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I am currently on AT&T using the TILT (WM 6.1).
There are very few things I like about my TILT. However the biggest thing is tethering and using it as a wifi access point - which I enjoy freely.....
It is my preference to stay on AT&T because I would like to keep my TILT as a back up - insert my SIM from whatever new (Android) phone into it to use its tethering and wifi access point ability.
I was interested in the iPhone (4) but because it uses a micro sim, that rules out any degree of cross compatibility I need with my SIM card.
My next move is to change phones to an Android. My case for Android is simple : I need a phone I can set up for both tethering and as a wifi access point. The iPhone allows tethering but at an added price. The iPhone does not allow for wifi access point usage. I am interested in the Samsung Galaxy S. I have some questions:
1. Has anyone been successful in setting up an Android, particularly AT&T Samsung Captivate for tethering and as a wifi access point?
2. I understand AT&T does not allow non-market apps onto the phone. So if you are a Captivate user how can this be accomplished?
3. If you have accomplished this and you are not an AT&T Samsung Captivate user, please tell me what carrier you are with and how you accomplished it.
I am aware of a process called rooting. I am no techie and don't wish to risk bricking my phone. I am also aware that Android 2.2 will provide tethering (or is it wifi access point capability?). Which carrier will allow or support this? Or how can a user enable these features?
Is anyone aware as to which carriers will either allow this or present the least barriers for a users work around?
I am open to switching carriers, but as I said, I do like using my SIM and sticking it back into my TILT to use the tethering or wifi access point if I am not able to use these features in a replacement phone without paying exhorbitant prices. Mind you, I am grandfathered into AT&T's unlimited data plan. The unlimited data plan and wifi access point will be handy when I purchase the iPad or use the phone to allow other devices to connect via wifi.
I used internet connection sharing on my Blackjack a few times. It was a pretty nice option to have. I just bought a Captivate on the 29th and was hopping to find something similar. My assumption is that you will have to root your phone to get by AT&T's road blocks. You will, at the very least, have to get a program to help you side load cause AT&T has blocked that and they have also blocked certain apps from showing up in the market.
I went from the Tilt to the Backflip (which I wouldn't recommend because of so many better Android phones). I also enjoyed the freedom to tether. With an unrooted Android phone using PDAnet (have to have installed on pc & phone) I've been able to tether no problem.
Don't remember off-hand if it shows up in the Market. If not, you'll have to use something like Droid Explorer to install it. Not a hard process, even for a non-techie. HTH
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Yeah, after posting that I did some searching. There is PDAnet and Easytether. AT&T blocks both from the market but you just have to take out your SIM card and then connect to Wi-Fi and they'll show up.
@lillejord. Do I understand you correctly? Even though AT&T may block applications from appearing at the AT&T Android Market, you remove the SIM and then navigate to the AT&T Android Market and - bingo! The otherwise errant applications are available to both download and install?
Can't comment about the US-specific versions of the SGS... I have an SGS I9000 bought in Hong Kong (it's unlocked, unbranded etc)
It is on Android 2.1 (Eclair) and it already has the WiFi AP functionality built in (I've used it... worked fine)... Settings -> Wireless and Network -> Mobile AP settings
As for using it "tethered" (ie. via a USB cable), when you plug it in (assuming you've set the "Ask on connection" option), it gives you 4 options:
- Samsung Kies
- Media Player
- Mass Storage
- PC Internet
The last one lets you use the phone's data connection...
There is also a 3rd option, within the Samsung Kies application, there is a "Tethering" applet, that also lets you use the phone's data connection, but it allows you to configure a whole bunch of stuff and you can create multiple data connection profiles etc...
Not sure exactly how ATT does their data plans between different phones. But isn't the android "specific" plan different than the standard smart phone plan as far as how the phones work and switching sim cards/cost.
I know that when I had my T-mo MDA (HTC Wizard) I could tether (either via usb or bluetooth) and use as a wireless access point), so the Tilt (in theory) should be able to work the same) unless the ATT/their software, crippled it. Once again, not sure how ATT has their network set.
-- Not to go OT from the thread, if so, I apologize.. but I was wondering, if you have a WM powered phone, running Android, does the internet plan change or stay the same/work properly.
To answer your question, using the internet on an Android ROM running on a WinMo phone works properly without the need to manually change any settings. At least it worked for me. I ran Android on my T-Mo US Touch Pro2 and used the web browser with no issues. I can't comment on how/if it would work with another phone/carrier so YMMV.
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I have the HTC G2 Android running on version 2.2 through T-mobil
I used to have cable through COX but discontinued it as I am able to use the phone as a hot spot with tethering. I can connect multiple machines via this hotspot. It is a 4G phone, and runs at 14.4 (mbps I think).
I didn't do anything special to the phone, and the hotpot is a simple selection of the settings.
Hope this helps (Arizona)
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It need kernel supported. Most of 2.1 kernel not ready.
SIM removal is not needed.
1.Turn off WiFi
2.Turn on Airplane Mode (Turns off SIM id Google allows all apps now at step 3)
3.Turn on WiFi
4.Download At&t banned apps from the Market
So I rooted my LG Lucid 2 from this guide: http://androidforums.com/lucid-2-al...ition-5-7-13-full-technical-notes-inside.html
The one thing I noticed is that afterwards, tethering by any method (wifi tether, usb tether, bluetooth tether) is now impossible. After doing some research i think that the rooting method removed the system app "hotspotprovision.apk"
I know the root for this phone had to dissable some root checker tool that lg built into the phone, but do you think that removing the hotspot app is necessary? or can i get it back without having my phone tell verizon that i'm messing with my phone (the link tells all about the weird root checking tool LG tried to hide)?
Any help would be awesome! I just need some way to tether due to it being my main source of internet when i am at school.
all apps like pda net, foxfi, wifi tether, and all the other apps just start with errors, and when i try to start up the built in usb tether option i just get an error saying "Sorry! Unfortunately Provision has stopped"
Even with a factory reset and/or re flashing the firmware is still doesnt work.
Has ANYONE else with this phone tried to use any tether apps? If so have they worked or failed? I don't even know if this is happening to just me, or if everyone who owns this phone is without the tether ability
It would just help me a lot to know if somebody else has the same problem or even doesn't. I'm trying to decide if I need to return the phone or if i just need to wait for a software update of some sort..
Thanks guys for the help.
USB tethering
Nikguy said:
Even with a factory reset and/or re flashing the firmware is still doesnt work.
Has ANYONE else with this phone tried to use any tether apps? If so have they worked or failed? I don't even know if this is happening to just me, or if everyone who owns this phone is without the tether ability
It would just help me a lot to know if somebody else has the same problem or even doesn't. I'm trying to decide if I need to return the phone or if i just need to wait for a software update of some sort..
Thanks guys for the help.
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I recommend EasyTether. It works with non-rooted phones, and the LG LUCID that has been rooted. I particularly like the fact that I can use it with both Windows and Linux.
Ok thanks ill give it a shot! Ill let everyone know if it works in a sec
So for some reason no matter what i do, wireless tethering wont work unless i bought the tether service for verizon... i got the usb tether side of foxfi to work but so far wireless tethering is out of the question.
I cant believe no one has posted about this problem except me! Is it literally only me that has this problem? Ive been posting about this all over the internet since the phones release and so far no one has tried to use a tether app to confirm that this is not just a defect with my particular phone!
Im having the same problems
No functional WiFi tethering
But other people have had successes
I going to try usb wired tethering next
Ok cool, thanks for the response. I was able to get usb tethering to work on pda net, but that requires installing another client on my computer as well, and connecting isnt always seamless. I mostly want a wifi hotspot to power all my other wifi only devices once i go off to school at the end of august.
So has anyone figured out how to get the wireless tether working after root? Just curios.
Not that is know of... Head over to android central. They are working on a ROM there which cooooould lead to a tether option in the future
Mine wont work either.
how to get your lg lucid running ICS 4.0.4 with wifi tether
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So has anyone figured out how to get the wireless tether working after root? Just curios.
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I have managed to get my lg lucid running ICS working with wifi tether (infrastructure mode)
check out the how-to over at my site.
i'm sorry it will not let me post links. heres address no dots
gringo466howto blogspot com
I had that issue with an old LG Optimus Logic
I'm glad I read this thread, because i was about to root my Lucid 2, but I probably would've ran into this problem too. I think some people who have this phone with Verizon Wireless were given a different type of software for tethering. I'm guessing me and you have one of those ones where It only works solo. No mods allowed, but the app below has been said to work regardless. I guess it's worth a shot.
Verizon uses an authentic piece of software for their tethering protocol. I don't know why it seems so mysterious, but it doesn't seem to work exactly like most hotspot protocols. You might have to confess, and get them to help you out. If i were you, and If the original tethering app doesn't work, then try to install the stock firmware back, and use a different root method next time.
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Try 'Tetherfy(WiFi Tether w/o Root) on play store. I don't think i'll be able to make an 'apk' file out of Verizon's 'Mobile Hotspot' app. I believe they have it locked into phone.
The guy's method in the post above might work too. I don't see why not.
hey there
I have noticed your post for a long time and tried various kinds of methods to use wireless tether but failed.
someone told me this device can be flashed to as980 firmware,so i tried and then my android native hotspot function works!
there is my way .
1.download as870 .kdz firmware from somewhere.here is downlaod link(add dots by yourself plz) pan baidu com/s/1ETkrO
下载724.7M)
2.enable "download mode"on your phone
3.use KDZ_FW_UPD to flash
system will be automaticly restart and you will found that your apps and settings are remained.
Hi guys,
I am loving the Nexus 5. I've ordered it, and should be here in 2 days. Only issue is, I need the program android-wifi-tether https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ to be working on this phone.
You see, I have a data plan from my carrier which DOES NOT ALLOW you to tether = (. However, the program wifi tether works great to get around this. Previously I used to use an App called Fox-Fi which did something similar.
Currently I'm running a TW based Samsung S3, because WiFi Tether will only work on TW-based roms, not AOSP-based roms.
Do you think there is any chance to get WiFi Tether, (or similar) App that will work on the Google Nexus 5?
Thoughts?
It looks like the biggest requirement is Netfilter, which is essentially IP tables. Try installing IP tables, and see if the program will run. Otherwise, you can always use another tethering app like easytether, or another program (I know that there are loads out there). If you are rooted, it should not be much of a hassle to install.
Es Filexplorer will do it for you once rooted and a great file management app also
Thanks guys. I'll give it a shot once device is in my hands. Thanks.
Another method for this I use that sometimes works is to tether using the default app and just use a User Agent switch in google chrome for HTML traffic. My video games as well as spotify ETC work like normal I only need the UA switcher for traffic within the browser.
Wait, am I missing something here? OP, tethering is a standard feature in Nexus phones, esp now that Verizon is out of the equation.
Why can't you just use the built-in tethering? If it's an issue of your provider being able to track that, then I don't think any of the 3rd party tools are going to help. Typically, just a user-agent switcher can take care of the problem on the device that you're tethered to.
I'm dealing with this issue right now. I had a note 2 running macks rom on my sprint note 2 that let you hotspot free. The N5 tether/hotspot does not work. We need a work around..
Engineer4life said:
I'm dealing with this issue right now. I had a note 2 running macks rom on my sprint note 2 that let you hotspot free. The N5 tether/hotspot does not work. We need a work around..
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My carrier has 2 data plans. 6gb for $30 gives you LTE and tether/hotspot. Or Unlimited LTE for $45 -but tether/hotspot is disabled/not allowed.
I'm on the $45 plan and built-in tether does not work. But the app "wifi-tether" gets around this and works Great!
The issue isn't user-agent. With built-in tether I can't even get a data signal. It will create the a dud Wi-Fi hotspot.
Let's hope IPTables works! I'm sure Bluetooth tether and USB tether may still work, but is much more annoying.
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My carrier has 2 data plans. 6gb for $30 gives you LTE and tether/hotspot. Or Unlimited LTE for $45 -but tether/hotspot is disabled/not allowed.
I'm on the $45 plan and built-in tether does not work. But the app "wifi-tether" gets around this and works Great!
The issue isn't user-agent. With built-in tether I can't even get a data signal. It will create the a dud Wi-Fi hotspot.
Let's hope IPTables works! I'm sure Bluetooth tether and USB tether may still work, but is much more annoying.
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which version of the wifi tether app did you use that works? It seems some versions are picky about some phones I just want to get everything I need for when my Nexus 5 arrives
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which version of the wifi tether app did you use that works? It seems some versions are picky about some phones I just want to get everything I need for when my Nexus 5 arrives
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For my TW-based Samsung Galaxy S3, I used the file "wifi_tether_v3_4-experimental1.apk", then I changed the SSID and changed the WPA2-PSK phasephrase.
*** I think the trick was, if you did NOT change the default SSID or added a WPA2 password the App did not work. After you set a WPA2 password, you can then turn off encryption or change the SSID back to default.
But I don't think know if this will work for the Nexus 5. **Fingers-crossed!
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There is another thread with more discussion on this matter here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512674
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The issue isn't user-agent. With built-in tether I can't even get a data signal. It will create the a dud Wi-Fi hotspot.
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Is that the case on a Nexus device or something else? In theory my plan doesn't allow tethering, but I've never had an issue with the built-in hotspot. I'm just trying to figure out how your carrier would even know you were using a hotspot versus having data requests come from the phone itself. The traffic should look the same, for the most part.
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Is that the case on a Nexus device or something else? In theory my plan doesn't allow tethering, but I've never had an issue with the built-in hotspot. I'm just trying to figure out how your carrier would even know you were using a hotspot versus having data requests come from the phone itself. The traffic should look the same, for the most part.
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I believe when you tether, your phone creates a secondary data connection pipe for tethering data. Apps like WiFi-Tether spoof this, and can even create an internal proxy server, such that all tethered data will look like on-device mobile browsing data.
My carrier let's me only create one data connection, thus tether is not allowed. However if I insert my SIM into a "MiFi device", then I can "share" the data connection, as only 1 data connection is being established.
I MIGHT BE WRONG, but this is what it looks like is happening in my findings. Hence the use of IPTABLES to re-route.
I'm not sure why AOSP-based custom Roms could never get WiFi tether working, but TouchWiz (TW) based roms could. I assume something in the kernel. However, I need this working badly.
Interesting, I'd never really given the process a detailed consideration but that sounds like a plausible explanation for both how they detect it, how they block it, and how software modifications let you get around it.
I am currently using wifi tether on evo lte on sprint, fine. Thinking of getting nexus 5. Will this app work on it? that link to the other thread was about tmobile and data plans and stock hotspot app. I am interested in wifi tether app with root. What are the settings to make this work on N5?
Thanks
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There is another thread with more discussion on this matter here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512674
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Dig through this thread. Somewhere there's a post explaining what to do to stop your carrier from checking if you are tethering. It requires editing a database and changing the proxy to ipv4 instead of ipv6.
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I know there is at least 1 method for bypassing T-Mobile tethering restrictions for the Nexus5
For example: This thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512674&page=8 )
However, are there any other simpler methods that don't require rooting your phone?
T-Mobile's unlimited data plan includes unlimited data for the Nexus5, but not for tethering. T-Mobile gives you 2.5GB tethering hotspot for free, so you can use your Nexus5 to tether. But it appears that not even apps like FoxFi help when you've reached your 2.5GB tethering limit.
I used my Nexus7 tethered to my Nexus5 yesterday, and when i went to a chrome webpage on the tablet, it prompted me to upgrade my tethering plan....
I was stunned.........
First) because I didn't know T-Mobile could track tethering on a Nexus5......... and I still dont exactly understand how they track it...
Second) because even if they could somehow track tethering, I assumed that since I was using another android device, they wouldn't even be able to detect the traffic difference between Nexus5 and Nexus7
Third) because FoxFi didn't work !
Are there any methods (similar to FoxFi) that work? or are T-Mobile tethering restrictions unavoidable unless rooted?
Based on my understanding, Google built something into the Nexus 5 that reports tethering back to the carrier. It's unfortunately but certainly understandable as I'm sure the carriers have been asking for it for a while. The reason this breaks FoxFi as well is that FoxFi seems to use the built-in tethering with a hack to mask traffic. Since the built-in tethering is reporting it as tethering to the carrier anyway, masking the traffic doesn't help.
The modification to settings.db appears to disable that reporting with a single value, a setting that is obviously not normally available to the user. Since apps like FoxFi have been able to use the built-in tethering to work around carrier restrictions in the past, I think you will need to see development on a new app (like the old Wireless Tether for Root Users that predates the built-in tethering) to get around the restrictions without modifying system files.
What bothers me more is that my plan includes tethering and I am still hitting the paywall on my Nexus 5.
Any updates to this?
I have the $20 unlimited and unthrottled 4G data add on, it comes with only 2.5GB of tethering, then I get the upsell message.
try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581035
Pretty sure that they check more ways than one. They did ask Google to put in a checker (found in the changelogs for official update) but also they check via the header of the packet of info that passes through their towers. Some have had success with just changing the user agent of their browser, but if you are completely stock then I think you have to edit the framework, the sqlite option, and the browser agent. Might be easier to use a custom rom that doesn't have the framework stuff in it. I don't use Tmo anymore, so can't test this stuff out. When I had my S4 on Tmo, I had to use a VPN, custom wifi tether app, and only then could I tether without being sent to the upsell page (my plan at the time did not even include tethering either).
I'd like to use the native Wifi tethering on a rooted, stock ROM Verizon S3 WITHOUT the need for any mobile data. I'll be using it only to allow connected devices to access content that's already on the phone. It's a custom application not for any sort of public distribution. This isn't a problem on AT&T S3s (or other phones), I've done that successfully, the phone just lets it happen. But the Verizon phone won't let me do it--without a plan that includes tethering the phone shuts down the hotspot after a few seconds with the "you need to go buy a tethering plan" dialog. I'd like to use native tethering instead of another app if possible to keep my code simple and uniform across phone models, and avoid a dependency on non-free third party apps.
Anyone have an idea how I can convince the phone to leave a native non-mobile-connected hotspot up, without a tethering plan?
Thanks!
John
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I'd like to use the native Wifi tethering on a rooted, stock ROM Verizon S3 WITHOUT the need for any mobile data. I'll be using it only to allow connected devices to access content that's already on the phone. It's a custom application not for any sort of public distribution. This isn't a problem on AT&T S3s (or other phones), I've done that successfully, the phone just lets it happen. But the Verizon phone won't let me do it--without a plan that includes tethering the phone shuts down the hotspot after a few seconds with the "you need to go buy a tethering plan" dialog. I'd like to use native tethering instead of another app if possible to keep my code simple and uniform across phone models, and avoid a dependency on non-free third party apps.
Anyone have an idea how I can convince the phone to leave a native non-mobile-connected hotspot up, without a tethering plan?
Thanks!
John
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I just looked at my old S3 and it works on custom roms but since it's stock that may be the problem your running into
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