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Removing preloaded stuff???

Anyone know how? I don't need these trial games.
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The only way to remove those apps which are locked down by the carrier is to root your phone (whenever that comes out), and use titanium to remove/disable the apps.

HeavyComponent said:
Anyone know how? I don't need these trial games.
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Temp root it with visionary (search market) and use this method to disable apps:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/10/15/how-to-disable-system-apps-on-devices-with-nand-protection/
It won't delete the apk but will disable it from running and clogging up resources. They also won't show up anymore in the launcher. I've temp rooted my mytouch 4g just fine using visionary just haven't gotten around to run all the scripts to remove all the bloatware yet.

Install Visionary for temp root, then install Titanium Backup, click problems and say yes to download Busybox. After that click backup/restore and from there you can remove any app PERMANTLY! Hope this helps =)

Don't they just reappear the moment you reboot?
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Confirmed
c_licious said:
Temp root it with visionary (search market) and use this method to disable apps:
URL ABOVE (can't post it yet)
It won't delete the apk but will disable it from running and clogging up resources. They also won't show up anymore in the launcher. I've temp rooted my mytouch 4g just fine using visionary just haven't gotten around to run all the scripts to remove all the bloatware yet.
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I used this method this morning, restarted and the games are NOT in the loader. It does work for that purpose. Just confirming for you

Thanks for the reply guys. I will try the methods.
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Snuggl3s said:
Install Visionary for temp root, then install Titanium Backup, click problems and say yes to download Busybox. After that click backup/restore and from there you can remove any app PERMANTLY! Hope this helps =)
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Worked with no problems! Thanks!
EDIT: Never mind! Everything came back after a reboot.
I'll try the other method and report back. Thanks anyway.
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HeavyComponent said:
Worked with no problems! Thanks!
EDIT: Never mind! Everything came back after a reboot.
I'll try the other method and report back. Thanks anyway.
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You actually REMOVED the app and it came back? Oh man that's some crazy lockdown.
It's nuts that the phones are locked down now. The only people who will "accidentally" break them are people who know what they're doing (and those who are willing to take a risk). I can't believe HTC/T-Mo when they say this is a preventative measure. Which smart person will boot up the phone while holding the vol down key and wipe their phone? They'll get scared and pull the battery!

allen099 said:
I can't believe HTC/T-Mo when they say this is a preventative measure.
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If this is really the way it's going to be, then they must have had a business case for taking those measures. These companies are out to make money, not to make toys for the homebrew community.
My guess is that they were getting more returns/exchanges than they were comfortable with. I mean, let's be honest here. How many of us know folks who have returned a bricked device saying "it just stopped working?" I personally know people who have tried rooting/moding phones without the least bit of knowledge of how it all works. I know because I'm the one getting calls to help out...
When that **** happens, TMO ends up in a difficult position. They're not going to call their customers liars, and they can't refuse to exchange the phone.
I wish they would give people an option to "buy" root. You pay $25 for an unlock, and your warranty is immediately and automatically voided. That way, only people who know what they're doing will sign up for it.

timbo1083 said:
I used this method this morning, restarted and the games are NOT in the loader. It does work for that purpose. Just confirming for you
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Can you confirm that you did a full reboot after this removal method (vs just down to a 'quick' reboot) and that they stayed gone?

Why do you guys want to completely remove something? Why not just disable it? Same effect.... You will never need more space in /system/app since you can't even write to that and if you disable it - it's gone from the launcher and does not hog memory/cpu. And you can re-enable it in case you want to use it again.
Look here for directions (thanks to Paul O'Brien)

borodin1 said:
Why do you guys want to completely remove something? Why not just disable it? Same effect.... You will never need more space in /system/app since you can't even write to that and if you disable it - it's gone from the launcher and does not hog memory/cpu. And you can re-enable it in case you want to use it again.
Look here for directions (thanks to Paul O'Brien)
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Thanks! I'll try it at work.
EDIT: It didn't work.
myTouch4G (Glacier)

I hear ya on the apps. I paid full price for this device and I think Tmo should give me the ability to root to remove them since I'm not under contract.
They got their money, let me do what I want with it now.
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HeavyComponent said:
Thanks! I'll try it at work.
EDIT: It didn't work.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
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How did it not work? I don't have the phone myself but there's absolutely no reason for me to believe it wouldn't work

borodin1 said:
How did it not work? I don't have the phone myself but there's absolutely no reason for me to believe it wouldn't work
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I have no idea why it didn't work. I did exactly what the instruction said. Nothing changed, I'm assuming it doesn't work for the myTouch4G.
myTouch4G (Glacier)

Let me clear this up for everyone. What the OP (or 2nd 3rd post?) suggested does not work permanently. I have both a G2 and a myTouch 4G, they have the exact same read-only system memory.
The major difference between the G2 and the myTouch 4G, and why the OP thinks this works, is because the myTouch has fast boot. With this enabled (and it was on mine by default) you can turn "off" the phone and turn it back on without loosing root, or in this case, having apps magically reappear.
However, if you actually REALLY turn OFF the phone, either by disabling fast boot or simply removing your battery, they are going to come right back. The only permanent solution is to disable them, and you can find Paul's post in the G2 forums about how to do that using a terminal with root access.

RealityDesign said:
Let me clear this up for everyone. What the OP (or 2nd 3rd post?) suggested does not work permanently. I have both a G2 and a myTouch 4G, they have the exact same read-only system memory.
The major difference between the G2 and the myTouch 4G, and why the OP thinks this works, is because the myTouch has fast boot. With this enabled (and it was on mine by default) you can turn "off" the phone and turn it back on without loosing root, or in this case, having apps magically reappear.
However, if you actually REALLY turn OFF the phone, either by disabling fast boot or simply removing your battery, they are going to come right back. The only permanent solution is to disable them, and you can find Paul's post in the G2 forums about how to do that using a terminal with root access.
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I used Paul's guide on my myTouch and it didn't work. I did a complete reboot afterwards and nothing changed. I still had everything I disabled.
myTouch4G (Glacier)

Yes. Multiple times now. I cannot select any preloaded
because they arent even option now. Used vision, advanced shell. Works great.
EDIT: Sorry. Disabled. Not removed.
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HeavyComponent said:
I used Paul's guide on my myTouch and it didn't work. I did a complete reboot afterwards and nothing changed. I still had everything I disabled.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
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I just did this to mine on a few apps and it worked for me, even after a restart.
Be sure to use the correct capatalization when typing out the commands. If it still doesnt work, type your commands in here exactly.

Themes and applications for Inspire 4G

Any inspiration? Hah, get it...play on words =D.

Phone will be in hand on Feb 13th when it comes out.... get ready..

Phone in hand now eh. We shall have to see.
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jermean said:
Phone in hand now eh. We shall have to see.
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I unfortunately have no way to get one... but I think I can make it a few more days.

i have one and its damn nice

The envy is setting in, at least until tomorrow morning.

Picked one up this morning. This is my first Android based phone, so it will take some getting used to. Other than that, the phone's build quality is exceptional.
P.S. - I noticed there is no way to see raw files and folders, I'm assuming there is an app for that.

///M Class said:
Picked one up this morning. This is my first Android based phone, so it will take some getting used to. Other than that, the phone's build quality is exceptional.
P.S. - I noticed there is no way to see raw files and folders, I'm assuming there is an app for that.
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Use Linda File Manager or Astro, if you're rooted use Root Explorer.
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I have phone envy. I am counting down the hours till i get mine tomorrow at the ATT Store.. i feel like such a freaking apple fanboy.. ugh! lol

Looking to get this phone!!
Get Fruit Ninja! Really addicting on a big screen!

///M Class said:
Picked one up this morning. This is my first Android based phone, so it will take some getting used to. Other than that, the phone's build quality is exceptional.
P.S. - I noticed there is no way to see raw files and folders, I'm assuming there is an app for that.
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do a market search for ASTRO or ROOT EXPLORER, you can see the files....you might need root for certain areas.

I fawkin' love my Inspire! I got it yesterday (it was time for an upgrade from the HTC Tilt 2). NIIIIIIIIIICE! So, now I'm trying to see what I can do with it.

ya just got mine friday didnt think fedex was ever going to get here i love this phone but still like my captivate and focus

HTC Official Skins
I'm having trouble logging into HTC Sense so was wondering if any could post the official HTC skins downloadable from HTC (Slate, Black Board, HTC, etc.). FYI, xda search is temporarily unavailable at the moment.
Edit: I just extracted the APK from the stock zip. If there are more than three stock HTC skins, please post. THX.

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I'm having trouble logging into HTC Sense so was wondering if any could post the official HTC skins downloadable from HTC (Slate, Black Board, HTC, etc.). FYI, xda search is temporarily unavailable at the moment.
Edit: I just extracted the APK from the stock zip. If there are more than three stock HTC skins, please post. THX.
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HTC's Sense servers have apparently been very problematic lately.

dmacrye said:
HTC's Sense servers have apparently been very problematic lately.
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FYI, here are two more that I just downloaded once the servers were back up. They are stock HTC skins unmodified.

Wow, AT&T blocks non market apps?

That is so pathetic. Just another reason to hate that company.
Anyway...my friend just got an inspire and is new to android. I'm just helping with the phone (I have a verizon android phone) and realized that AT&T finds someway to screw with consumers again. So, is there a way to get around this and install non market apps?

brian85 said:
That is so pathetic. Just another reason to hate that company.
Anyway...my friend just got an inspire and is new to android. I'm just helping with the phone (I have a verizon android phone) and realized that AT&T finds someway to screw with consumers again. So, is there a way to get around this and install non market apps?
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You can use sideload wonder machine http://forum.androidcentral.com/android-sideload-wonder-machine/
Or root the phone and load a custom ROM that has non market apps enabled

the sideload wonder machine method is sipmple the only drawback is that the apps wont receive updates like they would from the market, if I'm not mistaken.

Also if I remember correctly if the app is to big for side load wonder machine, you can use adb push. There are always work arounds.

brian85 said:
That is so pathetic. Just another reason to hate that company.
Anyway...my friend just got an inspire and is new to android. I'm just helping with the phone (I have a verizon android phone) and realized that AT&T finds someway to screw with consumers again. So, is there a way to get around this and install non market apps?
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That's why it's such a sweet feeling when you uninstall their application through TiBu........

You can also consider rooting the device. I did mine with no issues at all. It's VERY easy, just time consuming. From start to finish, took me about 35 minutes. I already had EVERYTHING I needed to do this though, including the ROM I wanted.

tribalartgod said:
You can also consider rooting the device. I did mine with no issues at all. It's VERY easy, just time consuming. From start to finish, took me about 35 minutes. I already had EVERYTHING I needed to do this though, including the ROM I wanted.
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Congratulations on finally getting it man.

Roland_D said:
That's why it's such a sweet feeling when you uninstall their application through TiBu........
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Indeed. Buh-bye bloat.
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I am interested to know what apps are good that aren't on the marketplace. I would like to find some other cool stuff I can put on this phone. I put swype on and that was fun to side load. Would like to do some other stuff. Inform me please.
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You want good go to Amazon App store, in the past few days I got a full version of Shazam and then SoundHound. Both have full unlimited use with no expiration, also if you change rom's you can redownload them from your account for as long as you have the account. They give away a full paid app everyday on there.

MatUK.8 said:
I am interested to know what apps are good that aren't on the marketplace. I would like to find some other cool stuff I can put on this phone. I put swype on and that was fun to side load. Would like to do some other stuff. Inform me please.
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All the Gameloft games for starters.
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Firewalls?!!!

Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
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MaxReality said:
Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
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i all ready have a flashable add-on but it wont work till we get custom recovery and to replace the file your self you still need root becuase its in the system folder

Why do you use Droidwall if I may ask?
I have always seen it referred to as a placebo if anything.

Now people are seeing why I'm not buying the Sensation till it's cracked and rooted.
Android converts via the HD2 have all been using a rooted form of Android and never knew what life was like in the "locked down" world. I'm an Android convert via the HD2 myself, and knew complaints of this sort would be coming.
DroidWall is a great means to keep apps from eating data without knowing. Also a good means to keep Android from phoning home if that is of any concern to a user.

ashasaur said:
Why do you use Droidwall if I may ask?
I have always seen it referred to as a placebo if anything.
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Mdeejays rom ate all my data allowance in standby on my HD2. Droidwall stopped this happening, blocking everything except the apps you want to use data.
Although changing to Boyppc rom, the data usage wasnt half as much. Hmm?
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MaxReality said:
Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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APNDroid with the widget on your home screen stops 3G data connection.
Adfree for removing ads but its for rooted only.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Now people are seeing why I'm not buying the Sensation till it's cracked and rooted.
Android converts via the HD2 have all been using a rooted form of Android and never knew what life was like in the "locked down" world. I'm an Android convert via the HD2 myself, and knew complaints of this sort would be coming.
DroidWall is a great means to keep apps from eating data without knowing. Also a good means to keep Android from phoning home if that is of any concern to a user.
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I agree. But it was upgrade time and having a 1080p camcorder enticed me to buy. Once you get over it being locked down, for now, it really is a joy to use. Every little niggle the HD2 had is gone. But yeah, rom wise, Boyppc rom makes HD2 a perfectly capable handset.
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MaxReality said:
I agree. But it was upgrade time and having a 1080p camcorder enticed me to buy. Once you get over it being locked down, for now, it really is a joy to use. Every little niggle the HD2 had is gone. But yeah, rom wise, Boyppc rom makes HD2 a perfectly capable handset.
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Nope, I won't be getting over it. I won't be buying the Sensation till it's unlocked.
My HD2 with the latest NexusHD2-Gingerbread has zero issues, none.
So no way I'm taking a step backward to lockdown, never.
I use several apps that require root. And I'm also not buying something I can't keep custom ROMs on.
Enjoy yours, but I'll pass if it's not unlocked.
These devices now cost way too much to compromise.

htc location

Are we going to see HTC location. For the sensation?

don't understand what u mean... because I have it on sensation

mamarda said:
don't understand what u mean... because I have it on sensation
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Sadly, it's not included on the T-Mobile Sensation in the US.
Whether we can get it later once root is available remains to be seen.

Tmobile US took it out. Read this thread to see what else they took out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125913

I read some were that htc location is only availible in Europe at the moment but should be arriving in the us sometime around october. I hope this is true I saw the htc sense demo of what locations can do I think its awsome but for now I guess Google maps can do

I have Asian version and it has location.

I signed into the htc hub and installed/enabled it. I just can't seem to find the website that allows me to track it.
edit: Nevermind. Went to htcsense.com logged in, and it's working.
edit2: Awesome, I tried the lock/unlock feature. Very cool. It's nice to have this semi-bundled.
edit3: It's called phone finder, and once installed you turn it on and off under settings>location

How I just looked for it and its not there in the hub

Is there any way to install the European version of the ROM or does that require the phone to be rooted?

Paging Dr B said:
I signed into the htc hub and installed/enabled it. I just can't seem to find the website that allows me to track it.
edit: Nevermind. Went to htcsense.com logged in, and it's working.
edit2: Awesome, I tried the lock/unlock feature. Very cool. It's nice to have this semi-bundled.
edit3: It's called phone finder, and once installed you turn it on and off under settings>location
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I was thinking the OP was referring to the GPS app called Locations that's bundled on Euro Sensations. You seem to be talking about a service to locate your phone. Not the same.

I'm not sure you want it my Voda Uk model has it but means if I want to ba able to use the navigate link in appointments I have to pay for mavigation software or copy and paste into Maps as you CANNOT change the default app used.
HTC have confirmed this to me so you would need to be able to root the phone to change this.
GET YOUR FINGER OUT HTC
really annoyed at them swapping pay material for free material and removing any ability to change it back.
It is genuinely making me think twice about getting a HTC next if this is the direction they are going in.