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Hi, I know this topic has been covered many times, but I here's my issue.
I have phoneAlarm running on my Trinity and set phoneAlarm to cut my data connection after 1min of data inactivity and it all works fine. I can browse the web, check emails using the WM5 inbuilt email application. After 1 min of data inactivity, my connection is cut, brilliant, works like a treat.
However, once the device is asleep, and my email application polls, the data connection remains connected (if there are no emails, it won't wake up) and I have to switch on again and either let it disconnect when awake, or manually disconnect it.
The funny thing is, its just the email application thats causing this. If I was browsing using PIE and just press the power button whilst it was still connected, it times out and it gets disconnected, and the next time I wake up the device I can see there is no data connection.
it seems like the WM5 email application whilst asleep is either holding on to the connection or some data is being transferred, as I said it doesn't happen if the device is awake.
This really is bugging me, as the whole point of setting up "Auto disconnect" is so I can leave it and trust it to only connect when need be. Currently, if I don't use the phone and don't receive any emails, my GPRS connection is on all the time whilst the phone is asleep.
I have tried other programs, but generally, all of these applications perform the same registry tweak.
Sorry for long post.
I did a program (ConnectionManager) that wakes up the pda to Idle state (screen off, no sound and cpu to minimum level) each 3 minutes and check the states of connections. If there isnt traffic in 2 minutes the connection is closed.
Hi,
Interesting. Do you have a link to that program? Tried to find it in the forum by searching for "ConnectionManager" and found nothing.
So when the device is in idle state, min CPU, screen off etc, there's no problem in accepting calls etc?
I was reading a thread regarding the other program you wrote that switches bands, was interested in that too.
Thanks for your help.
Don't worry, I've found it, and it WORKS. You're a star!!!
exactly what I was looking for. It did come across it before, but for some reason I thought you didn't check for data flows and close the connection full stop. Obviously i mis read
I've downloaded WM5 SDK, but didn't really know where to start, I am a developer, but don't know anything about the WM5 APIs. Cheeky question, but is it possible to let me have the source code?
I would love to enhance something like this, would love it to be a today plug in and let you enable it without opening a new form. Settings about how long before checking. Not sure how easy it would be.
Just a comment really, not sure if its just my device (Trinity) but the Close Program button seems to be out of shape, i.e. larger than the other 3 and goes right to the edge of the screen.
Oh, one more question, do you think having the device on idle will have much impact on battery life. Once the device is in idle, does it suspend again, or does it keep it in idle until you switch it on again?
Thanks again!
Hi, another thing. Having tried this program out for a little while now, it seems to not let the device time out into suspend state. For me, it seems to just lower the brightness of the screen. The program still works, but it won't let the device suspend automatically, i thought it would switch it to idle, and turn of the screen.
Once the machine is suspended manually by pressing the power button, then its fine. Do you have this issue?
Still works like a treat though, and better than anything I had before!
Thanks again!
Sorry, my mistake. It all works fine!
Hi. I was going to do other release (the user can modify connections check, etc) but i will post the source code, sure (but the source code is in my laptop). tomorrow i will post it.....
Greetings
hongsit said:
Don't worry, I've found it, and it WORKS. You're a star!!!
exactly what I was looking for. It did come across it before, but for some reason I thought you didn't check for data flows and close the connection full stop. Obviously i mis read
I've downloaded WM5 SDK, but didn't really know where to start, I am a developer, but don't know anything about the WM5 APIs. Cheeky question, but is it possible to let me have the source code?
I would love to enhance something like this, would love it to be a today plug in and let you enable it without opening a new form. Settings about how long before checking. Not sure how easy it would be.
Just a comment really, not sure if its just my device (Trinity) but the Close Program button seems to be out of shape, i.e. larger than the other 3 and goes right to the edge of the screen.
Oh, one more question, do you think having the device on idle will have much impact on battery life. Once the device is in idle, does it suspend again, or does it keep it in idle until you switch it on again?
Thanks again!
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Idle is a state with minimum impact...but is bigger than suspended. When the device wakes up to idle state it is suspended again after a few seconds if the cpu isnt used too much. When the device is woke up by a app notification (Its our case) the system suspends very quickly. In my tests (using log method) the program does its stuff (1 seconds) and 10 seconds later the system is suspended again...
I ve used Visual Studio 2005 and the program was wrote using C (not MFC)...
Hi Daniel
Where can I download this app ?
Thanks and regards
Martin
I am curious if you gprs comes on for your push mail, can you still make outgoing call and also send text messages?. I have this issue for my atom exec and it's annoying me. Thanks
hongsit said:
Hi, I know this topic has been covered many times, but I here's my issue.
I have phoneAlarm running on my Trinity and set phoneAlarm to cut my data connection after 1min of data inactivity and it all works fine. I can browse the web, check emails using the WM5 inbuilt email application. After 1 min of data inactivity, my connection is cut, brilliant, works like a treat.
However, once the device is asleep, and my email application polls, the data connection remains connected (if there are no emails, it won't wake up) and I have to switch on again and either let it disconnect when awake, or manually disconnect it.
The funny thing is, its just the email application thats causing this. If I was browsing using PIE and just press the power button whilst it was still connected, it times out and it gets disconnected, and the next time I wake up the device I can see there is no data connection.
it seems like the WM5 email application whilst asleep is either holding on to the connection or some data is being transferred, as I said it doesn't happen if the device is awake.
This really is bugging me, as the whole point of setting up "Auto disconnect" is so I can leave it and trust it to only connect when need be. Currently, if I don't use the phone and don't receive any emails, my GPRS connection is on all the time whilst the phone is asleep.
I have tried other programs, but generally, all of these applications perform the same registry tweak.
Sorry for long post.
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where can I find this piece of software?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34693&d=1172683590
Hi,
I have been experiencing major problems with my email checking. Most of the time it doesnt follow the schedule I have set up and if it does, it never disconnects the data connection.
I had tried everything, changing the battery and ac resume from suspend time to every option, setting the auto disconnect after x time feature in advance config and whatever I did I could not get a reliable solution......
Until now.
Its a bit long winded but it works, I have been testing for the last couple of days.
What I have done is
1. Install SKSchema (You do need to buy this software but it is well worth it) http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_downloads.html#sc
2. Install rk-OSR (Thank you tytnguy) http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=54284&d=1192440286
3.Install Advance Config (Thank you schaps) http://www.touc...anced-configuration-tool-33-cab-install.html
4. In advance config, under power management, set battery resume and ac resume from standby to 90 seconds, save and soft reset.
5. In SKSchema, go to settings and turn watch mode on. Then go to tools, press watch and then new. Under 'watch for', select 'any connection', under 'any connection' select 'connected', under 'execute', select 'device' and 'screen on'. Under 'with parameters' where it says #p() in betwen the brackets put in the name of your internet connection that is used to get your email for example mine is contract internet so it looks like #p(contract internet). Press OK.
6. Still in SKSchema go to tools again, press watch then new. Under watch for, select 'any connection', under 'any connection' select 'disconnected', under 'execute' slect 'device' and 'screen off'. Under 'with parameters' do the same as above and put your internet connection in between the brackets. Press OK.
7.Open up rk-OSR. Under 'accounts' make sure outlook email accounts and the email accounts you want to check are selected then tick the enable box.
Under schedules, add the scheduled times you want.
Under 'outlook', tick auto close outlook
The wait time to sync is the time it takes to check your accounts so select a time you think it will take to carry out these tasks. I have mine set to 20 seconds, you may want longer if you are checking multiple accounts.
Under 'internet' I have mine set to default connection which uses 3G/GPRS but you can set it to use wifi if you are in a available network. It will turn the wifi on, sync and then turn it off. If you select the option to use wifi or default this will look for wifi and if it cant connect will use 3G/GPRS.
Make sure you tick the switch off GPRS/3G box. This turns teh data connection off after sync.
The connection wait time is set to 20 secs
Under 'options' sync only if device is sleeping means that if you are say using tomtom, it wont sync whilst its doing this. I have this un selected.
Silent sync means it wont wake up the device. I have this selected
Notify of unread emails does exactly that as does notify failure to connect. I dont have wither of these selected.
Sleep device after sync i have ticked.
Press save and then ok
8. In the device sounds and notification settings under new email message, make sure you dont have the show message on screen ticked other wise the application wont close properly if you get a message.
Thats it, you are done.
Basically the reason for the SKSchema part is that when my device ws locked and in standby, the email sync would happen but it would get stuck on the messaging app and not go back to the today screen. The scripts basically turns the screen on when it has connected to the internet and then off when it is disconnected allowing the app to close properly.
I know it is a bit long winded but it is the only thing i have found that works flawlessly.
I hope it helps someone else.
I just realised how long this post is so i am sorry.
Matt
thankyou very much for thisssssssss
yea I hate my data connection staying open, but this seems a little much. I wonder if someone could make a little app that basically does what all these do for the fix to work. or maybe MS should just fix it.
You could just use DiamondTweaks and enable "DisconnectAfter" it will disconnect your internet connection after the specified time of no activity.
Hmmm... the diamondtweak is in fact an Option but the Problem with this method is, that the Connection wont disconnect while in Standby, because (i think) the Tweak isnt active during sleep mode (just like any other app/method). You will recognize that when you establish a connection, go to sleep mode immediately and wake up the phone after lets say 20 minutes. The Connection-Bubble will tell you, that the data connection has been active during the whole sleep-time...
So still no solution here apart from the quiet complicated one in the first post, huh...? (Thanks anyway
rk-OSR works for me
i had the same problem when auto syncing my hotmail account. i downloaded every auto disconnect program i could find and it worked most of the time.
it was mainly when i auto synced hotmail that the data connection would just stay open. however when i auto synced my google mail account it would close, whether it was in sleep mode or not.
so after searching for more solutions i came across this thread. i didnt follow all the instructions. i just downloaded the rk-OSR program and set my schedule and other preferences.
now the syncing of both my accounrs happens automatically through this program and my data disconnects as it should.
Disable all data connections
I had a huge problem with a few applications auto starting a data connection in my pocket and never shutting off. I wouldn't have a problem with it if I pay for unlimited data(which I don't). My solution to this was going into the connections settings and change the "select which networks are automatically used" to "my ISP" which I never set one up. This way, anytime it tries to connect using data from the cell provider, it pops up an error message and yea, no pocket data transmitions. I guess you could set up a false "my ISP" if you have already set up one.
There is an option somewhere in WM6.5 to turn off data connection when in sleep mode, i enabled it, but now it does not turn the data back on to check email. I spent 3 hours searching through the options to disable this feature and put it back to the default but it appears to be gone or I can no longer find it. Does anyone know where this option is supposed to be hiding so I can confirm if it in fact disappeared?
getmp3s said:
There is an option somewhere in WM6.5 to turn off data connection when in sleep mode, i enabled it, but now it does not turn the data back on to check email. I spent 3 hours searching through the options to disable this feature and put it back to the default but it appears to be gone or I can no longer find it. Does anyone know where this option is supposed to be hiding so I can confirm if it in fact disappeared?
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Anyone know which menu has the setting? Been drivign me crazy the last few weeks
Yes, i figured it out and posted the solution here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7920303&highlight=getmp3s#post7920303
I konw a fix called "GPRS-Tweak.cpl" can help you to disconnect the network when you shut down you app which must connnet the network.
I just have a chinese version, unzipped the attachment the copy into the window folder then, you will find it your startmenu>setting>system .
but is a chinese version ,if you want english version you'd better search on google.
sorry for my poor english
Found an easier way:
Settings > phone
then go to one of the last 'tabs' and the option to turn on/off GPRS etc when in standby is there...
I'm looking for a way I can stop those card machines they use in pubs and restaurants from trying to connect to me when I turn bluetooth on to send or receive something. It usually goes like this:
- Turn bluetooth on (not discoverable)
- Search for devices
- Just about found the one I'm looking for but before I can send the file...
- "52431 would like to connect" and I have to start again.
What I'd like to do is be able to say "no, nay, never" to these things when they come up so that they at least only bug me once.
(My apologies if this has been covered elsewhere - I couldn't find it)
Any ideas?
well, you can unmark "discoverable" in your bluetooth settings. you can still look for other devices, but other devices wouldn't be able to find you.
He already has noted that his BT is set as 'non-discoverable'.
Thanks to this forum, my less-than-2months-old Verizon TP2 (Rhod500) phone has internet sharing working and some great apps, although I'm still on the stock 6.1 rom (my phone didn't come with 6.5 and the forums seem to show that Verizon's rom is not the greatest). I'm not brave enough to flash.
However, I've a couple of 'general' questions that I can't seem to solve.
1. When syncing (ActiveSync 4.5), I now have an error showing 2 unresolved files. As far as I can tell, I haven't lost any files. Is there somewhere that I can look to find the list of what is/isn't being synced? When I click on the error message, it just tries to resync and repeats the error. My old IPAQ used to allow me to see what files were unresolved but that doesn't seem to be happening here.
2. Since enabling internet sharing (Tom_Codon), my backlight dims but never completely goes dark. My Settings > All Settings > Power > Advanced has Battery - Turn off backlight if not used for 1 min selected but no sleep mode selected. I think that sleep mode was selected before the internet sharing was enabled, but I'm not sure. Is this so that the internet doesn't cut out? Should this change?
Any advice will be greatfully appreciated. (My Verizon service center people know NOTHING about the TP2 - ask them about mediaphones and they're great. And it seems like nobody has asked these questions before, or my forum search just isn't working well.)
Moving this to the CDMA sub forum.
musicmama said:
Thanks to this forum, my less-than-2months-old Verizon TP2 (Rhod500) phone has internet sharing working and some great apps, although I'm still on the stock 6.1 rom (my phone didn't come with 6.5 and the forums seem to show that Verizon's rom is not the greatest). I'm not brave enough to flash.
However, I've a couple of 'general' questions that I can't seem to solve.
1. When syncing (ActiveSync 4.5), I now have an error showing 2 unresolved files. As far as I can tell, I haven't lost any files. Is there somewhere that I can look to find the list of what is/isn't being synced? When I click on the error message, it just tries to resync and repeats the error. My old IPAQ used to allow me to see what files were unresolved but that doesn't seem to be happening here.
2. Since enabling internet sharing (Tom_Codon), my backlight dims but never completely goes dark. My Settings > All Settings > Power > Advanced has Battery - Turn off backlight if not used for 1 min selected but no sleep mode selected. I think that sleep mode was selected before the internet sharing was enabled, but I'm not sure. Is this so that the internet doesn't cut out? Should this change?
Any advice will be greatfully appreciated. (My Verizon service center people know NOTHING about the TP2 - ask them about mediaphones and they're great. And it seems like nobody has asked these questions before, or my forum search just isn't working well.)
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Do the ROM upgrade! I too was afraid but so glad that I did. It fixed a lot of glitches that I had with 6.1. Then head over to the forum "Software worth installing on the TP2" and knock yourself out! Especially Cookie's Home Tabs! It's a must have. (You'll also need CHTE...Cookie's Home Tabes Editor) Look for Touch X Manila Tweaks too. (if your device uses Sense 2.5 after the ROM upgrade) It will tweak the device to speed up the Sense 2.5 user interface and cut down on the memory used too, I think.
Q1. Not that I'm aware of. But, maybe you changed a a couple of files in both the device and the sync folder located in your PC's "My Documents"?
Q2. Tom Codon's WiFi should run if you enable sleep mode. If not...well, I guess you'll have to disable it. I just know that my Sprint TP2 runs this program even after it shuts off.
I'm still a bit of a nube too but I hope I helped.
I'm having problem with my Nexus S. When I'm in a place where signals are very bad, my NS will become "No Service" or "Not registered on network". But after i move to a place where signals are back, the phone doesn't automatically recover to online mode but stays as "No Service". I tried to turn on then turn off airplane mode, or go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Network operators, none of them works. The only solution I had was reboot the phone, which is very convenient. Can you let me know what goes wrong, or anyone else has seen similar problem?
P.S. my ROM is 2.3.2, i didn't do anything to it except auto update from google. My phone is not rooted, either.
luxel015 said:
I'm having problem with my Nexus S. When I'm in a place where signals are very bad, my NS will become "No Service" or "Not registered on network". But after i move to a place where signals are back, the phone doesn't automatically recover to online mode but stays as "No Service". I tried to turn on then turn off airplane mode, or go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Network operators, none of them works. The only solution I had was reboot the phone, which is very convenient. Can you let me know what goes wrong, or anyone else has seen similar problem?
P.S. my ROM is 2.3.2, i didn't do anything to it except auto update from google. My phone is not rooted, either.
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This is a WELL-KNOWN bug on the SNS. Download NoBars from the market as a work around. Also, please search before you post questions in the future. It is forum policy.
Thanks very much. Sorry that i haven't done enough reading before posting. I tried to search related posts again and found several posts with your reply I should learn how to use correct keywords next time.
luxel015 said:
Thanks very much. Sorry that i haven't done enough reading before posting. I tried to search related posts again and found several posts with your reply I should learn how to use correct keywords next time.
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I'm glad you found your answer. NoBars works great but its still rather pathetic that we have to use an app to maintain phone functionality out of our $500 phone =/
i consider downloading an app to make a phone like this operate like the first nokia phone..pathetic. this is not a solution.