Hello,
I am new to HTC ChaCha and I've got a bunch of questions.
At first my ChaCha doesn't come from official distribution. Therefore I haven't got right CID. I've got Dutch CID (HTC__E11) instead of the the one for East Europe (HTC__032) where the Czech locale is included. Is there a way how to change It when I am S-ON? Now I'm using some apps from Market to run it proper way (morelocale 2 and ChaChaCzech keyboard) but in some aspects it's not perfect (I can't use prediction, etc.)...
As I read, when I go for the XTC-Clip, it'll change my CID to SuperCID. What exactly does it mean? Will I be able to list and set all locales? Or will be able to change it from SuperCID to another one?
The last question. Where is the CID stored in ChaCha? If I am able to obtain temp-root, I should be able to change CID as well or not? I've tried flashing misc with changed CID by flash_image but it didn't work. It just helped me to flash Europe RUU, but the CID wasn't preserved.
Thank you.
janplacek said:
Hello,
I am new to HTC ChaCha and I've got a bunch of questions.
At first my ChaCha doesn't come from official distribution. Therefore I haven't got right CID. I've got Dutch CID (HTC__E11) instead of the the one for East Europe (HTC__032) where the Czech locale is included. Is there a way how to change It when I am S-ON? Now I'm using some apps from Market to run it proper way (morelocale 2 and ChaChaCzech keyboard) but in some aspects it's not perfect (I can't use prediction, etc.)...
As I read, when I go for the XTC-Clip, it'll change my CID to SuperCID. What exactly does it mean? Will I be able to list and set all locales? Or will be able to change it from SuperCID to another one?
The last question. Where is the CID stored in ChaCha? If I am able to obtain temp-root, I should be able to change CID as well or not? I've tried flashing misc with changed CID by flash_image but it didn't work. It just helped me to flash Europe RUU, but the CID wasn't preserved.
Thank you.
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You need the goldcard tool for efficiency. search in the forum or google goldcard.exe, but its a simple win app that makes your SD a goldcard if you follow the instructions. Then You can install various packages from the SD.
As far as I know (afaik ) the CID can be changed only if your radio is S-OFF'ed via XTC clip.
You can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408888 but I'm pretty sure it won't work.
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Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
smash_07 said:
Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
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Hi,
This is a SENSATION forum.
malybru said:
Hi,
This is a SENSATION forum.
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Yes I noticed it i already asked the moderation if they could move the thread to the Desire S section.
I need to find this out to? I dont want to root my Desire S, I just want to changde CID so i could put unbranded software to it...?
You can just create a GoldCard and make it work, without root or S-Off.
Earlier today I created a GoldCard and upgraded my DS using the European RUU and I'm S-ON & Unrooted.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19171606
doghous said:
You can just create a GoldCard and make it work, without root or S-Off.
Earlier today I created a GoldCard and upgraded my DS using the European RUU and I'm S-ON & Unrooted.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19171606
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Yes I know that works I have a Goldcard. The thing here is that I would like the phone to be completely unbranded without the need os special cards so in case i want to sell it or send it to warranty it won't be noticed that i changed something there. So if there is a way to re write de CID it would be good.
Well i actually successfully installed the unbranded european ROM 1.28.401.1 using the gold card. But now i can't receive OTA updates. Is there a way to get it to work?
Why don't you run the European RUU 2.10 version (RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed) from the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
That's what I did
smash_07 said:
Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
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Just to answer your question:
(I may need to be corrected on this one)
Based on my observation and experimentation. The CID that you are trying to change, or the CID that the RUU is checking is actually on the build.prop on your phone.
Code:
ro.aa.maincid
But there are two checks that I've observed. Even though you changed the maincid, the corresponding cwkey should be changed accordingly.
cwkey created on your phone corresponds on what is on the build.prop and I believe is also being checked by RUUs.
And maybe just to be on the safe side, RUUs do check what is on your build.prop. If they are not what your RUU wants, it will not push through. Hence, you need a GoldCard.
I myself don't exactly, by codes, know how the GoldCard bypasses the checks. All I do know, is that it works.
Skanob said:
Just to answer your question:
(I may need to be corrected on this one)
Based on my observation and experimentation. The CID that you are trying to change, or the CID that the RUU is checking is actually on the build.prop on your phone.
Code:
ro.aa.maincid
But there are two checks that I've observed. Even though you changed the maincid, the corresponding cwkey should be changed accordingly.
cwkey created on your phone corresponds on what is on the build.prop and I believe is also being checked by RUUs.
And maybe just to be on the safe side, RUUs do check what is on your build.prop. If they are not what your RUU wants, it will not push through. Hence, you need a GoldCard.
I myself don't exactly, by codes, know how the GoldCard bypasses the checks. All I do know, is that it works.
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So what that means is the phone has to stay branded? There is no way that we can fully unbrand the phone by changing the CID?
And after we use the Goldcard what happens to the CID of the phone?
smash_07 said:
So what that means is the phone has to stay branded? There is no way that we can fully unbrand the phone by changing the CID?
And after we use the Goldcard what happens to the CID of the phone?
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The goldcard does not alter the CID. It just tells the bootloader to ignore the CID check when running a RUU.
One way to alter the CID is to XTC clip the phone.
Well i ended up doing what you all suggested and flashed the RUU with the 2.10 european rom with the goldcard in it.
But something went wrong and my Desire S is in a strange situation. For some reason the Goldcard did not work like the first time and gave me a CID error. But it flashed the hboot 2.00.0002 but retained the 1.28 rom i had installed on it. I have used the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader but everytime i try to flash the 1.28 RUU again (to flash the old hboot again) it gives me an "unknown error" that is actually a security error.
Is there a way to get the old hboot back?
smash_07 said:
Well i ended up doing what you all suggested and flashed the RUU with the 2.10 european rom with the goldcard in it.
But something went wrong and my Desire S is in a strange situation. For some reason the Goldcard did not work like the first time and gave me a CID error. But it flashed the hboot 2.00.0002 but retained the 1.28 rom i had installed on it. I have used the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader but everytime i try to flash the 1.28 RUU again (to flash the old hboot again) it gives me an "unknown error" that is actually a security error.
Is there a way to get the old hboot back?
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My reply to this post of yours is already a hint.
Use search PLEASE.
Hi folks,
I have unlocked and s-offd my Voda HTC Chacha.. installed a WWE Rom but havent recieved any OTA since then.. I am on 1.19 and there is a 1.54 OTA out..
just checked the CID through adb and its set to Super CID 11111111 instead of generic HTC__001. Tried changing it but I get Command Error. Any idea or solution for this?
Also, Is this the reason why no OTA are showing up?
If no, please advise how can I update the phone via OTA
Many thanks
What's your full version number? Afaik, 1.19 isn't a WWE ROM, it's Vodafone UK
qzfive said:
What's your full version number? Afaik, 1.19 isn't a WWE ROM, it's Vodafone UK
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Here are the full details mate:
Android 2.3.3
Software 1.19.206.2
Baseband 47.14.35.3030h_7.47.35.17
Kernel 2.6.35.10-g8db500e
cheers
Searching "1.19.206.2" on Google brings me back to a thread here in XDA's Chacha section saying it's an O2 ROM - so you see any O2 apps or bootanimations? I've heard that O2 don't actually "brand" their Android phones with apps, but still make all updates go through them.
EDIT: Yup, 1.19.206.1/2 is an O2-UK ROM - I found this out from this forum thread: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/7588766-post44.html
RUU_Chacha_O2_UK_1.19.206.1_Radio_47.14.35.3030H_7 .47.35.17_release_195486_signed.exe
RUU_Chacha_O2_UK_1.19.206.2_Radio_47.14.35.3030H_7 .47.35.17_release_197936_signed.exe
As you can see, your software number refers to 1 of 2 O2 UK RUUs
You should flash the 1.33.401.1 RUU from this thread, then see if you get an OTA update to 1.52.401.1 - if not, try downloading it from this thread and apply it via stock Recovery, which is reported to work if you're S-OFF and have a correct CID (HTC__001 for example) or SuperCID.
qzfive said:
Searching "1.19.206.2" on Google brings me back to a thread here in XDA's Chacha section saying it's an O2 ROM - so you see any O2 apps or bootanimations? I've heard that O2 don't actually "brand" their Android phones with apps, but still make all updates go through them.
EDIT: Yup, 1.19.206.1/2 is an O2-UK ROM - I found this out from this forum thread: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/7588766-post44.html
RUU_Chacha_O2_UK_1.19.206.1_Radio_47.14.35.3030H_7 .47.35.17_release_195486_signed.exe
RUU_Chacha_O2_UK_1.19.206.2_Radio_47.14.35.3030H_7 .47.35.17_release_197936_signed.exe
As you can see, your software number refers to 1 of 2 O2 UK RUUs
You should flash the 1.33.401.1 RUU from this thread, then see if you get an OTA update to 1.52.401.1 - if not, try downloading it from this thread and apply it via stock Recovery, which is reported to work if you're S-OFF and have a correct CID (HTC__001 for example) or SuperCID.
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Fantastic mate, downloaded it as we speak..
not sure how it stayed on 1.19 as after I used XTC Clip, the logos and boot image were gone so I assumed I had a stock rom.. oh well.. everyday is a learning day..
I will let you know how I get on..
cheers for your help mate..
Update... Installed the 1.33 which then took the OTA update which is all good... However I still can't change the CID to HTC__001.. (currently set at 1111111)
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk
why you like to change the CID?
SUPER-CID (1111111) might have set during S-off thru xtc clip.... SUPER-CID (1111111) signifies you device is universal device, which enables to flash all languages/APN/other settings in your phone
ajeevlal said:
why you like to change the CID?
SUPER-CID (1111111) might have set during S-off thru xtc clip.... SUPER-CID (1111111) signifies you device is universal device, which enables to flash all languages/APN/other settings in your phone
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I know but it doesn't help with OTA updates
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk
ok, but..
ajeevlal said:
why you like to change the CID?
SUPER-CID (1111111) might have set during S-off thru xtc clip.... SUPER-CID (1111111) signifies you device is universal device, which enables to flash all languages/APN/other settings in your phone
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True, but it forces non-qwerty keyboard users to manually modify the layout in /system/usr/
as described here , because CID is taken into account on default layout.
Once you know the trick, it's OK, but really annoying to do every time you install a new ROM
what are the benefits of doing super-CID (i.e. 11111111)
If i do superCID can I again restore to stock CID..
Please help
abhishek89 said:
what are the benefits of doing super-CID (i.e. 11111111)
If i do superCID can I again restore to stock CID..
Please help
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Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
gol_n_dal said:
Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
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So how do I install roms from different carriers
fatswaller4451 said:
So how do I install roms from different carriers
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first you need to S-OFF then supercid
after that you can use any ruu.exe
Super Cid
rzr86 said:
first you need to S-OFF then supercid
after that you can use any ruu.exe
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Hey thanks for your response
Ok so I have s-off and super Cid just a few more questions if u don't mind
1. can i install any ruu for any android phone or am I limited?
2. Will installing a ruu for another phone effect the way my current phone works
3. When installing a ruu.exe for another phone will I have to follow the same bootloader unlock method for that phone or my phone?
Sorry for the newbie questions but I have limited knowledge of super cid however I have been rooting for years now
I heard some bad things about super cid but have not had any issues thus far, the guide was very easy to follow and in fact just to make sure it was working I was able to ruu backwards
Thanks for your expertise you r awesome
fatswaller4451 said:
Hey thanks for your response
Ok so I have s-off and super Cid just a few more questions if u don't mind
1. can i install any ruu for any android phone or am I limited?
2. Will installing a ruu for another phone effect the way my current phone works
3. When installing a ruu.exe for another phone will I have to follow the same bootloader unlock method for that phone or my phone?
Sorry for the newbie questions but I have limited knowledge of super cid however I have been rooting for years now
I heard some bad things about super cid but have not had any issues thus far, the guide was very easy to follow and in fact just to make sure it was working I was able to ruu backwards
Thanks for your expertise you r awesome
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1)with s-off and supercid you are not limited
2)it won't affect anything at all
But probably you will have some official updates from the specific carrier(if you have)
3)I think it depends from the carrier of the Ruu you have chosen
But actually there is no need to unlock the bootloader because you are on s-off
Edit:in second and third question what do you mean by another phone?
I assume you mean another carrier
If yes then yes
If you mean another device(for example Samsung)then absolutely no
Of course you can use any ruu but only from sensation's devices
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
super cid
rzr86 said:
1)with s-off and supercid you are not limited
2)it won't affect anything at all
But probably you will have some official updates from the specific carrier(if you have)
3)I think it depends from the carrier of the Ruu you have chosen
But actually there is no need to unlock the bootloader because you are on s-off
Edit:in second and third question what do you mean by another phone?
I assume you mean another carrier
If yes then yes
If you mean another device(for example Samsung)then absolutely no
Of course you can use any ruu but only from sensation's devices
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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So I have verified that I have super cid on my evo 4g lte by ruuing backward, however when I try flashing an htc one ruu i get an error message that its the wrong file, so i tried flashing an original evo 4g ruu and still get the same message
I am still s-off
relocked bootloader
super cid
hboot 2.0.9
latest firmware
am i missing something?
Thanks
fatswaller4451 said:
So I have verified that I have super cid on my evo 4g lte by ruuing backward, however when I try flashing an htc one ruu i get an error message that its the wrong file, so i tried flashing an original evo 4g ruu and still get the same message
I am still s-off
relocked bootloader
super cid
hboot 2.0.9
latest firmware
am i missing something?
Thanks
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wait man man
for which device are we talking about?
not for sensation?
EVO 4g lte
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
fatswaller4451 said:
EVO 4g lte
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
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no maaaaannnnn
don't use any ruu for sensation to evo 4g
go to the evo 4g's thread and see there for ruu.exe files
this forum is only for sensation/xe/4g
i thought you were talking about sensation devices
Ok thanks for the info but I was talking about super cid and installing roms from different carrier's
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
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I was following a previous thread
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
to reduce the confusion
NO- you cant/shouldn't flash another model phone's RUU on another
there is a high chance of bricking the device if you do that
Does SuperCID also network unlocks the phone?
There is a lot of confusion on the internet about SuperCID. I have HTC One S which is locked to T-Mobile and I want to get it network unlocked. the "strings -n 8 /dev/block/mmcblk0p6" method did not show unlock_code for my phone (though it has worked for some other people). While googling I found that doing SuperCID by changing mmcblk0p4 can also network unlock the phone. Please let me know if you have some idea. Thanks.
gol_n_dal said:
Certain things, e.g. RUUs, need to have the correct Carrier ID on the phone in order to install via the bootloader or recovery using the PG58IMG.zip process. The Latest Firmware packs for example are grouped together into sets, this is to allow you to install them if you don't have SuperCID. If you have got SuperCID you can install any of them as all the CID checks pass.
Another reason to change the CID if to allow you to install a generic RUU instead of the one that came with the phone, this allows you to remove the bloatware. For example I'm on Vodafone and I installed the generic Euro RUU purely to get rig of the Vodafone crap that came pre-installed.
The process to change it back is identical to the way you write the SuperCID just using your original CID (mine for example is VODAP001). IIRC HTC__01 is the generic CID
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Hello. I'd like to know the required steps to convert a carrier branded and customized ChaCha to a stock one.
I know it is not just "flash another rom". I flashed the stock spanish rom in the spanish orange chacha and the keyboard layout is different.
Also, the apps that tells info about the device still show orange related stuff.
Does the CID relate to this??
Thanks all.
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Saludos y cerveza.
Required steps to achieve this would be to firstly gain S-OFF, then obtain SuperCID. Once SuperCID '11111111' is written, you are able to flash any official RUU, including the non-branded generic ones such as WWE.
Looks like obtaining S-OFF is only done with the XTC Clip (hardware box) at this stage, although I'm unsure if the HTCDev unlock for the ChaCha will allow you to alter CID (I'd be highly surprised).
Changing CID is a few simple fastboot commands, but won't work until S-OFF is achieved.
Do you have access to an XTC Clip at all?
You could give it a shot at a GSM service/shop around your area. They usually have XTC Clips and an S-OFF is about 9-10 euros. He'll set SuperCID automatically.
Alex C. said:
You could give it a shot at a GSM service/shop around your area. They usually have XTC Clips and an S-OFF is about 9-10 euros. He'll set SuperCID automatically.
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If I S-OFF my ChaCha, it will stay that status for ever and ever, won't it?
Can I put *ANY* CID once the ChaCha is S-OFF'ed? Even the original one?
Thanks.
tokafondo said:
If I S-OFF my ChaCha, it will stay that status for ever and ever, won't it?
Can I put *ANY* CID once the ChaCha is S-OFF'ed? Even the original one?
Thanks.
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You can happily reset your CID at any time, to any carrier
juzz86 said:
You can happily reset your CID at any time, to any carrier
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Thanks. I contacted one of the local 'liberadores' (unlockers) and I'm waiting for its answer.
I am sorry, because this have probably been asked many times, but I have a little more specific question. I have HTC Sensation rooted, and S-OFF. Now I want to send it to the service under warranty, because I noticed there is a dust under my screen.
I know what I have to do, but I dont know which default rom should I choose, so they definitely would not suspect anything. Does it have to be carrier specific or just some random EU rom? I am from Slovenia, my carrier is Simobil (Vodafone).
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
you need to flash one based on your cid which kinda gives you carrier,country info
use this guide as reference
Thank you, i just read this, however I still dont know how to find the right ruu for my phone. There is no Simobil Slovenia on the ruu list. Any other way to find out which rom to flash? The thing is I dont really remember whether I changed my CID at some point or not, so I might not be able to see/find the correct one.
Thanks again.
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
vrocipes said:
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
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Hi,
CIDGetter will show you your original CID.
When you check it via fastboot,you will get your ACTUAL CID.
If you are s-off,then , you should be able to run a European RUU and get back to stock.
Then, follow the guide ganesh gave you to s-on.
vrocipes said:
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
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the cid you got via fastboot is the current one you are having
and HTC_032 is the rom cid ..so if you are having stock rom ..it represents your actual cid
Thank you both for your answers. Hmm, so one of you think that CIDgetter gives you original cid, and one thinks it gives you the CID of current rom. If ganeshp is right, then I still dont know my original CID, as currently I have Viper S 1.3.5 rom :// If malybru is right then I have to flash rom with HTC_032 CID and not just any European rom? Again it is important, because I dont want to get rejected on my warranty...
Thanks again.
vrocipes said:
Thank you both for your answers. Hmm, so one of you think that CIDgetter gives you original cid, and one thinks it gives you the CID of current rom. If ganeshp is right, then I still dont know my original CID, as currently I have Viper S 1.3.5 rom :// If malybru is right then I have to flash rom with HTC_032 CID and not just any European rom? Again it is important, because I dont want to get rejected on my warranty...
Thanks again.
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both of us (me and Malybru ) are saying the same thing
cid from fastboot ..gives you the actual/current cid you have right now
cid from cid getter ..will give you the rom cid (in case of viper it is HTC__032)
also based on your country ..i think the fitting RUU is indeed is of European Unbranded one (as malybru said )
if the phone is not linked to carrier (like contract phone ) then European unbranded is the right RUU
It has been bought through carrier contract, but they stopped locking them, but it could still be locked in case it was from old stock... I'll have to try that, so in case it is locked to the carrier, I need different rom? Im sorry for so many questions but im really lost in finding the right rom.