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[Q] Root now or wait for Gingerbread?

Hey all,
I've been reading up on the forums, trying to figure out the best option to root my Inspire 4G and making sure there is a proven unroot method.
I guess my biggest question is whether I should root now or wait for the official Gingerbread update to come out and root then?? Any input about this question would be greatly appreciated along with suggestions to BEST root/unroot options to keep the phone as close to stock as possible yet have the ability to get rid of these bloated programs.
Anyway, love the site!

We really have no idea if/when AT&T will even release Gingerbread for this phone, so if you might have to root just to get it and install one of the Desire HD releases.
Rooting is not all that hard, the key is making the goldcard correctly. After that you can either do attn1's hack kit or Bubby's gui based method. After that install one of the stock rooted ROMS from the dev section.

cab121783 said:
Hey all,
I've been reading up on the forums, trying to figure out the best option to root my Inspire 4G and making sure there is a proven unroot method.
I guess my biggest question is whether I should root now or wait for the official Gingerbread update to come out and root then?? Any input about this question would be greatly appreciated along with suggestions to BEST root/unroot options to keep the phone as close to stock as possible yet have the ability to get rid of these bloated programs.
Anyway, love the site!
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I guess there are questions as to what your actual goal is. Do you need to install non-market applications, do you need to really remove the stock AT&T additions? I am not sure I would call the AT&T additions bloated, they serve a purpose in a way most people would rather have served by other programs and therefore bloat the ROM but they are fairly well behaved and aren't that big.
If you check the development section there are rooted stock ROMs available. This will keep everything very close to the original HTC ROM with much of the AT&T extras removed. The rooting process is fairly straight forward if not a bit painful at times, with the hardest part being the process of finding an SD card that will work as a Gold Card. I rooted my phone as I needed some non-market applications from my company that can not be side loaded properly as part of their installation requires accepting a system change and they will not work without this confirmation.
As to Gingerbread coming to this phone, if the amount of time it took the Aria to get Froyo updates is any indication, don't wait for the official release. AT&T drags its feet on updates to phones after they get potential updates from the vendors. This is because they claim to be doing heavy testing internally to make sure the update process is smooth. Not sure I buy that but it does take a long time between versions, so if you are eager for some change on your phone root it now because your wait for an AT&T release will be long.

Basically, I want to keep the door open to do any customization I want as I learn what this OS and phone is capable of.
I'm an avid tinkerer with PCs and the Windows OS and I enjoy not being restricted to one set way to do things. However, I like the setup this phone has originally. I just don't like apps such ad AT&T Familymap, Navigator, Code Scanner, the asphalt game, and the worthless blockbuster app. They are the devil.
Seriously though, I'm all about custom goodies. But I also need a proven way if the phone goes haywire or gets damaged that I can restore to factory and send it in since I have insurance on the Inspire.
Hope this helps fill in the blanks as far as questions to how I'm going to use it. Appreciate the answers so far so please keep them coming!

Oh and I read some rumor that gingerbread was coming in May or June. Good point though on carriers dragging their feet. More than likely going to root now.

Rooting is probably going to be the same no matter what so you may as well do it. As for gingerbread you can get that now with CM7 RC2 is pretty good. If you font mind no htc sense its great and getting better. You can always try it and then change.
Sent from my Inspire "4G" using Tapatalk Pro.

Regarding your questions about going back to stock after obtaining root/s-off, it is a very simple process. As for rooting, the hack kit has a very detailed set of instructions.
After reading what you are looking to do, I would suggest moving to one of the rooted stock roms and playing with that. Then flash one of the gingerbread roms whenever you want to check them out. Of course, do a nandroid to save time going back to your previous setup.

You want to go ahead and root dont wait for at&t
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

I rooted my phone with bubby's rooting program and have downloaded Core Droid Gingerbread version 4 and it is working great, the extra effects that they have added make it all that much more fun to have. I would not wait for AT&T at all.

Waiting for AT&T is like going through a White Castles drive-thru. You only do it if you have a great deal of time to waste.
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[Q] To Root or not to Root?

Prior to my Inspire I was on a iPhone 3gs not jailbroken with lots of apps. First like to comment that I love the Inspire, HTC has made an amazing phone. I have been going back and forth on whether to root all day (I have an extra kingston 2gb in front of me to make my goldcard). It seems there are still problems with the root since the Inspire is new, and AT&T is just started offering android. I don't mind following step by step instructions, as I have seen provided by many amazing developers. However, I do mind if my phone is buggy and screen locks constantly. I really do want to unleash this thing with my grandfathered unlimited data plan, but I have never held a rooted android phone let alone a rooted Inspire. How is the rooting compatible with the inspire on AT&T? I've seen locked screens and other bugs in recent posts and am unsure if I should root, suggestions appreciated.

Honestly its up to you. I have done nothing, but experiment and make boot animations which I flash probably about 10 times a day. If you like the phone as it is then don't root. If you want to have control of the phone and do what you want ie. custom roms with overclocking cpu, better battery life, (eng s-off) flash new radios that have better reception and battery life, custom boot animations... the list goes on. It is entirely up to you. Only you can decide if customizing and altering your phone is worth it.

Well that is my entire goal, I wanna get a better battery, reception, tether to my unlimited, and eliminate blockbuster!!!!! i hate that app. But yea I do want that control, but my point is how are these programs running as of now for Inspire? The patches to run other phones is great and has been well developed, but Inspire isn't a month old. What are ROMs running like, and has there been enough debugging to make rooting workable now?

If I am speaking for me, these rom's are working really well. The inspire may only be a month old but the Desire HD has been out for quite a while and almost all of the roms are based on the desire platform. From all the roms I have tried which is all of the ones in this dev section, the only ones I have found major bugs with are the CM7 ones, the other ones are pretty much the stock roms that are optimized.

I would root it. I followed the directions to the letter and flashed CM7...no issues at all except a few CM bugs. The speed alone is worth it.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Definitely root, the advantages are too long to list.
Be bold and take full control of your purchase.

Root it
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But you'll lose Blockbuster and the Asphalt game!!!
ROOT IT!!!

Gonna root
I'm doing it....still problems with making my goldcard. Downloaded SDK, and trying to get ADB to work now. Having some trouble here though, any advice?

Hmmm.. I can't think of a reason not to root

snd5014 said:
I'm doing it....still problems with making my goldcard. Downloaded SDK, and trying to get ADB to work now. Having some trouble here though, any advice?
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i would recommend using attn1s hack kit. follow the readme step by step. if you have issues, visit the link in my sig.

root it!
never going back

New Inspire

Hey y'all, I'm originally a forum poster on [H]ard Forums and I just got the new HTC Inspire. I've been hearing all about rooting and roming phones and I'm thinking about doing it. Problem is, I don't know much about it. I was thinking about doing it not only for the free apps but so I could completely customize my UI. If y'all could give me the pros and cons and possibly directing me to what I need or should do to root my phone I would like to know. This is my first Smart phone so I'm very interested in this process.

Xenomaniac said:
Hey y'all, I'm originally a forum poster on [H]ard Forums and I just got the new HTC Inspire. I've been hearing all about rooting and roming phones and I'm thinking about doing it. Problem is, I don't know much about it. I was thinking about doing it not only for the free apps but so I could completely customize my UI. If y'all could give me the pros and cons and possibly directing me to what I need or should do to root my phone I would like to know. This is my first Smart phone so I'm very interested in this process.
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Probably the best way to root your phone is the inspire hack kit. Its easy to follow and there is a ton of support for it.
The main pros are free wifi tether, side loading enabled, hsupa enabled, and tons of mods.
The cons would be if you have to take it back to att you will have to go through an unrooted process. Its not to hard but still a hassle. I can honestly stay rooted is the best way to really enjoy your phone.
Stock look
ClearD rom. Ive tried it and I haven't had any problems with it.
TPC Rom. Its stock with an over clocked kernel
DHD Rom
Android Revolution is fast and stable stock look
RCMix HD fast and stable and made with transparency.
These are the ones Ive used and they all work.
Have fun with your phone.

klquicksall said:
Probably the best way to root your phone is the inspire hack kit. Its easy to follow and there is a ton of support for it.
The main pros are free wifi tether, side loading enabled, hsupa enabled, and tons of mods.
The cons would be if you have to take it back to att you will have to go through an unrooted process. Its not to hard but still a hassle. I can honestly stay rooted is the best way to really enjoy your phone.
Stock look
ClearD rom. Ive tried it and I haven't had any problems with it.
TPC Rom. Its stock with an over clocked kernel
DHD Rom
Android Revolution is fast and stable stock look
RCMix HD fast and stable and made with transparency.
These are the ones Ive used and they all work.
Have fun with your phone.
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Did you reflash the radio on any of these Roms? I am rooted and about to try some Roms but don't really want to deal with flashing radios.

bmolloy said:
Did you reflash the radio on any of these Roms? I am rooted and about to try some Roms but don't really want to deal with flashing radios.
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Why not? Its really easy. Check the development threads. No need for eng s-off.
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bmolloy said:
Did you reflash the radio on any of these Roms? I am rooted and about to try some Roms but don't really want to deal with flashing radios.
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I have used both the recommend radio for the roms and the att raido. They all work fine.

I'm thinking about making my own UI interface using photoshop and creating a launch as well. Is it something that is really easy to do? I'm a big Aliens fan (H.R. Giger, not that ****ty AvP movie bull****) and would love to make a custom UI or at least make sounds for when I press a button (thinking about when I shut down hearing Hudson saying "that's it man, game over man game over!")
I'm probably getting way ahead of myself seeing that I'm still new to all of this.

Which is the best rom or are they all essentially the same?

What has been your experience with rooting your Sensation?

I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?

I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk

johnny0313x said:
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!

Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom

No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.

Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

johnny0313x said:
occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.

I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it

EddyOS said:
The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....

I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746

Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!

Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.

gustav30 said:
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers

We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually

just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g

[Q] Why should i root?

I loved rooting my g1 and my mytouch slide 3g but i'm not sure if it's worth it with the sensation. i think the phone is great with the stock software and since it's already on 2.3.4, what are the benefits? it even has screen shot built in :/
please help!

The only thing that has me ever so slightly interested in rooting, is the Amaze camera mod, however I'm more inclined to sit tight and wait for an official update.

Having a Recovery based Backup through CWM and being able to backup with Titanium might be useful.
Also useful if you like removing bloatware.
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Mind you the phone works well as standard, so YMMV.

I like to root to have the newest updates.
In Swiss we had the problem that many branded Sensations had call problems (call aborted after one minute). A friend of mine had this problem, I with my rooted sensation not. So I rooted her device and flashed the newest Radio rom and the problem was gone...
You can also use the leaked Sense 3.5 Roms with a rooted phone ;-)

Look through all the threads in the development section and see all the things which you WONT get if you stay unrooted, all the things which you will miss out on, rooting gives you the ability to use programs which need lower level access than others, simply put you are missing out on a lot of features if you do not root, but hey no one has a gun to your head so make up your own mind, personally i find the whole rooting process worthwhile so i can flash custom roms and make my phone a better device to use.
The sensation on stock is a slow and underpar phone which could have been great, let down only by rushed development and poor handling of the code, if you flash a rom cooked up by one of XDA's dev's then you will see a huge difference in terms of performance and looks, there simply is no comparison.

Not rooted is like a computer but you are the user. While the rooted phone it acts like you are the admin you can do whatever you want to your precious phone.
Sent from my HTC Sensation with Beats

I agree with all above.
I've rooted every android phone i've ever had, starting from the original desire.
It enables you to tinker with, and improve, on so many things. I also had incredible heat with my sensation on stock. I rooted it and it stopped.
I wouldn't even ponder the thought of keeping an android phone stock anymore.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e with Beats Audio using xda premium

But again if you need to ask...you No need to root
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