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I sat on my Fuze :(

Hi all,
I sat on my Fuze, short and simple. There is now a weird crack on the screen. I am very familiar with what a broken LCD looks like, there is no LCD "liquid" oozing all over the place, and the picture is not distorted in any way. It looks like some kind of lens INSIDE might be broken, and I think it's the digitizer. The cracks stop once they get to the dark grey at&t/HTC border around the screen, even though I hit very close to it, so whatever I cracked is under the top lens/protector.
Also, I read online (albeit at a cell phone repair website) that you can't replace the digitizer without ruining the LCD. Is there any merit to this, or are they just trying to convince people to pay their obscene $149 to replace a $30 part?
So I guess I have two questions:
Did I break the digitizer, the topmost lens, or somehow the LCD glass without damaging the LCD itself?
How hard is this to replace?
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EDIT: I ordered this on April 17th. Fat chance AT&T will do anything about it, right?

That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....

wxy117 said:
That looks like just the digitizer... I purchased the digitizer already, but haven't gotten the chance to take it apart yet.... to be honest I'm very nervous about taking it apart.. I'm still trying to figure out how to split the two pieces apart (the keyboardbase and the slide screen....
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If I'm not mistaken (and I might be), all this should take is removing the two small phillips head screws on the back of the screen that show when the phone is slid open. I landed on this thing while it was open, and drove my knee right into the screen, I'm surprised I didn't break anything else.

There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5

wxy117 said:
There are three more screws that you can't see behind the screen.... when its slid open you can only see 2 screws... There are actually 5
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So we do have to take the whole damn thing apart?
Does anyone have any luck with AT&T replacing things that are clearly accidental damage? With all the horror stories I hear about refurbished phones and the chance that they might send me one, I'd actually rather take my chances at fixing this. I've taken apart a ton of phones and fixed them before, and worked at a cell phone repair shop for a few months. I still have most of my tools lying around, including all the screw drivers I'd need to open this.
I was able to find an HTC service manual that doesn't really explain how to replace the digitizer. It does describe how to get it in two pieces, but I wouldn't know where to go from there.

I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.

wxy117 said:
I have the digitizer in my hand... There is a thing that hooks up to the phone itself so yes i'm pretty sure you have to take apart the entire thing.... I think i'm gonna take the phone to NYC and have someone that knows what they're doing repair it. I tried to get warrenty repair, but they said no because it is accidental damage. i pretty much tried everything before I ordered a new screen.
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Found a good complete disassembly guide in Russian, why does the screen have to be the LAST thing to come out? I am now looking to buy an LCD/digitizer combo, but I can only find the one from Brando that is made for regular HTC Touch Pros, and not the Fuze (has a camera cutout instead of the AT&T logo).
If I end up having to replace the LCD I'd much rather break it trying to save $50 than just toss it. Is it really that hard to separate the digitizer from the LCD?
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has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?

wxy117 said:
has anyone had success separating the Digitizer and the LCD screen?
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Well, we'll find out. I ordered both an AT&T Fuze digitizer by itself as well as an LCD with a digitizer attached. I'm just going to go ahead and replace everything with the combination unit and see if I can replace my broken digitizer without breaking my LCD in my free time. If it works, I have a spare or I can sell it

be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....

wxy117 said:
be careful I got my digitizer and they sent me the wrong one. They sent me one for a sprint touch pro....
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Hopefully I'll get it right, I made sure to order an AT&T Fuze digitizer that made it clear it wasn't for use with Sprint Touch Pros or Touch Pros with front facing camera.
The LCD+digitizer I ordered though may very well show up as any of the above, if they're not already attached I'm going to use the AT&T Fuze digitizer on the new LCD, and try and make a new working combo from my old LCD to resell. I'll make a detailed step by step with photos as well.

Don't forget to read this

They just sent out my new one today.... So anyone that needs a digitizer for the Fuze by Sprint hit me up.... They told me to keep it so now I have an extra digitizer that doesn't work for my phone...

I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!

pisqle said:
I think I can help you cos I repaired LCD and digitizer on Raphael a week ago. Digitizer and LCD are two separate parts joined by flat printed wires. If you need to change just one of them you will need to take apart whole phone.
Raphael consists from 2 main parts - 1. that one with keyboard 2nd part with LCD. You have to take apart both what is quite hard to realize if you this for the first time.
Once you are with your LCD you will see the flat wires grom lcd and digitizer meerged. Split them with your solddering gun carefully! Take new digitizer and solder flat wires together. Anyway there is no glue or liquid fluit or whatever between digitizer and LCD. But - remeber especially those who replacing just LCD - there is kind of black tape around the backside of LCD part (the silver side) - take it apart from old lcd and move to new one. If you dont you will see the rainbow on your LCD but just after assembling whole device together - it is quite concerning if you find out this kinf of malfunction just after such a hard work like a assembling this hellmade device
Good luck to everyone!
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Thank you for some rather broken, but very helpful advice. Kinda sucks that I'm really happy since I don't have to worry about removing any adhesive, but now I have to sit here and solder flex cables. I shoulda bought a spare one
Do they ship these parts on pigeons from Hong Kong?

To anyone counting on being able to separate the LCD from the digitizer, DON'T. There is absolutely no way to separate them without destroying either or both. Also, take extreme caution when peeling up the flex cable, it is very easy to tear (I tore mine).
So my net cost, 80 + 50, LCD/Digitizer and Flex Cable = $130 vs. sending it to HTC $150. I advise anyone to just pay them rather than take this thing apart.

from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*

wxy117 said:
from my understanding people have done it before... Maybe you just had bad luck? Well we'll see when my screen comes in *crossing fingers*
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Fact of the matter is when people say this is a delicate phone to take apart, they mean it. I worked at a cell phone repair store for a few weeks, and learned how to take apart damn near anything (thank God this was before the iPhone existed). Not only are both flex cables in this phone taped down in 100 different places, making them very easy to tear while removing the tape, the adhesive used between the LCD and digitizer is STRONG. If you really wanted to separate them, you might have some luck with a straight edge and maybe an hour. Good luck, I'll let you all know how this turns out once I have my new flex cable, since I conveniently tore the volume buttons off the original.

I just got my screen today so we're gonna see some time next week how we do on this screen replacement....I'll let you know how it goes....

So far no luck with my digitizer. Has anyone had any luck just changing out the digitizer yet? The guy that was suppose to do mine is backing out because he doesn't want to risk cracking my LCD. I don't blame him thats the reason I didn't do it. sheik124 what are you doing with your damaged fuze? Are you sending it to HTC for repairs?

Cracked digitizer. Expensive for repairs. Suggestions...

As the title states I have a cracked digitizer. Do not think the LCD is damaged as the display works fine and there are no signs of bleeding. I have gone through here and read several threads about replacing the digitizer/screen and have also contacted HTC about repairs. Buying a digitizer myself will only cost about $30-40. However; I have read threads on differences in the digitizers as well as when self-replacing there is a HIGH probability of dust, fingerprints and response being not up to par. Now to just send it in would be somewhere around $160 and I would know it is perfect. What are your guys' thoughts? And if you have done the repair yourself please let me know how it was.

I replaced an LCD and digitizer on mine and it wasn't too bad. I also own an HTC HD2, that phone was hell to replace the digitizer, I failed and sold it all in pieces. This phone however, was much easier, and I left NO specs of dust under the screen. Just make sure to replace it after a hot shower, and use a duster. On a random note, I bought another hd2 that had a new digitizer replaced on Craigslist, it has dust under it that I didn't notice -_-. Don't forget to check!

Yeah. I was thinking about just doing it myself. Only thing is the thing with the different digitizers. Supposedly it makes the screen laggy or even unresponsive if you have the wrong one. That's what I have read. Not really too sure though...

Try this post, replacement digitizer and instruction video.

Sweet. I will definitely check it out. At the moment I am fiddling around with my new SGS2 so the Sensation is taking a nap
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joshv06 said:
I replaced an LCD and digitizer on mine and it wasn't too bad. I also own an HTC HD2, that phone was hell to replace the digitizer, I failed and sold it all in pieces. This phone however, was much easier, and I left NO specs of dust under the screen. Just make sure to replace it after a hot shower, and use a duster. On a random note, I bought another hd2 that had a new digitizer replaced on Craigslist, it has dust under it that I didn't notice -_-. Don't forget to check!
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Huh HD2... Yes I had same trouble... Mine was refurbished when I bought it and guess what? It was fu****g super glued together! I spent 2 hours just to open it.
Later on, I thought only digitizer was cracked but when I removed it (1,5 hours) I found out that LCD is damaged too (on the edges). Just to be sure, I ordered touch+LCD already assembled (dust free of course) and I`m waiting for it now...
I also got me a newSensation XE which is definitly A LOT easier to dissasemble...
Try it yourself, you can always send it back to offical repair centre...

Could you link me to where you got your assembly? It may be easier and more beneficial for me to just get the complete kit and call it a day.
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Found somewhere that does it for $80. Might just do that. Don't wanna deal with the hassle of tearing it apart...
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[Q] Replacement Digitizer Problem

So I finally replaced my cracked screen and I've been having issues with my new digitizer. It's one of the LG digitizers, not the ones that say T-Mobile at the top. When you touch the extreme left side of the screen, it acts like you're touching the extreme right side of the screen at the same time. It's very weird - when I try to capitalize, it also backspaces, and my a's all have l's after them - stuff like that. It's like that all the way from the top of the screen to the bottom.
I got in there and cleaned a couple of specks of dust that I had accidentally left between the digitizer and LCD screen and it didn't seem to help. I used compressed air to clean the contact where the digitizer ribbon cable connects to the motherboard and tried to get the ribbon cable itself to sit under the motherboard nice and straight (I had a little trouble with it the first time and it could have been crooked, I guess, but I'm not sure if that would even matter.) I've also tried soft reboots, removing the battery, full wipes, and even have experimented with a few different ROMs. Acts exactly the same.
What do you guys think? Do I have a bad digitizer or is there something else I could try to get it to work properly? Thanks!

I buy broken phones of Craigslist and fix them. I have put digitizers on 4 g2x as of yet never had that problem. I'd make sure the connections were nice clean and seated correctly. I see you've done that so my conclusion is that you have a faulty unit. Run a calibration app and see if that helps
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I had bought a digitizer with the LG logo on it and it was not as senseative to the touch and as well when touching the left or right sides of it where off a little. I used the ones with the T Moble logo and all works like new.
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Different digitizer replacement issue
Stopfakn said:
I buy broken phones of Craigslist and fix them. I have put digitizers on 4 g2x as of yet never had that problem. I'd make sure the connections were nice clean and seated correctly. I see you've done that so my conclusion is that you have a faulty unit. Run a calibration app and see if that helps
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Hi, my screen cracked, so I got a replacement digitizer and installed it. When I reassembled the phone, it worked fine, except the buttons at the bottom (home, back, etc.) and the bottom 15% of the touch screen do not register. The rest of the touch screen works fine.
Do you know if that part is connected differently from the rest of the phone? Or any other reason it might be broken.
This may be dumb on my part, but my package didn't come with adhesive, so I used superglue. Could that be messing up the sensor somewhere? Or is it not likely that?
Any thoughts/comments would be greatly appreciated.

You probably got some glue in the wrong place. I used 3M double sided adhesive, that way I could be exact with the placement
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Superglue + Electronics = BAD!
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justjackyl said:
Superglue + Electronics = BAD!
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Hah what he said.
You should never use glue of any sort on electronics. If the manufacturers don't do it, then you surely shouldn't.

screen scrambled after digitizer replacement

So I replaced my digitizer, and after reassembling the phone, now the screen is all scrambled, as in the picture. It actually reacts to touches so the new digitizer is working. So did I connect something wrong, or is the screen just broken? Anybody else got a screen like this?

Looks like the lcd is shot. Maybe it just needs to be reconnected, give that a shot first.
When I was replacing iphone screens I've had similar occurances with a poorly connected cable.
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You need a new LCD screen too.

I've ordered a new screen. I've tried taking it apart and reassembling again, but the screen came up the same.

I have a parts g2x that did the same thing, I can take the main board out it and use it in another. So it's definitely screen/lcd related.
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[Q] Screen Repair

Long story short, screen got cracked after dropping it for the first time. Asked around, most places are telling me it would cost me well over $200 to fix it. They also offered to buy it, seemed kinda scam-ish to me. Anyways I am wondering if I should replace both the digitizer and the lcd together or attempt to just replace the digitizer. Not sure if anyone here has had experience with this or similar phones, any thoughts?

i have had to replace cracked screen on my sensation once - i had no idea of digitizers and lcds back then so i took it to a local service centre and they had it fixed for 75$ or something if i remember correct .
why fix it if it ain't broken ?

I just replaced my screen and you really should get the lcd and digitizer. I bought the combo off ebay for about $80 and it took about an hour to swap. It's not easy, but definitely doable. The lcd and digitizer are glued together so it's extremely difficult to replace one and not the other without breaking something.
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I just replaced my screen and you really should get the lcd and digitizer. I bought the combo off ebay for about $80 and it took about an hour to swap. It's not easy, but definitely doable. The lcd and digitizer are glued together so it's extremely difficult to replace one and not the other without breaking something.
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Where exactly did you buy the part if you don't mind my asking? Is it the same quality as the original screen, as far as brightness, color, and sharpness are concerned?
Thanks in advance. About to attempt the same on a One X I picked up from a friend