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[Q] RADIOs, RILs, RUUs

Can someone please give me some knowledge for questions below? I have been using HD2 NAND for a long time, so I am aware of some stuff, but some stuff is completely new to me. I would really appreciate your help.
1) What are RILs?
2) How do I find which radio version I am running on my sensation?
3) What is RUUs? And how to find out stock one for TMO USA?
4) What is the relation between RILs and Radios?
5) Which is the stock radio for TMO USA?

Everything ur looking for is stickied in the ROM development section.
Go to settings-about-software-more
Baseband version is ur radio...whatever u have if u didn't flash anything is ur stock radio
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[Q] Looking for RUU

Folks,
I'm looking for the stock RUU for my Sensation. The current software version is 1.45.707.2.
The phone is rooted and S-off. I want to reinstall the stock recovery so that I can apply updates from HTC. Also, I want to be able to install the stock ICS update when it is released.
My phone is off-network. The CID from the "getprop ro.cid" command is HTC__044, whereas if I use "fastboot getvar all" I find my cidnumb is 11111111. It also lists my modelnumb as PG5813000.
Anyway, I'd be grateful if someone could suggest the most appropriate RUU to use with the Android Recovery Manager.

Bump please!

Can only find this one:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c09...0U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198358_signed.exe
http://uploading.com/files/3aa45ama...U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198358_signed.exe/

EddyOS said:
Can only find this one:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c09...0U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198358_signed.exe
http://uploading.com/files/3aa45ama...U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198358_signed.exe/
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Which one is for xe?
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Neither as you didn't ask for the XE one, those links are 2 places for the same 1.35.707.1 RUU

May i have the link for the xe one? And the firmware to flash and radio?
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RUUs include FW and radio so you don't need them.
Which RUU version are you looking for? There aren't many XE RUUs about

The GB version 1.73 asia wwe i think i just want to go back to my stock rom. But before i could flash that i need to lower myhboot back to 1.17
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What HBOOT are you on at the moment? If you're S-OFF and Super CID you don't need to go back
Might be worth starting your other thread as well as opposed to hijacking this one

EddyOS said:
What HBOOT are you on at the moment? If you're S-OFF and Super CID you don't need to go back
Might be worth starting your other thread as well as opposed to hijacking this one
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1.27 hboot im planning to go back to try the OTA update
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If you're S-ON then you're screwed anyway as you can't S-OFF the 1.27 HBOOT

EddyOS said:
Can only find this one:
Link1
Link2
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Thanks EddyOS for your help. Is it OK to use this as my stock ROM to get the recovery? I do want to reflach CWM once the update is installed.

Flash the RUU and you're back to 100% stock (but with S-OFF). Once you've eventually gone through the various OTA updates you'll need to flash before ICS, and the ICS OTA itself, you'll still S-OFF so you can flash CWM by using a PG58IMG.zip as you won't have a fully unlocked bootloader so fastboot commands won't work

EddyOS said:
If you're S-ON then you're screwed anyway as you can't S-OFF the 1.27 HBOOT
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Im S-off too.
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So just use any RUU to get back to stock - if you didn't make a note of your original FW before you flashed a new ROM then that's your fault

EddyOS said:
So just use any RUU to get back to stock - if you didn't make a note of your original FW before you flashed a new ROM then that's your fault
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What are the available stock gb sensation xe roms for asia? Yah its my fault..all i could remember is it is wwe asia.
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Check the Shipped ROMs thread

EddyOS said:
Check the Shipped ROMs thread
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EddyOS, i have a question, how could i downgrade my HBOOT to 1.17 and if i do, if i restore my nandroid backup of my stock gb, will i loose my root? And custom recovery? And will that restored backup contain the software version and the ruu name? Thank you very much.
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Htc crashing

Bought a Htc sensation cheap the other day as it was having a few problem. Its been rooted and as a custom ICS rom it stalled but the problems it's having is it keeps crashing,sometimes keeps looping [as in wont come on] and the battery sometimes only last about 5 hours. Is there a nooby easy easy guide to downgrade it back to Gingerbread but keep rooted

Right Firmware-Version?

dermatze2k said:
Right Firmware-Version?
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Sorry what do you mean

freddy0000 said:
Sorry what do you mean
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He means to check your firmware.
When upgrading to ICS you need to update your firmware. There's a thread by mike1986 that'll help you. You can find it in developer thread.
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pardoned said:
He means to check your firmware.
When upgrading to ICS you need to update your firmware. There's a thread by mike1986 that'll help you. You can find it in developer thread.
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Yes, you need a newer firmware that's running ICS correctly.

It as been updated to the latest firmware to run ICS but the lad I bought it off said then's when all the problems began. So I was thinking of trying to downgrading it back to gingerbread [stock or custom rom] to see if that would sort the problems out

freddy0000 said:
It as been updated to the latest firmware to run ICS but the lad I bought it off said then's when all the problems began. So I was thinking of trying to downgrading it back to gingerbread [stock or custom rom] to see if that would sort the problems out
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Have you installed a Custom Firmware or a Stock-Rom from ICS?
What firmware has you installed yet?

it was already rooted with a custom ISC rom installed So it came straight from a stock gingerbread rom to a custom ISC rom

Hello Freddy!
Have you tried to install another custom rom or re-install the one you already have? My guess is that it's not ICS that's messing with you but rather the ROM/firmware is. My tip for a rom is Ordroid (You can find it in the developer section of the sensation forum).
I don't know how experienced you are with rooting/flashing roms etc but when you go from one ROM to the other it's recommended to format the different partions (except SD-card).
Also here is a thread about different firmwares and how to install them if you don't want to change rom and just try a different firmware to see if it gets any better
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Here you have an all-in-one thread linking to different guides and fixthreads etc as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613295

How do you know if your downloading the right firmware [Unlocked UK sensation]

You can also download the latest ICS RUU. Then you will be completely stock, with the correct firmware. from there you can always try custom roms If you don't like the stock ones.
You can find the RUU's in the Pyramid Shipped Roms thread in de developers section
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Hi
I decided to try and restore it to stock gingerbread rom put am not sure what rom and firmware I will need

You van download the RUU in the Shipped roms thread, If you run the RUU then everything will be installeren, firmware, radio, rom etc.
You can find the thread in the developers section. For europe you need the RUU with RUU_PYRAMID_1.50.401.2 in it's file name.
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usually
go to the development section of htc sensation and look for virtuous or another ics and inside that same post, they will tell you which pyramid you can install, for your cellphone,

Flash a stock GB RUU so you will be putting the phone back to out of the box.Then start fresh reading all the tutorials available

am not sure which one i would need though

http://db.tt/1vf53aOI
This is a link for the 1.45 europe RUU. You can update it OTA to 1.50 to get the latest Gingerbread rom. Make sure you have the correct CID either HTC__001 or superCID.
If you want to flash the stock ICS rom then here's the RUU for that: http://db.tt/KLhJSmgk
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Sorry for all the questions what is CID either HTC__001 or superCID.

freddy0000 said:
Sorry for all the questions what is CID either HTC__001 or superCID.
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CID... Is carrier identification.. It is to identify which model is linked to which carrier or whether it is unbranded.
A device with a particular cid.. Only receives update from that carrier only. (eg recently TMOBILE US ppl got ics)
If your cid is HTC__001 then your phone is Europe unbranded (not linked to any carrier) one
Now supercid is a unique cid (11111111)
That lifts carriers restrictions.. If you got supercid you can install official rom's (RUU) of any carrier and any country
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves

Its unlocked to work with any network Is the supercid part of the rooting process

I know this might be asked before but i cant find it. firmware/super wipe

Guys I see a lot of roms that tells you what firmware is recommended but it dowsnt show you on how to know which firmware you have.
I recently got this phone sensation 4g from tmous. came with ICS.
I rooted it, s-off it, and hboot 1.27.1111
how can i know what firmware do I have? and I guess I need to be on 1.33
and another question is anybody still using super wipes in here? seems like the more ics roms dont tells you that you need to do a super wipe
and can I still use superwipe when flashing new roms?

gypsy214 said:
Guys I see a lot of roms that tells you what firmware is recommended but it dowsnt show you on how to know which firmware you have.
I recently got this phone sensation 4g from tmous. came with ICS.
I rooted it, s-off it, and hboot 1.27.1111
how can i know what firmware do I have? and I guess I need to be on 1.33
and another question is anybody still using super wipes in here? seems like the more ics roms dont tells you that you need to do a super wipe
and can I still use superwipe when flashing new roms?
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Their is a firmware thread that gives all the firmwares with unlocked bootloaders. Also a rom will state if you should super wipe or not. But as a rule of thumb do not super wipe when installing a aosp or aokp rom. Only sense roms seem to be compatible.
Also since you have ics as stock It would be safe to assume you have the 3.32 firmware as this is what is linked in most if the s-off guides I believe.
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Terepin said:
Let me get this straight: You managed, on your own, to root and S-OFF your phone, and yet you can't find info about firmware version. Tell me you're joking.
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I tried to go to bootloader and it wont say it, I'm running viper s maybe that is why I cant see it.

heavy_metal_man said:
Their is a firmware thread that gives all the firmwares with unlocked bootloaders. Also a rom will state if you should super wipe or not. But as a rule of thumb do not super wipe when installing a aosp or aokp rom. Only sense roms seem to be compatible.
Also since you have ics as stock It would be safe to assume you have the 3.32 firmware as this is what is linked in most if the s-off guides I believe.
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so the 3.32 is based on stock ICS for the sensation 4g then why some says to update to 3.33

gypsy214 said:
so the 3.32 is based on stock ICS for the sensation 4g then why some says to update to 3.33
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Because 3.33 is the newest firmware and what some devs recommend for there roms. Even though 3.32 is the same as 3.33. So if you have 3.32 your ok.The only real difference is the radio. So if you just update your radio. You should be fine.

you can update to 3.33 but right now you dont have to. eventually maybe. setting > about phone will also tell you firmware version on phone, or maybe just the firmware of the rom, not sure. If you read the firmware thread then you will understand firmware and settings and not make a mistake. end up with reboots or tac nyan or some ****.

Xx12thANG3LxX said:
Even though 3.32 is the same as 3.33.
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New kernel, GPU drivers, radio and RIL are hardly "the same".
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gypsy214 said:
I tried to go to bootloader and it wont say it, I'm running viper s maybe that is why I cant see it.
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Finding out the firmware version is one of the most basic information you need to know. Hint: Bootloader has nothing to do with it.
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What he's trying to tell you is if you get to your boot loader (by pulling battery putting battery back in pressing volume down and power at the same time) the information about your device will be there...if you want to upgrade to 3.33 you flash the v pg58img file. You put on root of sd card boot into boot loader the way I showed you then it will ask to update press power for yes. Then DELETE the file! If you don't delete it it will continuously try to update. That's all there is to it. Hope I've helped.if so press thank you. Have fun updating.
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Terepin said:
New kernel, GPU drivers, radio and RIL are hardly "the same".
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Oh huge changes there!!!! Wow I must flash now!! Big update. My phones probably gonna fly away. It will be so fast and so much better with this new firmware. I can't wait!!!! Thanks bro!!!

Well thanks a lot guys. I seen the firmware thread and read about how to install and all that. all i wanted to know is to make sure witch firmware i have, and like i am running viper s sense 4 on settings/about phone did not tell me anything about what firmware i had not even bootloader, but just to be on the safe side im gonna flash the newest 3.33

gypsy214 said:
Hey dude this is the second post you made on my thread nothing but being a smart a$$. People like you makes me sick. FYI there is a report button on xda!!!
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Don't worry about him lol. He's one of the funniest guys on XDA when you take his grumpiness lightly. I don't call him Grumpy Terepin for nothing.
He's always got a point too btw.

question about tmobile sensation

hi guys,
im planning to swap my phone to htc sensation 4g. tmobile. im currently using optimus 3d p920.
the question is, are t-mobile 4g sensations are somewhat different to other sensations when it comes to flashing? i meant there are somr carriers who does not support tethering right? or you can flash any rom on tmobile htc sensation?
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cmangalos said:
hi guys,
im planning to swap my phone to htc sensation 4g. tmobile. im currently using optimus 3d p920.
the question is, are t-mobile 4g sensations are somewhat different to other sensations when it comes to flashing? i meant there are somr carriers who does not support tethering right? or you can flash any rom on tmobile htc sensation?
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as far as i know if you S-OFF your device and supercid then you can install whatever rom you like

thanks for the reply.
i saw a thread before, though i cannot find it now, and based on that thread, there is a different way to flash roms to at&t sensation phones.
i am physically located in the philippines and i havent tried international phones ever since, i always use the local ones.
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Hi there, I am T-Mobile sensation 4g. I can confirm that yes as long as you are S-off you can flash any Rom to your sensation you like. Just make sure you have the correct firmware for the Rom you are wanting to run. Rule of thumb is ICS roms run on android 3.32 or 3.33. Firmware. Very important. 3.33 is the newest firmware but most ics roms run on both . As long as your soff and have the correct firmware your good to go. I highly recommend you using 4ext recovery also. It's a easy to use recovery that most of us use . Some roms actually are not booting unless 4 ext is installed. It's extremely easy to use and you will love it. It makes flashing a breeze. Remember before you flash to always do a nandroid backup . This is for your protection. If you have an issue you can easily restore your backup. Hope this information has helped you some. Don't worry about T-Mobile. I enjoy any Rom I want whenever I want to flash without any issues. Best wishes !
sent from HTC sensation, soff, 3.33 firmware, viper Rom, sense 4.1, mugen battery. please press thanks if I helped in anyway.

thanks for that information.
if ever this would be my first htc unit. what are the things that i need to consider to prevent softbrick/hardbrick? or loosing imei? i appreciate using ext4 was already mentioned. i have a friend with galaxy s, he wiped ext4 and it cause him a bootloop and its very dificult to fix. as we tried to use odin and got no luck.
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edit:
now i got my sensation,
its already using a custom rom and custom kernel. im checking if there is clockwork recovery app or not, it appears that there is none,
how can i check if it's s-off already, unlocked bootloader, with supercid?