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JuiceDefender, Tasker, SetCPU + CM7: Battery Results

My phone's been running for 16 hours and 20 minutes on one charge, and the battery is at 59%. Not entirely sure if this is impressive or not, but I figured I'd share my settings. I'm on CM7 Nightly from the 13th.
JuiceDefender v3.4 Beta
Controls
Mobile Data - Enabled
Options - Prefer Wifi
WiFi - Enabled
3G - Off
Options - disable on wifi
Disable timeout - 5m
AutoSynch - ping
GPS - disabled
Everything else is left off​Schedules
Schedule - Enabled
Frequency - 1hr
Duration - 30s
Controls - Default
Night - Enabled
Start 12am - End 6am
Options - Silent
Schedule (weekend) - Enabled
Frequency - 30m
Duration - 1m
Night Weekend
Start 2am - End 8am​Triggers
Battery - Enabled
Battery Threshold - 35%
Charger AC
Screen - Enabled
Options - After Unlock
Controls - Default
Traffic - Enabled
Traffic Threshold - low
Apps - Enabled
Controls - Default
Location - Enabled​
SetCPU
Main
Max: 1017600 Min:245760​Profiles
Screen Off: 245 Max 245 Min Priority 100 Ondemand
Charging: 1017 Max 245 Min Priority 99 Performance
Battery <5% Max 368 Min 245 Min Priority 52 Conservative
Battery <50% Max 768 Min 245 Priority 50 Ondemand​
Tasker
Profile to manage Turning Bluetooth off from 8:30-16:30 M-F, Exit Case turns bluetooth back on
Profile to manage Turning Bluetooth off from 17:30-7:30 M-F Exit Case turns bluetooth back on.
Profile to manage brightness: Level 0, Auto Brightness off from 00:00 to 08:00 Exit Case restores Auto Brightness​

Very good info. I been holding off for to battery life. I might have to go visit the store tomorrow.
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I like the SetCPU settings, I have never messed with the profiles before but that looks like a good idea.
I will see how this goes first then maybe try JD.

Over night my phone finally got down to 1%. Topped out at 31 hours 20 minutes or so.

Jeffsmashkot said:
Over night my phone finally got down to 1%. Topped out at 31 hours 20 minutes or so.
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I'm monitoring with Current Widget and i'm noticing that my phone is deep sleeping and pulling down to as low as 1mA sometimes! I usually get about 24hrs or so, but I just applied some different setcpu profiles.
I also use Tasker to shut off mobile data in the middle of the night, then turn back on in the morning. I think it's pointless to leave it on and waste battery life while I'm sleeping.

Im going to try out Juice Defender. I had itw ith my Aria and it does work very well at saving battery life BUT on that phone it would cause some lag when switching networks on/off etc. On this phone hopefully it's fast enough to not notice the lagginess when switching networks.

I just did some major testing of the inspire power draw, and you guys are lucky. Compared to my nexus one, it is super efficient. The highest with screen on and pushing the phone hard, current would max at 400mA at max brightness. At 50% brightness current was steady at 230mA no matter what.
In comparison, my nexus one spikes to 700mA when showing white web pages, and around 180mA showing black. These spikes aren't good and no wonder nexus gets crap battery life.
I can see why they under spec the inspire battery, but I wish they didn't.

I'm going to try out your settings for a few days and see how it goes. Thanks.

Would you mind sharing the link for the juice defender. I've downloaded the newest beta and it says it cannot disable the cellular radio because it is not fully supported. Note I did flash it using the kernel with the battery fix posted on the forums. Do you think that could be the problem?

I just use SetCPU profiles and JuiceDefender in default mode. Immediate difference in battery life.
For testing purposes of CM7, I would leave my phone off the charger to see if the battery fix was working. Normally it would drop 15-20 percent sometimes more. With the SetCPU and Juice Defender, Just dropped 8 percent. WOOT!

hack2009 said:
Would you mind sharing the link for the juice defender. I've downloaded the newest beta and it says it cannot disable the cellular radio because it is not fully supported. Note I did flash it using the kernel with the battery fix posted on the forums. Do you think that could be the problem?
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In order to get the latest beta, you have to register on the forum to be part of the beta group.

I'm on Revolution 3.3. The current widget doesn't work. It doens't show anything. Any ideas?

[Q] How Do You Improve The Battery On V4 Rom?

How Do You Improve The Battery On V4 Rom?
Thanks for the help

Post a little about your setup:
- apps installed that run constantly (i.e. K9 mail, Wifi searching, etc)
- overclock values (if any)
- list your normal usage rates (rarely on the internet, playing music all the time, phone & mail only, etc.)
There are various ways to improve the battery life like SetCPU where you can slow the CPU down when it's not needed. Also, turn off your data when sleeping. Lot's of ways....need info first.

banshee56 said:
Post a little about your setup:
- apps installed that run constantly (i.e. K9 mail, Wifi searching, etc)
- overclock values (if any)
- list your normal usage rates (rarely on the internet, playing music all the time, phone & mail only, etc.)
There are various ways to improve the battery life like SetCPU where you can slow the CPU down when it's not needed. Also, turn off your data when sleeping. Lot's of ways....need info first.
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1. stock apps really ,
2. 1GHZ
3. internet used every 10 mins, dont play music, just stuff general

2G or 3G more? Wifi?
OK, what kind of battery life do you get?

battery
Follow the usual stuff. use 2g instead of 3g. disable WiFi when not in use. Additionally you can use your Milestone Overclock (included in ROM) to lower the maximum frequency of the chip. I use 1Ghz at 60 vsel. thats a bit overclocked but my battery life is fine. Anyways try that and see if it improves

sebastimau said:
Follow the usual stuff. use 2g instead of 3g. disable WiFi when not in use. Additionally you can use your Milestone Overclock (included in ROM) to lower the maximum frequency of the chip. I use 1Ghz at 60 vsel. thats a bit overclocked but my battery life is fine. Anyways try that and see if it improves
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thank you so much my vsel is 64 and now my battery lasts ages thank you
btw what does vsel mean?

vsel means voltage
btw I've learnt a vital way of saving juice from my local forum. use setcpu and set a profile for "screen off". put the cpu speed to 250max, priority 100, powersaver.
this successfully reduced my batt consumption by at least 50% as I am a light user and the phone is idle most of the time. now it lasts me through 2 days on a charge

[Q] Max battery life w/smartphone features?

I want to maximize my battery life while still keeping my smartphone functionality. For instance, I want to still have gmail sent to my phone regularly (every 15 minutes at a minimum), text messages and calls to arrive immediately. I want my google calendar and contacts would be fine once daily, I think.
I wouldn't mind keeping it in 2g mode when not on wi-fi. I have a switch on a toggle, so I could easily switch when I want to browse the web.
I'm running CM7 with the stock kernal. I have setcpu installed and set to 1000 max, 312 min and screen off profile of 312/312, and in-call profile to 608.
I am running JuiceDefender Ultimate, but I'm pretty confused about how to setup the options to best fit my needs.
Would I benefit from using a custom kernal and possibly undervolting? If so, should I use ext3 or ext4? I'm not concerned about speed, as this phone is already as fast as I need. I'm mostly concerned with battery life and functionality/stability. Also, if you have experience with setcpu profiles and/or juicedefender settings, please help guide me.

i'm on cm7 with set cpu at default for screen on, 456 for screen off, default for in call and im at 1 day 16 hrs with 30% battery left.
4g is on, wifi off, gps off, sync on
this is with quite a few texts, some calls, etc, and gmail is pushed to my phone automatically

Great battery life!!!

After doing every possible combinations of ROMs and kernels and everything else under the son I have found the recipe for longer battery life and awesome performance all you need is the Deep Sleep Battery saver Greenify app and Go Power Master Hibernate all your apps then go to Go Power Master and make Greenify and Deep Sleep battery saver whitlisted apps schedule it the way you want Deep sleep battery saver that is as too what apps to sync so often or whatever and example I am used to running my phone dead four or five times a day I charged my phone once in two days when I used this combination so forget all those setting your processor to all these different speeds and profiles just use this and you will see the difference BIG difference unless your over clocked to 1.5 GHz or something even charging the phone and talking on it your battery barely drops this is one hell of a combination took a looooot of time to figure this or but works like a charm
sent from WMD SAMSUNG GALAXY S2

DBDMagic said:
After doing every possible combinations of ROMs and kernels and everything else under the son I have found the recipe for longer battery life and awesome performance all you need is the Deep Sleep Battery saver Greenify app and Go Power Master Hibernate all your apps then go to Go Power Master and make Greenify and Deep Sleep battery saver whitlisted apps schedule it the way you want Deep sleep battery saver that is as too what apps to sync so often or whatever and example I am used to running my phone dead four or five times a day I charged my phone once in two days when I used this combination so forget all those setting your processor to all these different speeds and profiles just use this and you will see the difference BIG difference unless your over clocked to 1.5 GHz or something even charging the phone and talking on it your battery barely drops this is one hell of a combination took a looooot of time to figure this or but works like a charm
sent from WMD SAMSUNG GALAXY S2
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dude, use punctuation

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dude, use punctuation
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+1 :good: Why do people write that way?

mjz2cool said:
dude, use punctuation
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+1 also
If you have Deep Sleep problems, that Deep Sleep Battery really helps, but just turn it off (or freeze it) after waking your phone, since it still runs on background while you're using your phones, and consume some RAM, which we don't wanna...
Go Power Master, hmm... That "Optimization" thing just means "Clear Memory" (Background Memory). So if you have Task Managers who have that function, you can ditch GPM with your own Task Manager, less Apps installed
Greenify. The best so far. Cancels-out stupid background apps that persists (much better with the new version, GSF bye-bye! ). I only stay at my unstable 4.0 ROM for this baby (and also Xposed). If Greenify can be incorp'ed with GB firmwares, that would br awesome, which is not possible...
Additional tips:
• Lessen RAM usage (meaning close other running apps, foreground or background), to lessen CPU pressure.
• "Top-Off" your charging time. Do an extra 15-20 minute charge after 100% charging. If "fills up" the mV capacity , for the best full-battery experience
• If your phone can, Underclock/volt. Even less than a hundred mHz. It save some 15-30minute more juice on your phone. Just Overclock if needed, same as Setting the CPU clock to default.
• There are Rooted phones specializes on battery saving by:
*On Multi-Cores: Stop a core(s) to run. Really helps keep the CPU pressure off.
*Kernel Governors: Smartassv2, Hotplug, blah blah blah.. Search it...
• Limit / Lessen the usage of phone while charging. I don't know why, but I think its to, uhmm... prevent the battery pressure from charging-discharging, i guess!?
• Others are pretty basic. Backlights, GPS, Data, WiFi, Bluetooth... Yeah, no need to explain..

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Discussion about low Standby time on Stock firmware

Hello,
Many of us have issues with the battery standby (or SoT) like most of the rooted user here I have also tried a lot of tricks from disabling CPU cores to removing most of the removable bloat-ware from the original firmware because (while I still was non-rooted user) many times I start the day off charger at 7AM I end up with 3:25 hours SoT and 35% battery at 7PM, then something comes up (like going to the pub) and after 3-4 hours I found my battery at 7-9% without even turning the screen on during that period of time and no clue of what drained the battery.
The idea of this discussion is to track and reveal on what usage (and with which apps) the device is having that specific drain to help non-rooted users find the sweet spot and be helpful for the rooted users.
Also some/all the suggestions in this discussion my not work with your device and ever cause it to misbehave or even hardbrick it if not done with caution and further thinking - experiment on your own risk and no one is responsible for any damages!
What is my daily usage:
Apps: Facebook / Google Play Music / Facebook Messenger / WhatsApp / Viber / SnapChat / Google Chrome / Inbox / Gmail (with POP3)
What I did as non-rooted user:
- Factory Reset
- Stopped using Moto Voice and Double Twist
- Disabled every app that is from Motorola (and it is allowed to be disabled)
- Stopped WiFi scan (not sure because even when turned off the green bar was still visible in the battery graph)
- GPS and NFC are off when not used
note: those changes helped me to get through a day with normal usage and from 7AM to 7PM I end up with 3:35 SoT and 37% battery
Continuing with root:
- Changed the CPU governor from interactive to ondemand (since interactive boosts the clocks at the highest on touch)
- Ultra Kernel (adreno idler does a great job)
note: those changes helped me to get through a day with normal usage and from 7AM to 7PM I end up with 4:10 SoT and 45% battery and until 6.0.1 came out
Yesterday (without the root changes) after some music stream through GPlay Music in the morning after a few hours (~4) my battery was at 60% with 1:50 hours SoT and GPlay Music on the top with 23% battery use and 2 hours later the battery drop on 11% with 2:45 hours SoT and GPlay Music with 6hours CPU use. The only difference with the other days and yesterday was using the MicroSD card as cache for streamed music (note that the card is class 4)
So sometimes could be the MicroSD card('s slow speed) to blame or maybe the Google Play Music App itself.
Suggestions for root user are welcomed too like CPU Tweaks, Removing unnecessary apps, etc. and will be separated from the non-root suggestions
For replay with suggestions please use the following form
What is my daily usage:
Apps: [list of the mostly used apps]
What I did as non-rooted user:
[suggestions]
note: [please add a note or screenshot from the battery using the [ HIDE ] tag
Continuing with root:
[suggestions]
note: [please add a note or screenshot from the battery using the [ HIDE ] tag
I really hope to make some good discussion about tweaking the Standby time (SoT) on the stock firmware 6.0.1.

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NON-ROOT
- Factory reset and start from scratch (do not do restore)
- Stop using Moto Voice and Double Twist
- Disable all the apps from Motorola and others that you don't use (and it is allowed to be disabled)
- Stop WiFi scan (not sure because even when turned off the green bar was still visible in the battery graph)
- GPS and NFC should off when not used​
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ROOT
- Changing the CPU governor from interactive to ondemand (since interactive boosts the clocks at the highest on touch)
- Installing custom kernel
* Squid Kernel
* Ultra Kernel (Squid Kernel plus a few tweaks like "Adreno idler" which does a great job in low graphic environment)
@Sickaxis79
When using squids kernel with the lionfish governor you can reach 8 hours with light usage,but its not as smooth as the interactive governor.
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For INTERACTIVE governor
Im using squid r16 kernel with stock rom 6.0.1.
Cpu max freq i use is 1708mhz and minimal is 200mhz.
Enter the next values into the cpu governor tunables for the big cores.
above hispeed delay 20000
align windows 1
boost 0
boostpulse duration 80000
go highspeed load 99
hispeed freq 345600
io is busy 0
max freq hysteresis 0
min sample time 20000
target loads 98 345600:77 400000:67 533333:60 800000:83 960000:77 1113600:74 1344000:82 1459200:87 1497600:81 1651200:86 1708800:95
timer rate 20000
timer slack 80000
use migration notif 0
use sched load 0
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First of all STOP USING GMAIL AND PLAY MUSIC
Gmail is a big culprit when it comes to stand by time ... so is play music ... ( i have disabled both )
Use Typemail ( it works without Sync on ) and any other music player of your choice
also Use Greenify to hibernate apps which you usually don't use ...also you can select ur music apps in those list ....
I am Non Rooted btw

Facebook app is known for major battery drainer

Actually Facebook is not much of a battery drainer now.... Tested and tried...
Yes it does eat a lot of RAM

pijes said:
Facebook app is known for major battery drainer
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100rabh7791 said:
Actually Facebook is not much of a battery drainer now.... Tested and tried...
Yes it does eat a lot of RAM
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I can confirm that too! A month since Google Chrome added the API to get notifications Facebook started to drain less and less battery with every update.
Even with all day use of the APP it still does not go over 8-9% battery consumption

Since I flashed stock 6.0.1 and previous 6.0 for my MXP the battery life was superb. About 6-8 h sot with above 30-40h+ of overall usage. My settings are with power saving in mind though.
Wysłane z mojego XT1562 przy użyciu Tapatalka

Woke up at 4:30 AM. Turned off wifi and turned on mobile data. Have used about 30 minutes of web browsing using chrome Beta. Im at work so phone is in my pocket mostly. It is now 10:30 am (6 hours later) and I lost 5 %.
Stock 6.0.1

100rabh7791 said:
First of all STOP USING GMAIL AND PLAY MUSIC
Gmail is a big culprit when it comes to stand by time ... so is play music ... ( i have disabled both )
Use Typemail ( it works without Sync on ) and any other music player of your choice
also Use Greenify to hibernate apps which you usually don't use ...also you can select ur music apps in those list ....
I am Non Rooted btw
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Personally I don't get enough important emails to leave sync on auto mode. Created a quick toggle using power toggle and I synch on a needed basis with a simple click. Today I was on the road (working) and I turned mobile data on at 4:30 am and just turned it off @ 7:00 pm. During that time I browsed internet incl Facebook, used maps GPS, streamed a little music to car with Google music, checked email with Gmail, updated apps from play store... For a Total screen time over 3 hours on a 15 hour span (mobile). Right now 72% battery left to go.
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Only thing I really notice is adguard using more juice on mobile vs. WiFi but it still helps otherwise

Did you guys disabled moto apps or any app?

When I was stock I did all the usual battery saving tricks and I would get between 4 and 6 hours sot by the time I hit 15% battery.
Now with root and squid kernel I noticed that battery drains a bit faster but setting the min core frequency as low as it can go helps as well as greenify. I still get my 4 to 6 hours by the time I hit 15% battery. Im on stock 6.0 marshmallow before and after rooting. After rooting the phone I Uninstalled some Google Apps but kept all the Moto apps.
My usage is like this:chrome, whatsapp, typemail , Gmail, poweramp(music player), youtube(a lot of youtube)
On the weekend its completely different story. I spend the whole day on YouTube, playing games and watching offline video files. With that usage I get 3 to 3.5 hours sot by the time I hit 15%

Its normal to only have 3 hours sot playing games.Brightness is the best battery saver and disabling or greenify all the google crap also helps a little.Mostly I have around 6/7hours sot using wifi and browsing the internet around 30/40% brightness. When using squids kernel with the lionfish governor you can reach 8 hours with light usage,but its not as smooth as the interactive governor. If you like a snappy and smooth device with a good sot (6/7 hours) you can tweak the interactive governor. I flashed squids r16 kernel and tweaked the interactive governor with kernel adiutor so that the big cores only kicks in when needed with no lost of performance and great battery life. It just depends on how you use your phone and how you tweak with the kernel settings.

Is it safe to disable 'Apps usage' access of Moto care ?

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Is it safe to disable 'Apps usage' access of Moto care ?
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I have never seen such a device with so conflitcing problems amongst users in what concerns battery life. Simply amazing... -.- i can't decide if i am a heavy user, and the battery does indeed drains a lot or if my phone has problems.

I havent rooted yet.
I have:
- disabled moto apps and Google apps + Google search(with adb)
- changed dpi(adb)
- the same thing before.

Sickaxis79 said:
Its normal to only have 3 hours sot playing games.Brightness is the best battery saver and disabling or greenify all the google crap also helps a little.Mostly I have around 6/7hours sot using wifi and browsing the internet around 30/40% brightness. When using squids kernel with the lionfish governor you can reach 8 hours with light usage,but its not as smooth as the interactive governor. If you like a snappy and smooth device with a good sot (6/7 hours) you can tweak the interactive governor. I flashed squids r16 kernel and tweaked the interactive governor with kernel adiutor so that the big cores only kicks in when needed with no lost of performance and great battery life. It just depends on how you use your phone and how you tweak with the kernel settings.
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Can you share with me the governor tunables you changed for getting better battery life in interactive governor?
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It's definitely an app issue. I uninstalled tapatalk because it would drain the phone like stupid. GMail (with 3 email accounts) doesn't seem so bad. I also use Whatsapp and Skype, so those aren't too bad either. Also use Play music (as offline mp3 player basically) so that's not it, either. From your list, facebook and snapchat look like they may sync too much and drain the phone. Have you analyzed your battery usage with gsam battery or similar?

I think the best app to analyse your battery drain in standby mode is this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain
I use it for several years. It does not cause any drain and allows me to see if I lost too much battery during the night.
For example, with Moto X Play, I'm at -0.3% /hour with wifi enabled (and connected), 4G, bluetooth, location services, auto-sync, no exposed, but with CM13.
On Moto G3, it's the same (-0.3%/h), except Moto G3 has smaller battery. I expected more for Moto X Play, but it's still very good compared to other smartphones (Galaxy S4 for example).

K.khiladi said:
Can you share with me the governor tunables you changed for getting better battery life in interactive governor?
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Sure, but first before you apply these settings i can advice you to read this awesome guide first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3269557
Im studying this guide for a few days and learned a lot from it.It teaches you how to calculate your min and max target loads which you need later to tweak the interactive governor. Im still learning , but i never knew interactive governor was so higly tweakable. If you understand all of this guide you can tweak your kernel just how you like it. Its a universal guide with examples for the nexus 5 and 6 and the most useful guide i have found so far about this governor.
I have the big cpu's tweaked so it stays at 200mhz and ramps up when needed. This are the settings i used and they work nice so far, but remember im still learning
Im using squid r16 kernel with stock rom 6.0.1.
Cpu max freq i use is 1708mhz and minimal is 200mhz.
Enter the next values into the cpu governor tunables for the big cores.
above hispeed delay 20000
align windows 1
boost 0
boostpulse duration 80000
go highspeed load 99
hispeed freq 345600
io is busy 0
max freq hysteresis 0
min sample time 20000
target loads 98 345600:77 400000:67 533333:60 800000:83 960000:77 1113600:74 1344000:82 1459200:87 1497600:81 1651200:86 1708800:95
timer rate 20000
timer slack 80000
use migration notif 0
use sched load 0