Database Info

Little bit affraid.

Since we know that the last recovery can't charge when phone is off, i'm a little bit affraid.
I love to use Rom Manager but... if my phone is fully discharged, i can't boot and it's the end for my phone? o_o

Bluewall said:
Since we know that the last recovery can't charge when phone is off, i'm a little bit affraid.
I love to use Rom Manager but... if my phone is fully discharged, i can't boot and it's the end for my phone? o_o
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
You can download CWM 4.0.1.4 from here:
http://www.multiupload.com/UCJYHKQH23

Bluewall said:
Since we know that the last recovery can't charge when phone is off, i'm a little bit affraid.
I love to use Rom Manager but... if my phone is fully discharged, i can't boot and it's the end for my phone? o_o
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some people have had success reviving their phone using various methods, take a look at the link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193315
Try flashing the recovery provided in the post above me, and then run this ADB command:
adb shell cat /sys/devices/platform/htc_battery/power_supply/battery/status
You should get battery status (charging or discharging)
If it is discharging, flash other recoveries, including the original AlphaRevX one and the CWM one, and seeing what output you get with the above command.
If none of the recoveries show they are charging after issuing the above ADB command, then either you can be very careful not to let the battery drain, or let the battery drain and risk it and see if the solutions provided in the above thread work, or finally you can flash the stock recovery everytime you don't need the custom recovery (but this can be a pain)

Do this:
DL the .4 referenced version of CWM and then turn off your phone with a semi charged battery. Connect the charger and leave it for an hour. Turn back on your phone and see if the battery has been charging. If it doesnt charge it, OR if you find that you cannot start the phone back up without a battery pull first, then DL the .5 version of CWM.
I found that .4 didnt work correctly for me. While it DID charge the battery, it failed to light the LED AND wouldnt start up without a battery pull. I switched to the .5 version and found everything to work correctly.
It seems that its going to be ONLY one or the other for each person. No one knows why, but this is your best bet.
Matt

[RECOVERY] 05/09/2011 Clockwork-5.0.2.0-pyramid

15 APRIL 2012: ALL - PLEASE NOW REFER TO THIS THREAD HERE
Just found a new Clockwork-5.0.1.0 for our beloved Sensation(al) device
It works fine and didn't find any bug yet
The charging issue some of users had seems to be solved
In order for this to work, the HTC Sensation needs to be S-OFF.
How to Flash:
Flash via boatloader or push adb or fastboot flash recovery recovery.img or using Rom Manager
Download:
01/09/2011: 5.0.1.0:HERE
Update 05/09/2011: 5.0.2.0: HERE
If you want to flash via Bootloader just put the following file PG58IMG.zip in your SD card : HERE
changelog: fix the fact that some users were loosing root access with 5.0.1.0

already a heavy thread going for this, but it SHOULD be in the dev thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242522
EDIT* good notes too, there are too many plp who dont know how to do this with either method

Alternative method is fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

mike1986. said:
Alternative method is fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats the easiest way, ive found ;P

what are the differences with clockwork 4.0 ?

jigsaw956 said:
what are the differences with clockwork 4.0 ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
check out the thread i posted, lots of testing notes
the most significant is the backups/restores are WAYYYY quicker
...and its blue!

Charging issue is still there. Doesn't charge when switched off or battery goes empty. Not Recommended for users who go out of battery very often..
To check if your phone is charging, turn off ur phone, remove and reinsert your battery(to make sure ur phone is fully switched off), then open adb and type::
adb shell cat /sys/devices/platform/htc_battery/power_supply/battery/status
if it returns charging, it's fine for u, otherwise Think again..
I got discharging, so reverted back to 4.0.1.4(Modded for charging when switched off)..
Here's link for 4.0.1.4 for those who want to revert back http://goo.gl/4VlGV

it actually does charge when turned off, but not when in hboot/fastboot/recovery
i completely drained my battery, and it charged, but i had to let it fill for a min or so before i could turn it back on with enough juice to get back into OS
not recommended if kill your battery often
EDIT* the link i poseted has a bit of testing already done, it was just put in the general thread, not the dev one

Wouldn't the easiest way to flash it would be through ROM Manager? That's what I did
sent from Christ All Mighty II

you'd be surprised how many people prefer the manual way (im one of them )
im not a fan or rom manager, you dont really *learn* when you use it, and doesnt work all the time

Solidus_n313 said:
it actually does charge when turned off, but not when in hboot/fastboot/recovery
i completely drained my battery, and it charged, but i had to let it fill for a min or so before i could turn it back on with enough juice to get back into OS
not recommended if kill your battery often
EDIT* the link i poseted has a bit of testing already done, it was just put in the general thread, not the dev one
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did u try adb command when phone was turned off?
It gives me "Discharging', when just turned off and connected to PC.
I was f****d when i had just s-offed my Sensation, and went out of battery. So I'm too skeptical about all this

yup, discharging everytime now, looks like it only worked after that initial restart after a battery pull...
oh well, im still keeping it, the backup/restore is much quicker, and i use it a lot

Discharging for me with adb commandBut LED is red :/

pnyppon said:
Did u try adb command when phone was turned off?
It gives me "Discharging', when just turned off and connected to PC.
I had got f****d when i had just s-offed my Sensation, and went out of battery. So I'm too skeptical about all this
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No bro it charging normally even if your phone is turned off. I tried it already cause i have a spare full charged battery. The problem is when you are on recovery aka no charge. Anyway i still find silly to try flash a rom when you are on low battery at all.

nikosblade said:
No bro it charging normally even if your phone is turned off. I tried it already cause i have a spare full charged battery. The problem is when you are on recovery aka no charge. Anyway i still find silly to try flash a rom when you are on low battery at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats what im sayin!
even though it says discharging on powered off, it does charge, but u just gotta wait a min or 2 so it has enough juice to power back on...
its not as bad as the < 4.0.1.4 problems, but either way its a better ver of CWM

moeinf said:
Discharging for me with adb commandBut LED is red :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LED doesn't exactly give proper info. When i was using 4.0.1.4(initial that doesnt charge when switched off that came with revolutionary), i charged phone for whole night and LED was red, but in morning, phone's battery was still empty.
LED is liar lol..

nikosblade said:
No bro it charging normally even if your phone is turned off. I tried it already cause i have a spare full charged battery. The problem is when you are on recovery aka no charge. Anyway i still find silly to try flash a rom when you are on low battery at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
U r right.
But does that mean ADB is liar?? Dunno if i should trust adb or not..
I dont care whether it charges when i m on recovery, but i just want to be sure that my phone charges when i run out of battery.

pnyppon said:
U r right.
But does that mean ADB is liar?? Dunno if i should trust adb or not..
I dont care whether it charges when i m on recovery, but i just want to be sure that my phone charges when i run out of battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its hit and miss for certain people, not sure what the variances are...it DOES recharge for me when powered off, and also for a few users

pnyppon said:
Did u try adb command when phone was turned off?
It gives me "Discharging', when just turned off and connected to PC.
I was f****d when i had just s-offed my Sensation, and went out of battery. So I'm too skeptical about all this
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We can wait a few days and it will clear!

Solidus_n313 said:
thats the easiest way, ive found ;P
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
imo ROM manager is the easiest way

[q] someone help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think i bricked my sensation cus i turned it off and it dont turn back on it wasnt dead when i was flashing a rom??
It dont want to do anything not even go into recovery at all what do i do?

LOL WHOA...
stop freaking out lol do your self a favor
what had you done before you turned it off? (flash a rom? flash a mod? flash anything? drop it in water lol?)
give some info lets see if we can help. you probably just need to boot into recovery and reboot

bord1er said:
I think i bricked my sensation cus i turned it off and it dont turn back on it wasnt dead when i was flashing a rom??
It dont want to do anything not even go into recovery at all what do i do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Battery Dead ? Plug It In
Did you Pull That Battery ? Wait A Few Minutes And Then Try to turn it on ?

rddocke said:
LOL WHOA...
stop freaking out lol do your self a favor
what had you done before you turned it off? (flash a rom? flash a mod? flash anything? drop it in water lol?)
give some info lets see if we can help. you probably just need to boot into recovery and reboot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
check it out i flashed a rom right and it didnt want to boot into recovery so i took the battery out and it never turned on again????

Plug it in let it charge a bit. If the orange light blinks four times and turns off, then you need to do a battery swap.
If it charges then let it charge boot unto recovery and restore your backup. I hope you made a backup.
Which Rom were you flashing?

rddocke said:
Plug it in let it charge a bit. If the orange light blinks four times and turns off, then you need to do a battery swap.
If it charges then let it charge boot unto recovery and restore your backup. I hope you made a backup.
Which Rom were you flashing?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nothing comes on

Mate, you're really not helping yourself here. Can you please give a step-by-step of what you were trying to do and a bit more information as to what happened when it didn't go to plan?
e.g. I was trying to flash a new ROM. The ROM update completed successfully but upon rebooting it wouldn't turn on.
The above example gives a bit more insight as to the situation

EddyOS said:
Mate, you're really not helping yourself here. Can you please give a step-by-step of what you were trying to do and a bit more information as to what happened when it didn't go to plan?
e.g. I was trying to flash a new ROM. The ROM update completed successfully but upon rebooting it wouldn't turn on.
The above example gives a bit more insight as to the situation
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this is what i happend i flash a 3.5 sense rom on my sensation it didnt get any signal so i tryed to go into recovery threw rom manager and it didnt want to so i took the battery out and put it back in and it never turned on from their nothing turns on not the charging light or anything
and no it wasnt dead when i tryed so its not the battery

bord1er said:
this is what i happend i flash a 3.5 sense rom on my sensation it didnt get any signal so i tryed to go into recovery threw rom manager and it didnt want to so i took the battery out and put it back in and it never turned on from their nothing turns on not the charging light or anything
and no it wasnt dead when i tryed so its not the battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pop the battery out for about 10 minutes then put it back in and try charging the battery. Also try charging from a different power source like an AC adapter or via your computers USB port. If the battery light doesn't come on then your battery is most likely dead and you may need to find a replacement.

bord1er said:
this is what i happend i flash a 3.5 sense rom on my sensation it didnt get any signal so i tryed to go into recovery threw rom manager and it didnt want to so i took the battery out and put it back in and it never turned on from their nothing turns on not the charging light or anything
and no it wasnt dead when i tryed so its not the battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you said you didnt get any signal. dude you prolly didnt flashed the correct radios. some roms tells you witch radio you need before flashing the rom. not all the roms have the correct radios due of a lot of sensation worldwide. had you tried to go into fastboot at all by holding power and vol down at the same time.

Aegishua said:
Pop the battery out for about 10 minutes then put it back in and try charging the battery. Also try charging from a different power source like an AC adapter or via your computers USB port. If the battery light doesn't come on then your battery is most likely dead and you may need to find a replacement.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes battery swap as I mentioned.
On a side note
Can anyone tell me why that is the only solution to the problem when the phone dies down like this
Thisy wife let's her phone die alllll the time and I constantly have to swap mine and her battery.

A Warning for TWRP 2.3.1.0

If you let the phone battery run down, it will not, I repeat WILL NOT boot back up out of recovery.
When I plug the charger in it just boot it right back into recovery, which we all know won't charge the battery.
Pull the battery, put battery back in, plug in the charger....boot right back into recovery.
Power off from recovery with charger still plugged in...boot right back up in recovery.
Reboot system from recovery...boot right back up in recovery.
No way to charge the battery without getting out of recovery first.
No way to boot out of recovery without enough juice in the battery.
I had to use the extended battery (spare) to boot up the phone and...well you guest it...to flash the "other" recovery to get it working normal again.
Thunderbolt
Miui
TWRP 2.3.1.0
Works fine on earlier version, if this is a false alarm, then please delete.
Update: After reading through a few forums, TWRP might be able to charge while in recovery. It doesn't work for me.

That's a +1 for 4ext. It let's you charge the battery in recovery.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk 2

Your phone should charge in the powered off state though.

Thought so too but I know for a fact that cwm boots you into recovery as soon as there is enough juice to boot. Then having the screen on starting what little there is left. I know because I dealt with that for a month before I realized that my stock battery finally took a drive and wasn't retaining a full charge anymore.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app

Its recovery 101 never mess with recovery unless you have a decent charge. You are just asking for trouble. I agree it makes 4ext look better because you can charge while in its recovery. If you let your phone die in recovery then you deserve it. Not to sound harsh but for the longest time when devs post roms they said make sure your battery is charged before flashing the rom. You think they was joking? lol

I remember having to do that with the Droid Eris.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk 2

I think what he means is, if you let your phone die normally, then plug it in to charge, it will boot to recovery. I had that happen to me when i first tried clockwork touch.
Sent from my Liquid ICS Bolt

Let me clear it up a bit.
If there's not enough juice in the battery to boot up the phone. If you push and hold the power button and nothing happen then you're screwed.
As soon as you plug in the charger, it will boot right to TWRP. you can not stop it from booting into TWRP, when you power it off from within TWRP it will boot right back into TWRP as long as the charger is connected.
Bottom Line:
If your battery went dead (under normal usage condition) and you don't have a good spare. You are SCREWED. This is a FATAL bug.
There's no way to charge a dead battery.
DarkJedi thinks that I'm in TWRP while the phone went dead. The answer is NO. The battery went dead under standby.

Dark Jedi said:
Its recovery 101 never mess with recovery unless you have a decent charge. You are just asking for trouble. I agree it makes 4ext look better because you can charge while in its recovery. If you let your phone die in recovery then you deserve it. Not to sound harsh but for the longest time when devs post roms they said make sure your battery is charged before flashing the rom. You think they was joking? lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're not understanding the post. This has nothing to do with messing with TWRP. Battery went dead under normal using condition, has nothing to do with recovery.

Shadow Death said:
Your phone should charge in the powered off state though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the problem, it will not power down out of TWRP, as soon as you plug in the charger it will boot right back into TWRP.

It has the same cwm bug there used to be. When you plug the phone in to charge it boots into recovery.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using Tapatalk 2

That's good to know, I had been using TWRP on my Thunderbolt so I guess it's time to switch back to 4ext, i just wish there was software keyboard support in 4ext.
Also with a note, I had this problem the op had when using TWRP on my Asus Transformer, actually strangely, while the recovery was installed it would not charge the device at all, not even when turned off. Once TWRP was taken off of it, and CWM back on, it charged properly. After using TWRP I can say for some reason this recovery has some serious game changing bugs.
EDIT: Also, "Boot Manager" doesn't seem to be compatible with restoring backups made with TWRP.

Give this build a shot and see if it fixes the charging:
http://techerrata.com/dees_troy/mecha.img

Ellises said:
That's good to know, I had been using TWRP on my Thunderbolt so I guess it's time to switch back to 4ext, i just wish there was software keyboard support in 4ext.
Also with a note, I had this problem the op had when using TWRP on my Asus Transformer, actually strangely, while the recovery was installed it would not charge the device at all, not even when turned off. Once TWRP was taken off of it, and CWM back on, it charged properly. After using TWRP I can say for some reason this recovery has some serious game changing bugs.
EDIT: Also, "Boot Manager" doesn't seem to be compatible with restoring backups made with TWRP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No idea what your trouble with the Transformer were but charging on the Transformer isn't done in recovery and changing recovery wasn't the fix.
The Thunderbolt & most all HTC devices made after it use recovery for charging. There's a handful of HTC binaries & a special init.rc that make the device charge while turned off. None of this is part of the recovery code so it's not inherent to TWRP itself.

Dees_Troy said:
Give this build a shot and see if it fixes the charging:
http://techerrata.com/dees_troy/mecha.img
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my port is busted so i cant test charging but the build does work

Another tester confirmed that it was fixed in that version, so I have updated everything.

[Q] Sensation wont boot or charge

Hello
I have an s-off htc sensation with cm10 and recovery etc its been running great for ages with this setup.
The phone completely ran out of battery and shut down. I left it on charge overnight and in the morning it would not switch on.
I have read a LOT of threads on here and elsewhere about this issue and have tried the fixes you guys have suggested for similer issues (usb charging, new battery, battery pulls)
I dont think that the usb debugging mode was enabled on my phone so i cant use the commands to restart it etc
When charging, the orange light blinks for about 5 seconds, then is on constantly until the phone boots all on its own to the htc logo screen, then goes black with no orange light. (it did this with the old dead battery and the new one)
any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks

Such a great problem you have :crying: well, you can try re-flashing the ROM again. If it is not working maybe it is the ROM weakness. AOKP (your ROM series) is more unstable than AOSP ROM (like Android Revolution HD, ViperS, JB MIUI, and other).
The most possible reason for your problem is your ROM, so if re-flashing the rom does not help you, you can try flash a AOSP ROM. May the force be with you
When my advice helps you, try the THANKS button
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Device : HTC Sensation XE, S-ON
ROM : ViperS 1.52
Kernel : Bricked Kernel
Recovery : 4EXT Touch Recovery
MOD : jerrytan93 mod for ViperS ROM
Body : Little scratch because my sister dropped it thanks for my case, for covering

Very strange that a new battery didn't fix this... same thing happened to me but mine died while charging some how and I didn't even have a charging light! However, in my case a brand new battery fixed my issue instantly. You can try a new rom if you can somehow flash it and see if it helps.. one question, was the other battery you tired new? Just curious? Hope you can get this issue resolved. If the battery you tired wasn't new in last effort if nothing else works, try a new battery. Like I said, it worked for me.. I wish I could be of more help. Best of luck and keep us informed. I've read of this happening when battery is ran out before and I wish I knew what causes this.. very strange. Good luck
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

realsis said:
Very strange that a new battery didn't fix this... same thing happened to me but mine died while charging some how and I didn't even have a charging light! However, in my case a brand new battery fixed my issue instantly. You can try a new rom if you can somehow flash it and see if it helps.. one question, was the other battery you tired new? Just curious? Hope you can get this issue resolved. If the battery you tired wasn't new in last effort if nothing else works, try a new battery. Like I said, it worked for me.. I wish I could be of more help. Best of luck and keep us informed. I've read of this happening when battery is ran out before and I wish I knew what causes this.. very strange. Good luck
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup the battery was brand new off amazon....
Any ideas of how I can flash a rom without being able to boot into recovery?

Some one else might know this answer but have you tried, pulling battery, putting battery back in, immediately press power and volume down and hold it... recovery should pop up after that. Then go to wipe and wipe data factory reset, then install rom, or you can go to backup restore and restore your nandroid back up. Try to get into recovery this way. Hope it helps let me know. Best wishes. If you did try, couldn't hurt to try again keep hold of volume down and power and see if recovery will boot. If not you might be able to do it though computer but I can't help with that. Maybe someone else can help with fast boot commands on the computer. But it would hurt to try to pull battery again. And give it a go. Good luck
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

realsis said:
Some one else might know this answer but have you tried, pulling battery, putting battery back in, immediately press power and volume down and hold it... recovery should pop up after that. Then go to wipe and wipe data factory reset, then install rom, or you can go to backup restore and restore your nandroid back up. Try to get into recovery this way. Hope it helps let me know. Best wishes. If you did try, couldn't hurt to try again keep hold of volume down and power and see if recovery will boot. If not you might be able to do it though computer but I can't help with that. Maybe someone else can help with fast boot commands on the computer. But it would hurt to try to pull battery again. And give it a go. Good luck
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for helping but this isn't working either! If anyone knows how to boot into boot loader using a pc that would be very helpful.

harleyato said:
When charging, the orange light blinks for about 5 seconds, then is on constantly until the phone boots all on its own to the htc logo screen, then goes black with no orange light.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i assume it stays on at least after booting
if yes then connect it to pc
go to the folder where you have adb and fastboot files and open a command window there
then do
adb
adb devices
adb reboot bootloader
see if it works

rzr86 said:
i assume it stays on at least after booting
if yes then connect it to pc
go to the folder where you have adb and fastboot files and open a command window there
then do
adb
adb devices
adb reboot bootloader
see if it works
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No the phone screen just goes black after the HTC screen and sometimes randomly flashes grey!? So the computer cannot detect it when connected by usb .
Really need to get to recovery it seems

This happened to me the other day, I have a charger that came with the battery off amazon and I gave it a full charge on that. After I put it in fully charged my phone was fine. I was nearly fully through flashing when this happened. I got back to bootloader and flashed 4ext recover and flashed my rom.

Charlie3999 said:
This happened to me the other day, I have a charger that came with the battery off amazon and I gave it a full charge on that. After I put it in fully charged my phone was fine. I was nearly fully through flashing when this happened. I got back to bootloader and flashed 4ext recover and flashed my rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool could you post a link? Thanks

harleyato said:
Cool could you post a link? Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.amazon.co.uk/1900mAh-Bat...K7YS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1356828192&sr=8-3