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With the advent of Android 3.0 ("Gingerbread"), can we all agree..? (Do chime in)

With the advent of Android 3.0 ("Gingerbread"), can we all agree..? (Do chime in)
This posting is really @ALLHeadset Makers, but I'd like ppl's opinions. Will they listen? Who knows?
Okay, so it's been "leaked" (which I really consider to be "strategic information divulgence") that Android 3.0 ...
# Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher.
# New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher.
# Completely revamped user interface. If you want to get a feeling of what Android 3.0 Gingerbread UX is like, check out the Gallery App on Nexus One. The same overall feel, light animated transitions,etc. Natively, through all the UI.
What I'd really like to see come this holiday season, with both GSM & CDMA offerings is ...
Mandatory Techs
#Worldphone
# QSD8672 (if device is by HTC) @1.5GHz or the next iteration of Hummingbird (if by Samsung); Samsung's S5PC110 with PowerVR SGX540 is capable of 90 million triangles per second , so I'd like to see –
# GPU capable of at least 180 million TPS, but I'd really like to minimally reach the PS3's 250 million TPS
# at least 1GB RAM
# NAND Flash internal storage (as opposed to [micro]SD)
# Gyroscope
# 8MP+ w/ at least one LED flash (one LED and a Xenon flash for taking photos being preferable, of course, and prob goes w/o saying, but you've GOOOTTA) have a flash ... Can we say Touch Pro2, anyone?) & at least 720p (preferably 1080p) video recording @ 30fps, but capable of 24fps for that look
# front–facing camera, taking video at a minimum VGA resolution, but I think we'd all like to see 1.3MP or more, and at no less than 30fps
# trackball or optical dpad is ABSOLUTELY mandatory, 'cause ... well, why the H3LL NOT!? I mean, really, how much space does it really take up (or cost)? I'd rather have one than not (Can we say Touch Pro2 .., AGAIN!?)
# HD radio
# Stereo speakers &
# at least two microphones (This combination worked very well for the Touch Pro2, so Kudos HTC ... this time...)
# 4" minimum screen size (although I think 5" is juuust right) to take advantage of ...
# 1280×720 & no less (Don't try to sell us short here ... DAMMIT!!!), preferably Super AMOLED, but we know they're in short supply ... and, Samsung's not sharin' the wealth currently
# 24-bit color depth, 'cause 16-bit ... seriously? ::cocking eyebrow:: It's F*&%IN' 2010!! I mean, just say it, twenty-ten. If that doesn't sound like we're in the future, I don't know what does.
# Gorilla Glass display
# Kickstand or tilting keyboard
# USB Host
# SRS 5.1 Virtual Surround
# Bluetooth 3
Possible Techs
# Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 (a la Nokia N8)
# 3D, a la Nintendo 3DS with 2/3D gradient, and all (Haven't seen it in person, so I don't know how effective it is, but everything I've read said it looks great‼)
# Solar paneling. Hmm... ::shrugs::
If the device has a hardware keyboard, it should use an HTC's Touch Pro2–like layout, which is the de facto BEST layout to date. A-GPS, Wi-Fi (which'd better be a/b/g/n ... well, maybe not so much a. ::shrugs:: ), accelerometer, digital compass, proximity & light sensors, 3.5mm audio jack, microSDHC (but, if available, microSDXC) slot that is accessible w/o removing the battery, or even taking off the battery cover, and by that time, 4G, all go w/o saying, and only a damned fool would leave any of these out. I think USB 3.0 would be a nice addition, too, but not mandatory. Also, I feel IR should not only return, but also be implemented with decent range, 'cause although it's slow as F*&%, it was nice to use my device as a universal remote. I never understood why the tech was removed in the first place. ::shrugs::
Well, that's all I really have to say about that. Please, do tell me what you all think. And, hopefully, these wanks in the hardware market, or R&D, or whoever the H3LL scours over the internet to find what customers want and'd be most marketable, sees this and tells his/her higher-ups.
"Goodnight & God Bless" ...
UPDATE: As far as pricing goes, let's not forget that it's most probable that carriers will continue to subsidize at or around the same price the top–of–the–line smartphones have been going for, ~$200—300, and a contract–free price of ~$650—800. Think about it, more oft than not, the successor of one model is released at the same price its predecessor was released at.

Dude,this sounds like a laptop that can make calls etc!With this kind of hardware we'll be able to run pc games on our phones!But we would need a portable power generator to keep the battery alive a whole day straight...Unless they equip these phones with some super 3000 mAh battery!
Anyway...Just remember that a year ago we had the same reaction when speaking about the phones with 1GHz CPU and giant screens that we have today!
****in' technology...It'll make us believe in magic sooner or later!
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tolis626 said:
... Just remember that a year ago we had the same reaction when speaking about the phones with 1GHz CPU and giant screens that we have today!
****in' technology...It'll make us believe in magic sooner or later!
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I, I do believe in magic. lol
But, seriously, though. Very doable.

Tell you what, this minimum specs was Google's first stupid decision! Come on! Devices like HTC Legend have been out for a couple of weeks & now Google says there will be no future for them? Unified android without stupid custom UIs was a great idea but if it meant it would be released for all devices simultaneously not just left owners in the cold! I think having minimum specs like this will only make developers lazy, it means no need for polishing the code & make it light!

In my opinion they should release two versions,one for high-end phones and another for devices without that much breathtaking hardware.Anyone agree?

::bump:: @Samsung
Well, apparently, someone's (ie: Samsung) actually listening to the community. Hopefully not just a rumor, but ...
Samsung i9200 Galaxy S2
4.3" Super AMOLED 2(? ... !! So, I'd imagine 24-bit color depth, too) 1280 X 720 @340 ppi(!!)
2 GHz CPU or a dual-core 1 GHz processor (although this disappoints in that Qualcomm's flagship'll have a dual-core 1.5GHz. Hopefully, they mean 2GHz dual-core )
Bluetooth 3.0
gyroscope
android 3.0
So, like I'd said, hope that's a dual-core 2GHz processor, but if not, ehh. Maybe it'll be comparable, if not better than Qualcomm's offering. 'Cause we can see how the Hummingbird can best the Snapdragon in the gfx dept, currently. The only thing missing for me is the lack of a trackball or optical dpad, which I really, really hope Samsung reconsiders. So, @Samsung, please do reconsider, and please, don't make ppl have to wait for a CDMA offering. Release 'em simultaneously.

kain144000 said:
Well, apparently, someone's (ie: Samsung) actually listening to the community. Hopefully not just a rumor, but ...
Samsung i9200 Galaxy S2
4.3" Super AMOLED 2(? ... !! So, I'd imagine 24-bit color depth, too) 1280 X 720 @340 ppi(!!)
2 GHz CPU or a dual-core 1 GHz processor (although this disappoints in that Qualcomm's flagship'll have a dual-core 1.5GHz. Hopefully, they mean 2GHz dual-core )
Bluetooth 3.0
gyroscope
android 3.0
So, like I'd said, hope that's a dual-core 2GHz processor, but if not, ehh. Maybe it'll be comparable, if not better than Qualcomm's offering. 'Cause we can see how the Hummingbird can best the Snapdragon in the gfx dept, currently. The only thing missing for me is the lack of a trackball or optical dpad, which I really, really hope Samsung reconsiders. So, @Samsung, please do reconsider, and please, don't make ppl have to wait for a CDMA offering. Release 'em simultaneously.
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ill buy this samsung, i love their products!

Man I'm drooling just thinking about those specs! I love technology! Oh and OP, you forgot to add a front facing camera in there.
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Guys,how about a phone that can take us to the moon?
Well,all that is really nice and I would kill to get one of those phones,but how much will they cost?Seriously!That sounds like some 1000 euros gone to HTC...

Qualcomm can shove it.
I dont like the whole BREW crap. Just the idea of it.
Texas Instaments is where its at, OMAP4 is 2ghz isnt it? (Been a while since i visited their dev. Site)
As for 3.0, i donvt think it will have those min req. Why would google even ditch their own phone......
The evo spec will ne the min req. If you ask me.
composically

ArcticWolf91 said:
... OP, you forgot to add a front facing camera in there...
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You're absolutely right. Original post's been corrected.

You forgot the suitcase of batteries to power the thing...
Seriously though.. 5" screen? WAY too big for a phone that goes in your pocket.

What the H3LL! Let's throw some solar panels on that ß17©#, too.

Oh dear God, please no F*ing AMOLED display. The pentile matrix on my Desire is driving me crazy, and the Galaxy S I played with was even worse. Crisp LCD text for me please!

Is everyone mad? Those specs are rediculous!! I for one don't want a screen larger then 3.2" maybe 3.5" depending on the form factor. Anything higher then 3.5" wont fit in my tight jeans pockets very well, hell my topaz is even tight enough that I put it in my bag while sitting down.

LordVarkson said:
Is everyone mad? Those specs are rediculous!! I for one don't want a screen larger then 3.2" maybe 3.5" depending on the form factor. Anything higher then 3.5" wont fit in my tight jeans pockets very well, hell my topaz is even tight enough that I put it in my bag while sitting down.
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Overlooked that a little bit. The 3.7" on my Desire is already too big, to be honest.
Give me 720p 16:9 on a 3.5" LCD please

Display wise, the 1280 x 760 is very achievable, and pixel density, how about 500 ppi, since Steve Jobs lied about the maximum retinal perception.
GOOD eyesight limit: 477ppi.
Source: Samsung (Since they're some of the leaders when it comes to displays.

I think that, if they're going to target consumers who have never used Android before, they need to at least have a phone that is fast, has good multimedia features (camera, etc.), as well as a good hardware design.
The only good Android camera phone that I've seen is the Samsung Galaxy S, which is only 5MP. Also, I think 4.3" is really pushing it for the average consumer. I thought the screen size of the Nexus One (3.7") was perfectly fine, and the max I would go is probably 4.0", assuming that the screen bezel is thin. That is just my opinion, as I don't think I have ever watched videos nor have done heavy reading on a phone while mobile. A larger screen would make reading emails more friendly, but the text is most often wrapped, so a humongous screen is definitely not necessary.

Vonrottes said:
Qualcomm can shove it.
I dont like the whole BREW crap. Just the idea of it.
Texas Instaments is where its at, OMAP4 is 2ghz isnt it?
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Honestly, all of my devices, ever since the UTStarcom/Audiovox/whoevertheF*&%ever PPC-6700, have used Qualcomm processors, so they're all that I know. I don't know whether it's HTC or Qualcomm's fault, or both, but they've been absolutely TERRIBLE in regards to GPUs, just F*&%IN' TERRIBLE‼ I'm not too familiar with OMAP processor performance, but I do know that Samsung's doin' the damn thing with their Hummingbird. I mean, they're outdoing EVERYONE in the GPU department, 3–F*&%IN'–X over‼
Also, I'd updated the original post. I'd forgot an easily accessible microSDHC(XC) slot.

Gingerbread Phone
Since we're all going to the loony bin, let's go ahead and add in a 3D display. Also, a 1750 battery.
I would love:
3.7 - 4.0" display with a resolution of 1080 x 720 and around 400+ PPI (maybe 3D video recording/playback and pictures - no glasses necessary -), 24-bit (180 degree viewing angle)
Dual core 2Ghz TI OMAP 45nm processor with Nvidia Tegra 2 GPU (does that make sense?) (reason for dual core 2Ghz and not just a 2Ghz, they're thinking dual core will be better for battery. one proc. shuts down when not in use saving power)
1GB RAM with 16GB ROM and microSD slot (as previously stated, no need to remove battery cover) (comes with 8-16GB class 6 microSD card)
Able to record excellent quality full 720p videos at constant 30FPS and excellent light sensor for perfect low-light settings. Able to play back 1080p videos
Able to record excellent quality 1080p video at constant 20FPS
Excellent audio quality
Gyroscope + Accelerometer + A-GPS + Bluetooth 3.0 + WiFi b/g/n + digital compass + WiMAX + FM radio + proximity and light sensors
2MP front-facing camera able to record at constant 30FPS
5MP+ back camera with either dual LED flash or one LED for recording and one Xenon for picture taking
1750mAh battery
Capacitive buttons + optical trackball + dedicated camera button
Dual antenna
Three microphones
Unibody aluminum housing with a thin strip of durable rubber along the edges for extra ruggedness
Internal fitted sheet of thin durable rubber on back of phone (remember, internally) for shock resistance
Android mascot placed on bottom left-hand of the device
Preloaded with Inception (LOL. because like the movie, this phone will f*ck your mind)
500 hours stand-by
Up to 10 hours talk time
Up to 15 hours WiFi / 10 hours 3G / 7 hours 4G internet usage
Up to 20 hours video playback
Up to 60 hours audio playback
No 3rd party skinned Android 3.0
No thicker than .06"
No limits placed on hardware/software capabilities
And a game-pad (d-pad, analog stick - think PSP -, a, b, c, d button, L and R bumpers, start and select) casing to buy as an accessory for emulators that works over Bluetooth and only adds roughly .05" thickness when equipped
Did I forget anything?

[Q] THE PERFECT PHONE! How would you design it?

Everyday we hear about the newest technology coming out for mobile devices. but if we at XDA could design our own branded phone, how would we do it?
what would the specs be like?
would it run a home-baked version of android? or the latest WinMO? how about Ios4?
screen size? would it be small like the aria? or a 4.3" screen? or would we opt for a tablet?
speaking of screens? pixel Qi? Super AMOLED? basic LCD? FAMOLED? or the famous Gorilla Glass? how would we view our device?
would it be running 512 RAM? or a whopping 1024 Mb?
would we go for the 1.2 Ghz dual core processors? or conserve our battery and stay at 800 Mhz?
would it come with a QWERTY board? or on-screen only? hard buttons or touch-sensitive (for the main four buttons)?
What other crazy technology would you guys like to see in the ultimate XDA-Mobile device?
as a side note- what about pre-installed apps?

I'd take the HD2, and add SPB MS5 and S2P.
Job done.
God I have simple needs

Wouldn't this be a fun task to be chosen for. Lets see:
Stock Android would be the OS with an Nvidia Tegra2 dual core processor. I'd slap 1536MB of RAM in it, the other 512MB would be for the OS and another 1024 for the user. Because I like having a hard keyboard there would be one of those, obviously making it a slider. It would support recording in 1080p from it's 12MP camera with xenon flash and have a mini HDMI output on it. The radio module would support all GSM 3G bands and have the ability to utilize 4G if the carrier has it. The wifi would support the N band as well as B/G. Wifi tethering would be included along with NFC. All that would be displayed on a capacitive 3.7" 640x960 (~300ppi) S-AMOLED screen protected by Gorilla Glass. The power would be supplied be an advanced LiPoly battery with carbon nanotube electrodes in it to increase output and run time. Surround that with a aluminum alloy case and I think I'd be set. I might think of more later.

4" [insert latest OLED technology here] screen, landscape QWERTY, Tegra 2, great speakers, 1080p video out, SD slot accessible without removing battery, not designed by Samsung and definitely not in glossy black
That should last me for years and is not at all farfetched (I'm guessing we will see something like this around Q2-Q3 2011, and hopefully by then HTC would have tamed their recent obsession with cutting corners)

After really putting some thought into this, here is what I came up with:
Hardware
Processor: nVidia Tegra 2 Dual-Core
Memory: 1024 MB
Screen: 4" FAMOLED 800x1200 (~360ppi)
Camera: 1080p (30FPS) 8MP with dual xenon flash (back); 3MP front facing camera
Keyboard: On-screen (Swype)
Connections: WiFi a/b/g/n with latter being dual band; GSM (850/900/1800/1900/2100); LTE 4G
Additional: Trackball, Volume Rocker (left top), capacitive buttons, camera button (right bottom), 3.5mm headphone jack (top right), side-loading expandable microSD slot (right top), 1080p mini-HDMI output (left bottom)
Design
-Aluminum alloy unibody-esque reminiscent of Nexus One (i.e. rounded edges)
-Black matte finish with rubberized texture (also in silver finish)
OS/Software
-Android 3.0 Honeycomb
-Video editing software
-Facial recognition software
-Google Market
Manufactured by HTC

what the hell is FAMOLED?

nexus 2
htc made with g1 keyboard
samsung 4 inch s amoled screen, nokia n8 camera, android 2.2, 1.2 gh processor. 1024 storage on board for user

tcv14 said:
what the hell is FAMOLED?
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Flexible Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode
Here is a video link:
http://www.esphoneblog.com/2010/07/20/video-unbreakable-amoled-screen-by-samsung/

2Ghz processor
a real hardware keyboard
Able to boot WM/Android/WP7
4.3" screen if possible with the above post technology
hTC desing of course
and hTC OS!!

Hardware keyboard, Latest android OS, 4.3" FAMOLED screen, gorilla glass, 1.2GHz processor, best GPU to date (don't know what that is), 3200mAH battery (LiPoly), HDMI out of course, agree on the 12MP camera, 8MP multi-focus front-facing camera, LED Notifications (pretty common but still saying it so y'know), HTC form-factor and button layout (volume top-left, camera bottom right, etc), ditto on the aluminum casing (matte black finish), rubberized edges (fall guards, not sure what they're really called), totally pre-rooted (no NAND lock or rootkits yay!), 4G capable, wifi 802.11a/b/g/n, up to 12dB speaker output, 3.5mm headphone jack, full bluetooth (headset, wiimote, game controller/keyboard support), no simlock, non-integrated SIM, magnetic docking detection (those of you who know how some phones detect docking will know what I mean), microUSB connector, full gapps pre-installed (since no nandlock you can remove the system apps you don't want ^_^), some sort of lost/stolen phone software like lookout mobile (or custom one ), XDA app pre-installed naturally, swype (some people like it,not me but it's popular), ease of theming like in CM6, live wallpapers, (if possible) 1024x768 772ppi res (sweet), full flash support, OC kernel and something like set-cpu pre-installed, of course terminal emulator or android terminal (same thing really), 256MB RAM for OS and 1024 storage, microSD expansion slot not under the battery cover (gets annoying to pop it off to play with the card) and I think that's it for now ^_^
Edit: wow looks like a lot of us have the same ideas, that must mean those ideas are awesome . HTC should definitely start a research panel on XDA.

the perfect phone to me needs to surpass all that is current and then hold it's position on top for several years so software can catchup.
imagine a phone without the front buttons at all, instead, slap them on the right side along with the volume rocker for a piano like feel. top to bottom something like this:
vol+
vol-
menu-indented
home
back
search/camera click
now you can reduce the bezels on the width to nothing and the height to just allow the front cam, ear speaker, mic, misc sensors.
then put hdmi and usb on the left for docking (more l8r)
now pack the features in...
since were talking about a phone that needs to reign king for awhile, let's go with the tegra 5 (logan) and support it with about 2GB of ram, 32 and 64GB internal memory, 32GB expansion, an 11+ MP camera (more on camera later), 720p 4.3" display (1280x720) with an 16:9 aspect all on samoled plus (approx. 341PPI)(read the LITI technology part), and slap stock 4.0 android in it.
i'm envisioning a near borderless, stylish, phone...maybe blue on the backing?
now the fun part...add-ons:
a 3 prone clip-on optical lens for camera (just press n turn fashion)
a slim, foldable, keyboard that plugs into the usb (removable)
a "controller" dock the the phone sets into and gives a playstaion controller like feel with the phone in the middle
lapdock? (thanks moto...)
more to come, but that's my idea of things...

able to Launch ios, android and wm7

Motorola Milestone 2?

atrix w/ defy protection would be perfect for me

The batphone! Can't get better than that!
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What would be your ideal phone?

What would be your ideal phone? Just list the specs of the phone you think would blow ALL the other phones out of the water and would keep you satisfied for the full 2 years. I'll start :]
1) 4.5" Super Amoled HD display(going edge to edge, removing the Sammy/Verizon logos to make room for more screen)
2) 4g LTE with great modems/radios so we aren't dropping constantly
3) 1800mah battery(minimum! I'd want to be able to get 8 hours of heavy usage without calibrating the battery!)
4) A notification LED... seriously it's not hard!
5) Quad core Tegra 3
6) Full 1080p video recording at 30fps+
7) A nice quality camera, not just megapixels but a camera that doesn't wash the pictures out and just looks nice and lifelike.
8) Front facing camera
9) A good speaker(both the earpiece and the actual speaker). Our Charge has a GREAT speaker, very loud with a nice hump so you can hear the sound even when it's laying on its back.
10) ICS out of the box with great support for bug fixes and future OS releases!
11) Lock button on the side; like the Charge. I can't STAND how so many phones feel the need to put the lock button on the top, it's just so out of the way and annoying to press. Makes locking the phone feel like a chore... lol.
12) 2 models of the same phone, one with a physical keyboard and one without. I personally would always choose the keyboard version(if it has a Droid 3 style keyboard) but some people like the keyboard-less phones for less bulk.
13) ALL CARRIERS! I HAVE A FAMILY PLAN AND WILL NEVER SWITCH TO ANOTHER CARRIER JUST FOR 1 PHONE! AHHHHG! Lol.
14) Have the option to choose either TouchWiz(or the other makers equivalent) or stock(you know, the Gummycharged/Nexus look). Give people who don't mod/root options too!
15) Probably the most important; unlocked bootloader.
I know some of the tech isn't out yet but it will be by the end of this year/early next year. If they make a phone meeting these requirements in all honesty it would probably last me 4 years. A lot of people complained that $300 was too much for a phone but I would gladly pay $500 for this phone.. on contract. Although it will never happen it's kinda fun listing the specs for your ideal phone, give it a try

Alright, i'll throw out some ridiculous stuff...
1. 5" SAMOLED+HD (nothin' but screen...)
2. 4G...without the battery drain or dropouts.
3. 2000 mAh battery
4. Notification LED. Never had one on any of my phones but everyone says its nice to have...
5. Quad Core Tegra 3 1.5+ ghz (smokin...)
6. 1080p HD video at 24fps (most video cameras do this as standard)
7. 10MP camera with real focus and a dual LED flash
8. 8MP FFC (gotta strain that 4G)
9. Ear-rape volume speaker. Seriously, I want to be able to hear this thing over a jackhammer.
10. Ability to come out of sleep by pressing home
11. Ice Cream Sammidge. With FREQUENT updates, not this Samsung once-in-a-blue-moon-if-ever crap
11a. Excellent source.
12. An actual accurate predictive keyboard. Even the GB one is total horse ****, I just use SwiftKey.
13. Verizon only, *****es!
14. AOSP out of the box.
15. Unlocked bootloader.
16. Unlocked bootloader.
17. Unlocked bootloader.
18. Capacitive menu buttons
19. ASSLOAD of dev support!
20. Lightweight and slim, but not cheap feeling. Gorilla glass doesn't need to be said as it's becoming the standard.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyCharged 2.0

by capacitive buttons you mean the kind that are on the Bionic? Those are gross! I hate the "touch" buttons, I think the only thing that should be touch responsive is the "touch" screen! I think everything else should be physical.

You guys forgot one thing:
-Sandwich maker

It was implied... lol

Updates shouldn't b a problem for long... Samsung hired steve kondit(maybe spelled wrong) a.k.a cyanogen... Old news but still pumped..
1. Fascinate design with steel scratch proof backing,
4.3 in samoled HD something like 1900x1080p resolution DD
NO TOUCHWIZ... Maybe a nexus 4 vzw would b sweet
Quad core 1.5ghz hummingbird or tegra
A nokia 13mp rear camera
Ide b happy with a 3.2mp ffc
5 gen wireless internet something like 100mb/s lmao
Wireless battery charging(phone that never needs plugged in)
8gb of ram 64gb internal memory with a way to from anywhere view and transfer files from home cpu
And might as well add a 3d interactive projection display above screen..
And then I woke up
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lol'd irl.

Imagine a galaxy phone preloaded with cm7 outta the box
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Y'all are forgetting the Teleportation mode. No, seriously, as long as it texts, makes/receives calls, and can browse the web, I don't really mind the rest.
My HTC Wildfire S runs MagicOS (Unicorn Hair, Rainbow Extract and Pixie Dust).

I don't know about my ideal phone, but my next phone will have:
HD samoled plus min 4.3"
Quad core
Same size or smaller than Charge.
Better battery than Charge
1 g ram
Faster camera
Honestly I'm pretty happy with the charge. Faster cpu would be nice for complex web pages. Screen is sweet, but a bit more res would be cool. Better camera is always good since it is the camera I use the most.
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elucid said:
I don't know about my ideal phone, but my next phone will have:
HD samoled plus min 4.3"
Quad core
Same size or smaller than Charge.
Better battery than Charge
1 g ram
Faster camera
Honestly I'm pretty happy with the charge. Faster cpu would be nice for complex web pages. Screen is sweet, but a bit more res would be cool. Better camera is always good since it is the camera I use the most.
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Honestly the best part about the Charge is the unlocked bootloader, sweet lord I can never flash enough files! It just keeps the phone so fresh in terms of looks AND features!

4.5" Super HD screen, 240 fps, tougher than gorilla glass.
32gb on board with option of sd card
2000 mah battery with a motion charging system (charges when it moves) easy swap battery (for the super long trips)
a form factor that would allow a multitude of aftermarket accessories
All with a solid network that is 99.9999999% reliable with speeds of 100down/50up
12 megapixel camera with manual adjustable shutter
support for all formats of music and video
fm radio, gps, all the usual stuff

Cruzerx said:
4.5" Super HD screen, 240 fps, tougher than gorilla glass.
32gb on board with option of sd card
2000 mah battery with a motion charging system (charges when it moves) easy swap battery (for the super long trips)
a form factor that would allow a multitude of aftermarket accessories
All with a solid network that is 99.9999999% reliable with speeds of 100down/50up
12 megapixel camera with manual adjustable shutter
support for all formats of music and video
fm radio, gps, all the usual stuff
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Tougher than Gorilla Glass ? Bring on the King-Kong Glass !
Sent via my magical HTC Wildfire S.

The things you guys are posting are way too far fetched. If that's the case I want a 5 inch 3200x1800 screen.
Here are some feasible things on my ideal phone.
1. 4.5 inch SAMOLED+ display with no real buttons on the phone. They'd be on screen like honeycomb tablets and no samsung/verizon branding on the front of the phone.
2. Dual core 1.4ghz processor
3. 1gb ram
4. Quality 8mp shooter with 2mp front facer
5. Notification LED
6. Global 4g LTE support
7. Super loud speakers
etc

Sleek69 said:
The things you guys are posting are way too far fetched. If that's the case I want a 5 inch 3200x1800 screen.
Here are some feasible things on my ideal phone.
1. 4.5 inch SAMOLED+ display with no real buttons on the phone. They'd be on screen like honeycomb tablets and no samsung/verizon branding on the front of the phone.
2. Dual core 1.4ghz processor
3. 1gb ram
4. Quality 8mp shooter with 2mp front facer
5. Notification LED
6. Global 4g LTE support
7. Super loud speakers
etc
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Were allowed to dream right... Godzilla glass
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1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB

wilsondonakanty07 said:
1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB
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I literally don't know what half of those things are.... D:

I want
4.3" 720p SAMOLED SCREEN
Dual Core CPU, preferably Exynos or Tegra 2
Body of GS2 with materials of the Droid X
Unlocked Bootloader
Comes with completely stock ICS
10MP Instant Shutter Camera
4G LTE With a better radio (better reception, better battery)
Battery life of a moto phone. with a 1900 mAH battery
Unlocked Bootloader
No Bloatware
Timely updates and bugfixes, not like the 2 small updates, maybe a big one then forget the device
3mp ffc camera that can be used full quality
Unlocked Bootloader
I just pretty much describes the Nexus Prime.
Bring on the Nexus

wilsondonakanty07 said:
1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB
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I got a hard-on reading this.
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rami98 said:
I want
4.3" 720p SAMOLED SCREEN
Dual Core CPU, preferably Exynos or Tegra 2
Body of GS2 with materials of the Droid X
Unlocked Bootloader
Comes with completely stock ICS
10MP Instant Shutter Camera
4G LTE With a better radio (better reception, better battery)
Battery life of a moto phone. with a 1900 mAH battery
Unlocked Bootloader
No Bloatware
Timely updates and bugfixes, not like the 2 small updates, maybe a big one then forget the device
3mp ffc camera that can be used full quality
Unlocked Bootloader
I just pretty much describes the Nexus Prime.
Bring on the Nexus
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Seriously that unlocked bootloader is the most important thing a phone can have, no amount of specs will make me buy a phone if I can't hack the **** out of it.

[Discussion] What would be your ultimate smartphone? i.e, design a handset using only

So folks, my first topic
As the title say's, design your ultimate handset...using hardware available to date..
Go....
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I prefer a smart phone which will never come on earth.
Android version : 12.3.4 (apple cake)
Inbuilt memory : 32 gb
Rom : 10 gb
Camera: 20mp primary , 5 mp secondary.
For now its enough, later i demand for much more(just kidding).
Goog thread i say:thumbup:

basically the GS4 but a 4k screen (will have to be closer to 5" then) with S pen and 8 GB of ram plus 128 gb built in micro sd micro hdmi and mhl wireless charging dual band wifi plus a qwerty, a huge ass battery maybe 10000mah, some awesome speakers, a 3DS type glassesless 3d display 2 awesome cameras on the back (galaxy camera, lumina 920, etc), 2 normal (for back) cameras on the front 8/16 mp, and ruggedized. It'd be brick like but awesome
actually maybe make a version with only 5000mah and no keyboard for slimmer profile

The design of a HTC One, but a 15mpx back camera, 8mpx front camera, 64gb internal memory and i've heard about MeRam, wich can reach 128gb, it will be really amazing, and I think it's a future not so far!
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Really far from thinking!

University of Pi said:
basically the GS4 but a 4k screen (will have to be closer to 5" then) with S pen and 8 GB of ram plus 128 gb built in micro sd micro hdmi and mhl wireless charging dual band wifi plus a qwerty, a huge ass battery maybe 10000mah, some awesome speakers, a 3DS type glassesless 3d display 2 awesome cameras on the back (galaxy camera, lumina 920, etc), 2 normal (for back) cameras on the front 8/16 mp, and ruggedized. It'd be brick like but awesome
actually maybe make a version with only 5000mah and no keyboard for slimmer profile
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I'm sorry but are you daft?
It already is 5", and it can already handle 4k media, but having it on a 5" is completely useless... in fact even the 1080p display is an overkill.
8gb RAM for what, exactly?
10'000 mAh battery would be bloody fantastic though
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I thought the gs4 was slightly under 5" whereas the world's smallest 4k display was slightly over, also not thinking to straight size wise
The 8gb of ram would be nice to have for having apps open, I find my transformer can get bogged down pretty quickly with only 1gb and stuffs starting to come with 2gb so to future proof instead of the 4 next year or 2015 go for the 8 of 2016/2017
Actually it'd be much more useful for running the arm based versions of desktop oses
1080p isn't overkill at 5" it's just not really worth it. You can notice the difference between 1080p and 720p maybe even between 1080p and 900p but except some people with penile displays no one is complaining about 720p. The idea is that now you could get some giant magnifying thing to turn it into a 4k tablet sans touch
And I just realized I forgot a pico projector
And while I'm at it let's through in some laser pointers (one of each color currently available) along the top on the side of the ir blasrer
Does it have a barometer? Also let's add a retractable antenna. Also radio and TV tuners wireless charging and let's through in a full sized usb port and make that mini hdmi full size
The real reason for 4k over 1080p is the 3d
Also it needs to be capable of being really bright, and have 2 rear and 1 front led camera flashes along with satellite phone capabilities plus all band gsm, lte, and cdma built in
Maybe throw in some emp protection like all offline parts being shielded in an internal Faraday cage
All the usbs have to be 3.0 of course maybe add a mini usb for compatibility with other chargers. Actually add a proprietary 100pin connector that supports accessories like an apple 30 pin or lightning bolt adapter or an ethernet port or a tazer or a hand crank charger or basically anything you could ever use or want plugged into your cell phone. Also it should charge through motion like the ecodrive watches and through heat like being in your pockwt
Also have them use parts designed to be able to be replaced or upgraded (still soldered for space reasons)
Also let's add 2 more audio jacks and make all 3 capable of being headphones & mic, mic, line in, line out, guitar amp and combined surround sound audio
At thus point this thing pry cost near the millions so let's add a Kingston lock port
Oh and the keyboard is red back lit
Also this needs a military grade radio and it's now a super classified cia device thread closed
Oh and the screen has that fluid tactile thing that's been prototyped, where the screen can actually form bumps and buttons and stuff
I almost want to add some wheels and a retractable rotor and make it capable of driving and flying back to you if lost but that's probably a 100pin add on
Also give this thing a super vibrator like in the it crowd but capable of being set much lower
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The 'OrangePhone'
Here's mine:
Nvidia Tegra 3 Processor
1GB RAM
4.7" 1080p Super AmoLED Screen with Gorilla Glass
Android 4.2 (Stock)
12MP Back Camera with 1080p video
2MP Front Camera with 480p video
WiFi, Bluetooth, NFC, Notification Light, GPS
And a design like a Nexus 4!

e-ink and battery
The best will be smartphone with 2 screen - 1 standard and second e-ink. Reading e-books on classic lcd is very tiring and battery killer. All simple things I could do on e-ink.
And when will be made baterry that can work 2 weeks without charge? Battery is weak link of smartphones...

Any Jelly bean android phone with a battery life of 4 or more days

A phone with a 4 inch screen, its outside would be made by carbon fiber. It would have 4 cores, 2 ghz, 6gb ram, dual boot(android and windows pc version)... It would be controlled by mind u wouldnt have to touch it. It would have 200 mpixels as the 1st camera and 20 on the secondary. Battery would last for about a week with hard core gaming, and it would be even tougher than nokia 3310

i must be aware of not falling asleep reading these features. I want a fullHD mirasol display with neonode touchsceen and fullHD microvision laserprjector...and of course open source...sw is enough

A phone that walks itself to the electric point, gets itself plugged in and charged when battery is low..

A nexus phone made by HTC,with sound boost speakers, 5 ultrapixels camera(bigger than 4 both in resolution and size),removable battery,64gb option,sd card slot,3 buttons layout,same screen as on htc one,a 4000mah battery
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Nexus phone built by HTC is the ultimate combination, camera lens from sony 8mpixels, tegra 3 processor
and the most important at least 4 days battery life!!

Combining all the smartfone present in the world

tejkkarani said:
Combining all the smartfone present in the world
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Don't think that would be very portable
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Ultimate is something like the last one.
Since releasing of smartphone is not ultimate.
So if there any last smartphone(no chance)then that would be my ultimate Smartphone(no chance)

Something like:
4.8 inch screen
battery life for heavily use - 16 hours!!!!
6GB RAM - the more RAM is better
1080P resolution with 500 PPI
Included FM radio
Great audio quality!!!!!
Great photos quality!
Quad Cores and lighting fast performance!

For now u have smartphone of these features,but no ram of "16 GB"

What would be your perfect Android smartphone?

Mine would be the Xperia Z, with the serial number on the bottom and bottom of the back removed, the volume rockers on the left side.
The LED notification light should be a wide bar on the bottom middle like on the Xperia ZL to keep it symmetrical,
It should have Samsung Galaxy S4's 5" Super Amoled display with it's spectacular viewing angles and saturated colors and under that, the 3 soft keys and the glass protecting the front and back should be Gorilla Glass 3
It sould also have the Octo-core processor of the international Galaxy S4 and it should also have the Xperia Tablet Z's double tap to wake feature since it has no physical buttons on the front.
It should have the Xperia Z's 13.1MP camera, but it should also be able to take 16:9 pictures in maximum quality, and a front facing camera that can shoot 3MP pictures and 1080p video for Skype and other video chatting equivalents.
It's available in 16, 32 and 64GB, and that memory is ALL available, and not 25% for software.
The plastic hexoskeleton that keeps the glass front and back together should be made of aluminium instead.
It should come pre-rooted with Android 4.2.2 with the latest build of ClockworkMod Recovery pre-installed and HTC Sense, TouchWiz or Xperia UI should be optional in both phone or phablet UI.
And last of all it should have a 3100 mAh non-removable battery with the possibility of wireless charging.
I'd pay anything for a phone like that!
Now tell me what your ideal phone would be.

gFrenken97 said:
Mine would be the Xperia Z, with the serial number on the bottom and bottom of the back removed, the volume rockers on the left side.
The LED notification light should be a wide bar on the bottom middle like on the Xperia ZL to keep it symmetrical,
It should have Samsung Galaxy S4's 5" Super Amoled display with it's spectacular viewing angles and saturated colors and under that, the 3 soft keys and the glass protecting the front and back should be Gorilla Glass 3
It sould also have the Octo-core processor of the international Galaxy S4 and it should also have the Xperia Tablet Z's double tap to wake feature since it has no physical buttons on the front.
It should have the Xperia Z's 13.1MP camera, but it should also be able to take 16:9 pictures in maximum quality, and a front facing camera that can shoot 3MP pictures and 1080p video for Skype and other video chatting equivalents.
It's available in 16, 32 and 64GB, and that memory is ALL available, and not 25% for software.
The plastic hexoskeleton that keeps the glass front and back together should be made of aluminium instead.
It should come pre-rooted with Android 4.2.2 with the latest build of ClockworkMod Recovery pre-installed and HTC Sense, TouchWiz or Xperia UI should be optional in both phone or phablet UI.
And last of all it should have a 3100 mAh non-removable battery with the possibility of wireless charging.
I'd pay anything for a phone like that!
Now tell me what your ideal phone would be.
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Mine would be HTC one...
Which is far better than Xperia z
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kantry123 said:
Mine would be HTC one...
Which is far better than Xperia z
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No reasons, no points, no arguments .. just better.

For someone like me who keeps his tablet and phone functions to 2 separate devices, the Sony Xperia ZR for me is the perfect phone.
- it's beautiful physically, no cheap plastic like Samsung or trying too hard to be chic like Huawei. And it's not just another rectangular block of plastic. From afar, you can tell it's an Xperia, not a Samsung or Apple unit. Makes me stand slightly apart from the me-too crowd going ga-ga over the latest Galaxy or iPhone.
- waterproof up to 1.5m underwater, so you don't need to worry about the occasional spill or sweat in your pocket. Heck, Sony's ad for it even advertises shooting videos underwater.
- the 4.6" screen is big enough for viewing most texts/tweets/chat apps and still is handy enough for one-handed operation.
- 13mp camera! (are you listening, HTC? What's with a lame 4-mp camera on your top-shelf model? No wonder even your chief technology officer resigned!)
- 2gb RAM. Keeping abreast with the latest Samsung and even ahead of the iPhone 5's 1gb-RAM. If you like flashing things and loading up on apps, 2gb RAM is a godsend!
*Now for the fantasy phone: just take the Xperia ZR, bump the battery up to 3,000mAh, at the same time keeping the phone thickness to around 10mm
~put at least a 2-mp front cam on it
~at least 32gb internal mem, with expandable microSD up to 128gb
~put in air gestures so one-handed operation would be even more heavenly
~Corning Glass 3 shatter-proof glass

Borat38 said:
For someone like me who keeps his tablet and phone functions to 2 separate devices, the Sony Xperia ZR for me is the perfect phone.
- it's beautiful physically, no cheap plastic like Samsung or trying too hard to be chic like Huawei. And it's not just another rectangular block of plastic. From afar, you can tell it's an Xperia, not a Samsung or Apple unit. Makes me stand slightly apart from the me-too crowd going ga-ga over the latest Galaxy or iPhone.
- waterproof up to 1.5m underwater, so you don't need to worry about the occasional spill or sweat in your pocket. Heck, Sony's ad for it even advertises shooting videos underwater.
- the 4.6" screen is big enough for viewing most texts/tweets/chat apps and still is handy enough for one-handed operation.
- 13mp camera! (are you listening, HTC? What's with a lame 4-mp camera on your top-shelf model? No wonder even your chief technology officer resigned!)
- 2mb RAM. Keeping abreast with the latest Samsung and even ahead of the iPhone 5's 1mb-RAM. If you like flashing things and loading up on apps, 2mb RAM is a godsend!
*Now for the fantasy phone: just take the Xperia ZR, bump the battery up to 3,000mAh, at the same time keeping the phone thickness to around 10mm
~put at least a 2-mp front cam on it
~at least 32gb internal mem, with expandable microSD up to 128gb
~put in air gestures so one-handed operation would be even more heavenly
~Corning Glass 3 shatter-proof glass
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HTC was probably nearing the deadline and out of panic they slapped a 4MP camera on it and thought of a name that idiots would love to brag about xD
And BTW, 2MB RAM? I prefer 2000MB RAM
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gFrenken97 said:
HTC was probably nearing the deadline and out of panic they slapped a 4MP camera on it and thought of a name that idiots would love to brag about xD
And BTW, 2MB RAM? I prefer 2000MB RAM
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buddy...not to be offensive but htc one doesn't have 4mp its 4up
its has no match with others
its not 4 mega pixel
its 4ultra pixel
make sure u read the specs corectly...!
its the most advanced camera that can surely compete 13mp camera...
its the best..!

kantry123 said:
buddy...not to be offensive but htc one doesn't have 4mp its 4up
its has no match with others
its not 4 mega pixel
its 4ultra pixel
make sure u read the specs corectly...!
its the most advanced camera that can surely compete 13mp camera...
its the best..!
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It's still 4MP with a fancier name, look up a comparison video, it looks like crap even compared to and old Galaxy SII.
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My heart perfect Android smartphones
■OS: Android 4.2.2
■CPU: quad core
■RAM: 1 GB
■ROM: 8 GB
■12 MP camera, full HD video recording, 8 MP front camera
■Battery: 3000 mAh
The most important point: the price below $ 200

I think I will agree with Xperia Z as the best smartphone for me. The only thing I'd add to it is a more powerful battery.

Augustine02 said:
My heart perfect Android smartphones
■OS: Android 4.2.2
■CPU: quad core
■RAM: 1 GB
■ROM: 8 GB
■12 MP camera, full HD video recording, 8 MP front camera
■Battery: 3000 mAh
The most important point: the price below $ 200
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Why 1GB if RAM? 2 gigs at least for me
Also "quad core" is kinda vague. I'm thinking a snapdragon 800 would do the trick.
On a side note, there are actually a ton of phones that meet your criteria and then some (1080p screen anybody?) all for around $200. The catch? They're China knockoffs and have the mt6589 processor which, while it is quad core, is nowhere near as powerful as even a s4 pro, which is previous gen itself.
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nexus 4 is almost perfect
-needs better camera, way better, not in megapixels but sharper and less noise
-sd
-bigger screen since the nav bar takes lot of space
-better sound quaility, speaker, design
-better cooling,
-no stupid glass easy to break

Xperia Z would be my perfect handheld
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maurocds said:
nexus 4 is almost perfect
-needs better camera, way better, not in megapixels but sharper and less noise
-sd
-bigger screen since the nav bar takes lot of space
-better sound quaility, speaker, design
-better cooling,
-no stupid glass easy to break
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Doesn't sound like almost perfect to me

An iPhone 5 running JB 4.2 64gig
Or
HTC one running Sense 4.5 instead of sense 5 / 64 gig
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Blue3125 said:
An iPhone 5 running JB 4.2 64gig
Or
HTC one running Sense 4.5 instead of sense 5 / 64 gig
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iPhone? Seriously .. ?
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Xperia Z body
HTC One Speakers
Galaxy S4 screen
Stock Android (With Xperia Z lockscreen. It's just so beautiful looking.)
:laugh:

I need a potato which has a Battery capacity that can run for 1 week on a single charge :what:
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gFrenken97 said:
Doesn't sound like almost perfect to me
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sure, n4 has flaws but notice how i did not say anything about software
i prefer n4 flaws all the way over other phones with lag on the OS, hell no, i can´t stand lag and bloat, if i wanted lag i would buy another nokia, the true king of lag, non nexus android are just amateurs in lag