches Max voltage and to avoid over charging the input amperage to the battery is like 200-500ma .. hopefully this helps you guys out on choosing a charger. Fyi all HTC official USB wall chargers are rated at 1amp
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So u are saying the official battery charger from HTC are better since its current is 1amp?
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„Better” in this case means that it will charge faster. Think of it this way - you want to fill a glass with water. If you pour it from a bottle with a large opening, it will fill faster. If you pour it from a bottle with a smaller opening, it will fill slower.
Which bottle is better/worse? Depends on how fast you want to charge your battery.

bogdan5844 said:
„Better” in this case means that it will charge faster. Think of it this way - you want to fill a glass with water. If you pour it from a bottle with a large opening, it will fill faster. If you pour it from a bottle with a smaller opening, it will fill slower.
Which bottle is better/worse? Depends on how fast you want to charge your battery.
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Since I got 4 battery(don't ask me y,2 of them were China battery it die off pretty fast,1 stock and yoobao)..I have no choice but to use the China charger,but China charger are much slower..but will it fill up the full capacity of the battery?
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I've been using a Crackberry charger for over two years.

I see no reason why it should not. It's not like it suddenly stops at a certain percentage or something. Just be sure to not let it too much in case the charger doesn't have overcharging protection (a.k.a. it knows when the battery is full so it doesn't overcharge it)

bogdan5844 said:
I see no reason why it should not. It's not like it suddenly stops at a certain percentage or something. Just be sure to not let it too much in case the charger doesn't have overcharging protection (a.k.a. it knows when the battery is full so it doesn't overcharge it)
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But the charger will turn blue from pink when its full,is it safe to use?
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Steven How said:
But the charger will turn blue from pink when its full,is it safe to use?
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If the charger has an indicator letting you know its full then most times it has a auto off function and wont overcharge the battery so its will be safe to use thoes chargers
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arsonist63086 said:
If the charger has an indicator letting you know its full then most times it has a auto off function and wont overcharge the battery so its will be safe to use thoes chargers
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Okay,thx
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Recently I came across a few USB charger in my room,the China one (which I talk abt it earlier)have output of DC 5.2v 800ma,while stock HTC charger is output 5v 1a,and the galaxy tab charger has output of 5v 2a..which one would charge the battery faster? if I use the galaxy tab charger will it damage my battery?
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Interestingly, I used a cheap Samsung charger a few times (from an Galaxy Ace I think), and it seems to load much faster than the original charger...

Depends on amp and volts. Should say on charger
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samsung = 5.0 x 0.7amps

More current = faster charge, the percentage of completely full will depend on what current the charger stops.

Is it ok to charge my phone with a 5.3v with 0.75 a...instead of using the stock charger which was at 5v 1a? Will it damage the battery??
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lithium ion batteries are very tricky. First we use lithium not because is good, because it can takes any form you want and it's cheap.
Lithium can't take deep discharge and can't takes overcharge, in most case it will catch on fire or explode. That's why in battery packs you need to '' balance'' them one by one to make sure that the first cell get full, will stop charging.
Those batteries are heat sensible, they dont like high temperature or low temperature. If you choose to store them, better to put them in the fridge than the freezer @ 40% charge
Of curse sellers'll say that they dont have memory effect, but it more or less true, it depends how you use them.
They loose their capacity with number of charges AND time. Yes, you can have a brand new lithium cell totaly dead because its too old. Due to internal cell oxidation. This permanent degradation in capacity is about 20% per year. Degradation is, however, highly dependent on the temperature at which the battery is stored.
Permanent Capacity Loss versus Storage Conditions Storage Temperature 40% Charge --------- 100% Charge
32°F (0°C) 2% loss after 1 year -------- 6% loss after 1 year
77°F (25°C) 4% loss after 1 year --------20% loss after 1 year
104°F (40°C) 15% loss after 1 year --------35% loss after 1 year
140°F (60°C) 25% loss after 1 year --------40% loss after 3 months
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So yes, if you charge it TOO fast, it will affect the performance.
Slower is the better. I use my pc (500 mah) or a motorola charger 700 mah.
For charger with high amp, some cell phone batteries has a built in limiter, so it wont make much difference from a certain mah.
Lithium is good, but far from the best.
You can have all kind of info there : http://prowiki.isc.upenn.edu/wiki/Lithium_ion_batteries

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my battery life solution

Well my battery life is pretty good, I have the 2750mah and I'm running lightning rom 1.5 with the stock kernel and I get a solid 2 days, but just in case I ever decide to go back to the stock battery I made this nifty little thing. It's an altoids case with a portable charger and adapters inside, and the parts list is as follows:
1x 1N4742A 12V Zener Diode $1.59
Model: 1N4742 | Catalog #: 276-563
1x 6V 50mAh Solar Cell Encap $14.99
Model: 277-1205 | Catalog #: 277-1205
Both of which are available at radioshack, I also had to cut up an old mini-usb cable for the input.
Let me know what you guys think!
Lol that is awesome. How long for a full charge?
I haven't tested how long the solar panel will take to charge the battery in the case, but the battery is only 1000mah, so I get another 30% in about an hour, hour and a half ish
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quite clever indeed what would happen if you used a couple solar panels in parallel?
I was thinking about it, at 14.99 a piece I just might. They produce 50ma each, so a second in parallel would be 100ma and charge twice as fast.
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Wow that's badass. You should consider marketing it
I've often wondered why no one has made a phone case with photoelectric cells that continuously charge your phone.
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there are not alot of times when i am not near electricity but i agree for those times when i am this is a sweet idea... camping over the weekend comes to mind.
i wish i had the money/time/resources to bring this to market, it is perfect for camping lol, my fiancee and i spend a week in the catskills every summer and im definitely bringing this along this year
Very nice . there is a solar charger in the market but who know how much time the charge.
I went a slightly different route. My Altoids charger will charge any USB device from a readily available 9v battery and one battery will get you several charges.
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It has a standard USB port on the end and the red LED indicates when the charger is turned on. A simple switch on the side turns it on and off and it's regulated to 5v like any USB port.
And then my wife completely forgot that I built it and bought me one of these for x-mas.
It's called a Powerstick and has a small lithium battery inside that charges from any USB port, and comes with a bunch of small adapters to fit many different USB devices. The Powerstick cost about $25 + shipping, but the Altoids charger cost me about $15 to build, including having to replace the voltage regulator once after accidentally smoking the first one during assembly. The Powerstick is slimmer, but the Altoids charger wins for geek factor. Also, the powerstick needs charged off USB, whereas I can walk into almost any gas station or Wal-Mart and buy a 9v battery. So the Altoids charger wins on long trips.
Dude make me one n I'll buy it from u
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Dangerous Dave said:
I went a slightly different route. My Altoids charger will charge any USB device from a readily available 9v battery and one battery will get you several charges.
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I want this so bad. I'm gonna have to figure out how to put one of these together for myself.
Dangerous Dave said:
I went a slightly different route. My Altoids charger will charge any USB device from a readily available 9v battery and one battery will get you several charges.
It has a standard USB port on the end and the red LED indicates when the charger is turned on. A simple switch on the side turns it on and off and it's regulated to 5v like any USB port.
And then my wife completely forgot that I built it and bought me one of these for x-mas.
It's called a Powerstick and has a small lithium battery inside that charges from any USB port, and comes with a bunch of small adapters to fit many different USB devices. The Powerstick cost about $25 + shipping, but the Altoids charger cost me about $15 to build, including having to replace the voltage regulator once after accidentally smoking the first one during assembly. The Powerstick is slimmer, but the Altoids charger wins for geek factor. Also, the powerstick needs charged off USB, whereas I can walk into almost any gas station or Wal-Mart and buy a 9v battery. So the Altoids charger wins on long trips.
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thats sick, i like how the battery is replaceable, you could even use a rechargeable 9v and a solar panel to recharge it XD
mine has a standard usb as well, i just didnt show the proper angle lol, its in the pic below. the portable charger inside mine is an energizer xpal1000
I am FAR too stupid for this crazy ass thing. lol
Dude you need to make a Youtube video on how to make this! You can even charge your phone while is in your pocket!!! (i don't know how safe that is but sounds super awesome!)
chepo84126 said:
Dude you need to make a Youtube video on how to make this! You can even charge your phone while is in your pocket!!! (i don't know how safe that is but sounds super awesome!)
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i just took a little ingenuity and the info from this instructables post, nbd
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-Solar-USB-charger-simple/
krickatthedisco said:
I was thinking about it, at 14.99 a piece I just might. They produce 50ma each, so a second in parallel would be 100ma and charge twice as fast.
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It really depends on how much sunlight you have. Volts X watts determines the time it takes to charge. I am building mine tonight, and my calculations indicate about 8 hours for a full charge in bright sunlight.
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Callpod Fueltank DUO Li-ion Portable Battery Pack.

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Got one of these to try out.
Callpod Fueltank DUO Li-ion Portable Battery Pack
I be using this to charge 2 phones tomorrow see how good it works!!!
Anyone else tried these or any products from this company???
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•LED Multi-color batter meter LEDs
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•Lead-free components (RoHS compliant)
Power Specifications: Input: AC 100-240V 50/60 Hz Output: 5.4V / 6.4V @ 500 mA
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Looked really good right up until I saw the output.
I would have tried one out if the output was 1000ma/1amp
PhantomRampage said:
Looked really good right up until I saw the output.
I would have tried one out if the output was 1000ma/1amp
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What's wrong with that???
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What's wrong with that???
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Means it'll charge pretty slow and if you use the phone while charging it may not charge at all because the phone will be using juice faster than the battery pack can carge it.
I have a 5000mah pack that charges at 1 amp and if i turn my screen brightness higher than half and use the phone it will only maintain the current charge and wont increase at all. Push the brightness to max and it actually drains... drains slowly but still drains. at only 500mA the same thing would happen but worse.
I used this to charge one of the METRO cheap ANDROID phone from a co-worker and in 20 minutes is was almost at 50%.
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I honestly don't know what else to say to you. RegP explained what I meant perfectly.
If you think it charges fast, then I'm happy you're enjoying your charger. That's that I guess
I may have been a little tired yesterday and ordered myself one of these: h t t p://www.dealextreme.com/p/rechargeable-5v-13000mah-mobile-emergency-battery-power-pack-with-7-adapters-black-110679 (remove spaces from http).
- Color: Black
- Material: ABS + PCS
- Battery capacity: 13000mAh
- Input voltage: DC5V/0.7A
- Output 1: USB 5V/0.7A
- Output 2: USB 5V/2A
- Package includes:
- 1 x USB cable (48cm)
- 1 x 100-240V power adapter (2-flat-pin)
- 1 x USB retractable cable (74cm after pulling out to the max.)
- 7 x Adapters (iPhone/iPad + SonyEricsson + Samsung + Nokia + Micro USB + Mini USB + PSP)
I don't actually need it, I just have a thing with batteries lol.
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Means it'll charge pretty slow and if you use the phone while charging it may not charge at all because the phone will be using juice faster than the battery pack can carge it.
I have a 5000mah pack that charges at 1 amp and if i turn my screen brightness higher than half and use the phone it will only maintain the current charge and wont increase at all. Push the brightness to max and it actually drains... drains slowly but still drains. at only 500mA the same thing would happen but worse.
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Then, sometimes isn't it kinda bad on your phone if it charges too fast, like the phone can't handle all the volts or whatever?
NekoNyapii said:
Then, sometimes isn't it kinda bad on your phone if it charges too fast, like the phone can't handle all the volts or whatever?
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no.. the battery I use charges at 5v 1000mah. that's the same output as the ac adapted that came with your phone.
NekoNyapii said:
Then, sometimes isn't it kinda bad on your phone if it charges too fast, like the phone can't handle all the volts or whatever?
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The voltage is a pretty universal 5V. The difference is the amperage.
Imagine a hose, voltage is the pressure and amps are the amount of water (energy, really). So same pressure just less water (smaller hose width for example).
redmonke255 said:
The voltage is a pretty universal 5V. The difference is the amperage.
Imagine a hose, voltage is the pressure and amps are the amount of water (energy, really). So same pressure just less water (smaller hose width for example).
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Correct.
The phone's charge circuit has an algorithm which monitors and manages battery charging and discharging. According to the maintenance manual (which I've posted a link to in the G2X forum), the charge circuit can handle well over 5V input.
An external battery pack can be constructed with rechargeable AA or AAA cell NICAD or NIMH batteries (not Li-ion or LiPo), a multi-cell battery holder box with an on-off switch and which enables the batteries to be taken out for recharging and a cable with a USB connector for the phone. A battery pack should use 5 or 6 batteries. I recommend Sanyo Eneloop batteries which have very good characteristics for that purpose and are readily available. I use them in everything which requires a battery and use a charger which charges 4 of them in one hour but I've also used a 15 minute charger without any problem.
Eneloop information: http://www.eneloop.info/home/the-new-improved-eneloop.html

Monoprice 5,000 mAh External Battery Charger

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Having the Nexus 4 as my main device at the moment, there are things that I have to adapt to.
For one, there is not a removable battery so I have to carefully manage my battery. Using this device moderately and managing data settings, wifi, brightness, etc.. you can easily go a whole day if not more.
But playing games is a big no-no when away from a charger, on any smartphone. Add being on IM, listening to Spotify, and running uTorrent you better be prepared to have a mini coal mine in your back pocket.
With my S3 I could just swap batteries and be good to go. When I had my S2 I could just throw on my 3500 mAh extended battery. When I had my Note 2 I didn't manage jack due to the monster battery.
So I started looking for an extended battery charger for my Nexus 4 so I wouldn't never had to worry. Monoprice, like always, seemed to offer one of the better ones and at a fair price. $28.95 for a 5,000 mAh external battery with 2 USB ports. One at 1 amp for smart phones and the other port at 2.1 amps for tablets.
Pros
Charges phone quickly
Unit is charged via micro USB
Nice soft coating
Size gives me 2+ full charges on Nexus 4
Good build quality
Uses USB to output charge
2.1 Amp port for tablets is a plus, even though I have not used it due to not having a tablet
LEDs, when button is clicked, show current charge for battery
Automatically stops charging when device is fully charged
Cons
Again a problem that I did not run into myself, but if you charge a smartphone and a tablet you only get 2.1 amps of total output.
Size could be a little slimmer, then again this is a 5,000 mAh battery. (There is a smaller unit available that could solve this if you need a smaller unit).
The button on the ext. Battery has the iPhone/iPad button design that I found to be quite tacky, but obviously does not effect its usability.
The battery when fully drained will take a while to charge, being a 5,000 mAh battery of course, thats a given.
To get a mental picture of the size of this battery, its about the size of an iPod classic, just a bit shorter. I also took some snapshots of it.
I have used the battery for 2 weeks and can say I am very satisfied with the product. I even found myself using it while at home on the couch or any other area where an outlet is hard to get to. On Christmas day, while watching basketball, I sat on the couch with the battery hooked to my Nexus 4. I didnt have to sit awkwardly by an outlet whenever my battery got low.
P.S. The days of having to lay logs in the pooper and noticing horrifically thar your phone only has 5% battery life left are over!
$36 extra for delivery to Sydney, Australia
I really wanna buy one of these or a similar decent quality but they seem expensive in Aus.
I'm thinking buying this one, smaller and maybe pocketable
Should be enough to full charge the nexus 1 time.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p..._id=1083110&p_id=9752&seq=1&format=4#feedback
I have the same external battery have used it on vacation a few times. Makes for a nice backup power source and I have had no issues with it.
I was close to getting that one too, flashlight seemed useful. If it would have had a key hold or lanyard slot I would have gotten it for my keys.
I went for the bigger battery.
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Azralag said:
I was close to getting that one too, flashlight seemed useful. If it would have had a key hold or lanyard slot I would have gotten it for my keys.
I went for the bigger battery.
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thanks for the heads up on this charger, i just ordered one. how long did it take to charge your nexus 4? did you get a chance to test the 2A usb yet?
Holy **** is that an iPhone home button on it lolll
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neotekz said:
thanks for the heads up on this charger, i just ordered one. how long did it take to charge your nexus 4? did you get a chance to test the 2A usb yet?
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I have not used the 2.1 amp USB yet. Charging my Nexus 4 was just as quick as on then wall charger, if not a tad quicker.
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alleyezondisromo said:
Holy **** is that an iPhone home button on it lolll
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Yeah that's one of the things I listed as a con, looks tacky.
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So is there any chance that this charger will fit into a jeans pocket?
Stupid question, but which port do you normally use to charge your nexus 4?
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Any port will do...either 1A or 2.1A
The phone/battery have a regulator/BMS...you plug in 2.1A port the phone will only draw what it needs and normally is limited to 1A or so
I have 20K power bank for long trip and a small 5600mah which is small enough for pocket (Google "ipolar" & "Michi strengtholic")
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Stupid question, but which port do you normally use to charge your nexus 4?
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I use the 1 Amp.
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Thanks for the review. Been wanting a battery charger for a while and just ordered this one. I used the coupon code "INCENTIVE" to get 20% off. It expires today though.
i just got the charger today, the 1a port does deliver around 900mah. i think this is more of the phone throttling down the current since the 1.2a factory charger shows the same output.
The 2a port works on my phone(still only delivers around 900mah) but wont charge my nexus 7 at all.
Looks a must-have battery for those who travel.
Can anyone suggest a coupon? I tried looking online but couldn't find anything useful.
Thanks!
Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to charge these external battery packs from 0% to fully charge?
SovereigN7 said:
Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to charge these external battery packs from 0% to fully charge?
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It takes pretty long. I would guess around 6 hours using my nexus 4 adapter.
The 9000mAh battery is only $29 right now.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10831&cs_id=1083110&p_id=9531&seq=1&format=2
Costs a dollar more than the 5000mAh but packs a lot more juice.
Just picked up the 5000mAh... its good.. I charged my N4 and my moms phone at the same time.. for some reason it doesnt want to charge my Asus Transformer TF300... that sucks.. tried both ports... Its fairly small also... I like it definitely a good buy.. I also bought another cable for my N4 coz the stock cable sucks money balls.. these ones are gold plated and works really well...
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Nexus 5 doesn't take advantage of "Quick Charge"?

People are saying the phone takes 1:50-2:00 hours to charge with a 2300 mah , the LG G2 which also has a snapdragon 800 takes around 1:30 to charge with a considerably larger 3000 mah battery , the nexus 5 comes with a 1.2A charger ( the G2 comes with 1.8A charger) so maybe that's the reason, but does it support quick charge at all? Google/LG just decided to save some cents and threw a cheaper charger on the box? If I buy a 2.0A charger would I be able to use it and would the phone charge noticeably faster?
Most probably Not.
I think the Situation is a different too. LG uses its newly invented battery Type with enhanced Features. including massively improved recharging cycles.
Goggle does Not. and its known to batteries. the faster you load the quicker they die. no matter what they say. even eneloops are prooven to die much quicker when generally loaded at Max speed.
I have a Sony Tablet z charger with 1500mAh loading and a Asus me 301t loader with 2000mAh loading speed.
After some cycles I'll try them to See any difference but im sure there wont be.
DONT USE ANY FAST CHARGERS WITHIN THE FIRST (Minimum THREE) CHARGES.
Not to Do so is said to seriously harm any battery.
DJ-Tumor said:
Most probably Not.
I think the Situation is a different too. LG uses its newly invented battery Type with enhanced Features. including massively improved recharging cycles.
Goggle does Not. and its known to batteries. the faster you load the quicker they die. no matter what they say. even eneloops are prooven to die much quicker when generally loaded at Max speed.
I have a Sony Tablet z charger with 1500mAh loading and a Asus me 301t loader with 2000mAh loading speed.
After some cycles I'll try them to See any difference but im sure there wont be.
DONT USE ANY FAST CHARGERS WITHIN THE FIRST (Minimum THREE) CHARGES.
Not to Do so is said to seriously harm any battery.
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If a quick charger could harm the battery it could also charge the phone quicker which it won't because the phone regulates the battery charging process and doesn't really care if the charger is able to output >1.2A . It would make a difference if you charge your phone on a <1.2A charger of course.
If it wouldn't work that way you couldn't charge a friends 3 year old Smartphone on your wall charger
My old HTC Desire S 1450mah battery used to take 2.5-3 hours to charge. My N5 takes around 2 hours.
That is why I said it most probably won´t make any difference too.
Usually phones do limit the charging power. I don´t know any device that does not. But I would be carefull with this chinese stuff
This is why my Galaxy Note wont charge any faster than with its original charger at 1000mah.
It is even possible that the Nexus only loads at 1000mah and the loader hast a little backup. But not very likely either.
When it comes to my Note...when I remove the battery there is a sticker where it is stated what is used:
5VA 1000mah.
So we can´t do that with our nexus
Grab your (Handbuch) User manual and look up if there is any information about it.
The quick charger thing...correct...I may have gone little overboard with my warning thinking myself it wont make a difference.
But you really should keep that in mind for your mignons ect.
Quick charge is built into the Snapdragon 800 processor. Qualcomm announces it like a feature but no manufacturer uses it, probably because the N5 is only the third phone to come packing the S800. It'll be up to Qualcomm to release a patch (like they said they would) so that we can utilize the quick charge feature.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4...ers-75-percent-faster-charging-snapdragon-800
Interestingly, none of these announcements address the effect on battery capacity long term
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Would suck if they have not included quick charge...
Chad_Petree said:
People are saying the phone takes 1:50-2:00 hours to charge with a 2300 mah , the LG G2 which also has a snapdragon 800 takes around 1:30 to charge with a considerably larger 3000 mah battery , the nexus 5 comes with a 1.2A charger ( the G2 comes with 1.8A charger) so maybe that's the reason, but does it support quick charge at all? Google/LG just decided to save some cents and threw a cheaper charger on the box? If I buy a 2.0A charger would I be able to use it and would the phone charge noticeably faster?
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I refer to my (non-scientific) test conducted using the G2, S4 and N5 for charging performance. They're all pretty much the same, but the G2 was the fastest to charge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507405&page=2
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I let all the phones run down overnight to 0% using the battery drain app from Play store. I then used the charger and cable that came with each device, here are the results - interesting test.
N5 - 2,300mah battery, 5.6V / 1.2A charger
S4 - 2,600mah battery, 5.0V / 2.0A charger
G2 - 3,000mah battery, 5.0V / 1.8A charger
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Hi
Looking at the service manual the charging is handled by a Texas Instruments chip http://www.ti.com/product/bq24192. QuickCharge is a function of the Qualcom PM8941 power management chip, however as the Qualcom chip isn't charging the battery (the BQ24192 is doing this) then QuickCharge can't be implemented by a firmware update.
Regards
Phil
only thing speaking for a stronger charger would be the parallel usage of the device while charging it.
at least in my Imagination. dont Know if its technically possible if that could make a difference, but i think so.
charging my Xperia z is much quicker if i dont Touch it while its charging.
PhilipL said:
Hi
Looking at the service manual the charging is handled by a Texas Instruments chip http://www.ti.com/product/bq24192. QuickCharge is a function of the Qualcom PM8941 power management chip, however as the Qualcom chip isn't charging the battery (the BQ24192 is doing this) then QuickCharge can't be implemented by a firmware update.
Regards
Phil
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But how come the LG G2 have Quick Charge then?
My N5 charges pretty quickly compared to any of the phones I've had in the past.
per specs, Nexus 5 is Quickcharge 1.0 only. No 2.0 support.
alexktz said:
I refer to my (non-scientific) test conducted using the G2, S4 and N5 for charging performance. They're all pretty much the same, but the G2 was the fastest to charge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507405&page=2
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Thanks for sacrificing your batteries in the name of science. Apparently, running a lithium battery down to 0% is a no-no and will decrease the lifespan and capacity so should be limited...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169979
But then, I'd hope that they built in a 0% that is above that threshold. So maybe it's NOT a concern. Perhaps leaving the battery discharged for a month might drop it down that low, but that would mean you're on to your next device and battery.
Cheers, maybe I should just delete this post and not even send it. Nah...
where is quick charge in the menu? I can't find it o_o
The NX5 will NEVER have quick charge. It charges using TI's charging stuff. Therefore it will never work. Look it up. I'm not gonna bother looking it up again. I was disappointed when I saw that when it was first released.
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Dragn4rce said:
The NX5 will NEVER have quick charge. It charges using TI's charging stuff. Therefore it will never work. Look it up. I'm not gonna bother looking it up again. I was disappointed when I saw that when it was first released.
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It's Texas instruments latest ic charge controller it has better efficiency for faster charging and has battery monitoring sections that are improved
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littleguevara said:
Quick charge is built into the Snapdragon 800 processor. Qualcomm announces it like a feature but no manufacturer uses it, probably because the N5 is only the third phone to come packing the S800. It'll be up to Qualcomm to release a patch (like they said they would) so that we can utilize the quick charge feature.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4...ers-75-percent-faster-charging-snapdragon-800
Interestingly, none of these announcements address the effect on battery capacity long term
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Thanks. I thought it was an option somewhere I had to enable to make it charge faster. so it's just a passive hardware thing?
So you want to say that this is not fast charging? Barely used though, but powered on.
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Sn00ky said:
So you want to say that this is not fast charging? Barely used though, but powered on.
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It's quicker than the Nexus 4 for example but is nowhere near the LG G2 which does have quick charge and it takes the phone 1:30 hours to charge a 3000 may battery...
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Wireless vs wire charger

Hello,
What do you think is better for battery life?
I know that wireless is slower...
I have wireless charger EP-PG920IBE
Thanks!
ZaKaTRoN said:
Hello,
What do you think is better for battery life?
I know that wireless is slower...
I have wireless charger EP-PG920IBE
Thanks!
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Wired if you need a super quick charge to get max battery life as possible.
Wireless for convenience if you won't be needing the juice for a bit.
At night I always plug in.
ZaKaTRoN said:
Hello,
What do you think is better for battery life?
I know that wireless is slower...
I have wireless charger EP-PG920IBE
Thanks!
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I use wireless wherever I don't need immediate charging.
Using the Samsung S Charger pad - Wide (here)
It's amazingly fast given that it's only got an output of 900mAh (or so it says)
The whole idea of fast charging sounds unsafe to me (probably isn't) but I have doubts of the life span of a battery that gets constantly charged that fast
Stevles said:
I use wireless wherever I don't need immediate charging.
Using the Samsung S Charger pad - Wide (here)
It's amazingly fast given that it's only got an output of 900mAh (or so it says)
The whole idea of fast charging sounds unsafe to me (probably isn't) but I have doubts of the life span of a battery that gets constantly charged that fast
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For that reason my question, i think wire charger is too fast, and maybe can damage battery life. Not sure...
I have this wireless charger,
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It's a present from Samsung pre-ordening S6.
Maybe at day I will use wire, and at night wireless.
ZaKaTRoN said:
For that reason my question, i think wire charger is too fast, and maybe can damage battery life. Not sure...
I have this wireless charger,
It's a present from Samsung pre-ordening S6.
Maybe at day I will use wire, and at night wireless.
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Yeah if you need charge during the day I'd be go wired for sure just in case you need to head out at sudden notice or something.. Wireless is great when you know you have time on your hands
Stevles said:
Yeah if you need charge during the day I'd be go wired for sure just in case you need to head out at sudden notice or something.. Wireless is great when you know you have time on your hands
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One problem from wireless one, is that you can't use phone, because you're broking charging cycle (it will affects battery life). For example, a call.
So, wire even if at day I have time. And wireless at night when I'm sleeping.
For me is the best option. Is it?
ZaKaTRoN said:
One problem from wireless one, is that you can't use phone, because you're broking charging cycle (it will affects battery life). For example, a call.
So, wire even if at day I have time. And wireless at night when I'm sleeping.
For me is the best option. Is it?
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Yeah fair point
I use wireless everywhere but the car. I have wireless bedside, and on my desk at work. It's super convenient and even though it won't charge during phone calls, keeping it out he dock keeps it charged up. If I am heavy on it, I just unplug the dock and plug in directly. In the car is a different ballgame. In Texas, the summers are hot, and I've seen phones shut off because of overheating. I don't want to add the heat from a wireless charger to that. Instead, I have a quick charge 2.0 charger to top off my phone quickly during trips.
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Here are some charging numbers I took for just 10 minutes. The percentage shown is the amount gained in the 10 minute window. I made sure the phone just changed to the certain percentage before testing to make sure they were all the same. Meaning If the phone was at 34% when I plugged it in or ont he wireless charger, I waited until it changed to 35% and then did my 10 minute window.
Fast charge Charger
10 minutes 17%
Wireless charger (Duracell Powermat)
10 minutes 6%
Normal Samsung 1amp Charger
10 minutes 8%
So the wireless wasn't much slower than a normal charger
Could someone please recommend a Good fast charging wireless charger for the tmobile Gs6. Thanks In advance!!!
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xda23 said:
Could someone please recommend a Good fast charging wireless charger for the tmobile Gs6. Thanks In advance!!!
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no because it doesn't exist...
bloodrain954 said:
no because it doesn't exist...
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Lol
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likearaptor said:
Here are some charging numbers I took for just 10 minutes. The percentage shown is the amount gained in the 10 minute window. I made sure the phone just changed to the certain percentage before testing to make sure they were all the same. Meaning If the phone was at 34% when I plugged it in or ont he wireless charger, I waited until it changed to 35% and then did my 10 minute window.
Fast charge Charger
10 minutes 17%
Wireless charger (Duracell Powermat)
10 minutes 6%
Normal Samsung 1amp Charger
10 minutes 8%
So the wireless wasn't much slower than a normal charger
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I just did a test of the Samsung Wireless base.
It charged from 55% to 100% in about 1:23:30. Not as fast as 2A wired, but still a decent rate.
{UPDATE}
S6 Adaptive Fast Charger: 55%-100% in 00:50:00. I expect the S4 2A charger to be faster, which will be my next test. And if so, "Adaptive Fast Charging" is very misleading as the emphasis seems to be on "fast" as opposed to adaptive", as most people care about speed and not Amp switching.
{UPDATE 2}
I have no screenshot for this because my phone reset the stopwatch when I tried to tale a screenshot. (It takes me about 6-7 tries to take a screenshot - it usually just goes to Google app when I try to screenshot. Very annoying.)
The constant 2A Samsung charger went from 55% to 100% in 00:53:00, so it seems the "Adaptive Fast Charger" was 3min faster. I'm very surprised, but the 3min doesn't make any difference in my life.
xda23 said:
Could someone please recommend a Good fast charging wireless charger for the tmobile Gs6. Thanks In advance!!!
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http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Comp...&sr=8-1&keywords=s6+wireless+charger,+koolpad
Cheap, and works with Otterbox Defender case on my S6.
Fast? I guess that depends on how you define it.
I´m wondering whether all wireless chargers works the same? I mean if they charge evenly fast and with same efficiency, as they all are the same Qi standard?
Lukeenho said:
I´m wondering whether all wireless chargers works the same? I mean if they charge evenly fast and with same efficiency, as they all are the same Qi standard?
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I'm guessing no. In almost everything made, there is a "standard" that the item is made to, but varying qualities of build and performance. Take Bluetooth, for example. All items are made to a specific Bluetooth spec and standard, but not all accessories, transmitters, and receivers work to equal quality. I think it's a matter of the lesser accessories being good enough for you.
And keep in mind that I'm not saying that the expensive ones will always work better and the cheaper worse - just that you can't expect them to all work the same. But one thing that is true the majority the time - "you get what you pay for". And sometimes you don't.
I think that wireless charging can be handy. For instance, at work, I sit at a desk in front of a computer all day. I'll make calls a few times throughout the day to clients, and whenever I'm not on the phone, I plop the phone onto the wireless charger, and let it charge up a little. Usually, when I go home at 4:30, i'll still have a full charge. I'll drain the full charge with games or whatever while I'm at home, and I always plug it in before I go to bed. I've never found myself with a dead phone, but If you were the kind of person who was on the move all day talking to people, having a wireless charger might not be very beneficial.
Here's the wired charger I use
And the Wireless.
DevonSloan said:
And if so, "Adaptive Fast Charging" is very misleading as the emphasis seems to be on "fast" as opposed to adaptive", as most people care about speed and not Amp switching.
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The adaptive fast charging speeds up charging when the battery is low. As the battery get closer to full the fast charging slows down to prevent damage to the battery. If you redid your comparison from 5% charge to 50% charge you'd see a much larger difference between the normal and fast charger.
I have 3 off these around the house, no issues at all.
And they come in all kinds of colors/styles.
http://tinyurl.com/lbmryn5
ramk13 said:
The adaptive fast charging speeds up charging when the battery is low. As the battery get closer to full the fast charging slows down to prevent damage to the battery. If you redid your comparison from 5% charge to 50% charge you'd see a much larger difference between the normal and fast charger.
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Ah. I'll never let my battery get that low, though, so I guess it's not of much benefit to me.

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