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I have a nandroid of my rooted honeycomb 3.2.1 install. If I want to flash the leaked stock ICS, is it possible to go back to the nandroid and then go back to stock recovery to install the leak?
I understand I can use the unrooting method but I'm just trying to understand this better and understand my options. I don't wish to go back to the stock images and lock the boot loader again just to flash the update and unlock and root again if I don't have to unless that is just the best way to do it.

crankerchick said:
I have a nandroid of my rooted honeycomb 3.2.1 install. If I want to flash the leaked stock ICS, is it possible to go back to the nandroid and then go back to stock recovery to install the leak?
I understand I can use the unrooting method but I'm just trying to understand this better and understand my options. I don't wish to go back to the stock images and lock the boot loader again just to flash the update and unlock and root again if I don't have to unless that is just the best way to do it.
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I would really advise that you flash the most recent EOS wingray. Rom #36 and the GApps (Google System apps) package version 10. It seems to be more complete than the ota update, it's easier to flash and you preserve your root and recovery.

Thanks, nice to see someone offer a comparison of the two packages. I'm currently running EOS build 34 from the other night. I guess i was just curious about the stock update. I know there are still some things non-functional with eos and figured the stock rom would be completely functional minus whatever bugs. It does seem like a bit of work to flash it though, since the only thing i can seem to find on what to do is saying to unroot and relock using the moto stock files.
Seems like if im interested in trying a stock rom i shojld just wait for the ota and a rom made from it with root already.
I will miss the notification tray settings in eos if i go stock!

crankerchick said:
Thanks, nice to see someone offer a comparison of the two packages. I'm currently running EOS build 34 from the other night. I guess i was just curious about the stock update. I know there are still some things non-functional with eos and figured the stock rom would be completely functional minus whatever bugs. It does seem like a bit of work to flash it though, since the only thing i can seem to find on what to do is saying to unroot and relock using the moto stock files.
Seems like if im interested in trying a stock rom i shojld just wait for the ota and a rom made from it with root already.
I will miss the notification tray settings in eos if i go stock!
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True, that.
EOS wingray version 36 with the version 10.1 GApps really fixed most of the remaining issues. There should be a new nightly and there is a new GApps 10.2 to flash today.

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[Q] JB update and custom kernel

Hi all,
I'm sorry about my stupid question but I really don't know nothing about that . I had rooted and flashed my NS and installed the matr1x kernel (very good btw), and now I knew that JB will be available to NS. My question is, need I back to stock kernel to receive the update?
Thanks
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Gnng
You have to understand that installing an OTA (official update) on a rooted device regardless of what kernel can cause problems, as it did with my Nexus S before. I suggest you make a NANDroid backup at all times before you install any ROMs, official or Custom. You can also use Titanium backup and others.
There's still a slight while until the new JB 4.1 comes out. It's suggested that you install a Custom JB 4.1 ROM for your Nexus S as though you don't cause any problems. I think it's OK if you do it with the kernel pre-installed. But people always install the Custom ROM THEN they install the Kernel, I think installing a new ROM always overwrites the kernel, if it comes with it.
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In short, wait for the JB Custom ROM and you don't have to revert back to stock kernel, when you do the update it will automatically overwrite. Most Custom ROMs come with Stock/ordinary kernels. So then the user can flash whatever kernel they like in your case, matr1x.
Wish you the best of luck, and I am waiting for the Nexus S JB to come out as soon as possible
Ota binary patches the boot image iirc. So it can get all messed up.
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Yeah, what he said!
MДЯCЦSДИT said:
Ota binary patches the boot image iirc. So it can get all messed up.
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andezzat,
Thank you very much for the help.
andezzat said:
Gnng
You have to understand that installing an OTA (official update) on a rooted device regardless of what kernel can cause problems, as it did with my Nexus S before. I suggest you make a NANDroid backup at all times before you install any ROMs, official or Custom. You can also use Titanium backup and others.
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I didn't any backup before flashing a new kernel :crying:, so what can I do now if I want my stock kernel back?? What's a NANDroid (I know that is a tool but how can I do it?) ? Is Titanium bkp easily?
There's still a slight while until the new JB 4.1 comes out. It's suggested that you install a Custom JB 4.1 ROM for your Nexus S as though you don't cause any problems. I think it's OK if you do it with the kernel pre-installed. But people always install the Custom ROM THEN they install the Kernel, I think installing a new ROM always overwrites the kernel, if it comes with it.
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I prefer wait for stock JB Rom and probaby I'll , but, can I already find some JB ROM?
In short, wait for the JB Custom ROM and you don't have to revert back to stock kernel, when you do the update it will automatically overwrite. Most Custom ROMs come with Stock/ordinary kernels. So then the user can flash whatever kernel they like in your case, matr1x.
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I don't need to remove the kernel even unroot my cell, alright?
Thank you!!
Gnng said:
I didn't any backup before flashing a new kernel :crying:, so what can I do now if I want my stock kernel back?? What's a NANDroid (I know that is a tool but how can I do it?) ? Is Titanium bkp easily?
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A NANDroid backup is a internal memory backup. You can create one by booting into Recovery (Power off your phone and Hold Power and Down on your volume buttons.) If you rooted your phone and unlocked your bootloader (that's what you had to do to flash a new kernel), you should be able to load ClockworkMod or TeamWin Recovery and do a backup of your phone.
Gnng said:
I prefer wait for stock JB Rom and probaby I'll , but, can I already find some JB ROM?
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There's one rom but it's a port from the SDK and the amount of major bugs is high so it's not recommended but you could try another custom rom meanwhile, I can't go back to stock after trying custom roms, like AOKP and Cyanogenmod 9. Make sure you backup your apps and some settings (not everything will be compatible between stock and custom so pay close attention to which system setting you'll backup) with Titanium Backup.
To sum it all up for you
There's a Jelly Bean release which is unstable and has no sound, and will not be fixed until the REAL version comes out.
NANDroid backs up the whole internal memory on the phone including the system, it can be done from clockworkmod recovery.
Titanium backup, backs up specific settings and information that you choose, available from the playstore.
You don't need to unroot or go back to a STOCK kernel in order to flash a CUSTOM ROM. DO not however flash a STOCK rom after rooting, as at times that can cause problems.
If you want to go back to a STOCK ROM after rooting a device, there's a way, check this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
and choose your Nexus S model: To acquire model, go to Settings - About - Baseband version. if it says I9023 at the start that's your Nexus S's model
Choose one of the Fastboot Stock ROMs and use the Fastboot method to flash the ROM. That is a good way to go back to STOCK ROM if anything bad happens
By the way you should expect the new OTA official 4.1 update for the Nexus S to be on your model's page.
NOTE: Using Fastboot to flash a ROM is very clean. However this will delete all your data and if you do everything correctly will lock your bootloader and unroot your phone. So use Fastboot only when you really feel the need to.
Cheers
and stay tuned for Jelly Bean :victory:
andezzat said:
To sum it all up for you
You don't need to unroot or go back to a STOCK kernel in order to flash a CUSTOM ROM. DO not however flash a STOCK rom after rooting, as at times that can cause problems.
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That means, when I receive the official 4.1 update notification, I should unroot my phone first and just install it after?
Gnng said:
That means, when I receive the official 4.1 update notification, I should unroot my phone first and just install it after?
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OK first off, do not install the update using the system update method from about, as that is a 100% stuff up if you're still rooted or on a Custom ROM.
However to update I think flashing a stock ROM but USING Clockworkmod works fine!
Someone please confirm, as I am not 100% sure
However what I am sure about is that if you run into any troubles installing your STOCK ROM using Fastboot is very very good and clean, however there are 2 things:
1. You will wipe everything COMPLETELY
2. You need the ROM to be in a fastboot format kind of way for you to flash it
There's a guide and everything for fastboot.
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Personally I will wait for a custom ROM for 4.1 if it doesn't take too long as that's guaranteed and will obviously be faster and safer to install on a ROOTED device.
Someone still confirm if installing Stock ROM while over Custom ROM while ROOTED through CWM is OK or not!?
Hummm, ok...
I'm already using the Stock ROM, I just flashed a new kernel, and I prefer install the stock kernel and unroot my phone. Just to let it clean.
After I install the JB official update, maybe I flash and root again, depends of Google :laugh:
Do you know where can I download a trust official 4.0.4 kernel from the forums? My phone is a Nexus S I9020AUCKJ1, Version Number: IMM76D
Thanks!!!

A few questions about flashing and kernels.

Since I want to flash the thalamus kernel on my Nexus S with JB, I have to be on a rom and given that no JB factory image is available yet I don't really get what I should do.
When the OTA came out I was on a deoxedex, zipaligned, etc. stock rom of ICS, so, in order to elude the error status 7 issue I flashed the 4.0.4 factory image from google and then flashed the OTA update.
If I want to flash a JB rom, do I have to re-flash an ICS rom? And if so, can it be a non-stock rom or I would get the error status 7 message again?
No. You just need to make sure you have a custom recovery, like CWM. I was on ICS and then flashed a JB ROM with no issues.
chronophase1 said:
No. You just need to make sure you have a custom recovery, like CWM. I was on ICS and then flashed a JB ROM with no issues.
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Well, factory images just came out so it's fine now.
Haha. I was JUST about to post that. Good news for everybody.

How do I go back to stock JB?

I installed this thing here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781327&page=13, hoping that I'll get my CRT screen off animation back. Unfortunately, I didn't and I now want to go back to my stock Jelly Bean. Any way I can do that?
Here
Flashable via CWM.
Thanks a lot. I get official updates running that?
As long as you don't change the kernel, you should be good to go. Just flash the ROM and none of the other stuff.
chronophase1 said:
As long as you don't change the kernel, you should be good to go. Just flash the ROM and none of the other stuff.
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i think its deodexed and will not receive otas ... but here you go...just made this thread . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1807861
it will return yout phone to jb factory state unrooted with stock recovery and all...you need the drivers . good luck
I did install galaxy nexus sounds and my phone is rooted, so that means i won't get any OTA's?
Root doesn't matter.
If you installed the sounds with a flashable zip then when you're actually pushed a ota it will fail to install automatically because of the custom recovery. It will install manually though as long as the ota doesn't check the stock roms sounds. Not sure if it does but you can just look in the updater script in a ota and look to see if it checks for the sounds.

Jelly Bean OTA

FOTA ripped for your enjoyment.
https://mega.co.nz/#!xoZigSqS!YHUa5Umv-8qjyFV1dtHs4lDQXMIn1q7plTz3zWeYSwY
That's completely unmodified. (I tried just installing it in CWM. Think I probably bricked doing something silly...)
I pulled this as well, but I'm curious if you had to flash back to stock firmware and recovery to get it. I tried using a rooted stock rom and the software update screen would give me a "modified devices don't get updates" message. I actually had to have stock recovery and system installed so that it would download. Did you have to do the same thing?
gee one said:
I pulled this as well, but I'm curious if you had to flash back to stock firmware and recovery to get it. I tried using a rooted stock rom and the software update screen would give me a "modified devices don't get updates" message. I actually had to have stock recovery and system installed so that it would download. Did you have to do the same thing?
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Interestingly enough, it downloaded perfectly fine for me, even though my device was "modified"...
bigleague4040 said:
Interestingly enough, it downloaded perfectly fine for me, even though my device was "modified"...
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I have a modified boot.img- perhaps that blocks the ota?
My device is rooted.
It is on 4.2.1 genuine T-mobile software.
When I want to update OverTheAir this message pop out.
See attachement (I don't know how to put image here).
What can I do to update OTA?
I played around with this a while ago (my flash counter is at 29 last time I checked).
I think you have a few options:
1) maybe unroot and that might remove the modified status
2) use heimdall or odin to flash back to unrooted stock, including stock recovery and boot.img
3) flash one of the rooted JB roms, either stock, cyanogen, or our very own Teamapexq rom
4) download the OTA or the JB rom from the web and repackage it yourself to a flashable zip.
Option 1 might not work. Option 2-4 will work, 4 would be the most fun.
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gee one said:
I played around with this a while ago (my flash counter is at 29 last time I checked).
I think you have a few options:
1) maybe unroot and that might remove the modified status
2) use heimdall or odin to flash back to unrooted stock, including stock recovery and boot.img
3) flash one of the rooted JB roms, either stock, cyanogen, or our very own Teamapexq rom
4) download the OTA or the JB rom from the web and repackage it yourself to a flashable zip.
Option 1 might not work. Option 2-4 will work, 4 would be the most fun.
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OMG, I would like to do it with no hassle.
I just want something to work ... grrr.
Option 2 would probably be the most straightforward. Essentially, you are unrooting. I just remembered, Samsung has Kies which might restore it to stock. You can download it from their website.
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mazak23 said:
My device is rooted.
It is on 4.2.1 genuine T-mobile software.
When I want to update OverTheAir this message pop out.
See attachement (I don't know how to put image here).
What can I do to update OTA?
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the update in this thread is only about JB 4.1.2 that is officially the latest and the last one for our mobile. your message box is normal, there is no need for the usage of the OTA anymore since then. if u want to update to JB 4.3 follow this unofficial image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463661
Holy thread resurrection Batman!!!
Oh boy. Here we go. Having troubles here.
I am trying to re-flash my phone to stock so I can return it under the protection plan. I firmly believe my radio might be on the fritz.
Anyway, I used the directions here:
http://theunlockr.com/2013/04/25/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-4g-sgh-t699/
Now it all completed successfully, and the phone is chilling at the SAMSUNG screen trying to boot. Not sure what to do at this point. Its been sitting there for a good 5 minutes.
Please help!!
UPDATE: Went into stock recovery, cleared Cache and Data, then rebooted it again, and it booted!
Which JelyBean Version...!!!
After installing this update what will be my os (JB 4.X.X) version???
saurabhsaurabhrai said:
After installing this update what will be my os (JB 4.X.X) version???
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it is just from stock, will be updated to JB 4.1.2

Quick question about going from 4.1 to 4.4 (Been gone for a while)

So like the title says I have been out of the ROM game for a little bit. Every couple of months I check in and see whats new and flash something else.
I was on the Jelly Beans ROM (Build 16 I think) and Android 4.1. I did some searching last night as was going to try flashing Gummy ROM…bad idea. I am guessing I needed something prior to jumping up to a 4.4 base. I booted to recovery and wiped everything and tried to flash with no luck. So the phone would not boot and I could only get into recovery and download mode. I did not have my micro SD adapter in order to get jelly beans back on it to flash so I ended up having to use odin to flash a stock rooted 4.1 image. Finally got everything back up and running but I still want to try some of the 4.4 ROMs. So what exactly do I need first in order to flash one? (Modem maybe)…if you know for sure why that happened and what I need to do please let me know. Thanks!
My Current "About Phone" Info...
Android Version - 4.1.2
Baseband version - I535VRBMB1
Jelly Beans - Build 20
P.S. I have tried doing the research and nothing I have found has been clear but one thing I came across is the official 4.3 update was bad news and broke the root methods? So should I stay away from 4.3 ROMs and is the old root method blocked in 4.4 as well or is that a different case since it wasn't actually released for our phone. If that makes sense lol
aholeinthewor1d said:
So like the title says I have been out of the ROM game for a little bit. Every couple of months I check in and see whats new and flash something else.
I was on the Jelly Beans ROM (Build 16 I think) and Android 4.1. I did some searching last night as was going to try flashing Gummy ROM…bad idea. I am guessing I needed something prior to jumping up to a 4.4 base. I booted to recovery and wiped everything and tried to flash with no luck. So the phone would not boot and I could only get into recovery and download mode. I did not have my micro SD adapter in order to get jelly beans back on it to flash so I ended up having to use odin to flash a stock rooted 4.1 image. Finally got everything back up and running but I still want to try some of the 4.4 ROMs. So what exactly do I need first in order to flash one? (Modem maybe)…if you know for sure why that happened and what I need to do please let me know. Thanks!
My Current "About Phone" Info...
Android Version - 4.1.2
Baseband version - I535VRBMB1
Jelly Beans - Build 20
P.S. I have tried doing the research and nothing I have found has been clear but one thing I came across is the official 4.3 update was bad news and broke the root methods? So should I stay away from 4.3 ROMs and is the old root method blocked in 4.4 as well or is that a different case since it wasn't actually released for our phone. If that makes sense lol
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you need the latest recoveries to flash kk roms. cwm is here https://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
and twrp is here http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/102. make sure you download the d2vzw version
if you're rooted you should have no problems flashing 4.4 rom. I recommend beanstalk from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2354113. has worked great for me. you have to also update the modem to ML1 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788313
as always do a nandroid before you do anything and you should backup your sd card to your computer. they probably will move post this to another thread.
good luck
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you need the latest recoveries to flash kk roms. cwm is here https://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
and twrp is here http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/102. make sure you download the d2vzw version
if you're rooted you should have no problems flashing 4.4 rom. I recommend beanstalk from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2354113. has worked great for me. you have to also update the modem to ML1 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788313
as always do a nandroid before you do anything and you should backup your sd card to your computer. they probably will move post this to another thread.
good luck
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ahh I didn't even think of that? I do know for a fact whatever version of CWM i had was not recent..Are you sure that is the only issue? so with a newer recovery...like I have now that I fixed my phone..I can flash a 4.4 ROM no problem? I could have sworn I remember hearing something about needing a certain modem...or something similar
aholeinthewor1d said:
ahh I didn't even think of that? I do know for a fact whatever version of CWM i had was not recent..Are you sure that is the only issue? so with a newer recovery...like I have now that I fixed my phone..I can flash a 4.4 ROM no problem? I could have sworn I remember hearing something about needing a certain modem...or something similar
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yes. flash the ML1 modem. I provided the link in my previous post. it's a fact that earlier recoveries won't flash kk roms. I found out the hard way myself. hopefully you'll have titanium or rom toolbox to backup your apps with data.
dandydon414 said:
yes. flash the ML1 modem. I provided the link in my previous post. it's a fact that earlier recoveries won't flash kk roms. I found out the hard way myself. hopefully you'll have titanium or rom toolbox to backup your apps with data.
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Thanks a lot!!.. So how do I know if my recovery is new enough? I was never a fan of the touch recoveries because I felt like it would be easier to do something on accident so I haven't tried one in a while...I am using clockwork mod recovery 6.0.4.5. Is that new enough??
Also one lasttttt question I swear...can someone give me a quick list of the different recovery options that are out there now...and maybe list some features of each...thank you
aholeinthewor1d said:
Thanks a lot!!.. So how do I know if my recovery is new enough? I was never a fan of the touch recoveries because I felt like it would be easier to do something on accident so I haven't tried one in a while...I am using clockwork mod recovery 6.0.4.5. Is that new enough??
Also one lasttttt question I swear...can someone give me a quick list of the different recovery options that are out there now...and maybe list some features of each...thank you
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that recovery is fine. i've only used cwm and twrp.. had some problems with philz recovery so I ditched it. basically they're all the same. twrp lets you name your back where as cwm just uses some default name which of course you can change with a file manager. twrp also wipes all 3 (system, cache and dalvik) with one swipe where as cwm requires 3 separate operations. I really haven't done much in recovery other than wiping and flashing. I'm actually on the latest twrp and have had no problems flashing kk roms. keep in mind that you can't backup in cwm and restore it using twrp and vice versa. it's really more a personal preference as far as I'm concerned.

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