Addtional battery Management on Custom ROMS - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

I realize this may be sacrilege to some, but is there any advantage to installing a battery management app like Juicedefender to a custom ROM? Or is each ROM optimized enough to not need third party apps like this... I just installed the ICS 2.3.5...
If not, are there custom kernels that can be flashed to this ROM to optimize battery more?
Thanks.

Actually, there is EVERY advantage of installing JD on any rom. JD does things no roms can do, like enable/disable connectivity such as wifi, gps, bluetooth depending on variable you chose such as location, time of day....
I use JD ultimate and this is what i usually get...JD is probably the best battery manager out there, you can couple it wil SetCPU to additionally tweak it.
On this screen is my usage for tha past day, i have 25% left and i've already have 26 hours on my battery. JD is set to keep wifi on at all time when im home. Imagine how much more i could gain if it only enabled wifi every half hour to sync my stuff.
Also take into consideration i've been uploading all my pictures to dropbox for the past 1.5 hours. When i woke up 2 hours ago, i have 43% remaining. So dropbox drained 20% in 1.5 hours
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polish_pat said:
Actually, there is EVERY advantage of installing JD on any rom. JD does things no roms can do, like enable/disable connectivity such as wifi, gps, bluetooth depending on variable you chose such as location, time of day....
Also take into consideration i've been uploading all my pictures to dropbox for the past 1.5 hours. When i woke up 2 hours ago, i have 43% remaining. So dropbox drained 20% in 1.5 hours
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Very nice thanks, good to know at least I picked a good one...
Also what battery app is that u r using?

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I don't see a point really. My screen uses most of the battery.
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I dont understand how you can "not see the point". Even a save of 10%-15% gives you at least a couple more hours of up time...we all know there is no magical solution for such a hungry, battery guzzling phone, but why not make the best out of it and control what we can?

I guess I do see the point. Maybe I just don't care that much. It makes sense to try to maximize battery life, so maybe I will try it out. I don't care much for the idea of turning off data when the screen is off with manual sync times though.

buy a extra battery. or a car charger. juice defender and under volting will help but not much. just turn screen down your self and turn wifi off which leave house. i tried most bat apps there are. i don't use any now and get better life then most people. been work eight hours and I'm at eighty four percent still. that's with use lol. jd uses more then it saves
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Any of you guys try that double capacity battery, if it really does give 100% more juice? I am debating over it because it also makes the phone heavier and almost twice as thick... the slim form factor and weight is one of my fav parts of this phone so..

There's a double capacity battery? Where can I get it?

Robnw said:
There's a double capacity battery? Where can I get it?
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I'm sure they sell it elsewhere but it is all over ebay and I was tempted:
3800mAh Extended Battery + Cover
I love my slim form so I may just get like a battery 3 pack and always keep a couple charged in the fridge or something... when I go out for a while it can easily fit in a back pocket or bag for emergency.

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My battery life!

I'm having a great overall experience with the Inspire 4G w/ CM7. Just wanted to show you guys some screenshots of the battery life I'm getting so far. These shots I took after a day of heavy usage, including a few hours of net browsing, texting, and e-mails.
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Hey try using juice defender or current widget to exceed your current battery life. Both control which apps that are eating up your battery. Kills the non needed ones.
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i've seen all the complaints about battery life but i must say mine is more than adequate. maybe because for the first 4 days i had the phone, after charging it for 10+hrs, i ran the battery all the way to 0 (til it shutdown), recharged to full, then drained it again.
it was my old habit from my nokia days.
Yeah, to be honest, this is equal to or better than the battery life I was getting with my Captivate. I can tell you with an absolute certainty that the battery did have to "break in" for a short period, after installing CM7.
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Its deff better than captivate, 99% due to the screen. I got over 5 hours screen on time in a 16 hour period the other day with my rom/kernel combo with screen brightness at about 40-50%. That's pretty damn good, way better than the captivate could ever get
On my LG Ally i was lucky to get 6-8 hours with just light use. With the Inspire on cm7 i have gotten around 20ish hours with moderate to high use.
I'm still shocked that i am able to get that much battery life. lol
I'm still breaking my Captivate records. I took my phone off the charger @ 7:00am on Wednesday the 20th. I'm now at 15%.
What roms are you guys running. Im on coredroid 5.4. I get about 20 h with moderate use. I consider it to be pretty good. But no way can I get over like 30 h. I don't like to use juice defender or setcpu. Don't feel like I should use apps that override android os. Especially GB is so will optimized and efficient.
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I'm on CM7 and only wish I could get the battery you guys are talking about. I just went from 93% to 90% in a matter of minutes doing nothing on the phone. It was sitting on my desk!
Divinedark said:
I'm still breaking my Captivate records. I took my phone off the charger @ 7:00am on Wednesday the 20th. I'm now at 15%.
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Does your phone get lonely spending all that time lying silent longing for your swipe?
newter55 said:
Does your phone get lonely spending all that time lying silent longing for your swipe?
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Not at all. It's my personal and work cell, so I talk, text, surf, and play games what I would consider a moderate amount. I don't use a large overclock. I use the smart ass governor on Leedroid's most recent rom, and my screen brightness at 1/3.
There are days that I can put it tonthe test, but my first charge got me 35 hours with 5 hours awake time.
That's it? I got this a while ago and that's before I did some optimizations... I'm going to see what it can pull this weekend before it hits the 15% warning.
Apparently I can't add images until I get some more posts.

How long has your battery lasted?

Mine is at 10 hours and 40 min as of 3:02 AM EST
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Im still at 35% as I type...
I got 48 hours my last charge with light use and wifi on most of the time then 2 charges later the thing died in 8 hours after i practically never touched it @[email protected]
death1246 said:
Mine is at 10 hours and 40 min as of 3:02 AM EST
Im still at 35% as I type...
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why does your battery stats screen look different?
Oh and if I use the phone with light browsing/videos/music it can go for 5 maybe 6 days with the Gingerbread update and Mugen 4500 mAh extended battery. I got 3 days and was still at 68%.
To be completely honest, my battery life hasn't been very good lately. I'll take it off the charger at about 7AM in the morning. It'll be about nearly dead (in the orange or red) at about 6-8PM. Before the update, i'd get a lot more life out of it honestly. Whether I was using it or not.
i'm at 78% after 17hrs right now. but i utilize wifi.
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I got 48 hours my last charge with light use and wifi on most of the time then 2 charges later the thing died in 8 hours after i practically never touched it @[email protected]
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had exact same experience. I've decided it's because while I'm on wifi at work, it's not a strong signal so the phone keeps dis/reconnecting.
I'd say that I generally get around 20 hours with normal weekday usage.
I installed xboarders tweaked with LG cam and nothing else and would get about 10hrs out of the battery. Then I installed the nontweaked version with all bloat and stock camera and when I put it on my charger I was at 30hrs with 28% left.
If you wanna feel good about yourself dl ZDbox ... it always seems to exaggerate my battery life...lol
With heavy use I get about 8 hours.
"a phone to make you numb, a phone to make you dumb, a phone to make you anybody else...
All the roms in this world... wont save you from yourself"
Since I installed this plain rooted rom my battery has flatlined. All I have installed on it is Beautiful Widgets and enabled wifi calling.
has anyone ever seen anything like this? 15hrs and it was still at 76%.....
My battery was horrible until yesterday. CM7 build 97 helps my battery a lot and then I also use SetCPU with a screen off profile and an in-call profile. Those 2 things left my battery at 7% after exactly 24hours off the charger and light to moderate usage.
Screen off - 312/216
In Call - 1000/216 with priority slider set higher that screen off profile.
Credit goes to 'phburks' for the profile settings.
ikarma said:
Since I installed this plain rooted rom my battery has flatlined. All I have installed on it is Beautiful Widgets and enabled wifi calling.
has anyone ever seen anything like this? 15hrs and it was still at 76%.....
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Dude you didnt even use the phone until the end where it dipped.
Yeah, isn't that what your looking for? I only want my battery to drop when in use. Every other rom I have tried the that slope has been at around a 45° angle.
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why does your battery stats screen look different?
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I'm guessing miui
Longest I've had mine last was about 13 hours
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8-9 hours
I've gotten better battery performance on Eagleblood 2.3.5 ver1.6
Overall, still sucks. I've not tested the battery because I accept that having android, I can't expect for more than a day's use. My nokia e72 has great battery performance.
I'll push to see how much I can get, but honestly, I accept it. I'm always near a charger so it doesn't matter. Spent most of my frustration on getting a working ROM with my phone.
Now I can tweak with battery performance. I don't expect anything more than 8 hours. I use my phone alot.
last full charge on my G2x with Faux's rom and UV kernal lasted me 55 hours with normal usage, H+ (3g+) most the time, the true 42mb 4g isnt out here yet
I got 12 hours today. Amazing.
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30% left with moderate use.
Never more than a day

Battery Issue

OK people i know the Inspire has bad battery life, but this is ridiculous
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Running LeDroid HD 4.0
With
Radio w/RCDATA: 12.59.60.26P_26.11.04.21_M
MD5 Sum: 57cccef401c372c6d421c986ee42e0fe
RIL: HTC-RIL 2.2.160
MD5 Sum: 864d02352ce1100968cb39fe6ce65160
I think this is crazy
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What do you guys think
I think your last image got messed up. The three visible look identical (no drain).
Gene Poole said:
I think your last image got messed up. The three visible look identical (no drain).
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I think what he's trying to point out is at 4 and a half minutes he's still at 100%, at 9 minutes he's down to 99%, at 13 minutes he's down to 98%, at 35 minutes he's down to 95% - and I think he's saying he expects his battery to be a lot better than this.
If you're checking your battery drain that often, I expect your screen was on a good percentage of that time, and yes, Display will use a good % of your battery. Look at your Battery Use, what's eating the most battery?
Oh, I wasn't looking at the battery icon. And now the other image shows up. I thought maybe that last one showed a huge drop. That would have indicated a bad battery.
homeslice976 is right. If you keep looking at it, it'll keep draining fast. Get a widget from the market that keeps track over several hours (or days) and look for trends there.
My problem is this, i leave my phone charge over night and when i get up in the morning i disconnect my charger.
but as soon as i disconnect my charger no more then 1 to 2 minutes i already lost 1% within 1 to 2 minutes of disconnecting the charger yes i understand if i keep checking it it will lose battery.
but as soon as i disconnect my charger i light up a cigarette and then go to my text messages, like i said 1 minute still smoking my cigarette it is already at 99% before i even open my text messages
this battery sucks big time, i had a MT4G and i have way better battery then this
Speaking of MT4G i am going to put it up for sale in the Sales section.
have a bunch of extras for it
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homeslice976 is right. If you keep looking at it, it'll keep draining fast. Get a widget from the market that keeps track over several hours (or days) and look for trends there.
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You might try battery monitor widget pro from the market. It will give you a nice graph of battery usage over time.
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You also seem to have an inconsistent signal. By the third screen, you were down to EDGE. If the radio is constantly trying to get you a better signal, battery life suffers.
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You also seem to have an inconsistent signal. By the third screen, you were down to EDGE. If the radio is constantly trying to get you a better signal, battery life suffers.
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This is true too. Play around with different radio/ril combinations, letting them settle in for a day or two before testing and see if you get any better results
Well moved from LeDroid to Virtuous Unity and battery looks a whole lot better and so does my wifi signal.
I have installed the Battery Monitor Widget so we will see what kind of results i get with it.
PS i am also using a Slim Extended Battery from Anker 1600mAh
had one with my MT4G with 1700mAh and it ran great
Your screen takes a lot out of the battery, end of story, not much you can do. I agree the battery life you originally posted was nutty. I had the same thing when I first starting using Coredroid. These links helped me knock out some of the other high battery drain issues and since haven't had too many problems..I do these anytime I flash a new rom and battery life has not been an issue. Hope everything on the new rom works out man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16808932
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
I am still scratching my head. What is so wrong with the pics above? I don't dee it. Everything looks normal. Last pic shows 95% and awake time of 21:43. Do the math and that is over 400 minutes of wake time on a battery charge. Not to mention that you were doing something on your phone as you did switch wifi on for the last 20 minutes between pics.
You can't measure your gas mileage in a car by only driving 30 miles nor can you on your phone in only 30 minutes on a battery that probably isn't perfectly calibrated for the phone anyways.

3000 mah battery

http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-Innoce..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1326161817&sr=1-1
Here is the link, it says "vibrant" but it will work with sgs4g. Unfortunately, you have to make your phone fatter.
Hi Airfluip
Have you tried it?
I heard ppl say it does not last much more than the original bat.
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no, i just found it. Don't have money to buy things, specially batteries.(I am 14) also, my battery lasts through a few days of use.
Mine lasts 1 day...
Tried out many ROMs and tweaks, guess I'm a very heavy user...
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Not really fond of making the phone thicker. Better just to buy 2x 1800mAh (or 1500mAh) batteries and swap as needed.
I'm getting one of these soon, I will post my results whenever I can
thank you.
It's eta'd to be here around the 2nd, so it will be a bit
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Update: i got the battery today, I'm letting it charge. right now I'm using my horrible flip-phone that i obtained when being on monthly 4g. i will get back with the results after the first full discharge
here is another one for cheaper: http://www.ecrater.com/p/12744868/extended-battery-with-cover-for-samsung-galaxy-s#
you get what you paid for. honestly, I wouldn't trust one of those.
As for the Seidio, last night it lasted me 10+ hours with heavy usage(constant music, gaming) and it was at 39 percent or so when I plugged it in.
Today, i have had it unplugged for four hours, listening to music around the same amount and it is at 90 percent so it's a major plus
before 10 percent would last me maybe 30 minutes max if i'm constantly listening to music, and this is only my second cycle. waiting until it's completely broken in
I will post a full report once I actually kill the thing lol
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here is another one for cheaper: http://www.ecrater.com/p/12744868/extended-battery-with-cover-for-samsung-galaxy-s#
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That seller has terrible feedback. I would rather go with amazon.
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So this is what my battery looks like after two days of usage. With music playing, downloads happening, standby standing by calls being taken, etc etc. So I guess this battery really does this phone some good as I never have been able to squeeze this much juice out of my phone. Oh did I mention I was playing games hours at a time.
I recommend this product a lot, but I don't necessarily deem it an absolute need, but close to it, especially for excessive use
I was going it let it drain, but I think I'm going to throw it on the charger now, as the major drawbacks are a longer charge time, and thr size....which once you're used to it isn't as bad as it seems, I actually like the extra weight, and the way it feels.
Anyways if you're willing to shell around 60 bucks out for more juice(a lot more) then I highly recommend it
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Very interested in the biggest capacity battery I can get for around ~40-60 bucks.
I just got my phone four days ago, only just now let it go through a complete drain cycle.
But I was doing homework today and it didn't even make it through a full day of classes for me (From 7am to 4pm). Mostly just listening to music, calculator, a new text every twenty or so minutes, quick google shots during English classes.
Really disappointed by that. But if an extended battery will fix it (Also going to pick up a portable power pack if I can), I have to ask ... does this phone only draw 500 mA maximum when charging? I use the Apple USB charger because it's output is 1 Amp, the Samsung charger is 750 mA. Don't see a difference really - they both take a REALLY long time to charge.
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I'll take it, then.
Thanks a bunch for the tests.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Capa...035455?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3376d57fbf
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Capa...035455?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3376d57fbf
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Do you have this battery yourself, and if yes, what can you say about it?

Battery life

I see people posting about 12 hr - 24 hr battery this is what I get with cpu at 1.6xx wifi on 24hr no cell sip calling moderate use
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Not sure if this is right for what I use
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If you want better battery life, I can suggest a few things.
Buy a better battery, flash a non sense rom(sense takes up a lot of battery), shut off your gps, turn down your brightness, if those still don't help, there might be a rogue app in the background . Use system tuner to find it.
What like cm9 I was on fence I guess I will try it bright on auto no money for battery
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my battery life is about 20hours
ps turn down your brightnes
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If you want better battery life, I can suggest a few things.
Buy a better battery, flash a non sense rom(sense takes up a lot of battery), shut off your gps, turn down your brightness, if those still don't help, there might be a rogue app in the background . Use system tuner to find it.
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I find this hard to believe. I've tried all three, non-sense, sense, and AOSP. I get about the same battery life (screen on, max brightness, active use; 3.25 hours). That's whether or not I strip most of the useless applications out.
Anyway, OP, best I can tell you is to remove that Sense 4 rom. Seriously, they're not 100% ready for our phones and may never be. Any instabilities or issues you have using them are your own doing.
Deathsongx3 said:
If you want better battery life, I can suggest a few things.
Buy a better battery, flash a non sense rom(sense takes up a lot of battery), shut off your gps, turn down your brightness, if those still don't help, there might be a rogue app in the background . Use system tuner to find it.
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I disagree that Sense takes up a lot of battery. I've run AOSP, Sense and Senseless ROMs and to be honest, they take up about the same amount of battery. But yes, turn down your brightness (don't use auto-brightness) and try another ROM. I've generally found Sense 4 ROMs to have greater battery drain, which I believe can't be helped at the moment considering that they're ports and the devs are still working hard to make them stable/smooth.
I've got stock battery and I can definitely get more than 12 hours with moderate use.
you should disable automatic brightness if you want better battery life, but there is really something wrong with your sensation, try to install the newest firmware and do a full wipe and a new install of the rom you prefer.

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