[Q] Root NS4G 2.3.7 without clockworkmod? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

is there any way to just obtain root access without having to install a custom recovery? I would like to just have root on stock

I think every time you reboot the phone your recovery will be set back to stock. You have to flash CWM every time you need to use it.

Budge_uK said:
I think every time you reboot the phone your recovery will be set back to stock. You have to flash CWM every time you need to use it.
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This is incorrect. Once you flash a custom recovery it is there to stay unless you remove it. Now on too the real point. Why would you want to root and not have a custom recovery? The point of having root access is to be able to gain access to things you can't unrooted and top flash custom firmware, hacks, mods, etc. which you cannot do with stock recovery. Secondly why would you want to stay on stock gingerbread when there are TONS of beautiful ICS roms to run. If you really want to be stock then root and flash a deodexed stock ROM. If not try MIUI or a tweaked out ICS ROM.
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This is MIUI and it's beautiful.
Anyways...If your problem is with CWM in general then flash TWRP (great UI and all touch input) as far as rooting check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17300587 there are how to videos and what not. Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9919944 for everything you need to get your phone connected to your computer (drivers, etc.) And here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21968928 for different recoveries.
Trust me, rooting and flashing custom firmware is the best thing you can do for your NS4G and is safe as long as you always follow instructions and keep a good stable nandroid backup just in case.
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Its not that I am afraid to flash, I constantly flash roms but i am most comfortable with gingerbread and was wondering if i can just have it rooted without a custom recovery because I dont want to flash any other roms for the time being.

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Election Day said:
Only if you install a custom ROM. The stock ROM reflashes the stock recovery on every boot.
It can be disabled by removing or renaming /system/etc/install-recovery.sh though.
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Ahhh I forgot about that.
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[Q] rom manager and G2x

I was unable after searching to find a clear answer. Why is rom manager not able to flash clockwork on the g2x. Will it ever be possible or will we always have to update cw through NVflash?
An application cannot tamper with the recovery image of the device, no matter what. NVflash works with the processor directly.
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LordButtersI said:
An application cannot tamper with the recovery image of the device, no matter what. NVflash works with the processor directly.
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That sucks, thanks.
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If I installed CWM using NVFlash, should I still install ROM Manager from market once my phone is up and running?
I did the install after setting up the phone. There is really not much it does. If you try to check for a new nightly or ROM it always says to install the recovery. If you try to reboot to recovery, same thing. There just does not seem to be a lot of use around the application when it cannot do anything with the recovery at all.
mmapcpro said:
If I installed CWM using NVFlash, should I still install ROM Manager from market once my phone is up and running?
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Maybe. It does make things a bit more convienent, and doing the fake flash does not overwrite the true flash of NVFlash, or if it does just go back and flash via NV again. You can tell the difference because fake flash is orange while true flash is red.
I installed before I flashed true recovery, and the app still works. There's nothing Rom Manager does that CWM doesn't (unless you buy premium), but the app does it a bit more easily and saves you from having to navigate recovery mode.
Rom manager does not support dual core
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You don't need to fake flash to use all the features. Just press menu and click manual flash override. It allows you to set your recovery in the app so it will let you use all the features.
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If I installed CWM using NVFlash, should I still install ROM Manager from market once my phone is up and running?
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its not needed unless your returning the phone to stock.

Encryption is it worth doing

All of my study is in the city so my tab could get stolen one day and at home i have a younger brother who loves to play with settings etc
Is the encyption worth the hassle?
Does it break anything?
Do i have to decrypt re-encrypt every boot is it slow?
I have never had this option before but it seems like a good idea i just want to know how it plays in real world use before i do it.
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Decided to try it
it didnt work little droid man for a couple seconds then reboot then nothing any thoughts is this a root issue rom issue?
has anyone who isnt on stock got this option working is it just my tab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232907
Thanks for that but it didnt say why it doesnt work with some custom roms
either way ill probably leave it for now but thanx all the same
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debork said:
The problem with having an encrypted partition is that CWM at moment can't really do anything useful to those partitions. You cannot flash, backup, or restore via CWM. This means your ability to work with custom ROMs is effectively crippled. In fact, to undo the encryption (or if you forget your password), I had to nvflash back to stock. Factory reset via CWM cannot be done since, again, the partitions are still encrypted.
If in the future, CWM is able to access the partitions like the stock recovery can, then you'd be fine.
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I wouldn't touch it for now. If/When CWM allows for it (possibly ICS, as I might guess that the closed nature of HC is limiting development around encryption support?) then maybe..
Thats a good point ae hopefully with icys than can also make abit more headway with the more advanced recoverys to
Never thought about that before thanks
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Unable to root or upgrade to official ICS i727R

So I just got myself a GS3 and i am prepping my Skyrocket for sale. I was on CM9 and i did a factory reset/delete USB from the phone's settings. Then when i rebooted i was stuck on the CM9 boot logo for ever and ever. So i used this method to restore to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348 and everything went A1, my phone is back to orignal factory state as is just like the day i bought it. Then i plug into kies to upgrade to official ICS and it tells me my firmware is not compatible for the update. Bummer, so in reinstall all samsung software, kies and drivers and still the same issue. So i though it would be great just to root the phone and update it to CM9 but when i try to root this is what i get using 1click:
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So now i dont know what to do, i cant upgrade the official way nor the unofficial way and my sales ad states it come with ICS and 2 buyers already backout because it was on gingerbread.
Anybody know WTF is this??
Just from personal experience dont use the oneclick method try the odin root method , seems to have less problems and it works flawlessly for me.
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i always used one click and never had any problems. but i will consider it, thx
polish_pat said:
i always used one click and never had any problems. but i will consider it, thx
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read this to return to true stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652398 u can use odin to flash stock rogers ics, u dont need kies to do it
thanks, will try that
The return to stock thread is really confusing... I have a rogers skyrocket unlocked using on fido, I wanna upgrade to ICS but the single click odin failed Im assuming its because that one is for the ATT skyrocket...how can i upgrade to ICS on my rogers skyrocket? I'm rooted...
Go to sammobile and download the Rogers (I727R) ics tar. Make sure you do a factory before you put your phone in download mode.
You can do it after but you may get some fc on first boot after flashing
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Noob Verizon GS3 question

In the past i have rooted other phones without wiping the phone, however, from looking at the root methods for the Verizon GS3 It looks as though you have to flash a rom in the process of rooting it. Is it possible to root the Verizon GS3 without wiping data?
littleneutrino said:
In the past i have rooted other phones without wiping the phone, however, from looking at the root methods for the Verizon GS3 It looks as though you have to flash a rom in the process of rooting it. Is it possible to root the Verizon GS3 without wiping data?
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Yes click on the link in my sig.
I flashed the stocked rooted ROM and my data was never wiped.
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antispiral said:
I flashed the stocked rooted ROM and my data was never wiped.
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So If i flash the stock rooted rom using this method once the phone turns back on i will not notice anything has changed other than it now having root?
littleneutrino said:
So If i flash the stock rooted rom using this method once the phone turns back on i will not notice anything has changed other than it now having root?
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Yep, that's how it was for me. I was worried I would lose my data too, but I was pleasently surprised.
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Since your not changing roms to a custom one but instead going stock to stock modded, you can dirty flash and you will be fine.
A dirty flash you don't loose your data.
Using the "Root66" method in the Verizon Development forum does not require a wiping of user/application data.
Not the first screen shot of Verizon saying they will unlock the bootloader, and this is one of a few places I can post.
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Like the few others I''ve seen this rep may not know what they are talking about, but I was fishing for an answer, already got a nexus galaxy rocking 4.1.1, and an S3 which is currently stock till the RIL is completely cracked.
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Prepping for 4.4.3 OTA Question

The M8 is the first HTC phone I've had. I was a Motorola fan until they locked down their phones tight. I've S-Offed, rooted and bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed on my M8. I'm running a few mods through Xposed and have bloatware frozen with Titanium. I'm just curious if I need to S-on or relock the bootloader and flash the stock recovery to take the OTA? I've heard to wait for devs to get ahold of the update and check it out first but even then what preparations do I need to make? Would really appreciate the help guys. Thanks in advance.
In order to take the OTA you will pretty much have to go back to stock. I would wait until it drops and flash a custom version so you can keep all your tweaks.
If you WANT to accept the ota, I believe you will need stock ROM, stock kernel, and you will need stock recovery. Not sure about locked boot loader, but s off should be fine.
If you DONT want to accept the ota, flash a ROM like cleanrom with a custom recovery and hang tight until someone packages the firmware. For this you will need to use one of the two s off methods, firewater or sunshine s off
By that do you mean one that devs make flashable through custom recovery? Sorry I feel like a newb with this phone. Wish all manufacturers could just do things the same way. I definitely don't want to lose root or unlocked bootloader
Guess I'll just hang tight and see what other people are cooking up once the OTA drops
Mudvayne622 said:
By that do you mean one that devs make flashable through custom recovery? Sorry I feel like a newb with this phone. Wish all manufacturers could just do things the same way. I definitely don't want to lose root or unlocked bootloader
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Yes
sfobrien said:
Yes
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Great. Thanks for the help. Definitely like HTC better than Motorola already.
Yeah, I'm sure Scott will make a flashable zip of the stock rom. He's going to stock now to be able to pull files and such. Just wait it out till a flashable zip hits.
Will it be just like flashing on a Motorola? Flash from custom recovery and all my data settings stay just like if I took the OTA?
Mudvayne622 said:
Great. Thanks for the help. Definitely like HTC better than Motorola already.
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I agree, the HTC is an awesome device right out of the box. After tweaking it's even better !
Mudvayne622 said:
Will it be just like flashing on a Motorola? Flash from custom recovery and all my data settings stay just like if I took the OTA?
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I'd recommend a clean flash because its going from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3
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