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So I'll be coming from a S***sung Craptivate after it killed its own memory, resulting in not having enough room to load a back-up or a fresh ROM after a full wipe. (Phone is actually in two pieces, divided straight across the center) I had the phone flashed with a rooted deodexed and lagfixed ROM (Paragon RC6) and undervolted and stock clock speed (1ghz). I also had a different launcher, text based icons, widgetlocker, basically nothing was "stock" about it, but that was out of need, to fix the shutdown problem, the crappy GPS, the crappy sound, the crappy speed, the crappy lag.. etc etc..
I will be buying a Desire when it is back in stock locally, hopefully with tomorrow's shipment. But I have a few questions...
How much different is everything about modding this phone? I've read the guides and the stickies, and liking the Ingersol ROM (with just a battery notification mod, would like it to be white and turn red below 15% instead of the crazy colors it does.)
I only have 3 questions really... but one or more may become more. Please bare with me.
1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
You need to downgrade to get unknown sources back. HTC sense is basically a theme that designed for there phone if I'm not mistaking. The gingerbread themes here are very smooth and good. You will encounter bugs but that will always be fix from the developers
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GTIVRon said:
1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
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It only enables the exploit to get S-OFF (think recovery 2e from the Captivate, vs 3e which required signed update.zip's). Once done, you don't have to worry about it again. There are plenty of stock based ROM's like TPC or dilligaf for you to choose from if you so desire.
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
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Sense is more than the launcher, it is a complete rework of the Android framework, like TouchWiz, but nowhere near as craptacular. It is actually useful. Any HTC sourced ROM will originally have Sense in it, but some HTC ROM's that say "no-sense" have a good chunk of that removed and are more like AOSP Android, but not quite all the way. Then there are other ROM's like CyanogenMod, which are based on actual Google AOSP code and have NO HTC software in them. It really is your choice which to use. I tend to flip between them. My personal favorites are CM7 and RCMixHD 5.9.4. I would flash them both to see what your preference is.
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
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They work perfectly, with only the minorest of troubles that tend to be app specific, like the Gmail word wrap issue(which is not even a big deal at all). I haven't used a Froyo ROM in weeks.
And finally, welcome from another former Craptivate user! You will be MUCH happier with this phone.
Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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The only thing about sense that really eats battery is the constant data usage of the HTC sense account, if you don't set up an account, your battery life should be rather good. As far as the gb roms they are all working very well, and you will find a small bug here and there, but all the major roms are very good daily drivers.
Most of the roms here have numorous tweaks for stability and snappiness, and you would probably be pleased with any of the major ones. I would say there is more difference between stock sense and tweaked sense than tweaked sense and no sense as far as performance goes. I ran stock for all of a few hours when I got this phone, and have been on a few roms with and without sense, and all of them have been very snappy and smooth.
Any of the major roms that support clock speed adjustments will use setcpu to adjust it, you can run at basically any speed setcpu lets you(within reason, and check the rom post for exceptions and recomendations) I currently run at a maximum of 1.5ghz on miui and my battery life is just as good as it was running 1.2ghz on android revolution.
And last but not least, don't be afraid of gingerbread here, most major bugs have been worked out and 90% of the problems posted about are due to the installer, not the rom.
Welcome aboard!
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Just an add on note:
Gingerbread sense ROMs do not have overclocking right now. But really they are so butter smooth especially when compared to a captivate. RCMix5.9.3 has no compatibility issues I have found.
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Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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XAviierG said:
Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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id10terrordfw said:
MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
XAviierG said:
Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yes they are. 2.3.3.
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XAviierG said:
Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Haha yeah I do post a bit. IM always on my phone and its just everything going on and I try to make It simple. Once again thanks for putting that all out
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
It all depends what theme goes with you.
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Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
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I've gotten better performance out of the GB ROMs I have used. I believe that ROM is based off the leaked GB for the Desire HD which is the same thing as the Inspire, so you shouldn't have any worries about it not being designed for this phone.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Yea, the UD ROM is really good. I've been on it for the past week or so and it is running like a champ. Making it really hard to switch to something else.
Which is better MIUI ROM or CYNOGEN ROM or NSCOLLAB?????
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They all have their good points and not so good points. Try them all and see YOURSELF which one you will like.
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Which is better MIUI ROM or CYNOGEN ROM or NSCOLLAB?????
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If u want performance and really good battery life go with nscollab. If u want nightly updates go with cm7 if u want performance and eye candy go with miui. I bounce around nscollab and miui. Best roms in my opinion. I would also recommend tsm pool party. Great rom.?
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If u want performance and really good battery life go with nscollab. If u want nightly updates go with cm7 if u want performance and eye candy go with miui. I bounce around nscollab and miui. Best roms in my opinion. I would also recommend tsm pool party. Great rom.?
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did u make any changes to nscollab rom, like a different kernel or voltage changes .. or r u getting good battery life with the default settings ?
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did u make any changes to nscollab rom, like a different kernel or voltage changes .. or r u getting good battery life with the default settings ?
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I didn't change anything left it the way it was.
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If u want performance and really good battery life go with nscollab. If u want nightly updates go with cm7 if u want performance and eye candy go with miui. I bounce around nscollab and miui. Best roms in my opinion. I would also recommend tsm pool party. Great rom.?
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not to confuse the OP even though CM has a nightly everyday not does mean theres an update or anything
Flash yourself and try em bith
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Flash yourself and try em bith
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Just not in public
As a user of all 3 roms, here are my thoughts.
Nightly flashes are cool because you get to see new updates , but there is a higher chance things will berak as they are not tested much.
NScollab is updated slowly, but it was really stable for me when i used it, so when i wanted to use my phone as a.. err, phone? I used NScollab.
Right now i am on MIUI Brainmasers edition, and it is perfect for me.
It gets weekly updates with a nice clean changelog (CM7 Changelog anyone? :O) and they are usually pretty stable.
The UI change is refreshing, nto to mention extra hidden features (prox support, map static ip address to network etc)
I bounce back and forth between MIUI weeklies and CM7 nightlies. Right now I'm on CM7.1 #228 with either matr1x or netarchy kernels. MIUI looks really nice, and is CM based, so I guess it's basically the same under the hood.
i've tried miui, both the official and brainmaster's mod (which is definitely the better of the two), both savage and deck's roms, pete's rom, cyanogen, and oxygen. . .
and i have to say i'm severely disappointed that i only recently found out about a little hidden gem called carbon. i say hidden because i check these forums regularly and never saw any mention of it until this past sunday. if you've never run it, you'll be pleased that you did.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?3945-ROM-Carbon-CO2-Edition-(v1.1)-Oxygen-ICS-Mix-AOSP
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i've tried miui, both the official and brainmaster's mod (which is definitely the better of the two), both savage and deck's roms, pete's rom, cyanogen, and oxygen. . .
and i have to say i'm severely disappointed that i only recently found out about a little hidden gem called carbon. i say hidden because i check these forums regularly and never saw any mention of it until this past sunday. if you've never run it, you'll be pleased that you did.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?3945-ROM-Carbon-CO2-Edition-(v1.1)-Oxygen-ICS-Mix-AOSP
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CarbonCO2 = Oxygen 2.3.1 with ICS theme.
I use CarbonCO2 because I like the blue battery and status bar icons, and all the other theme-ing. You won't find a ROM more stable than Oxygen/Carbon and they have a great balance of performance, battery life and features. Your phone will not reboot or freeze.
I highly recommend MIUI (esp. Brainmaster's MOD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181050) with morfic's Trinity Kernel.
I've been on CM7, NSCollab, and a handful of other ROMs, and ended up with MIUI. Usually, I found MIUI to be a tad slower than other roms, but for some reason, Brainmaster's seems super snappy.
However, all of the above are super-duper well made roms. And it'd probably be best for you to try em all, just to see how amazing all of these devs are
I'm giving my Nexus S to teh wife, and I'm wondering which ROM I should put on it? I'm using Kalimchoaz CM9 Kang, but I wonder if it's too complex for her. Don't really want her mucking around in low level settings.
Looking for a a stable, low maintenance ROM, with excellent battery life and no crashes. She mostly uses for text, phone, contacts and facebook. Very little browsing. Facebook contact sync is a plus.
I tried Brainmaster's stock ICS but it was slower than the AOSP kangs.
Any suggestions?
peter alfonso bugless beast ics found here http://download.peteralfonso.com/
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peter alfonso bugless beast ics found here http://download.peteralfonso.com/
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^^^^^^
This. Peter Alfonso makes the most stable roms I've ever ran on my phone.
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Peter Alfonso; close to stock with a snappy feel and very stable.
CM9 v1.1: more advanced but very stable for daily use.
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Peter Alfonso; close to stock with a snappy feel and very stable.
CM9 v1.1: more advanced but very stable for daily use.
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Any of them have facebook contact sync?
yup petes rom does
Gummynex rom. Best battery life yet on ics. Using matr1x v15.0 too.
Best combo out there.
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yup petes rom does
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Am I missing something? No facebook contact sync from what I see. I tried 22/1/2012 version.
I run Apex on my Glaxy Nexus and it supports the feature.
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Am I missing something? No facebook contact sync from what I see. I tried 22/1/2012 version.
I run Apex on my Glaxy Nexus and it supports the feature.
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Gummynex has it.
yes go with gummy nex with matrix kernel u won't regret it.
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+1 for Peters. Got tired of a buggy ics roms and am very pleased!
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I ran Nexus-Beam for a while, it worked well and was mostly stock. No real issues to speak of, only changed because I was looking for more customization.
I just picked up the Skyrocket just wondering what ever one is using
Skyrocketeer w/faux123's Kernal + Launcher Pro Launcher. Works very well. Just waiting on ICS.
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Sky Ice Cream Rom. Deeply themed Rom with most tweaks for our rocket with Faux123's kernel.
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Sky Ice Cream Rom. Deeply themed Rom with most tweaks for our rocket with Faux123's kernel.
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gave you thanks by mistake, but Ive seen you give good help elsewhere, your welcome
Well I do help the Community and I will be doing as much as i can in future too
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gave you thanks by mistake, but Ive seen you give good help elsewhere, your welcome
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I use sky ICS with the faux kernel... excellent battery life, looks and runs good that would be my recommendation to you.
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another vote for sky ICS. Nexus is nice as well, but less themed.
I have been using SkyStocketeer, but since it hasn't been updated in awhile I swapped over to Bouyancy.
Very very pleased with this one so far. Stable and quite speedy for me.
im using nexusmod 2.0 currently it works like a champ i have yet to have a FC on it. Very Stable Very Fast and my battery life has been good.
Nexusmod 2.0 as well.
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currently using NexusM0D v2.0
waiting for NexusM0D v2.1 or buoyancy 1.3.1
I am currently using SkyICS RC7 with Faux123's kernel..
pretty good.. fast. i get some jitter when i scroll through some menus (i.e. my call log), battery life is pretty good as well..
I had NexusMOD2.0 with faux123 installed.. i liked this one too.. very stable, never one FC (in 2 weeks of using it) and battery life was AMAZING!!
the only reason i switched is cause i like trying new things, and GO Launcher EX didn't run as smooth on the nexusMod 2.0 ROM..
Im new to andriod and got a skyrocket a month ago, and now i love the ability to switch between roms. currently running SkyICS rc7 with Faux kernel. very fast and have little issues with it but im addicted to flashing and will probably change soon so many great roms to choose from thanks for everyones hard work
Which Stock Rom is best Performance for Nexus S?
Android Gingerbread 2.3.6
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Android Ice Cream Sandwich
I'd like to know too
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Easy for me!! Codename android --> ics 4.0.3!!
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I can't really say much about stock since ics isn't out yet for i9020, but I definitely prefer custom gingerbread over custom ics. OXYGEN has been fast and rock stable for me, whereas all the ics roms I've tried have given me short battery life and many crashes.
I definitely prefer the appearance and functions of ics though
How can i flash oxygen rom? Im from ics. i9023
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How can i flash oxygen rom? Im from ics. i9023
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Here are the links.
OXYGEN Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285243
I'm also using the latest Lynx kernel with Oxygen (franco's is quite stable too):
Lynx Kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455395
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Easy for me!! Codename android --> ics 4.0.3!!
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Just wanna ask because I have Codename 1.4 rom on my nexus s too. Do you have the problem in camera mode, when you want to use silly face effect? I can't use it.
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Here are the links.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285243
I'm also using the latest Lynx kernel with Oxygen (franco's is quite stable too):
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what base versiom should i use? Wat gingerbread version
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thats easy
ICS without any doubt. The phone feels a lot faster, my battery life is better in ICS then in GB, ICS is polished and beautiful, some new apps only work on android 4.0, the new OS has some good built in functions, like 3G data monitor, you can now make panoramas without a 3rd app, etc.
If looking at stock roms, then ICS for sure. Much more efficient usage of RAM, multi-tasking which allows me to close out apps I have open. It looks clean and nice color scheme. Also Holo (font) is freaking awesome. The new ICS widgets are also nice. Calendar and gmail have been improved.
I haven't played around with the various ICS ROMs yet to compare those.
GB. ICS is slow opening apps. Also the transitions look more polished but at the expense of snappiness. I flashed back to GB stock to do some things on the phone and I am noticing how fast GB is.
I would say ICS (not stock). Currently running nuhetri v3.0.1 with AirKernel with voodoo colors and I definitely like it more than GB. No problems with this ROM and it has a great performance and battery life.
But the question is about the stock roms, not the customs roms....
For me is GB, is more faster and don´t have so many lag...
It's kind of weird that a lot of people are saying that GB is a lot faster than ICS. At least on my experience, ICS is much more fast and smooth compared to GB.
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It's kind of weird that a lot of people are saying that GB is a lot faster than ICS. At least on my experience, ICS is much more fast and smooth compared to GB.
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Could be my Radio version....
I will test later with others to see if it resolves
i have CM 9 version 3. I like it. Its beautiful looks is a big thing for me . performance wise... there is a little "lag" but think about everything else you get from ICS. i dont mind it at all .
4.04
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes...
Whatever stock or customed
ICS is much better
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