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Hi everyone. First of all, many thanks to Gary for Root. It was quick and painless.
Now that we have root, I was wondering if anyone knows what needs to be deleted in order to get rid of that pesky pop up menu you get by pressing on the Chevron/Arrow in the middle of the bar.
I have the Wizz Bar (what an unfortunate name) installed and it does the job so much better. If you're wondering what Wizz Bar is, it basically allows you to pick your own applications or commands and bind them to the little Chevron or Arrow in the middle of the Honeycomb Bar (also called the "Mini Apps Tray")
However the built in action that pops up the Task Manager/World Clock/Calculator etc also initiates. Is there some way to remove the TouchWiz Apps Tray?
Or does this require more tinkering than a simple apk deletion from system/apps
somebody9 said:
Or does this require more tinkering than a simple apk deletion from system/apps
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It's much more involved. That aspect of touchwiz is buried somewhere in the frameworks. The last time I checked (a month ago), several people on both the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 8.9 forums were looking for the same thing, but I haven't seen any good solutions.
If you find something over in one of those forums, try to get information on HOW they did it, and I'll try to reproduce it with ours.
I know with HTC phones modding such things requires the knowledge of decompiling, compling and signing apk's using apkTool or apkManager and editing smalis in notepad ++. You would have to track down which particular file contains the code and then know how to edit it to hide the taskbar. As an example just the simple task of hiding the clock in the notification bar of my HTC Incredible phone required the addition of 2 lines of code in the clock.smali file inside SystemUI.apk and the only way to get it to work was to push the file back to the phone and set permissions with adb. You couldn't just copy and paste it back in.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I actually did go look at a bunch of 10.1 and 8.9 ROMs and it looks like there may be a solution out there. I've contacted one of the ROM developers for an answer.
If someone tells you what file to edit and what lines of code to use please post it as it will be useful to the community.
You may install honeybar form market to hide/unhide the bottom bar(notification and clock as well)
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i just tried honeybar and it doesn't work for me. I also have go launcher ex installed so not sure if it's conflicting. I see the white box for honeybar, but pressing on it multiple times does nothing (it even goes away eventually as described in the install notes).
Honeybar isn't the solution that most of us are looking for. I myself love the Honeycomb default bar. It's the Mini-Apps Tray that is entirely useless. The least that Samsung could have done was to make the shortcuts changeable by the user.
The whole point of quick access to shortcuts is to have a quick access to the applications you use the most without flipping through homescreens or going to the Apps Tray. Thanks Samsung, I really need the World Time and Calculator more than I need the Browser and Settings Panel.
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Hi everyone. First of all, many thanks to Gary for Root. It was quick and painless.
Now that we have root, I was wondering if anyone knows what needs to be deleted in order to get rid of that pesky pop up menu you get by pressing on the Chevron/Arrow in the middle of the bar.
I have the Wizz Bar (what an unfortunate name) installed and it does the job so much better. If you're wondering what Wizz Bar is, it basically allows you to pick your own applications or commands and bind them to the little Chevron or Arrow in the middle of the Honeycomb Bar (also called the "Mini Apps Tray")
However the built in action that pops up the Task Manager/World Clock/Calculator etc also initiates. Is there some way to remove the TouchWiz Apps Tray?
Or does this require more tinkering than a simple apk deletion from system/apps
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I've wondered whether there was a way to intercept the trigger that touching the chevron activates and just redirecting it to another command (such as what happens when you hit the "home" button after you've installed a home replacement). That way we wouldn't have to worry about hacking the touchwiz dock for customizing, we just replace it altogether so something else is invoked by touching the shortcut.
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I've wondered whether there was a way to intercept the trigger that touching the chevron activates and just redirecting it to another command (such as what happens when you hit the "home" button after you've installed a home replacement). That way we wouldn't have to worry about hacking the touchwiz dock for customizing, we just replace it altogether so something else is invoked by touching the shortcut.
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Re-mapping the function would be more involved than just turning it off but it is possible if you know what you're doing. For HTC phones there's a mod called rosie remap which does just about the same thing but its a complicated hack. It remaps a + button on the phone that ads apps to the homescreen, the mod allows you to reassign the button so it opens any app you want. I believe this is a framework-res.apk mod. Eventually someone who is familar with touchwiz will do these mods, if they haven't already for the 8.9 or 10.1, which should all be pretty much the same.
Edit: I think the chevron function would be in the touchwiz apk located in system/app but I don't know what Samsung calls it. HTC calls their Sense UI Rosie and you mod Rosie.apk to do the remapping of their UI specific buttons. If the chevron is part of honeycomb itself then it would be in the framework-res.apk file I bbelieve.
This is good info flowing in. I'm gonna see if I can figure out some more.
On a positive note - guess what Samsung changed? Exactly what I was *****ing about :
Mini Apps : Upgraded so you can choose and edit your own Mini Apps tray. You can easily access favorite features such as Calendar, Email, or PenMemo as a pop up over full screen applications.
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On a positive note - guess what Samsung changed? Exactly what I was *****ing about :
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Was there an update that I don't know about that allows this??? I really like the idea of the mini app tray, but like was said before, not having the ability to put your most used apps there makes it pretty useless.
Please explain how apps can now (or in the near future) be changed in the tray.
Thanks!!!
I guess until they release 7.7 we won't know. Unless there's an update out on KIES. But I really doubt it.
Confirmed:7.7 has fully customisable mini apps tray...i'm disappointed in Samsung for releasing 'premium' products in such close succession that are so different in functionality. Why did they not include this basic and important feature on all new of their new tablet products? I actually feel somewhat conned now
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rEVOLVE said:
i just tried honeybar and it doesn't work for me. I also have go launcher ex installed so not sure if it's conflicting. I see the white box for honeybar, but pressing on it multiple times does nothing (it even goes away eventually as described in the install notes).
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doesn't go launcher ex look like **** on the tab+? i installed it yesterday and when i found out that i can't remove the dock, i uninstalled it.
diospada11 said:
doesn't go launcher ex look like **** on the tab+? i installed it yesterday and when i found out that i can't remove the dock, i uninstalled it.
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Pare, actually like it better because i don't like stock honeycomb desktop and app drawer. I set swipe up gesture to hide/unide the dock and also changed the stock dock icons.
Once we're able to customize the Touchwiz shortcuts, or hijack the launch command so we can tell it to launch something else, I'll be much happier.
For those who've not seen this function in action yet, check it out in this video at 2.05: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=tBpzweqvKJA
Surely Samsung can put this function in tab plus on an update ... and they need to. The app tray is almost functionless otherwise. The presence of this thread is sufficient evidence that there is a high demand and several unsatisfied customers. Many customers have spent over £400 on this tablet. Why did they put it onto the 7.7 which was going on sale only a few days/weeks after the tab plus?
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Just for my two cents, I would also like to see the app tray made editable. I've only had my unit for a couple of days, and I already feel its wasted on me for what it holds. Hoping for that to change in a coming update.
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On a positive note - guess what Samsung changed? Exactly what I was *****ing about :
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Where is this "mini apps?" Did I miss something?
Hi guyz
Is is just me or does anyone else also feel that the majority of the apps take up screen estate with the lone lingering menu button at the bottom
I wanted to move away from sense launcher and thought of adopting the Go Lancher, but for this the home screen itself shows the menu bar below (ugghh!).
Thankfully apex/nova came to the rescue.
But many other appls like XDA, reddit ... show that wasting part of the screen.
So do we have to wait till developers update their apps for OneX? (i thought since galaxy nexus already is a 4.6 " screen this issue was already behind us)
carporsche said:
Hi guyz
Is is just me or does anyone else also feel that the majority of the apps take up screen estate with the lone lingering menu button at the bottom
I wanted to move away from sense launcher and thought of adopting the Go Lancher, but for this the home screen itself shows the menu bar below (ugghh!).
Thankfully apex/nova came to the rescue.
But many other appls like XDA, reddit ... show that wasting part of the screen.
So do we have to wait till developers update their apps for OneX? (i thought since galaxy nexus already is a 4.6 " screen this issue was already behind us)
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It's an ICS menu button issue. There's a great post on the Verge discussing it as well. http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/6/3003345/the-menu-button-an-insight
Because the HOX didn't use a menu button on the bottom of the phone (good) it does this instead (bad)
I'd personally like to see the menu key functionality replaced by a long press of home/recent apps. That way you can just bring it up when you need it, like older Android phones.
Should see something like this once we get that BL issue resolved.
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I'd personally like to see the menu key functionality replaced by a long press of home/recent apps. That way you can just bring it up when you need it, like older Android phones.
Should see something like this once we get that BL issue resolved.
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Or if developers followed the development guide the problem wouldn't exist at all since the overflow menu would be located on the top bar.
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As per the Verge post linked earlier:
The menu button. It's a button, that won't, just won't, go away. Google have already attempted to kill it by introducing the action overflow in Ice Cream Sandwich. They've removed it from the default roster of buttons on the Galaxy Nexus, and with good reason. But it refuses to die.
This mainly because app developers are not reading the guidelines and saying "Let's follow these." They're keeping with the archaic menu button. Worse still, the apps are not Holo themed, and in many cases, still made for Gingerbread. Take Google Currents. While a very nice app, it still has menu button support and is made for Gingerbread. This is an app BY GOOGLE, and it still has menu button support. This needs to - must - change.
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i search within the forums topics but I didn't found anything similar.
So I think that there are enough users that are still using the official HTC Rom with Sense 4.0 and are annoyed by the 3 dots menu that appeared in the applications non optimized for Android 4.0 (ICS).
I already discuss these aspects with the HTC representative in Romania (on line chat) suggesting them to include in an official update some kind of modding of the virtual buttons (like on pressing recent apps longer to go into menu section - on Sensation, official ICS Update Sense 3.6, long pressing home = recent apps) and he assured me that my problem will be reported to HTC and it will be taken into consideration.
But I'm not very sure that they will be listening only one voice so I decided to start this kind of petition, maybe they will move faster, or do something for this issue.
So please vote if are you for official modding of the annoying 3 dots menu on the HTC One S / X?.
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So please vote if are you for official modding of the annoying 3 dots menu on the HTC One S / X?.
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One vote from me
Won't happen because of the button design
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one vote from me
I hope that this petion will help in delete vitrual button, because it's very annoying
One vote from me even tho rooting fixed it
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You have my vote, since I'm not planning on rooting my One S anytime soon.
I don't think the 3 dots menu should be removed. It serves as the menu button for those applications which do not have ICS style menu button (on top-right corner). For example, Facebook app.
If it's removed, we'll no longer be able to call the menu. The thing we should is to urge the app developers to integrate the ICS style menu button, so that this 3 dots would not be displayed.
If you wanna bring up such an idea, suggest ways for the company to remove the 3 dot menu. Don't just expect magic to happen where one day it will all be good. HTC cannot make a capacitive menu button magically appear next to the home button. Tell the app creators to make a better logical menu button placement on-screen.
at least, for rooted phones, we can mode it like Galaxy S style.
- mod to remove 3 dots menu
- mod to change the multi-task button serve as menu button
- mod to bring multi-tasking on long press of menu button (or home button in case if you prefer 2.*.* method)
The ideea is to assign the menu option either to home or recent apps capacitive buttons. Like for instance, in Sense 3.6 from Htc Sensation (running official Android 4.0 update) the home button has 2 functions: if it is pressed normaly is home if pressed longer is recent apps. So, as I mentioned in the beginning of my post, Htc should roll an update that will assign the menu button to either home or recent apps button as described above.
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Please post in the correct section.
I vote for getting rid of the 3-dot button.
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Hi Everyone,
My wife owns a HTC Desire HD (non-rooted, standard ROM, etc - much to my disgust!), and on it she is running Ginger Bread (Android 2.3). I notice when she pulls the "curtain" down that her recently opened Apps are stored at the top. This is a very handy feature, as when she closes an App she simply goes back to the curtain and starts from where she left off.
I on the other hand own a HTC Sensation, with Elegancia Sense 4 ROM installed (as per my signature below), and the only icon that I see at the top of my curtain is the settings button. I would really like to see recently used Apps in my curtain, as currently I need to go to the Apps menu, and then click on the App that way, or alternatively find the App on one of my "Desktops" and then click on it there. A simple slide and touch is better than constant tapping in my opinion.
If anybody knows how to add recently used Apps to the curtain whilst using Elegancia can you please let me know how?
Kind Regards,
Davo
Well I don't use elgancia but the reason you don't see that recent apps its because its set that way as default I assume. I don't know if that tom includes 'tweaks' but you can change that feature there
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Hi Everyone,
My wife owns a HTC Desire HD (non-rooted, standard ROM, etc - much to my disgust!), and on it she is running Ginger Bread (Android 2.3). I notice when she pulls the "curtain" down that her recently opened Apps are stored at the top. This is a very handy feature, as when she closes an App she simply goes back to the curtain and starts from where she left off.
I on the other hand own a HTC Sensation, with Elegancia Sense 4 ROM installed (as per my signature below), and the only icon that I see at the top of my curtain is the settings button. I would really like to see recently used Apps in my curtain, as currently I need to go to the Apps menu, and then click on the App that way, or alternatively find the App on one of my "Desktops" and then click on it there. A simple slide and touch is better than constant tapping in my opinion.
If anybody knows how to add recently used Apps to the curtain whilst using Elegancia can you please let me know how?
Kind Regards,
Davo
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Do you specifically want this exact method of accessing recent apps?
There's a more convenient way too.
Long press the home button.
If you specifically want the apps to appear in the notifications pull down menu, I doubt you can. There probably aren't any tweaks that do it either.
The recent apps was a feature in Sense 3.x , so if it's really that important to you, flash a Sense 3.x ROM
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Do you specifically want this exact method of accessing recent apps?
There's a more convenient way too.
Long press the home button.
If you specifically want the apps to appear in the notifications pull down menu, I doubt you can. There probably aren't any tweaks that do it either.
The recent apps was a feature in Sense 3.x , so if it's really that important to you, flash a Sense 3.x ROM
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Aye, long press of the home button will do the trick.
You should then be able to swipe the apps that appear to the right to rid of them if you want.
Thanks to Tytung and the wonderful NexusHD2 Jelly Bean ROM!!! I have no complaints or problems what so ever.
I know its not so much of an important question and this thread will probably get deleted lol But I just wanted to know if there was anyway of removing the bottom bar (3 buttons on the bottom)? Theres a back button, home button, and recent apps button all on the bottom that came with the ROM. I just find it a bit unnecessary since the phone already has 5 physical buttons and just simply wanted to know if there was something that could possibly remove it.
Im just going to assume you cant change it. . .
Mods please delete this thread
Yeeeeaah so I ended up finding out how to remove the navbar lol should of searched harder in the first place