I Have finally busted the myth of infamous battery that hang at 100% until you reboot the phone. Some said it's the lower amped chargers, an issue with battery, and issue with the cable, charging dock or a wild combiantion of all, but i can confirm that it's none of that.
I've done many tests in the past 2 weeks, looked at many threads, solutions, suggestions. I've been able to isolate the problem to ONE variable using a bunch of test with stock batteries, andida batteries, stock chargers, charging docks, stock cables or other cables.
I've had a 2nd skyrocket for about a week because i called up rogers to have my battery exchanged and the only way they could do that was if they send me the entire phone and i would just take out the battery and send the rest back. In any case, i've taked that second skyrocket and made a different bunch of tests with both phone.
My conclusion: It has nothing to do with the battery, charger or cable, the only culprit is BATTERY CALIBRATION. Every time i installed a new rom or flashed back to stock, the problem was absent UNTIL i recalibrated the battery. From that point, every time i would charge to 100%, the battery would hang at 100%. I've tried this at least 5 times, on both stock and custom roms, stock and andida battery, on 2 skyrockets, and every single time the problem appeared was ONLY after calibrating the battery.
Now that we know this, is there a patch that can be made for this? or an update to the actual app?
polish_pat said:
I Have finally busted the myth of infamous battery that hang at 100% until you reboot the phone. Some said it's the lower amped chargers, an issue with battery, and issue with the cable, charging dock or a wild combiantion of all, but i can confirm that it's none of that.
I've done many tests in the past 2 weeks, looked at many threads, solutions, suggestions. I've been able to isolate the problem to ONE variable using a bunch of test with stock batteries, andida batteries, stock chargers, charging docks, stock cables or other cables.
I've had a 2nd skyrocket for about a week because i called up rogers to have my battery exchanged and the only way they could do that was if they send me the entire phone and i would just take out the battery and send the rest back. In any case, i've taked that second skyrocket and made a different bunch of tests with both phone.
My conclusion: It has nothing to do with the battery, charger or cable, the only culprit is BATTERY CALIBRATION. Every time i installed a new rom or flashed back to stock, the problem was absent UNTIL i recalibrated the battery. From that point, every time i would charge to 100%, the battery would hang at 100%. I've tried this at least 5 times, on both stock and custom roms, stock and andida battery, on 2 skyrockets, and every single time the problem appeared was ONLY after calibrating the battery.
Now that we know this, is there a patch that can be made for this? or an update to the actual app?
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I am glad this has fixed your problem, but those of us that have spent hours and days troubleshooting this have found it does not correct the issue for everyone..
I can still duplicate the issue in any combination, as mentioned in the other thread, on two phones, 8 cables, 7 batteries now, and 4 power blocks
As also mentioned in the other thread, running the battery calibration app does not resolve the issue in ANY of my testing.
As we concluded in the other thread, there are multiple causes for this issue. Yours is obviously cured by running the calibration app.
00mred00 said:
I am glad this has fixed your problem, but those of us that have spent hours and days troubleshooting this have found it does not correct the issue for everyone..
I can still duplicate the issue in any combination, as mentioned in the other thread, on two phones, 8 cables, 7 batteries now, and 4 power blocks
As also mentioned in the other thread, running the battery calibration app does not resolve the issue in ANY of my testing.
As we concluded in the other thread, there are multiple causes for this issue. Yours is obviously cured by running the calibration app.
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Did I misread? I thought the OP said the battery calibration was the culprit, not the cure.
00mred00 said:
I am glad this has fixed your problem, but those of us that have spent hours and days troubleshooting this have found it does not correct the issue for everyone..
I can still duplicate the issue in any combination, as mentioned in the other thread, on two phones, 8 cables, 7 batteries now, and 4 power blocks
As also mentioned in the other thread, running the battery calibration app does not resolve the issue in ANY of my testing.
As we concluded in the other thread, there are multiple causes for this issue. Yours is obviously cured by running the calibration app.
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please take the time to read the thread before posting. You have got it VERY wrong!
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Did I misread? I thought the OP said the battery calibration was the culprit, not the cure.
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Exactly, battery calibration is the cause of this. If you dont believe me, restore to stock, and dont calibrate, you will NEVER get the hang problem. I've tried, 5 times, every time the problem was consistent with calibrating the battery
ok gotcha..but in my testing , restoring back to stock and NOT calibrating the battery had no effect either...it still stuck....
so what now lol
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please take the time to read the thread before posting. You have got it VERY wrong!
Exactly, battery calibration is the cause of this. If you dont believe me, restore to stock, and dont calibrate, you will NEVER get the hang problem. I've tried, 5 times, every time the problem was consistent with calibrating the battery
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how did you restore to stock?
polish_pat said:
how did you restore to stock?
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odin, stock recoveries..trust me, we tried it.
I am glad you fixed YOUR problem, but it does not solve the general issue. Hell, a number of people having the issue are stock, and can't even run the calibration.
just for the hell of it I am going to do it all over again tomorrow, though I have spent more time on the subject than I care to at this point.
it worked 5 times on 2 different phone... both with stock and andida extended battery
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it worked 5 times on 2 different phone... both with stock and andida extended battery
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I am not saying it didn't work for you...just that it isn't a fix all, just as the "turn on all power saving functions" isn't a fix all.
trust me, I would love to be wrong, but I am not. Not only can a reproduce the issue, but it affects stock phones as well. Battery calibration requires root...so it isn't a factor in those cases.
Man, you guys have really bad luck.
I reflash at 100%, recalibrate, everything constantly, it'll never hang.
That's really weird. :/
As with everyone other post, this is simply one scenario... I think I can speak for most of us in that, we have all found (in most cases) a situation/setup in which we can prevent the issue, in my case I have multiple batteries and 3 phones and having "matched" a battery to each phone that has resolved my problem. I've yet to see the issue in weeks testing MANY scenarios.
Battery calibration has absolutely nothing to do with whether I seen the issue or not.
Yeah rather than arguing back and forth a post with each viable solution would make sense
RiPpeR_dUdE said:
As with everyone other post, this is simply one scenario... I think I can speak for most of us in that, we have all found (in most cases) a situation/setup in which we can prevent the issue, in my case I have multiple batteries and 3 phones and having "matched" a battery to each phone that has resolved my problem. I've yet to see the issue in weeks testing MANY scenarios.
Battery calibration has absolutely nothing to do with whether I seen the issue or not.
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I don't know if i'm the only person in the world with this issue, but i've searched all over and have had no luck at all finding a solution or an answer to this. My Xoom works perfectly, except for only one thing, it turns off when the battery reaches 4%, instead of the normal battery level which would be 0% for any other device. Is my battery damaged?
PS- I've calibrated the battery many times and i've used many roms, so i'm taking those two things out of the "Possible Causes List". I would greatly appreciate any help in the matter since that 4% represents cherished time i could be spending with my tablet.
ive had similar problems (anywhere from 2-8%) not sure what to do about it. i assumed it was standard
rubber guard said:
ive had similar problems (anywhere from 2-8%) not sure what to do about it. i assumed it was standard
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sadly, no, it isn't standard, i have bought 4 Xooms more and neither of them have had this problem... the frustrating things is that MY Xoom is the one with the problem... couldn't it had been one of the others? lol
Last night I made a backup, used the nullifier, flashed rooted 2.3.4, and everything went haywire. I had lost all my nandroids and all that. Ok so then I decided to put the phone back to factory stock and did the OTA update to 2.3.4, then rooted with superoneclick. I have an extended 3500mah battery that I calibrated this morning after a full charge. Everything was normal so far today (i was at around 70%) and restarted my phone for some reason or another and realized that when i do this the battery reads 100% again. I like accurate battery readings, anybody know how and why this might be happening?
More then likely from a poor quality after market battery. Battery "calibration" is a myth. Most phones will read any battery as 100% when it first boots. All of my phones do it even with stock batteries even my nexus.
I personally know how to wipe my own device and so should anyone who installs roms on their device. You shouldn't depend on a script to do that for you especially if you do not understand the functionality of that script. If something says "format" it means everything is gone. If it says formats all partitions that means all data on all partitions is gone. If your backups are in that partition then they are gone. Nothings going haywire it did what its supposed to do.
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My question was about the battery, an answer only about the battery would have been sufficient.
Battery is not poor quality. It consistently gives me 2 days of charge since December.
Calibrating my battery is something that I do because I like to have accurate readings. I know what calibration is supposed to do and what it doesn't do. I'm aware that it doesn't give the battery more juice.
I know how to flash a rom and I know what the scripts do. I know how to wipe and I know why it's necessary. I did nothing any differently than I've done countless times before. Sometimes things just don't work right. Not that any of this even matters because the question was about the battery readings behaving in a way they haven't before. The rest was only mentioned in case it had some bearing on the cause of the problem.
I guess it's back to not posting a word on here until I'm done being disgusted with the way users attempt to "help" one another. Ugh.
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Are you using the stock kernel?
I think something about nvflashing has a weird impact on battery. I nvflashed the touch recovery a few days ago, and afterwards I was sure I had about 35% left, but battery read 80. I plugged it in and while it charged, the number kept going down till it met the actual battery reading (around 65%) then started charging back up.
e4e5nf3nc6 said:
My question was about the battery, an answer only about the battery would have been sufficient.
Battery is not poor quality. It consistently gives me 2 days of charge since December.
Calibrating my battery is something that I do because I like to have accurate readings. I know what calibration is supposed to do and what it doesn't do. I'm aware that it doesn't give the battery more juice.
I know how to flash a rom and I know what the scripts do. I know how to wipe and I know why it's necessary. I did nothing any differently than I've done countless times before. Sometimes things just don't work right. Not that any of this even matters because the question was about the battery readings behaving in a way they haven't before. The rest was only mentioned in case it had some bearing on the cause of the problem.
I guess it's back to not posting a word on here until I'm done being disgusted with the way users attempt to "help" one another. Ugh.
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Lol well I answered with my thoughts and responses. If you don't want answers don't ask questions. And don't get butt-hurt when someone answers for you. Exactly why I don't usually answer questions in these threads. Just too many emos when you give a straight answer. If you can't handle educated answers don't ask uneducated questions....
Bottom line how does it read with the stock battery? Almost every extended battery I've seen is missing sensors. So yes I'd say those ate ALL poor quality
What is the brand of said battery?
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Over the time that I've owned my GS3, I've finally began to notice that it takes longer and longer to charge my S3 and it discharges pretty quickly too. Anyone have a solution to this?
NOTE: I've pulled my battery already, wiped the cache and dalvik cache, reflashed my ROM twice, flashed 3 different ROMs (which were known for battery life and let them settle for 2 days), fixed permissions, etc. I even wiped my battery stats in case that was the issue too. Still takes about 4 hours to charge my phone through a wall outlet.
david_hume said:
Over the time that I've owned my GS3, I've finally began to notice that it takes longer and longer to charge my S3 and it discharges pretty quickly too. Anyone have a solution to this?
NOTE: I've pulled my battery already, wiped the cache and dalvik cache, reflashed my ROM twice, flashed 3 different ROMs (which were known for battery life and let them settle for 2 days), fixed permissions, etc. I even wiped my battery stats in case that was the issue too. Still takes about 4 hours to charge my phone through a wall outlet.
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Try an alternate charger?
I've noticed this as well as much as I charge my phone it will never charge anymore while using it, instead I'll lose battery little by little. I'm starting to thinking it's either the phone getting old of the battery or the mf1 rpm but if someone has mb1 and can confirm that it happens to them as well then that's knocked off.
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Addiso said:
I've noticed this as well as much as I charge my phone it will never charge anymore while using it, instead I'll lose battery little by little. I'm starting to thinking it's either the phone getting old of the battery or the mf1 rpm but if someone has mb1 and can confirm that it happens to them as well then that's knocked off.
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I thought I was the only one with the battery draining issue. Lol. I think it's just the phone. I'm using the MK1 modem and it never happened in the past and now Ir's beginning to happen to me.
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Same thing happened to me.I wiped the internal card and did a clean flash of liquid smooth and it charges just fine and discharges normally,I do have the zerolemon
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Finally found the cause of the problem. It wasn't the cable, but rather the connector that had the issue. I tried a connector from an LG phone (don't know which model) and it's charging my phone perfectly fine now. Mods, please lock this thread because the problem's been solved.
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Over the time that I've owned my GS3, I've finally began to notice that it takes longer and longer to charge my S3 and it discharges pretty quickly too. Anyone have a solution to this?
NOTE: I've pulled my battery already, wiped the cache and dalvik cache, reflashed my ROM twice, flashed 3 different ROMs (which were known for battery life and let them settle for 2 days), fixed permissions, etc. I even wiped my battery stats in case that was the issue too. Still takes about 4 hours to charge my phone through a wall outlet.
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Batteries don;t last forever, you failed to mention how old your device is, but a Lion battery has about max, 500 cycles before its garbage. It may not die all at once, they start deteriorating and lose capacity an start to get hot when they charge. Batteries are cheap. If yours is getting old and tired, Try a new one.
There are also some apps out there that can tell you the condition of your battery.
DigitalMD said:
Batteries don;t last forever, you failed to mention how old your device is, but a Lion battery has about max, 500 cycles before its garbage. It may not die all at once, they start deteriorating and lose capacity an start to get hot when they charge. Batteries are cheap. If yours is getting old and tired, Try a new one.
There are also some apps out there that can tell you the condition of your battery.
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If it really matters, the phone itself is around a year old at this point in time. Normally, I would accept that to be the case, except I've seen reports of the S3s having charging problems due to something that has to do with the charger.
Problem's already been solved though. Switched my OEM Samsung charging adaptor with an LG one and it's all good (still using the stock Samsung cable though since there no problem with it)
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Two weeks ago my phone started only charging from 10-15%. I figured it was the battery so I ordered a new one. I had the same issue with the new battery. I have tried 4 different roms with a combo of 3 different radios. I have an external battery charger and have tried charging the batteries in it then placing them in the phone. It will only read 7% charge. I have tried deep sleep apps and all other suggestions found on here. Any ideas on what else could be causing this issue?
Odin to stock and see if the problem persists. If it does, then idk.
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Odin to stock and see if the problem persists. If it does, then idk.
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Tried it.
Hey guys, so I'm having a really odd issue with my batteries.
When I'm charging any of them they go to 60-70% really fast and then slow down to a crawl. Then if I reboot at that point it says it's full! WTH?
I changed ROMs, bought a new battery, wiped Battery stats multiple times, it still happens! It even seems to do it on different chargers. (Though I'm not 100% sure about the chargers)
And my sister who's running a totally different setup on her Sensation (we share batteries) reported she was experiencing similar issues using our portable charger as well. I don't know what's going on.
Any ideas? It's really annoying.
Electriccars said:
Hey guys, so I'm having a really odd issue with my batteries.
When I'm charging any of them they go to 60-70% really fast and then slow down to a crawl. Then if I reboot at that point it says it's full! WTH?
I changed ROMs, bought a new battery, wiped Battery stats multiple times, it still happens! It even seems to do it on different chargers. (Though I'm not 100% sure about the chargers)
And my sister who's running a totally different setup on her Sensation (we share batteries) reported she was experiencing similar issues using our portable charger as well. I don't know what's going on.
Any ideas? It's really annoying.
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there is nothing wrong
htc's issue in his devices when rooting then
i have also percentage misreadings
nothing to afraid
also wipe battery stats is just a myth
rzr86 said:
there is nothing wrong
htc's issue in his devices when rooting then
i have also percentage misreadings
nothing to afraid
also wipe battery stats is just a myth
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But I've had the phone for over a year and I've never noticed it before? :-\
Electriccars said:
But I've had the phone for over a year and I've never noticed it before? :-\
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most users reported that thing after rooting their device
some said that it is htc's issue and it is still unfixable
it happened to me too
maybe it doesn't happen immediately
i don't know mate
rzr86 said:
most users reported that thing after rooting their device
some said that it is htc's issue and it is still unfixable
it happened to me too
maybe it doesn't happen immediately
i don't know mate
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Hmm. Okay, thanks. I guess it's not THAT big a deal if many are experiencing the same. Thanks!