[Q] Front camera to USB port possible? - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
My previous tablet was Advent Vega - Tegra 2 device, with VegaComb port of HC.
I remember that someone posted on MoDaCo forum instructions how to hook up USB hub to internal camera port. I've been wondering is it something like that possible with Transformer.
I realise that both devices are different and I never opened my TF to peek inside, so I just ask generally if anyone more experienced with hardware mods could take a look on this?
I know that I can buy official adaptor but it is quite bulky and it can be a bit loose, especially with pendrive plugged in. I can live without front camera if I'll get USB port instead, hopefully quite cheap and mounted internally...
Sorry, can't post links - please google original thread on MoDaCo by
343715-mod-usb-connection-avaliable-from-internal-camera-port
Thanks in advance for any answer

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Usb Host?

I am currently trying to get usb host functions to work on my pro (if it is even possible). I am wondering if anyone has some info about this that would point me in the right direction. I found a thread on this board from a few months ago about how to make the usb cable needed. I was specifically wondering if anyone has the drivers and other files needed to make this work. Ultimately I would like to hook my pro to an external touchscreen to create a carputer type setup.
Topic was discussed before - afair there is no such function on TP because of lack of power - with USB Host you need to provide power for device connected to TP.
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bzdziagwa said:
Topic was discussed before - afair there is no such function on TP because of lack of power - with USB Host you need to provide power for device connected to TP.
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What about using an external source of power like a usb hub?
i dont believe it's just a power issue
it's been up many many many times the last years
with pretty much all htc devices
if you got it working you'd be the first ever who made it work
on any HTC wm device apart from Athena
xxxjdoggxxx said:
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Ultimately I would like to hook my pro to an external touchscreen to create a carputer type setup.
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How 'bout using a Carputer with touchscreen, and a proggie like EveryWan ??
It may not be a solution for you, but the RedFly adds USB host functionality to the phone paired with it and it works nicely with Touch Pro.
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not possible...atleast not atm
erezshermer said:
It may not be a solution for you, but the RedFly adds USB host functionality to the phone paired with it and it works nicely with Touch Pro.
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So does redfly have usb ports? If it does this might be the solution I was looking for. If it is possible to remove the keyboard or move it out of the way and put the screen in the dash I could use something like this. I like that it uses bluetooth which means less wires to mess around with.
I don't want to give up on usb host on my pro yet though. I have read some people saying it may be possible, I even read on a message board someone saying he got it to work with a different htc phone (I don't recall which phone it was). I have also read some people saying it isn't possible.
The pro is the first smartphone I have ever owned (except for the palm centro I had for 3 weeks). I am new to windows mobile phones and am trying to figure out if people actually looked into it and say it isn't possible or just say it isn't possible without trying it. I am not claiming that it is or isn't possible I am just looking for information about it.

USB 1.1 Connector

Hi, what can i plug on the USB 1.1 connector? Hard drive, card reader, printer,...?
Thank you very much.
You can only use whatever the OS and the hardware supports.
So, a USB pen drive will work fine, as will a hard drive with its own power supply. USB powered hard drives won't work as they draw more current than the device can supply.
You can also connect USB keyboards and mice- even wireless ones work OK.
Printers probably won't work as the OS simply doesn't have the drivers installed, though a printer may work in basic emulation mode (Epson, Deskjet etc).
Cameras may connect OK- depends on the camera. My Nikon connects as it reports itself as an external drive, but my Lumix doesn't, as it needs a special driver.
Thank you very much.
Does anyone know if drivers can be added to the WM6.1 ROM for specific devices? e.g. webcams, digital cameras and digital video cameras?
Thanks.
In general the answer is no
Most developers wouldn't see the expense involved as worthwhile considering the extremely limited market. There are only a handful of WinMo devices that have USB Host capability, and of those, most users would probably not bother with anything more than USB Disk Drives.
I think most digital still cameras would be able to connect as disk drives, but video cameras would probably need a device with a much faster I/O subsystem to be able to accept the video stream.
...and I thought I could get all 'James Bond' by adding a mini web-cam to look under doors and round corners...oh well, back to using a mirror on a stick then.
thintin said:
...oh well, back to using a mirror on a stick then.
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Probably cheaper and more reliable
Not if it's anything like my last mirror, it was made by microsoft, it kept saying it wasn't compatible with the stick and then going blue!
Hello,
I have found that most bluetooth stuff works ok as well. Bluetooth mouse, keyboards,ect. I bought a great bluetooth mini keyboard with built in mouse pad like on a laptop and its first rate. I plug my athena into the telly, crash on the sofa with a beer and the keyboard. Much better than a laptop
a good rule of thumb is if it needs drivers installing it wont work on the athena. there is a thread somewhere on the Athena site listing everything that people have got to work, well worth a look.
regards
jay
That would be a good list to have. Can you tell me which Athena site it was on please? Also, which BT keyboard are you using?
Thanks, Phil.
thintin said:
That would be a good list to have. Can you tell me which Athena site it was on please? Also, which BT keyboard are you using?
Thanks, Phil.
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The keyboard is an keysonic ACK340BT, got it off ebay, and I cant remember what part the thread was, but try Athena accessories. Try searching peripherals or something like that.
Jay

[Q] Asus Transformer full size USB Challenge

One of the very few downsides to the Asus transformer is the lack of a full-sized USB port on the tablet itself. You can always purchase a dock and Asus has said that they will be selling a miniUSB >USB dongle. However, neither of these solutions is really the same as having a slot within the tablet.
I figured the folks at XDA wouldn't stand for this!
Here is my challenge. Add a full USB slot to the tablet and post instructions.
Here is how I could see this going down:
1) Someone with more hardware know-how, open up your transformer and find a physical spot in which one could place a full female USB connector with a small mounting bracket.
I haven't seen a hardware teardown yet probably due to lack of stock.
2) Figure out wiring from a full USB slot to controller. Perhaps directly splicing with the microUSB cables?
3) Either do it yourself or write up your findings and let the community try.
I think with a small dremmel tool and some pieces from radioshack we could make a pretty good mod.
What do you guys think?
I'd be interested to see someone do this, but I think 99.99% of the population would be too afraid to take a dremel to their TF considering it is about 6 mm in width at the edges. It would have to be a pretty tiny dremel. That's not considering the risk of opening it up. Then, finding the right location to solder the USB port to on the circuit board.
I think I'll wait for the dongle
The easiest would be a dock connector to USB dongle. That way, it doesn't require opening anything, just scoping the dock and how that works.
Just wait for the official solution that's my advice
For what it's worth, I bought a usb 3.0 F-F adaptor and attached it to the power cable. I then plugged in a usb memory stick. There was some activity and drivers were loaded on the Transformer, but the memory stick was not recognized.
Anyone else have any luck with this?

DIY Atrix 2 HD Dock * Updated OP*

I have had a project in mind for a few weeks now. I have been contemplating making a homemade HD dock for the Atrix 2. I know the dock is not that expensive, but I just can't justify buying one. Let me know what you guys think.
Enough positive response ill post pictures for it along the way/step by step.
EDIT: I forgot to mention but i will also try to add a powered usb hub so the phone will also be a Usb Host for External Storage, Mouse/Keyboards, and any other things we can think of.
EDIT#2: I have not abandoned you all, just ran into a busy patch with work and home life. Should anyone feel the need to give it a go by all means. Through my research it looks like the only way to create a fully working HD Dock is to modify another one designed for another Phone. I have found posts on the interwebs to suggest this. I dont believe the Webtop Will activate with just a Micro usb and Micro HDMI cable plugged in simultainously. ( Sorry for any typos )
That sounds great! Good luck with it. Please post pictures/instructions if you can.
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In for results! I agree i can't justify buying a dock too.
I about broke down and purchased a dock the other day, but now am I glad I did not, good luck, and keep us posted!!
Good luck and please do post pics.
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I was thinking about the same thing. I can't see spending the $ for a chunk of plastic with a micro usb connector in it.
It's simple to make a USB powered with OTG host capability.
Is it that what are you trying to do ?
With the hdmi cable/adaptor i think you get pretty close to a dock.
MrLLama209 said:
I have had a project in mind for a few weeks now. I have been contemplating making a homemade HD dock for the Atrix 2. I know the dock is not that expensive, but I just can't justify buying one. Let me know what you guys think.
Enough positive response ill post pictures for it along the way/step by step.
EDIT: I forgot to mention but i will also try to add a powered usb hub so the phone will also be a Usb Host for External Storage, Mouse/Keyboards, and any other things we can think of.
EDIT#2: I have not abandoned you all, just ran into a busy patch with work and home life. Should anyone feel the need to give it a go by all means. Through my research it looks like the only way to create a fully working HD Dock is to modify another one designed for another Phone. I have found posts on the interwebs to suggest this. I dont believe the Webtop Will activate with just a Micro usb and Micro HDMI cable plugged in simultainously. ( Sorry for any typos )
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I don't have any docks so I can't experiment with Webtop... however if you can hardware-wise get a DIY HD dock then I'm sure we can figure out how to patch the necessary apks to get Webtop to activate.
cogeary If you go to this Thread it is an app that tricks your phone into thinking its been connected to something that enables WEBTOP or any other dock options for that matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357600
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cogeary If you go to this Thread it is an app that tricks your phone into thinking its been connected to something that enables WEBTOP or any other dock options for that matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357600
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Oh OK, thanks... so in that case it means that in order to get a fully functional HD dock you don't have to modify an official one for a different phone, correct?
No, not technically. I was doing this project just so no extra junk had to be installed as well as the option of adding usb ports to work with webtop .

Add external usb webcam to phone?

Can you add a webcam to the charge?
Sounds kind of dumb, right? Well here is what I am thinking.
I need a inspection camera on occasion, aka snake camera. Well, they are ~300 for a decent one. So I found that they sell just a little usb camera on a flexible cable for cheap.
If I could get this to display on the Charge, that would make for a nice budget inspection camera.
So is that possible? Does the micro-usb port work like that on these phones? Or just for charging? What about the micro-hdmi?
I'm pretty sure the HDMI is output only. The USB provides a mass storage interface and a debugging interface. It *may* be possible to do something like that through the debugging interface, but it wouldn't just work...it would require some software to be written for the device, if it's possible at all. I really don't know how much info you can put through the debugging interface, so it may be a total wash.
Tiny Camera Monitor Pro
Just my take on it, If you had another Android Device (Hero, Droid orginal, etc) you could just set it up as a webcam, and see that on video stream on your Charge. You'd have to have a custom setup to get that snake cam to work. You'll have to keep digging the internet to see if anybody else has done it.
Why couldn't we be the first? The HDMI is output only, but the USB port has been used as a port for some flash drives on other devices. Google USB Host Control and USB Mass Storage for Android. Obviously, at least *some* (sarcasm) code would have to be written, and it would likely only work with that one model of camera (drivers, would be a PITA to write multiple). Also, there would be an issue of an external power source to power the camera as I don't think you could just power it from the port.
Tl;dr seems possible to me but it would take quite a bit of work, maybe more than its worth
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This really depends if the charge has usb host capabilities.
I actually kind doubt it but could be wrong, although most tablets do though.
And as far as powering the webcam you could use a self powered usb hub.
This is a issue the touchpad has and perhaps could be relevant, the touchpad had host capabilities . but can't supply enough power so some folks jimmyrigged it up.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
One could possibly get USB host support to work, but I think that it'd be difficult to get the camera to be usable on the Charge. Drivers wouldn't be the biggest issue, I would think getting the device powered and having a way to view what the camera is seeing would be a bigger problem.
imnuts said:
One could possibly get USB host support to work, but I think that it'd be difficult to get the camera to be usable on the Charge. Drivers wouldn't be the biggest issue, I would think getting the device powered and having a way to view what the camera is seeing would be a bigger problem.
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Seem like it could be possible. Seen this with cyanogenmod 9.
Type "External USB cam on Android 4.0.4 with Toshiba folio 100" into youtube
ncunning said:
Seem like it could be possible. Seen this with cyanogenmod 9.
Type "External USB cam on Android 4.0.4 with Toshiba folio 100" into youtube
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Except that the folio is a tablet and has USB host built in, meaning it can run/use devices by itself instead of just being a device. Also, the tablet has much more power to spare, while powering something like a camera on USB would kill this phone quickly.

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