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Hello,
I'm seriously doubting what phone i should buy, and therefore i want to ask if any of you have some advantages or disadvantages and some things that are just for taste so i can get a good idea of what the advantages and disadvantages are of the phones and just the things people like or hate about it?
My main points are ofcourse The android versions and the speed of the phones and if they are strong devices so if they don't break easily.
Thnx in advance!
The X10 is the weakest of the three handsets you've listed.
It's only a 65k LCD screen and it has no multi-touch.
Obviously, a part of that is due to the version of Android it's running but it's unclear whether any of that will improve when (or indeed, given it's Sony Ericsson we're talking about, if) they get round releasing an upgrade.
Aside from that, as nice as the Timescape app is on the X10, it just doesn't match Sense on the Desire.
The only point the X10 has in it's favour is that it's an 8MP camera but in my first-hand experience it was very, very poor even in good light. SE have said they will be adding HD video recording by way of a software upgrade but that won't be until the end of the year at best (and, once again, this being SE there is a history of taking missing deadlines by months, almost years).
As for the Nexus One, personally I see no advantage ot it over the Desire but, equally, it's not really any worse either, so I suppose it's all down to price where you are.
Whichever one you go for, they're both that bit better than the SE.
It may also be worth considering the Samsung Galaxy S with it's 5MP HD video (but no flash!?!) camera, 1GHz 'Hummingbird' CPU and 4" WVGA superAMOLED screen (basically all the advantages of AMOLED but you can use it in sunlight).
That or the up-coming Motorola XT720 which will offer an 8MP HD recording camera with a proper Xenon flash as well as HDMI-out, along with a decent all-round spec inclduing a 720MHz OMAP 3430 CPU, 512MB of RAM and a 3.7" 480x854 multi-touch LCD screen.
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The X10 is the weakest of the three handsets you've listed.
It's only a 65k LCD screen and it has no multi-touch.
Obviously, a part of that is due to the version of Android it's running but it's unclear whether any of that will improve when (or indeed, given it's Sony Ericsson we're talking about, if) they get round releasing an upgrade.
Aside from that, as nice as the Timescape app is on the X10, it just doesn't match Sense on the Desire.
The only point the X10 has in it's favour is that it's an 8MP camera but in my first-hand experience it was very, very poor even in good light. SE have said they will be adding HD video recording by way of a software upgrade but that won't be until the end of the year at best (and, once again, this being SE there is a history of taking missing deadlines by months, almost years).
As for the Nexus One, personally I see no advantage ot it over the Desire but, equally, it's not really any worse either, so I suppose it's all down to price where you are.
Whichever one you go for, they're both that bit better than the SE.
It may also be worth considering the Samsung Galaxy S with it's 5MP HD video (but no flash!?!) camera, 1GHz 'Hummingbird' CPU and 4" WVGA superAMOLED screen (basically all the advantages of AMOLED but you can use it in sunlight).
That or the up-coming Motorola XT720 which will offer an 8MP HD recording camera with a proper Xenon flash as well as HDMI-out, along with a decent all-round spec inclduing a 720MHz OMAP 3430 CPU, 512MB of RAM and a 3.7" 480x854 multi-touch LCD screen.
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Thnx for your reply!
I will have a look at those phones you mentioned! I currently possess the HTC Touch HD (Hate WinMo) and i find the screen a bit to small but the touchkeys are really nice! So i'm looking for a phone that has quite a large screen like the Evo 4G with Android. I like the X10 because of the larger screen and Android but i'm already rethinking buying that device. Something like the HTC HD2 would be really nice only with android operating on it! Which seems to me would be the Evo 4G but i cannot buy that phone since i live in the netherlands.
Do you know some upcoming devices or devices out now that i might like?
Thnx for your help!
Right, well, the Touch HD has a 3.8" screen so if you want larger than rules out the Desire/Nexus One and the Motorola XT720 as they're all 3.7".
The Samsung I mentioned has a 4" screen, so it'll be a bit bigger than the Touch HD's but you're talking 5mm difference diagonally, which isn't exactly huge. That said, if you were considering the X10 then the Galaxy S is the same size of screen.
Other than that, there's the Dell Streak but it's a 5" screen so it's a whole order of magnitude larger than the likes of the HD2/Evo 4G.
Moving on from phones that are already or about to go on sale, there's the on-going rumours of the Motorola Shadow/Droid Xtreme which is supposed to have a screen between 4.1 and 4.3" but it's very much a rumour and if it's anything like the last Droid, it'll be released in the US first and the rest of the world a fair while later.
And you won't even be able to buy it from the US to get it sooner because it's almost guaranteed that it'll be a CDMA handset on Verizon.
Looking at the handsets that GSMArena lists as running Android and having a screen larger than 4", apart from the ones I've mentioned there's the leaked Dell Thunder which will be a 4.1" but there's no confirmation of when or where it's going on sale; the Samsung 7" tablet which isn't really designed to be a phone at all; and some handset from a brand called 'i-mobile' that I've never even heard of.
Any Wish Lists for what the Sidekick 4G LX (I am guesstimating the new name of the Next Generation model) should have??
My list:
* A bigger screen (closer to 4 inches).
* Full Unicode Support, including manual entry of symbols (like Alt+#### on PCs and similar to older Sidekicks). Support for a wider array of symbols via the Symbols key (customizable??).
* More built-in memory.
* LED lights that are accessible to a wider array of apps (not just the built-in ones).
* Smiley Button that works in ALL apps, not just the built-in Texting app
* If you have to add bloatware (like DriveSmart) allow it to be easily uninstalled.
*Allow customizable color themes.
*provide a better font where it is clear the difference between l (lower L) I and 1 (like the older sidekicks did)
Any others you want to add to the list??
I'd be fine with retaining the screen we have now, though stretching it out to the borders of the case does sound nice. The bigger priorities for me would be to add a faster CPU, some extra memory, and get ICS. An HDMI output would be a nice bonus, but definitely not a requirement.
Despite what HTC says, I don't want my cell phone to be the thickness of a playing card. I quite like the chunky shape of the Sidekick and would much much much much much much much much much much much rather have that than an angular and awkward iPhone 4-shaped phone with shorter battery life. Really thin phones are weird to hold, and the battery life is short enough as it is with our chunky battery.
is it confirmed there making one? id like a bigger screen and a dual core, but thats about all.
Nothing specific other than saying they are not retiring the brand and hope to release a new version in the future.
I'd possibly be going on the crazy end of the spectrum for a great sidekick 4g/5g/lte whatev
5" screen with a keyboard that slides out (similar to the OQO model 2) with a full qwerty like the sidekick but with aswell a mouse button.
REAL GORILLA GLASS!!
on the face of the device would be captive touch buttons similar to ones found on the captivate/vibrant
A Texas instrument based cpu dual core preferably (TI because they are more friendly with source code)
1gb of ram
8gb internal memory aswell as a microSD slot
petaband radio similar to the one in the galaxy note so it will work just about anywyere with gsm
HDMI output
Sound chipset that has background filtering
ICS with as little reskinning as possible
probably will never happen but a mad man can dream can't he?
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on the face of the device would be captive touch buttons similar to ones found on the captivate/vibrant
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Why? The reason I own the SK4G is that it is the only phone besides the G1 with a 5-row keyboard and Hard-buttons. Making the hard-buttons capacitive is a deal-breaker for me! At least the Back button must be clicky hardware, not "don't know if I pressed it or not" and "sometimes press it by mistake" capacitive soft-buttons).
If this phone had updated processor/memory, a better camera with flash (or awesome low-light performance), and a brighter edge-to-edge high-res screen, it would be perfect. NFC and HDMI-out would be a bonus.
I really like the design on this device(slightly tilted screen, physical buttons, GREAT keyboard), so I wouldn't mind if they continued this train of thought. But yeah, more RAM would be a must, to hopefully prevent the freezing and rebooting problems. And for me, a 3.7 in. screen would be cool, and a better camera. And also, improve the trackpad.
I know what we need. Replace the utterly useless micro optical trackpad! Give us a ball, a nub, a much bigger optical trackpad, ANYTHING!
Also, an inverted T set of arrow keys in the keyboard would be spectacular.
TI OMAP Processor
2GB RAM
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Android 4.0.4
4" Screen Gorilla Glass
Slide-out Keyboard
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TI OMAP Processor
2GB RAM
16GB/32GB Variants
Android 4.0.4
4" Screen Gorilla Glass
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sounds expensive
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sounds expensive
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Sounds like the S3 but better.
Sounds like a Galaxy Nexus 2.
10" screen
100 QuBits RAM
Slide out 5 row keyboard
9 Terahertz Quint core processor
And a particle accelerator attachment
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Slide out 5 row keyboard
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lol. See, at least one thing on that ultimate list is obtainable. Too bad the phone mfgs don't get it and make more of them.
With a screen that big, you could have a Function Key row and a number pad! It will end up looking like the new tablet with a slide out keyboard..
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With a screen that big, you could have a Function Key row and a number pad! It will end up looking like the new tablet with a slide out keyboard..
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LOL that would look ridiculous
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If there's going to be another sidekick, i'd avoid it like the plague if it's from samsung again. It says a lot when they get the keyboard drivers wrong on at least two phones. Also, touchwiz.
Here's what i'm hoping on the next sidekick, if we see another one:
- Dual core 1 GHz or more CPU
- 1GB RAM
- 5 row keyboard
- 4 inch screen (i don't mind bigger, but i think 4 inch is the most likely size, and should please most people)
- 960x540 screen (800x480 is getting a little outdated, though it's still a good resolution)
... and interestingly enough, this phone leaked a few days back with similar specs i listed, and i'm already eyeing it: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Cayenne_id7120
I don't know the general opinion of LG around here, but I've had a good experience with my ancient LG GW620 and its lovely 5 row keyboard, though it was slow as hell and uses a CPU that's even older than the G1.
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I know what we need. Replace the utterly useless micro optical trackpad! Give us a ball, a nub, a much bigger optical trackpad, ANYTHING!
Also, an inverted T set of arrow keys in the keyboard would be spectacular.
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The optical trackthing is useless, agreed. The sun and other heat sources create more input on it than I do. Or did, before I disabled it and forgot about its existence.
Real arrow keys would be nice, but I remapped the insipid smiley key to the up arrow, and the only-ever-pressed-accidentally microphone key to down arrow. So I can at least get around in my command history.
Apart from that, as others have said, more RAM (I'll go so far as to say 1.5 GB), although I don't really feel the need for a faster processor. 5 GHz 802.11n would be nice.
And last but not least... better code drops from the manufacturer. Samsung and T-Mobile did the bare minimum to comply with the GPL. TI internals would be a good start. Fewer proprietary peripherals, more open ones.
And under no circumstances may the keyboard be reduced in number of rows, spacing, or tactile quality.
I want my d-pad and hardware trackball back.
And, I want my pop/swivel hinge back.
There's no harm in putting that d-pad back. I am tired of hearing people that play games on their phone complain that a phone looks like you could play a game on it.
Devolution is real.
As a SK supporter since the day i had to plug my redic dot matrix camera into my bric err cinderblock black and white OG sidekick "1g" and my mr cartoon sk2 and the overhyped overpriced no difference but a lil thinner and a flashy rollerball with same booty screen sk3 (they lost me to crackberry during the whole slide lx dwade ed 07 08 09 new sk every month bs) id like to say the typical dual core 4+ inch screen 1gb+ ram as most but by the time this thing actually would come out u gotta imagine the landscape of the future androids. ics is already internally being considered a flop or to be politically correct a "gateway"(windoze me millenium ed if u will)to intertwine both tablet and phone interfaces and to make way for the more slightly desktop interfaced and integrated android 5 already in testing and rumored to make a q4 this year debut...so in other words q3 next yr if we r lucky.(its coming eventually, phone tablet and chromebooks all running the same android) so seeing how the sidekick has historically been behind the ball as far as tech ill just be happy with a galaxy s2 running ics built into a SK package. i tried to pretend when i 1st upgraded to the s2 with a bt keyboard and rigged case but nothing and i mean nothing out today beats the sidekick layout and keyboard. give me the s2 guts in a sk package and a below 500 pricetag a year from today and im happy, bigger higher res screen is a must but for petes sake...dont forget the freaking camera flash this time!
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orange808 said:
I want my d-pad and hardware trackball back.
And, I want my pop/swivel hinge back.
There's no harm in putting that d-pad back. I am tired of hearing people that play games on their phone complain that a phone looks like you could play a game on it.
Devolution is real.
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prefer but dont really care about the hinge but ditto on the rollerball, tho it jams with dust and the d pad. this new joystick sucks balls. btw while we r dreaming. quad core the b 2gb ram 32gb internal 64gb external sdxc and a 5 inch hd screen 8+MP cam w/flash! all with the sidekick layout/keyboard and id shell out 1500 bucks right now lol samsung would prolly just jack it up with gingerbread or some crap
I'm quite happy with the hinge design we have now. It's very strong and solid. Much more so than the classic Sidekick mechanism. I've yet to see a Sidekick 4G with the screen broken off. But I've seen older sidekicks in two pieces.
I suspect it also allows the phone to be thinner, but I can't confirm that.
So I'm looking to buy a new phone tomorrow, and I have come down to two choices.
I used these following links for comparison:
* http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-T-Mobile/phones/7300,5541
* http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4914&idPhone2=4129
So let's see...
* The Relay has better CPU (basically Snapdragon S4 vs S3 on the SII) and GPU (Adreno 225 vs 220), a physical keyboard, better pixel density due to smaller screen, and overall just "newer" hardware.
* The SII has better camera, better (Super AMOLED Plus vs. Super AMOLED) and bigger display (although at the same screen resolution as the Relay, which lowers screen density and may cause pixelation), more internal storage (16GB vs 8GB, although I don't go crazy with apps and games), and is more lightweight and thin.
Things to know:
* My hands are smaller than most people's. My current 3.7 inch Samsung Exhibit II fits in my hand very nice, so the Relay should be fine. The SII may be too big if thinking logically.
* I care mostly about the performance of the phone.
* I don't care whether the camera is 720p or 1080p.
* Since they are both priced at around the same range, the price does not matter.
* I do not mind having a physical keyboard. In fact, I favor it.
How are you buying this ? Are you buying on/off-contract or used or ? How much are you going to end up paying ? (I know it's short notice, but maybe there's something !even better! in your price range)
While I would (probably) personally choose the SII, it sounds like the Relay is what you want and what would work for you, personally.
I would probably pick the SII because since having a phone without a physical keyboard I've found I prefer it that way and am happy to do away with the bulk - and I like having a bigger screen. I don't know about hand size, but what's "small" for hands ? My hand is only about 6" long, base of palm to tip of middle finger and I can use the almost 5" SIII with one hand without any issue.
I say probably because I really like to see them in person before buying. See the screens, responsiveness, et cetera - back when I was considering a phone with a physical keyboard I definitely wanted to try the keyboard before buying since it can make such a huge difference. I loved the keyboard on my old flip-phone (full keyboard), but haven't seen one with the same feel on smartphone which was disappointing to me and lead to me trying the touch-only phone.
I don't know how the Relay is made, but I would consider the lifespan of the slider mechanism - my friend had a connection come loose in a relatively new phone and the screen would flash on and off and the only solution would be to take the phone completely apart to repair it. I know that the slider mechanisms tend to not be the most durable - but I guess it depends on how you use it - once upon a time I had a flip-style phone and lots of people complained that the flip would come loose or break, but I was always gentle with mine and never had an issue.
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I was wondering why they made Android smartphones so big? For me the display size above 4.5 inches are useless. Who wants so big dimensions in his pocket? I had Note for a week. It was so uncomfortable. I even prefer 4.3 inch display instead 4.5 one. But these with small dimensions doesn't have good hardware.
Now according to my criteria there are only three phones with MONSTER hardware - Xiaomi MI-2 . MI-2S and Meizu MX-4
So I don't know what to buy.
What do you think? With this temp the displays will be 6 inches, which is ridiculous and ..... If I want tablet I will buy tablet.
It's a matter of opinion.
I went from a HD2 (4.3) to a SGS3 (4.8), and more and more I find even the size of my SGS3's screen to be too small. I watch a lot of films, play a lot of games and use my phone as an Ereader. Below 5" is too small for my taste. I'm actually happily anticipating the Note 3's potential 6" screen.
If all you do is the occasional casual game, post on a forum, read some webpages and do other, non-big things (More commonly referred to as 'the activities of the average iSheep'), a 4.5+" screen will probably feel bulky, yes.
Why would a small screen need heavy hardware? It's not as if it has to push a lot of pixels... . In fact, the hardware will be completely wasted as there is nothing one does that requires the processing power.
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It's a matter of opinion.
I went from a HD2 (4.3) to a SGS3 (4.8), and more and more I find even the size of my SGS3's screen to be too small. I watch a lot of films, play a lot of games and use my phone as an Ereader. Below 5" is too small for my taste. I'm actually happily anticipating the Note 3's potential 6" screen.
If all you do is the occasional casual game, post on a forum, read some webpages and do other, non-big things (More commonly referred to as 'the activities of the average iSheep'), a 4.5+" screen will probably feel bulky, yes.
Why would a small screen need heavy hardware? It's not as if it has to push a lot of pixels... . In fact, the hardware will be completely wasted as there is nothing one does that requires the processing power.
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This lady knows. Listen to her. Lmao 5in is too small. Mines alot bigger. Yes I was referring to the Note II. But also the other way too
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Sorry , but I am not iSheep. I hate very very much Apple iPhone!
I don't play games or if I play they are very simple. I am using it for some special thins in my daylife. Android can be programmed to do specific tasks in specific time. This is very useful. But I want a bit little size of the displays.
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Sorry , but I am not iSheep. I hate very very much Apple iPhone!
I don't play games or if I play they are very simple. I am using it for some special thins in my daylife. Android can be programmed to do specific tasks in specific time. This is very useful. But I want a bit little size of the displays.
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Just get a HTC One S. Great phone, getting Sense 5 soon. Krait processor. Very slim and small. Perfect. Job done
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The three options according to GSMarena.com phone finder searching tool were Xiaomi Mi-2 , Xiaomi Mi-2S and Meizu MX-4.
I am really looking for Xiaomi. It is something great , but in this forum here people don't like it. And I know the reason.
The other variants are HTC One S , HTC First or Galaxy 4. (The last is big , but not enough to be compared to S4 , One and Xperia Z).
I guess it depends on what you do with your phone. What do you do that requires "monster" hardware and if it really does, how are you able to deal with the tiny screen size ?
I have the Galaxy S3 and the screen size is too "small" for the tasks that actually use the hardware to any great extent. Temple Run is okay, but many games are hard to play on such a small screen. I've watched Netflix on it quite a few times but it's never a really pleasant experience - my 10" tablet allows for video to be immersive, but the 4.8" screen is to small to really focus in on. It's too small to navigate most web-sites on without annoyance.
Is there a special program you use that needs high-end hardware ? Are you just not bothered by the tiny screen when it comes to the above tasks ?
I don't consider the S3 to be particularly "big" or "bulky" as I can fit it in my pocket and now that I'm using only bumpers for protection (along with screen protector and phone skin) it's really quite thin - so hardly bulky at all. If it can comfortably fit in my pocket I guess I don't find it that big. I can use it one handed, too.
Yes , the usage is the most important thing.
About the games - I don't play games often. I don't like FPS or somthing like that , cause now I am too old for this kind of games. And the experience is not as good as the one on the PCs. I have played only racing games. Especially Need for Speed Series and Asphalt.
Now on my phone (Galaxy W) I have only Temple Run 2 , Scrabble , Simple Chess. Temple Run 2 lags sometimes.
For films. I don't watch films on my phone. Even if I would have 5 inch phonblet. I watch sometimes only Youtube.
So maybe it isn't necessary to buy quad core phone. Dual is enough.
But for the RAM. Maybe it should be 2 GB.
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Yes , the usage is the most important thing.
About the games - I don't play games often. I don't like FPS or somthing like that , cause now I am too old for this kind of games. And the experience is not as good as the one on the PCs. I have played only racing games. Especially Need for Speed Series and Asphalt.
Now on my phone (Galaxy W) I have only Temple Run 2 , Scrabble , Simple Chess. Temple Run 2 lags sometimes.
For films. I don't watch films on my phone. Even if I would have 5 inch phonblet. I watch sometimes only Youtube.
So maybe it isn't necessary to buy quad core phone. Dual is enough.
But for the RAM. Maybe it should be 2 GB.
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I agree that the usage is what's important. Some companies do release some small phones, like Sony and Samsung. I'm actually a really big fan of the small android phones like the Xperia Ray, S3 mini, Xperia U... okay maybe they aren't that small compared to the Xperia Minis. but their size fits right in the palm of my hand and they're pretty slim and the hardware is pretty decent for their size (the Ray is amazing, still can't get over it).
The screen size, well it is user dependent, by that i mean it depends on what you do with your phone. Some games actually feel more comfy to play on a small screen (like Cytus, easy to reach the notes but sometimes hit notes by accident.) some are also comfy to play on a bigger screen because the UI might be too small (like Plague Inc. really small map. but you can zoom in if needed. its a hassle though). For me though i prefer watching movies on my Ray because the image looks clearer on smaller screens. which i enjoy.
One comment on screen size. its equally hard to use a full keyboard on a small screen as it would be on a big screen. still press the wrong keys by accident. but that's just me
If you don't want a big phone, don't get one. Pretty simple.
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If you don't want a big phone, don't get one. Pretty simple.
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Normally I'd complain about someone bringing up a year-old thread with such an inane and unhelpful comment, but things have actually changed since this thread was active.
Firstly, I'll address your comment. Small Androids are plentiful, but good small Androids aren't. And small Androids with "flagship" specs are few and far between.
In fact, there's only ONE, the Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Apart from the 4.3" 720p screen and smaller battery, it's every bit the beast of a phone as its bigger brother. Same processor, same 2GB RAM, same 20.7MP camera, same build quality, same software features, etc. In fact, since it only has a 720p screen instead of a 1080p, the Z1 Compact absolutely screams.
Even better, Sony is about to come out with the Z3 Compact (they skipped the Z2 Compact). Despite being exactly the same height and width, they're cramming a 4.6" screen (some rumors say 720p, some say 1080p) in there, and making it a hair thinner too. Dual front facing speakers, SD801 processor 2 or 3gb RAM (depending on the rumor), and the same software suite and 20.7MP camera as before.
Both are only slightly larger than an iPhone 5s or 5C, and much smaller than the current 5.0-5.5" flagship phones.
Oh, and they're waterproof.
These "Compact" Sonys are a departure from the "Mini" phones the other main manufacturers, like the Galaxy S4 Mini, LG G2 Mini, HTC One Mini(s), etc. which all are neutered spec-wise in many ways. Lower MP cameras, slower processors, less RAM, sub-HD screens, etc. And some are only "mini" in that they're not as huge as their bigger brothers, but could hardly be considered small.
The Droid Mini is a pretty good phone actually - all the specs of the Droid Ultra or Droid Maxx, but only available with Verizon in the US.
The Moto X is small for its largish screen size, and fits the hand (and pocket) nicely. It's substantially smaller than other 4.7" phones like the Nexus 4 or HTC One (M7).
I changed from my HTC Desire S to a Jiayu G3C, and it was a really big change for me. The Desire S was really good for one hand and fits perfectly in the pocket.. But the Jiayu it's really big. I think more than 4" is too much big to be called a "phone", is like I already see those phone as a "phablets"
I agree, many modern phones feel big and bulky. The range of 4-4.5'' is ideal for me.
Yes they're on the bigger side as of late as that trend continues to be in vogue, but holy moly are they lighter than any iPhone I've ever owned and used. I know the 5s is super light, but never owned one. I was used to the iPhone for awhile and never thought twice about its weight but after playing with some friends droid devices, the iPhone has always felt like a brick since then.
Nexus5 fits like a glove!
Personally, I thought the iPhone 4 was the perfect size because I could use everything on the screen comfortably with one hand. Now with my GS4 there are areas in the screen I just cant reach one handed the way I used to.
I think that They designed it for the user who often to play game and watch HD movie on their smartphone. Maybe that's why Samsung have "mini" version like Samsung S3 Mini.
But of course the can't make Galaxy Note smaller. It wouldn't be good.
It seems that soon enough we will have the Galaxy Alpha, which should be a good contender for the Z1 Compact (and it's straight successor, the Z3 Compact).
But I do agree with the OP, phones are getting a little too big for my tastes. Do notice I said "tastes", because it really is a matter of taste.
There are plenty of users willing to carry a larger device and take advantage of the added "screen real-estate".
For me are phones the best around 5-5,5 inch.
But maybe you can try out the HTC one mini or the LG G2 mini or the new Galaxy Alpha
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For me it's the bigger the better, but we need bigger pockets on our clothes soon
The new XZ2 compact was just announced at MWC. How is 5 inch screen now considered compact? The phone isn't that much bigger than Xz1 compact, but the reachability of corners on the screen is still going to be difficult.
I for one hate it. All the good things about the Xperia compact are gone. First of all, it's not a compact phone, just modest in size (almost like Samsung s8). And the awesome angular design is gone. That was unique nowadays - everybody makes rounded phones. I loved Sony's monolith design. And the fingerprint on power is also gone. Replaced by what everyone else has.
The only good thing is that it's as powerful as regular flagships, but then, it's almost as big as other flagships, so what's the point.
Today's very unfortunate. I hope my Xz1 compact does not die and keeps getting updates.
Agreed. And the worst rumor is that it won't have a headphone jack. That just sucks!
6mm taller, 1mm wider, rear fingerprint instead of side (best placement), no 3.5mm, 18:9 instead of 16:9, no thanks.
Best thing about the XZ2C is that now the XZ1C's price will probably drop
Was disappointed when i heard 5 inch for a "compact". I fear this will mark the end of the true Compact (sub 5 inch) phone.
Perhaps my XZ1C will be the last compact I own.
That's exactly what I'm thinking. And that would mean, the last Sony phone I'll purchase. Too bad, loved the battery life on these phones. My only hope now is that the pixel phone at the end of the year does not increase it's screen size and reduces bezel like pixel2xl, maybe then it'll be manageable.
Even if you cut all bezels from a 6" phone, it still remains with a 6" screen?
Anyway, it's funny how compact is now perfect for guys with normal hands.
NadavCE said:
Best thing about the XZ2C is that now the XZ1C's price will probably drop
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Pretty much this. I already own an XZ1 Compact and if Sony continues on their current craptastic path I will buy another XZ1 Compact when my current one dies out.
If I wanted a 5" phone there are many other options out there that are well under the 700 dollar price point. And if I wanted a phone that looked like an HTC, I would buy an HTC.
Trivia: it was htc to "copy" sony (if really any). Look at "xperia P".
Also, I'm curios to know these [new] 5" phones. I'd sell my ass if they were any higher than the low mid-end.
i think a 5" screen can be considered a compact phone nowadays, with all these new *****ng big phones being released, also considering it has virtual buttons that steal screen space. 4.6" and virtual buttons is little too small for me.. still.. the best would have been same dimensions and design of the xz1 I agree, with just less bezels and 5" screen! (really don't care if it had to be 16:9..)
plus, same thickness as xz1, or if you increase it, put a bigger battery!
i too liked more lateral FPS, but being on the back (and always on, so don't need dt2w to wake phone) i can leave with it.
also missing jack is not a good thing, but again not a big deal for me, as long as they ship the phone with the dual adapter, while in the office can both charge phone and use wired headphones for calls (out of office, if i use headphones, i already use bt ones).
i hate those damned curved panels though, making it almost impossible to find good tempered glass that perfectly fit... but better than Samsung style edge screens at least....
still it is a flagship in pretty compact shell, a pure rarity today, so may get one, if camera is really improved (especially low light) also considering with the preorder offer i could get nice wireless headphones i could sell, so final purchasing price for the compact one could be around 400€... not bad for a just released flagship!
i just really miss old good fm radio... but find me a small flagship with it..
I'm also tempted by the pixel 2 (great camera, stock android, updates) but it is bigger and those useless huge bezels.. plus it would still be more expensive..
...and i don't rely too much in new pixels.. I'm pretty sure new smaller pixel, if it will come, will have same dimensions as current pixel 2, but with bigger screen (so even more difficult to reach angles with one hand mode usage) and probably with that awful notch..? no thank you!
I prefer all the life more thickness, rear FPS, missing jack rather than having that damned notch! shame on all those who are copying apple.. even that pure sh*t new design! my god..
btw.. only sure thing is that for us liking nice portable phones is just becoming a real nightmare finding a new phone to "upgrade" to..
...and sorry for the long post.. just needed to share my frustrations..
The saddest news of all with the 5 inch screen is that the Android compact is officially dead. I had to move to the iPhone when the SE came out to keep my compact flagship a reality because my xperia compact cameras sucked, I moved to the iphone 7 and 8 after, and now they are killing the sub 5 inch iPhone for all 6+ inch iPhones this year. iPhone 8 will be the last true compact flagship ever made most likely. COMPACT PHONES ARE OFFICIALLY DEAD.
kekistaneerefugee said:
The saddest news of all with the 5 inch screen is that the Android compact is officially dead. I had to move to the iPhone when the SE came out to keep my compact flagship a reality because my xperia compact cameras sucked, I moved to the iphone 7 and 8 after, and now they are killing the sub 5 inch iPhone for all 6+ inch iPhones this year. iPhone 8 will be the last true compact flagship ever made most likely. COMPACT PHONES ARE OFFICIALLY DEAD.
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so you are saying the iphone 8 is the last true compact flagship, while the XZ2 is even smaller than the iphone 8?
it is just thicker, but I prefer a shorter phone rather than taller but thinner...
not to mention the iphone 8 is bigger but with smaller screen... lol if I think we all (me included) always blamed sony for their huge bezels (up to the xz1 series) and apple always made (and is still doing, see 8 plus) even bigger bezels... well if apple fans are happy..
btw, I pre-ordered the xz2c with the wireless headphones bundle offer... can't wait to try it out, hope the camera is really improved this time and can keep this new phone at least couple of years, really don't want to keep changing phone every year! :fingers-crossed:
I'm looking forward to it overall. 720p on previous Compacts is starting to feel a bit small and it's overall barely larger than previous Compacts despite being a 5" screen. I welcome the higher resolution, even if it does cost a bit more in battery life. Plus it now has 64GB onboard storage plus a MicroSD card slot. I should be able to fit whatever I want on it now. The missing headphone jack is rather disappointing, but not a total dealbreaker. So I'm planning to get one when it's available.
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I'm looking forward to it overall. 720p on previous Compacts is starting to feel a bit small and it's overall barely larger than previous Compacts despite being a 5" screen. I welcome the higher resolution, even if it does cost a bit more in battery life. Plus it now has 64GB onboard storage plus a MicroSD card slot. I should be able to fit whatever I want on it now. The missing headphone jack is rather disappointing, but not a total dealbreaker. So I'm planning to get one when it's available.
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I'm also looking forward to mine... pre-ordered from clove in the UK.
Go Sony
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so you are saying the iphone 8 is the last true compact flagship, while the XZ2 is even smaller than the iphone 8?
it is just thicker, but I prefer a shorter phone rather than taller but thinner...
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Xz2 compact isn't a flagship just because it has a flagship processor, the camera is again holding it back from being relevant just like every single xperia compact before it
If we could go back to the 4.3" screen and reduce the bezels we'd have a winning phone. But 5" is MASSIVE and the reduced bezels are not enough for me to pick it over a pixel/Galaxy/iPhone if I have to compromise this much on screen size and camera. Its not that much smaller at all.
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Xz2 compact isn't a flagship just because it has a flagship processor, the camera is again holding it back from being relevant just like every single xperia compact before it
If we could go back to the 4.3" screen and reduce the bezels we'd have a winning phone. But 5" is MASSIVE and the reduced bezels are not enough for me to pick it over a pixel/Galaxy/iPhone if I have to compromise this much on screen size and camera. Its not that much smaller at all.
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i think you didn't read enough reviews of the xz2c.. or we did read different things.. the all i read, say this time camera really improved a lot, and is on par with other flagships. i even saw better pictures taken with the xz2c compared to some of s8 or even s9 ones..
kekistaneerefugee said:
Xz2 compact isn't a flagship just because it has a flagship processor, the camera is again holding it back from being relevant just like every single xperia compact before it
If we could go back to the 4.3" screen and reduce the bezels we'd have a winning phone. But 5" is MASSIVE and the reduced bezels are not enough for me to pick it over a pixel/Galaxy/iPhone if I have to compromise this much on screen size and camera. Its not that much smaller at all.
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This statement makes no sense at all. Your only choice is the iPhone SE then unless there are other small screen phones in secret out there
MechaBouncer said:
I'm looking forward to it overall. 720p on previous Compacts is starting to feel a bit small and it's overall barely larger than previous Compacts despite being a 5" screen. I welcome the higher resolution, even if it does cost a bit more in battery life. Plus it now has 64GB onboard storage plus a MicroSD card slot. I should be able to fit whatever I want on it now. The missing headphone jack is rather disappointing, but not a total dealbreaker. So I'm planning to get one when it's available.
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Exactly. Screen improvement is what I was waiting for. I don't mind not having a headphone jack, and shipping with Oreo means it'll have Treble support for some additional flexibility. Glass back devices are ridiculous, so that's a plus, and there's no notch in the screen.
Sign me up!
I really also hate the new design - its not a Sony anymore. I would like to have a copmact one with a 4.6" screen and smaler bezels: so the phone shoudl be smaler not the screen bigger!
And pls fingerprint on the side...
Best thing Sony coudl do: a SE of the XZ1C with 64GB, and better Camera