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For the last few weeks, we have been intensely covering security and privacy issues that involve quite a few of the latest HTC devices (Sensation, EVO 3D, etc). It was discovered by XDA Recognized Developer TrevE that there are multiple apps and services that basically collect all sorts of information about our devices, their usage, and everything that is done on them to later on be sent to some Amazon cloud drive. HTC has come back a couple of times with official statements saying that the apps are indeed harmless and that the information collected is to basically help HTC and the carriers to improve their products and services to us. Moreover, they claimed that, at least, the HTC services can be opted out and they would stop collecting said information. Well, TrevE has been doing a lot of research as of lately and further proved that not only can these services not be turned off by regular means, but also has shown, by doing an experiment in a controlled environment, that the apps are inherently dangerous as they can be easily exploited by virtually any app that has android.permission.INTERNET enabled, which a ton of apps in the market currently do.
The kind of information that can be pulled from the device could be enough, potentially, to clone a device completely if the person receiving this knows how to do it. The app seems to allow the dump of virtually all stats and values by the device. Regardless of HTC’s motives to collect this information, the important part about this, and really the core of the issue, is that the information from these apps can be easily intercepted and sent anywhere to anyone. For the skeptics in the room, TrevE has put together a small demo app (proof of concept) that shows what could potentially happen when this is intercepted. He also has put together a Youtube video that shows exactly what is going on. It seems that the only real way to get rid of these services is by rooting the device and manually removing them, but there is no known way to remove them from an unrooted device.
HTC has been notified about the issue approximately 5 days ago and we are still waiting for a response, which they said they are working on. You will have to keep in mind that this is only the first app that TrevE is working on, and if you remember from previous articles, there are 5 of them. Long story short, you can expect one of these articles on XDA at least once a week for the next month or so.
Well, HTC, as you may see it, this is no longer about us wondering why you are getting our information, but it was discovered that whatever you are using to get it is simply not secure. For the sake of your customer’s privacy, we request that you take the proper measures and release any and all necessary patches to fix this for any and all devices being affected. This is about people’s data falling in the wrong hands, so please we ask that you take action on this soon.
HTCLogger allows any app that has access to android.permission.INTERNET on devices such as the evo3d to obtain full access to query sensitive info such as network/appusagestats/meid/esn/phone#/past 10 location broadcasts and last known locations/and more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoTUkQ7SlNU&feature=player_embedded
You can find the original thread here. Also, you can check if you are vulnerable by using the app found in this thread.
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Thanks TrevE for the tip!
More links regaurding new findings!!..
http://infectedrom.com/showthread.php/559-Vunerability-1-Android-Security-Elevation
and heres an app to check if you are vulnerable...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559&postcount=110
Does this help anyone?! LOL....Im sure NOBODY like BIG BROTHER WATCHING YOU!
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Does this help anyone?! LOL....Im sure NOBODY like BIG BROTHER WATCHING YOU!
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Well you kind of threw that out the door when you decided to buy an ANDROID device.. didn't ya ? LOL
so if you run something like cyanogen or miui am i right in thinking you would prob not be vulnerable, but custom sense based roms prob would be?
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so if you run something like cyanogen or miui am i right in thinking you would prob not be vulnerable, but custom sense based roms prob would be?
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Thats basically what Im thinking.. But who knows...For all we know the STOCK sms app is sending HTC all our texts...think of how many drug dealers/ or other illegal things people do that is uploaded to htc....I For-see a NEW AGE IN CRIME STOPPING upon us...and the general public doesnt even know it.
About the big brother watching you.
Why do you think Android is free? Companies like HTC and Google want you to spend as much time as possible on the internet so you can see the ads that pay their bills. That's the whole idea behind Android, cheap access to the internet so you can use Google products and see their ads. HTC is probably doing something similar here. HTC has access to lots of user data via the phones that they sell. This is valuable data to data miners who can sell their products using this information.
Personally I don't have a problem with this. But if you do it makes sense to stop using the internet
Call me crazy but I quite frankly don't care much about them knowing what apps I run or where my wifi network is located or where my phone has been. I voluntarily share that kind of information with Google in return for making my life easier by allowing my to use services like Google Maps and Google Search. Now if I were a terrorist or someone running from law enforcement I could see how this would bother me a lot more.
Moreover, if this information actually helps HTC improve the user experience on my next device (similar to how it has helped Google improve their services), I'll personally send it to them in a .zip file. It is troubling though that they kind of just take these kinds of stats regardless of your consent.
Anyway, let me know when they start listening in on my phone calls and reading my text messages. Maybe then I'll care more. -_-
EDIT: I still really do appreciate TrevE taking time out of his day to do this research and share his findings with the community.
Guys I think there trying to say that HTC or google is not gathering our info securely,and anyone with the knowledge can intercept our info from google or HTC. Say the president uses a HTC sensation,and a terrorist intercepts the presidents info that is suppose to go to google or HTC. Now that terrorist knows where the president is,etc. See how that's a problem? I sure don't want no crazed lunatic knowing were I'm at,worst,cloning my phone!
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Guys I think there trying to say that HTC or google is not gathering our info securely,and anyone with the knowledge can intercept our info from google or HTC. Say the president uses a HTC sensation,and a terrorist intercepts the presidents info that is suppose to go to google or HTC. Now that terrorist knows where the president is,etc. See how that's a problem? I sure don't want no crazed lunatic knowing were I'm at,worst,cloning my phone!
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just in case we wondered why the president still uses a crackberry
Another reason to use Cyanogenmod. Yipee!
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I'm running a stock T-Mobile version of sense, rooted and when I installed the app, it says connecton refused, I looked for the app htclog.apk in /system/app and it's not there...
Is there an Internet filter program equivalent to some parental filters? I need something that cannot be uninstalled of modified without master password. Something equivalent to k9 windows software.
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Anything can be easily uninstalled - I think you're SOL.
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Here is an option for filtering the Market:
http://parentalcontrolcenter.com/content-filtering-for-android-devices/
Any internet filter is going to be useless anyway because of the countless options for bypassing them.
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Best I've found is a monitor. X3watch emails a person of your choice a report of any suspicious websites visited on your phone. Not a filter, but it lets you know what's happening on your phone so you can catch any problems. Easily disabled, but it reports that, too. So you know if it is being bypassed.
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x3watch apparently is only for froyo and based on reviews not good on updates.
Anyone else know of any other software filter?
ChadZ,
Would you provide a little more information please? For example lets say this is your phone and when you get home from work you let your little ones use it. But you do not want them wondering into the wrong site. As long as they are on wifi you control then Open DNS would work. And that would cover all your devices over that router.
If this is over the towers then that is a different ball game. But at that point do you really think you have prevented the porn searches? If the little one is out in public all they have to do is go to a friends house or use their phone. At that point education seems like a better option.
Dave
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ChadZ,
Would you provide a little more information please? For example lets say this is your phone and when you get home from work you let your little ones use it. But you do not want them wondering into the wrong site. As long as they are on wifi you control then Open DNS would work. And that would cover all your devices over that router.
If this is over the towers then that is a different ball game. But at that point do you really think you have prevented the porn searches? If the little one is out in public all they have to do is go to a friends house or use their phone. At that point education seems like a better option.
Dave
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education seems like a better option.
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Education is always a better option.
I keep trying to convince the wife about this, rather than crapping up all the computers in the house with software that's annoying at best, crippling at worst.
Hi guys,
My sister has two young sons intent on having Father Christmas bring them their first cellphones this year, and have been dropping hints like napalm about the Play being sooooo good for gaming on the move and currently sooo cheap. It looks like she will bow to their wishes against her better judgement. Her main concern is net security and limiting the access that they have to adult content and potential abuse etc on the handset. Can anyone recommend a good app that can limit the type of content a child can access on this handset?
All suggestions welcome and appreciated
I know of nothing like that per-say. But some launchers and apps give you the ability to hide applications. Your friend could just hide the default browser, giving her children no access to the internet.
I wouldn't give them that phone period if as you say it's against the mother's intentions. Children can do with a cheaper phone, and with none at all.
You can hide the internet browser (and any other app like, say, Settings) quickly and easily with Launcher Pro. The Market now allows you to protect purchases with a password... And there are apps which allow you to password-protect any app before running.
That said, shielding children from the interwebs is not exactly a great idea in the long run.
How old are the kids? I recommend them to be atleast 13/12 so they won't lose it..
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I wouldn't give them that phone period if as you say it's against the mother's intentions. Children can do with a cheaper phone, and with none at all.
You can hide the internet browser (and any other app like, say, Settings) quickly and easily with Launcher Pro. The Market now allows you to protect purchases with a password... And there are apps which allow you to password-protect any app before running.
That said, shielding children from the interwebs is not exactly a great idea in the long run.
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I agree that it is at best a bad idea giving young kids a smartphone of that specification, but there's nothing I can do about that now. And yes, shielding kids from the net would be a little unfair as that is one function this thing performs well that they cannot use on, say a Nintendo DSi. These two kids, young as they are, are pretty tech savvy and love to browse the web.
They have a netbook which they share and it has a net nanny on board which has been effective thus far.
My main concern is limiting the amount of access they can have through their web browser on the phone, and keeping their information private and safe. A similar package that might be available from the Android Market? I've looked around the Market myself (X10i's rock, by the way!! ), but haven't seen anything that really serves this purpose. I thought maybe one of you might have been in a similar situation?
With the recent price drop in the Xperia Play (now well under 200 euro in Ireland on top up now), this is going to be a very popular first phone for kids this Christmas and I'm sure there are many other parents who would share the same concerns
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How old are the kids? I recommend them to be atleast 13/12 so they won't lose it..
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They are both a little too young in my opinion ( one is twelve and the other fast approaching eleven) to own one of these, but that's really not my decision to make. I'm just their uncle, not their Dad, so I have little or no say. I advised my sister against making this purchase but it fell on deaf ears. So now my priority is about damage limitation and to kid proof their phones instead.
And, honestly, if one, or both of them lose their phones, then I will sleep a lot more soundly! It's a simple enough job to wipe a smartphone remotely so lost data shouldn't be an issue. It would however show they are not yet old nor responsible enough to own a phone and they would have to wait quite a while before getting another! These things don't grow on trees!
The Xperia play is not the hardiest of phones, So you may want to buy a case and put on screen protectors.
Hey man check with the service provider. Most carriers make you get the data package with android phones now, maybe they have a family setting on their end. Personally I blocked the inappropriate stuff from my nieces via our router, but seeing as 3g/4g traffic isn't routed on our end, maybe your service provider may have a setting for it on their end.
DroidWall
But to use it you need to be root and the child could disable it. The best way would be to give them a SIM that doesn't have data access enabled...
But then there is wifi.
How old are the kids ? If they are less than 10, I wouldn't give them a phone at all. If they are more than 10, chances are they have already watched porn and violent scenes so I can't see much of an issue with giving them access to the internet.
I know T-Mobile have an internet security setting... check with the provider
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They are both a little too young in my opinion ( one is twelve and the other fast approaching eleven) to own one of these, but that's really not my decision to make. I'm just their uncle, not their Dad, so I have little or no say. I advised my sister against making this purchase but it fell on deaf ears. So now my priority is about damage limitation and to kid proof their phones instead.
And, honestly, if one, or both of them lose their phones, then I will sleep a lot more soundly! It's a simple enough job to wipe a smartphone remotely so lost data shouldn't be an issue. It would however show they are not yet old nor responsible enough to own a phone and they would have to wait quite a while before getting another! These things don't grow on trees!
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All networks have a 18+ policy on there networks. Now the only devices or Sims that come with the 18+ lock off is contract phones or Sims as you have to be 18+ to buy one. But on payg phones and Sims the parental lock is automatically and the only way to switch it off is to call the network provider and prove your age by credit card. Debit don't work only credit. But hate to say it. The kids would always be able to find porn by just going onto google images. Unless you turn it on to strict filtering. Now for the data protection and remote lock and wipe I use an app called NetQin. Now it costs £1.50 pm and is done through a text directly from the app. It provides virus scanner, call safety (stops people listening to your calls) web protection (hides your important information while surfing) GPS tracker from there site, remote lock and wipe, and many more. Also the main thing I like. Is if someone else puts there sim in it. It sends a msg to a designated number with the thiefs mobile number, and a msg you setup. I suggest setting it up to say the imei number.
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All networks have a 18+ policy on there networks. Now the only devices or Sims that come with the 18+ lock off is contract phones or Sims as you have to be 18+ to buy one. But on payg phones and Sims the parental lock is automatically and the only way to switch it off is to call the network provider and prove your age by credit card. Debit don't work only credit. But hate to say it. The kids would always be able to find porn by just going onto google images. Unless you turn it on to strict filtering. Now for the data protection and remote lock and wipe I use an app called NetQin. Now it costs £1.50 pm and is done through a text directly from the app. It provides virus scanner, call safety (stops people listening to your calls) web protection (hides your important information while surfing) GPS tracker from there site, remote lock and wipe, and many more. Also the main thing I like. Is if someone else puts there sim in it. It sends a msg to a designated number with the thiefs mobile number, and a msg you setup. I suggest setting it up to say the imei number.
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18+ locks are useless imo. There will always be apps that get around it like opera mini. That connects to.the internet using a VPN. Rendering all 18+ locks useless
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Many carriers have porn blocks however if you use opera mini it bypasses it since they are 11/12 they probably already seen it I no i have by then I'm 18 now. There is a app called porn blocker on the market and net nanny hope this helps
Also you should post this in android general not a specific phone since most things for 1 things work on others
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.cloudacl&hl=en
or
http://bit.ly/tyDFXZ
On some routers, and you can block websites with keywords that you input from loading.
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18+ locks are useless imo. There will always be apps that get around it like opera mini. That connects to.the internet using a VPN. Rendering all 18+ locks useless
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Yes I know that. That is why I said that they will more than likely still be able to find porn. But it all depends what these kids are like. If there little brats (no offence to op) then I would worry about it but if they are well behaved kids and brought up well and taught its naughty and they are doing well at school then I wouldn't worry so much. Most kids aren't interested these days. They mainly want it for games. Also if they want to use the internet then I would just block the web on the phone and just only let them use it when at home. Put a password in market and browser and when at home you type the password in so they can use it indoors on the set up WiFi that stops them from searching or going on adult sites. So when they are out they can only call and play on games. No web. No browser. No market. That is probably your safest option.
Edit: just went on the market there is a browser called safe browser the porn blocker. It blocks adult content and the kids can't change the settings as they need a password so block the market with a password when they go out and then they can't download amother browser. Hope this helps.
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How old are the kids?
When my kids 3 & 6 borrows my phone for gameplaying I always turn off data traffic.
If they are older, root their phones, edit host file and ban all www and .com adresses.
That wont stop them forever but before they figure out how to fix it, they are probably old enough to find pr0n on other ways...
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He did say in a follow up post how old they were
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Thanks for your input guys. Plenty to consider there.
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Her main concern is net security and limiting the access that they have to adult content and potential abuse etc on the handset.
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Just send the two kids to China, then they wont be able to access adult contents any more.
**** 'Great Fire Wall'.
i've been told this BEFORE so i will REPEAT it no swearing young people read this forum. and most likely you are younger than 18 aswell. i am 18 so i dont care but some people may be offended
OK guys I'm new here (kinda) , I searched the forum, read etc and haven't come across any of the above mentioned issue.
Now my reason for not naming the above game is because I do not want other users to go doing anything they shouldn't.
I'm not sure if this is really really serious or its just a feature I didn't read in the App (xposed/xprivacy). Anyways I'll get to the point!
I recently found out I can access another users account (on a popular game) when xposed is installed and activated.
I tried it two times and it actually works (I didn't do anything to the account but I was curious).
Now my question is, could this be a bug in the game or something? M thinking this could be a real big issue if gotten in the wrong hands.
I will report it to the devs of the game but I want to know first etc.
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Best thing to do is follow industry standard and practice responsible disclosure. Generally a secure, private message notifying your discovery to the developers that have made the potential mistake is the first step to take.
If they don't respond kindly and promptly explaining how they're working to resolve the issue, then it would be best to inform them that you're going to be responsible in informing the app's distributors (play store?) to have them figure out if it's a serious problem enough to disable distribution until the bug is fixed.
If after that you've still not seen any honest progress in mitigating the vulnerability, call the press, those vultures love rotting flesh for the front page.
What is Responsible Disclosure? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338337
Thanks dude! Will do as u suggested, however I posted in their forum asking them to contact me as I'm on my phone n isn't close to a pc n it's really hard to navigate their website on the phone.
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Understandable. If you can, see if their team has a direct contact anywhere I their site when you have a desktop to work with. play store usually has a contact link for app Developers too. I'd like to think most software teams are at least responsible enough for reputations sake and will give their due diligence depending on severity, but I've not a clue. Someone brings me a tip like this and I'd be all ears, but some of the projects I work with deal with a bit more sensitive data (unless this app you're talking about had in app billing, which would make this much more serious. Legal implications for improper handling of consumer financial data can be quite serious unless you're on wall street.)
Well, it DOES have in-app purchase! I went ahead and checked out again, I realise it can (continually) access only one set account based on Xprivacy 's "global fake account", settings, when I go manual and change uses random settings, it does not access that said account, from further test I realise accessing another players account has to do with the email address, because when I unchecked the other features it does not work (it takes me to a new game instead) I'm not sure how the devs of Xprivacy provide or Crete the "global fake account" but it has something to do with accessing the app, if someone is really determine n decide to modify/rewrite Xprivacy I believe it can be used to access anyone's account based on If u know who actually plays that game, easiest way is to just go on play store see who comment and find some way to get their email address!
Edit: I also emailed them with pictures of the users account and how I accessed it, I didn't mentioned Xprivacy as I was uncertain if I should. Do u think I should?
Btw I still don't get any reply and that was from about 12 hours ago.
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Well, it DOES have in-app purchase! I went ahead and checked out again, I realise it can (continually) access only one set account based on Xprivacy 's "global fake account", settings, when I go manual and change uses random settings, it does not access that said account, from further test I realise accessing another players account has to do with the email address, because when I unchecked the other features it does not work (it takes me to a new game instead) I'm not sure how the devs of Xprivacy provide or Crete the "global fake account" but it has something to do with accessing the app, if someone is really determine n decide to modify/rewrite Xprivacy I believe it can be used to access anyone's account based on If u know who actually plays that game, easiest way is to just go on play store see who comment and find some way to get their email address!
Edit: I also emailed them with pictures of the users account and how I accessed it, I didn't mentioned Xprivacy as I was uncertain if I should. Do u think I should?
Btw I still don't get any reply and that was from about 12 hours ago.
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Awesome it's great to see that there is always someone to test those boundaries, as its people like myself that always take it for granted that, when someone says a game is safe we take it as "Gospel" so to speak, that it actually is.I found this thread a genuinely interesting read and I learned that not everything is as plain as the nose on my face...thanks guys!
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Well, it DOES have in-app purchase! I went ahead and checked out again, I realise it can (continually) access only one set account based on Xprivacy 's "global fake account", settings, when I go manual and change uses random settings, it does not access that said account, from further test I realise accessing another players account has to do with the email address, because when I unchecked the other features it does not work (it takes me to a new game instead) I'm not sure how the devs of Xprivacy provide or Crete the "global fake account" but it has something to do with accessing the app, if someone is really determine n decide to modify/rewrite Xprivacy I believe it can be used to access anyone's account based on If u know who actually plays that game, easiest way is to just go on play store see who comment and find some way to get their email address!
Edit: I also emailed them with pictures of the users account and how I accessed it, I didn't mentioned Xprivacy as I was uncertain if I should. Do u think I should?
Btw I still don't get any reply and that was from about 12 hours ago.
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Xprivacy forces your 'phone' to report bunk settings, which xPrivacy also allows you to manually set. So if this is a vulnerability in this particular app, where the app developers are relying on what they previously thought was solid and unmanipulable data from the users' phone.... then there's certainly potential for abuse, and potential for this vulnerability to be fairly widespread. It seems like an honest mistake on the part of the game developers because most situations the data that xprivacy is allowing manipulation to is in most cases static and unique per phone/user. You very well may have opened up pandora's box... Authentication to an app with purchasing power shouldn't rely solely on supposedly static strings within the android system...
Well either they don't take it seriously or they don't reach to my mail as yet cuz nobody replied to my email or my forum post, I'm thinking it's cuz I leave out the app I used to get the access, I dunno what else to do so imo just leave it... Or maybe email them one more time...
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Thanks flower! Always willing to help out! I do enjoy bug testing! Lol its my fave pass time!
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Thanks dude! Will do as u suggested, however I posted in their forum asking them to contact me as I'm on my phone n isn't close to a pc n it's really hard to navigate their website on the phone.
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You are possibly violating CFAA (a felony) but continuing to access data on their servers. I would stop accessing their sevices/using the app, and alert them. If you have issues contacting them, I can act as an intermediary, most companies will respond to me.
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You are possibly violating CFAA (a felony) but continuing to access data on their servers. I would stop accessing their sevices/using the app, and alert them. If you have issues contacting them, I can act as an intermediary, most companies will respond to me.
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They contact me on their forum, and what would they charge me for? I didn't do it deliberately. And I wouldn't give u any information cuz I don't know u anyways.
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They contact me on their forum, and what would they charge me for? I didn't give u any information didn't do it deliberately. And I would cuz I don't know u anyways.
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I recently found out I can access another users account (on a popular game) when xposed is installed and activated.
I tried it two times and it actually works (I didn't do anything to the account but I was curious).
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intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains information from any protected computer
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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act
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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act
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Thank u for your info mate but if you realise I POSTED ABOUT IT OUT OF CONCERN! I tested to see if it was INDEED what I suspected! If ur a Dev (I'm not but I know because I do alot of beta testing) I'm sure u would no ALOT of people report false positive.
And HOW would I be able to explain in details as to how I was able to access it if it was done my mistake in the first place? That's what ur normally asked to do isn't it? Hmmmm
So me checking to make sure it wasn't isn't any violation as u call it. I'm not abusing anything...
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Thank u for your info mate but if you realise I POSTED ABOUT IT OUT OF CONCERN! I tested to see if it was INDEED what I suspected! If ur a Dev (I'm not but I know because I do alot of beta testing) I'm sure u would no ALOT of people report false positive.
And HOW would I be able to explain in details as to how I was able to access it if it was done my mistake in the first place? That's what ur normally asked to do isn't it? Hmmmm
So me checking to make sure it wasn't isn't any violation as u call it. I'm not abusing anything...
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Yes I am a developer, working in the mobile security field (hence being a moderator of this forum). Yes, it was a violation of CFAA. If the company wants to be an vindictive, they certainly could get you charged for it (unlikely). Your post was (and is) fully welcome here, and exactly what we want to see. You possibly stepped too far the first time you accessed it, you certainly stepped too far the second time. If you do this or not, I personally don't care, I was merely offering you (accurate) advice.
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I was wondering if Google was like spying on me on my phone. I have the Google apps that came with my phone (that I don't use) I wanted to know if they could track me with those apps and spy on me and if I should get rid of them. All answers are appropriated thanks!
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maxster95 said:
I was wondering if Google was like spying on me on my phone. I have the Google apps that came with my phone (that I don't use) I wanted to know if they could track me with those apps and spy on me and if I should get rid of them. All answers are appropriated thanks!
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Google collects user information everywhere, your phone is not excluded.
maxster95 said:
I was wondering if Google was like spying on me on my phone. I have the Google apps that came with my phone (that I don't use) I wanted to know if they could track me with those apps and spy on me and if I should get rid of them. All answers are appropriated thanks!
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like FoodAlmighty said they do collect information, i dont think they can see your texts and phone logs, they are able to read your mail on gmail as well. if google were to want to spy on you, what would they do to you? what would they ever want with everyone's information?
Google's motto "Don't be evil".
But can I prevent any of that by uninstalling Google apps well I know I can't full prevent it but can I do anything to lesson the chances? I'm not doing anything I don't want anyone to see but it's just privacy invasion you know?
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But can I prevent any of that by uninstalling Google apps well I know I can't full prevent it but can I do anything to lesson the chances? I'm not doing anything I don't want anyone to see but it's just privacy invasion you know?
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No, you can't prevent it. If they want to, they can collect any data they want from your phone.
The only way to keep your privacy is not using any device that can be connected to the internet.
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Alright thanks
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Alright thanks
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if there is one, you could probably get a new OS on the device, like firefox OS or ubuntu, but really its nothing to worry about, im sure if google where to do something nasty it would be in the future when they own almost everything xD
Lol true true
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Google spies
Google "spies" on everyone who uses any Google service, and likely any Google product; that's exactly their business model. They sell ad targeting based on your Internet behavior, and a big part of their marketing advantage is that they own a lot of different sites that coordinate their records of your behavior.
The real question is how much to trust them to anonymize things, assuming that the information they gather and collate about you---your likely demographic properties (age, race, sex, occupation, geograhic region of residence, sexual orientation, political leanings, health issues, etc.)---is not in some way passed on to advertisers---or implicitly to people who monitor what ads you're served, without Google having to cooperate.
Don't expect actual privacy on the Internet. Assume that there are data miners out there who notice what ads you are served, and what that indirectly reveals about you, even if Google is not just handing over explicit information about you to the US government in response to secret FISA court orders. Assume that spies know more about you than your spouse does---who you've called at what hours, who you've chatted with, what you've discussed, etc.
Never answer a question on the Internet truthfully, or consistently. "Polls" on websites are mainly a way of targeting you, and selling information about you to advertisers, or to anyone who'll pay for that information, e.g., spy agencies. If you're a conservative, answer liberally half the time, and vice versa. Don't give your real age, or give your real sex more than half the time. Make them work for information about you, and make sure their data sets are full of noise.
Of course, if you do these things---e.g., being inconsistent in answers about your age and sex---that will set off alarms and draw scrutiny.
Welcome to the Kafkaesque 21st century.