[Q] Moving app from WM6 to WP7 - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What does the forum think about re-moulding an app from WM65 to WP7? I have been advised to change platforms to android and ios but as I have no experience of either feel WP7 is a good platform for my commercial app. Would WM6 be a commercially viable platform to use sw on? The app works great but it's simply a question of some feeling I should move to something "newer".
One of my contacts said he felt the WP7 was the next betamax - but he does love his iphone4.
Look forward to hearing your comments.

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Is HTC Sense UI on Android identical to Windows Mobile?

Is HTC’s Sense UI identical on Android and Windows Mobile? I’m trying to decide on a new phone this month – HTC HD2 versus HTC Supersonic. I’m leaning towards the Supersonic, but really like how Sense looks on the HD2.
I understand that there would be differences in system configuration, etc., but am mostly interested in core Sense UI functionality.
Thanks in advance!
They really aren't that much the same. You still get the retro clock but the Android SenseUI is very much different than the WM one.
The thing with the Android version is that it does not truly replace the shell the way the WM version does. On Android it enhances the widgets and the home screens but the underlying functions of the app tray, etc. is still Android. I imagine the reason for this is because Android is already much more modern than WM from the start.
@naplsbill - Thanks for the info!
From my understanding(haven't use Sense on WM, but have an Android phone w/Sense) and the contact management is similar among both phones. I want to say the speed dialing works the same, but I am not too sure of that.
sense is just an overlay of both winmo and android
sense on winmo enhanced the experience if u dont go into the system much for finding a file you downloaded or such
android with sense is an "enhancement" to the android experience
winmo with sense is a cover up of microsofts horrible work on a mobile operating system
ive owned both types phone
a tp2 and a g1 mytouch and nexus
im not a fanboy or anything
but when it comes to great experience i choose htc/google android/sense user experience. it does a better job of the phrase "getting things done" and if u have a gmail account getting an android phone is very helpful with keeping up with stuff
my whole life is on google
tasks, calendars, photos, gmail (3 accounts)
so in the end it comes down to u but this is my experience
the supersonic btw is SICKKKKKKKKKKK
bigballa said:
android with sense is an "enhancement" to the android experience
winmo with sense is a cover up of microsofts horrible work on a mobile operating system
ive owned both types phone
a tp2 and a g1 mytouch and nexus
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Amazing arrant nonsense. I have had many winMo phones and used Hero, Moto Cliq and my Touch 3g and the winmo interface is light years ahead of the crude looking android.
HTC interface is excellent on both TP2 and Hero and it is a"cover up of" microsofts and google's "horrible work on a mobile operating system". Actually the HTC sense enhances the interface of both android and winmo. It actually makes basic functions look alike on both platforms.
im not a fanboy or anything
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Really?!
haha okay...
well i am not a fanboy
i appreciate both OS's
but when it comes down to choice its all about how you like your information given to you
some people like it the winmo sense way and some people like it the android sense way...
i side with the android sense way/regular android way
cuz you can customize what info you want
sense UI on droid and WM
I had several WM mobile devices and played with a few andriod devices. I definitely think the way the UI animate and stuff on both platform are completey not a like. lets create a list of things we can use to compare. I will start with the wm list since i currently own the hd2 and can someone create a list for the droid. i definetely getting the evo so i would like to know what to expect.
thank you to all.
wm sense UI:
contact photo sync with myphone and oulook (no photo id downscaled issue)
animated weather and wallpaper
animated foolprint
silder bar
s2u2 - fullscreen callid
lame that it can only sync with one active sync account unlike the pre
good that it does not sync all the fb contact like the pre. super anoying on the pre
droid sense UI: (please list)

Best mobile OS for staying organized?

I just wanted to know what are people's thoughts about what they think is the most effective OS for mobile phones in terms of staying organized (task manager, agendas, etc.)...
Would this go to Blackberry OS?
I used to have a Nokia phone running Symbian S60, and I thought that the list of upcoming calendar entries on the homescreen, along with recent emails was really convenient.
As much as I love Android, I just find it a little underwhelming in terms of staying organized... and I can't quite put my finger on it, but the standard calendar app just seems really difficult to use.
No idea about RIM, but I would go with older versions of winmo, or palm os
cmstackar said:
No idea about RIM, but I would go with older versions of winmo, or palm os
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By Palm OS, does that also mean Web OS on the Pre?
WinMo 6.1 or 6.5
I'm using both WinMo & Android.
In my opinion, WinMo 6.1 or 6.5 help me stay organized better. I like apps like Notes & Tasks from WinMo, & those are default apps out of the box.
Plain old WinMo today screen (no Sense or Titanium) might fit with what you are looking for well.
Just a simple list of upcomming appointments and tasks on your home screen. I've always found the default WinMo calander app to be powerful and easy enough to use even if it is not the most finger friendly thing in the world. And there are many today screen plugins out there to help you customize it exactly to your needs.
I prefer Android and a calendar widget from the market...
You could also consider using Pocket Informant on iPhone. No jailbreaking needed. If you want all critical information at one glacé on the lockscreen, then jailbreak and use lockinfo, or intelliscreen.
Surprised that you don't like Android. I would expect it to be quite good due to it's wizards and notifications features. The stock calendar and todo feature might be lacking but surely there are 3rd party software to make up for the deficiencies.
It's not the OS but the applications that you be conceremed eith IMHO.
Windows mobile 6.5.X all the time!
I will have to say the tp2 imo
Thanks for all the suggestions. I took these few days to check out some of the phones running on Windows Mobile, but many of them are very... bulky (compared to something like the Nexus One or even the Nokia that I had before).
Android Agenda Widget keeps a list of upcoming tasks on your homescreen.
I tried BlackBerry and I'm back on Windows Mobile due to the lack of capability for my needs on the BB platform. Certain things that I expected coming from WM and Palm long ago, just do not exist on the BB platform. The default task app on WM is not up to the size of my task list, but PocketInformant fills the PIM function nicely and has been developed for so long there is just nothing close that I have found. I was able to find a good task application (good functionality, but terrible aesthetics). On the BB calendar there isn't even a category field, so there is no way to differentiate your various appointment (icons, color, etc.) like you can easily do in WM. There are alternative calendar application, but they are not as feature rich as you will find on WM and many lack the ability to sync the extra features (icons, colors, categories, etc) to Outlook due to their reliance on standard BlackBerry sync. Also realize that the capability of the BlackBerry on BIS is very different than on BES. BIS just lacks way to much in my opinion and I was never able to try on BES. My wife is using Android and it works well for her, but the lack of tasks was a deal breaker for me. I have high hopes for Android and hope it improves quickly.

QIK-Livestream

Hello guys...i need your help...
I cant find the QIK program for livestream with HD2...
Do you have any ideas?
Hi, AFAIK Qik does not have a working client for the HD2. Ironic considering it's one of the most powerful smartphones. I think they've been pressed by the competition to not support the HD2 and threatened them that they will change their terms and conditions specifically to block their software from their marketplace ;-)
Guys dont be suprised. Windows Phone will be relased soon, so im SURE, that Microsoft pressing developers to not relase apps for WM 5 and 6.
Maybe you think im crazy, but Google some in Internet. Last news informing, that Microsoft employees got free Windows Phones from they bosses, but they must everyone must write apps for this platform. M$ "fat fishes" giving even all needed STK's and tools to start programing now.
Other news is that M$ will pay to external companies if they will rewrite iPhone apps to Windows Phone.
So only future which i see for HD2 is Android ROM's.
Just use Google and find that.

[Q] Emulating Windows Mobile 6.x on Android

Hey Guys,
1) sorry if this has come up before, search-fu is weak and nothign relevant seems to come up with the "Similar threads" thing.
2) My provider has all but forced me off Windows Mobile, which is fine, since with sideloading being such a hard task on WM7, and that I would have to pay alot to get a WM7 handset and go up monthly fees too, i'm not too fussed.
So i've taken the plunge and gone for an Android phone, trouble is I have a few apps on my old windows mobile device I would love to run on Android... number 1 priority being TomTom Navigator, which yes, I could repay for, but I don't see why I should have to.
So, is there any software in the works that will let me run Windows Mobile based apps on an Android phone?
many thanks
Sorry for bringing an old topic back into the daylight, but I have the same thought. I definately need some apps of WM running on Android when I'll buy my new phone, so this kind of emulator would be a major reason to switch from my outdated Touch Pro. Couldn't something like Haret be created, just to run Windows Mobile, not Android?
There is no, for now
thanks for clearing that out, that's a pitty. But how about the future? Is it at least theorically possible to create something to have this kind of dual boot? Would Android community and developers be interesting in this?
Yeah I wish that was possible, but no.

Windows Mobile - Services - less is NEVER more.

Once again Microsoft has made the decision to scale back features for Windows Mobile users.
I received an email from Microsoft today indicating that they would be ending the service of two more Windows Mobile FEATURES.
The first service to be cut this time isn't too bad. Microsoft is terminating the Marketplace website within a few months. The site is scheduled to go offline forever on July 15, 2011. You will still be able to utilize the Marketplace mobile application to buy and download applications. No big deal right???
Then comes the decision that really chaps my hyde.
Microsoft is also discontinuing the MyPhone service ALL TOGETHER!
I don't know about you, but that was one of the features that I use frequently & even influenced my decision to use Windows Mobile instead of Android or the iPhone.
Microsoft heavily touted this feature in their information and marketing materials. One of the things I PAID FOR was the ability to backup ans sync my device information and it's location on a daily basis. Many cooks use the MyPhone service & I don't know anbody that hasn't had to use it a time or two.
Microsoft is terminating completely, the MyPhone service, both the website & the mobile device application on August 7, 2011.
This is an absolute tragedy & a terrible decision in my opinion & the opinions of all the users I personally interact with.
This was a great service & something that really set Microsoft apart from many other platforms. Say your phone died, you are out of town on business & need your contact, out came the old backup device 7 wham, minutes later you had your texts, contacts, email & documents back in your hands.
What is even more saddening, Microsoft is trying to sell us on the fact that SkyDrive is the superior product, that they are somehow helping us out & giving us a better solution to use. Where is SkyDrive mobile? Does it help me find my lost device? Can SMS & email messages be backed up & downloaded straight to my device through a neat & nicely integrated application? THE ANSWER IS NO!!! MyPhone is great for road warriors & is used by so many people I know. Not just the app, but the website that also saved this information from my previous device as well.
All I can say is that this is a MAJOR disappointment!
So, why do I buy Microsoft when they kill everything a year or two later?
Well, before this it was because I was a loyal user since the days of CE. Microsoft had a great development platform & was innovative. They really were first on the scene with barcode scanning though Elure, (Remember the stick-on magnifying glass?) It was great, but they let it die.
How about the promise of a great speach to text and search application? Tell me? No, really, TellMe. Microsoft bought TellMe & promised us this great application that first was developed for Blackberry & then never followed through with the application for Windows Mobile users.
Why is it that Microsoft develops competing technologies & then always dumps one without regard for what user want & actually use? I just can't understand why they never integrate the popular features of one service into it's successor. Why should you go out & buy WP7, The OS that took forever to come out & that they are already replacing? In my opinion you shouldn't That should tell you something, because I have been an avid supporter of Windows Mobile from the start, before the start. (Can you say Pocket PC 2002).
I am looking more & more at Android & will most likely be making a new acquisition soon.
I got the same email and althought my phone still has a till is cut off completely (the start of the move to sky drive is on the date you stated) and i also have been an avid supporter of window mobile since the early days, a user since windows CE 2002 and now a developer of applications for the platform, I suddenly feel i am presneted with a choice. Go with windows mobile or android. This presents me with 3 problems. Firstly, i have a little less than a year on my contract before i can upgrade (i can't afford to go out and just buy a new phone right now) and, secondly, i hate android with a passion. Don't get me wrong, it suits most people and i'm not a MS fanboy (boy used loosely since i'm alomst 30) but i just don't like the UI and i miss the feature set CHT brought to my windows mobile device and before that how easy it was to get around the stock windows user interface. Last of all i've not seen anything on windows Phone 7 that would sway me. I'm not an xbox user, i use copy and paste alot (i know there is an update for that coming/out) and most of all, from my reading, i need to go and buy a new WP7 HTC device to get the most out of it and most of them suck!
So what do i do? get a nokia and screw up my work rate when i'm out of the office? Go android and hate every second of my life to the point i wish i'd bought a nokia? or go with windows phone 7 for my hd2 and suffer the pain of all the bugs of porting an OS to a phone it was never designed to run on?
The way i see it, right now, after having a few beers and being on the wrong side of sober, i might as well have been pushed off a building with the words "F**k you, A**hole!"
it seems we are really few users. only 16 posts about this ridiculous decision. see thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115987&page=2
Well as you see I'm a total noob and I claim the title proudly. So while I skewed your poll a little I did find this post to be very informative. I had actually never heard of MyPhone but after reading the passionate thread that sounds exactly like what I could have been using for quite some time now. Though this may be a long shot, if you do come across a program that is comparable to MyPhone would you be willing to share? As being able to easily sync and transfer my data from phone to phone has always been my largest/ chief complaint with any phone carrier.
and MyPhone is one of the key points to WHY I have a wm6.5 phone after all.. this, and compatibility with older mobile software.
If someone finds a replacement app, I would be glad to know it too.
I'm disappointed that Microsoft is getting rid of the service. It really helped with flashing ROMs and such things. Definitely not getting a WP7 phone when I upgrade.
First of all half of this article is confusing. The part regarding the Marketplace shut down is misleading. The only thing that is being discontinued from the marketplace is the website that we can access from our browsers. According to Microsoft's own website (link is in the email, I was confused at first as well).
Next, the MyPhone service is a pretty novel idea, but it's almost one way, you can only sync to the servers, but the servers only sync to your phone, why not just use PPCBackup then if it's going to be synced to one place anyways. It makes better sense now with Hotmails ActiveSync support to use that instead, the only downside being is some data isn't synced (text messages for example, but at least contacts (primary), calendar, email, and tasks are supported). I tried MyPhone before, but the limitation of it being stuck on the MyPhone server and not being able to share it anywhere else was the reason I never used it regularly. I wish they'd upgrade the service to use Windows Live, which would be an improvement over the current syncing.
probably it's not much people knowing this.... i myself never check my live mail mail box and only know microsoft decision right now.....
Cleary this is not as big a travesty as you think it is, not to take anything away from you but WIN MO is a dead platform. People always have a hard time admitting this but there are about 12 posts on this subject so I am pretty sure MSFT is not really feeling the heat about there decision. It like seeing someone who lived a full and happy life die, you are sad but know that there time has come, much like everything WIN MO related. I recommend you pick up an Android phone and move on.
Well MS are full of broken promises and dreams, they are keen to kill WM one way or another.
They brought out Visual Studio 2010 and spouted about how you can develop for mobile platforms using Express for free... and didn't mention that not only does Express not include WM in any form, but not even the pro version supports it. (It was even pushed from 2005 standard into 2008 pro only previously).
It's ok, because they promised they'd bring out an SDK...which is..oh nevermind, broken promise. You can't even use it to port your app on to windows phone or try to develop for both...dev friendly or what!
As for the app market...just closing the website...how long before they kill the app store too for WM, you know it will come soon after. They clearly want to push any WM user kicking and screaming on to windows phone, they are trying to do that to the devs too. Imagine if you've developed an app which is on the market for WM, well MS doesn't care anymore.
What form is the transfer to SkyDrive going to take? As of now, there is no support for sms messages/contacts data (oh please don't import them into my hotmail/live account...I never use the contacts there since they were always hacked). Do I have to port them into outlook or something, because for the same reason, I don't want to keep them there either. Let me guess, you will be able to import them into your windows phone 7 device without too many problems using the nice shiny app, and there will be a WM SkyDrive app erm...never (at least from MS). Still you get 20Gb of space which you can access on the move (from a device you don't have...).
For me, I see Windows Phone 7 a bit like Vista, with WM being XP. Yes it has fancy graphics and bells, but if you aren't using the latest hardware, XP does a half-decent job in the mean time.
The plus side, well there isn't much else which MS supply, unless they start to pull SDKs and other files off their sites (I noticed a while back they've removed most of the developer info and videos etc for WM - not just moved, but totally gone).
It's not like they were updating the OS apart from through leaked builds and besides compact .net 3.5 was getting messed up more and more by the poor updates anyway. Oh yeah they promised silverlight and compact .net 4 for wm too at one point, now we know that is a pipe dream. There was talk of keeping WM in some form as a business phone device which would live alongside WP.
Really inspires me to follow them with WP7, as a user and as a dev.
Android is a good option, but I still feel there are too many unknowns with it at the moment, since it is trying to support the latest hardware it is (and needs to) keep up. It's a moving target at the moment and it's not quite landed somewhere. Of course I'll play with it, but pointless investing too deeply in it quite yet, unless you've got spare cash of course.
iOS...it's solid, but it is still due for a big shake up me-thinks (I half expected iOS5 to do that), plus I don't want an iDevice.
@bradgog
Travesty? I think you mean tragedy. ;-)
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
I really do not want to move on from WinMo. I know it's impending, but I really do not like what I see from wp7. Android looks like the better alternative at this point I guess.
Becoming so accustomed to my device with all the programs and tweaks is just going to suck to have to give up. I knew this was coming, but it doesn;t make it any easier. Hell, only 5% of devices even have physical keyboards now. Seems that nothing is tailored for my likes.
It's very a sad news !!
I don't like WP7 and i don't want WP7 !
WM with HCT OEM Apps are a very good solutions....the HD2 is actually a best seller with a lot of possibility...
Just a question.....what about professionnal ? What about the "Windows Embedded Handeld" aka WM6.5.3 ?
The professionnal never want to use this WP7, and Microsoft said after the launch of WP7 that they would to continu a branch of WM for the pro ( WEH).
So what about this ???
Maybe we could contact Microsoft
What on earth are they thinking? surely MyPhone and Marketplace can't take up too much space on |Microsofts Servers!
I have had too move to Android, not liking Windows phone at all even including the Mango 7.5 update.
Mind you i have been through this before with Windows CE, Windows 2000 Profesesional, so it doesnt really come as much of a suprise.
Im still very unhappy though
Guys guys guys ...
Did you not hear MS telling all it's existing and previously most loyal customers to go f&%k themselves when they went down the WP7 route? They're into competing with Nokia and Apple now for children's phones.
We're all gonna have to get used to Android sooner or later. Just a bit sooner than expected for some that's all.
Come on into the Windows Phone pool, water's fine over here!
It's sad that they want to kill their older system so badly.
When I bought a phone a year ago, I chose Windows Mobile over others as it fit my preferences the best. According to the sales data I saw, I wasn't the only one. Last year a lot more people bought a Windows Mobile phone than a Windows Phone one. If it is true, Microsoft's decision strikes me as strange. They still support Windows XP that is two generations behind the current OS, while they refuse to support WM that is WP's direct predecessor.
well, learn about the news yesterday and i went out to find some replacement.... it turn out that google sync is a much better option for contact sync and calendar. But still, i haven't found others online backup services that's good for text messange backup.
still, it's a shock that microsoft turn down support in less than 2 years after discontinue winmo, there are still lots of people on contract with their winmo devices.
It is indeed a travesty!!
I have a car that is 7 years old, can still get parts easily for that?
There’s Apple with their new cloud, well if you think about it we all had part of that before apple ever thought about it in myphone.
I hear they are moving some of our files / pictures etc to Microsofts cloud, then why can’t they make that function like myphone for us???
I am sure they could, but NO they want us to move on to WM7.
Why would we want to move to a service that is SO VERY CLOSED DOWN before we start.
Microsoft will push our share of their market “US” probably over to Adroid!
Shame on you Microsoft, will you listen to loyal folk.
Paul.
P.S. See you all on the other Side maybe.
who cares ?
Microsoft is dead!

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