I have an HTC EVO Shift, which, because it comes from Sprint already running Gingerbread 2.3.3, cannot be perm rooted and takes some serious hoop jumping to temp root, and is pointless if you swap batteries a lot, which I do.
I want to use my Shift as a WiFi hotspot without paying Sprint the ridiculous $30 per month that they charge for very limited hotspot privileges (5g limit. Verizon charges $10 for the same).
I have used solutions like easytether, for unrooted (unrootable) devices, that permit WiFi hotspotting by giving you an app for your phone, and a driver for the device to be tethered, but this is ONLY for Windows or MAC. What about iPad? I'm not a programmer, but I know from experience, that there are a LOT of drivers for the (jailbroken) iPad that do some pretty obscure stuff (i.e., including allowing it to use and be powered by legacy devices and cables). So, writing something to make EasyTether, or a similar app, allow Android to iPad WiFi tethering, would not be that hard.
I am sending this to the main group, because the EVO Shift running 2.3.3, cannot possibly be the only defacto un-rootable Android device, and I cannot be the only one who wants to tether his Android to his iPad.
Is there anyone out there who could modify the driver for one of the current apps?
Thanks!
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Heres what I understand:
$30 Unlimited Data plan to the phone (as usual)
Optional $20 Wifi Tethering with 2GB cap (through Verizon App?)
When 2.2 comes out, will the built in Android Wifi hotspot be removed? Or will it work without the $20 wifi plan?
They have to disable it. Otherwise, who in their right mind is going to pay for something when there's software already on the phone that allows you to do it?
I guess I'll just be sticking to PdaNet. Nice try though, VZW.
Yeah, darn. Hopefully the geniuses here can find some way to reenable built in wifi tethering so that vzw cant tell that its being tethered. I want wifi on my ipad
does this mean there is a high chance this phone will be un-rootable? because of http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
2.2 source code may be released to the carriers but they can change it however they want to fit thier hardware and needs.
So if they want to take out the free wifi hotspot capabilities in 2.2 for the X or other devices and still charge for wifi hotspot capabilities with 2gb caps for 20 bux then guess what, they can.
PDAbnet may do wifi tethering but that is different from wifi hotspotting to multiple devices
remember that once rooted you can flash different roms and install any apps to your hearts content
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does this mean there is a high chance this phone will be un-rootable? because of http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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This doesn't really have any bearing on whether the phone will be unrootable - IMO every phone is rootable, it is just a matter of finding an exploit... Hopefully this phone will be easier than the last one I had (Droid ERIS :-/)
This is not correct. The Milestone has been rooted but no access to the bootloader has been had meaning no custom Tom's.
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Here is a few things to keep in mind..
The Verizon 3G app is infrastructure, thus it works with things like PSP and Nintendo DS, which is why i keep it. The Wireless tether apps are only ad-hoc for now.
From what ive been told, the verizon app loads a different firmware before running.
Now, what verizon can do and has done in the past, especially on windows mobile phones, is take out a feature like wifi hotspot in an OS, and put their own in its place.
do NOT be surprised if VZW does the same thing with 2.2 and yes, it is 20 a month for a measly 2gb on the hot spot app, but wireless tether is unlimited for 30
this is why i ONLY use the hot app for PSP and DS and the rest wi-t for root
not to mention, i am not even sure if the 2.2 is ad-hoc or infrastructure.. anyone know?
This is how the USB Tethering works for Verizon's 2.2 FroYo build, and I'll safely assume that it'll be the same for WiFi:
When you connect via USB Tethering, the phone directs you to a Verizon webpage (https://dunsp.vzw.com/selfProvisioning/SelfProvisioningServlet) which informs you of the package costs, and gives the phone number to add the package.
Interestingly enough, this only occurs if you tether it's 3G connection and not it's WiFi connection.
You may wonder why you'd want to tether a phone's WiFi connection via USB.. well.. personally I just pay for the Boingo mobile hotspot ($7.99/mo), which will work on my iPad or Droid, and if I need to use my PC, I tether my Droid's WiFi to my laptop. Saves $9.99/mo.
Hey again,
I rooted my captivate using the JH2 Rom and the Unleash the beast rooter thingy. So i was all hunky dory playing around setting up my wireless tether and showing some friends, but then one of them told me that AT&T can find out if i'm tethering and will bill me an astronomical amount at the end of the month.
Is there any truth behind this?
p.s. off topic i know, but is it possible to unroot unleash the beast?
Thanks!!
It's unlikely that AT&T will find out you're tethering unless maybe they take a closer look at your account (due to excessive usage), and see that your user agent strings are for a desktop browser, etc. But I'm not entirely sure they can even legally do that (examine your data). Just go easy (no bit torrenting) and you'll do fine.
They will charge if you they find out - it's an extra 30 bucks for tethering, and it's only 2 gigs total - which is just absurd. If they're going to charge you extra, they should at least include extra data - a lot of extra data. Tethering is quite possibly one of the biggest rip offs in the mobile industry - neck in neck with the high fees for texting.
My thing...
The initial stock ROM allowed tethering wired whether or not you paid.
The current ROM right now has tethering removed completely.. I find it outlandish that were I paying for the tethering right now I couldn't even do it legally.
AT&T has theoretically charged extra for tethering since nearly the beginning of internet access on a cell phone ...
I tether frequently when traveling (not only on my Captivate but with several other phones previously), and have yet to see any additional charges. Have also never paid the extra $20-$30 for an AT&T data plan which 'includes' tethering.
AT&T may try to lock it down in future ROMs but I imagine there will always be developers finding 'work-arounds'. They certainly have for wireless tethering ...
Wireless tethering from unleash the beast doesnt even load (FC) on my ohone,.
I'm a former at&t employee the only way they will know is if you have excessive data use. Like downloading. A couple gigs a day. If you use the tethering for normal internet browsing they will never know. Just don't do any bit torrents from Yuri device haha. You would be surprise how many peoples accounts I saw with 10 gigs in a few days. But so you know your save there isn't away for them to know what your doing they only see how much data is being sent a received.
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just downloaded it tonight. runing great.got 4g speed tethering,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Android hacker Koush makes mobile internet tethering undetectable by carriers
http://www.slashgear.com/android-ha...-tethering-undetectable-by-carriers-02205425/
Sooo what's the difference between this one and all the other ones? Currently on my phone I have both the Wired Tether and Wireless Tether apps (neither available on the marketplace but easy to find in the right places). I've never gotten a message from ATT once about tethering - and I do it more often than not, using just the Wireless Tether app. Averaging 4 GB a month total data (tether and legit non-tether data combined)
Kudous to Koushik for getting a workaround like that, but the necessity of a laptop kind of puts the kibosh on it for me since I'd use the hotspot feature for tablets mainly.
^^ agreed. wifi tether trumps usb tether. main reason i rooted in the first place. but good to know that non root options exist.
I like to root my phones primarily for enabling wifi tethering. My boss wants me to get work emails on my phone with an app called Good For Enterprise. However, this app detects if the phone is rooted and will not run if so. I am curious about how the app detects the root, and if there is any way around it. However, I do not want to get escorted out of the building by security. It may be wiser to tether without root access, OR if the root/unroot procedure is quick enough I could simply root when I want to tether and then unroot.
I just got an Evo 4G LTE because my old Evo 4G wimax has been dropping calls and cutting out badly. Turns out its network issues, and the new Evo is no better. Sprint claims 4G LTE is completely available here, but that seems to be "on paper" only. I will be returning this Evo today and dropping Sprint altogether. I chose a 2gig tethering plan for $20 just to test the bandwidth before modifying the new Evo - Evo and pc connect just fine but webpages will not load!)
I guess I will get a MetroPCS phone. I have been looking at the LG Motion, but its files are signed. Therefore, still no custom recovery or ROMs for it. Any suggestions? And what about that Good For Enterprise dilemma? Thanks in advance!! :good:
Edit: I had the name wrong. Its Good For Enterprise, not Good For Business...
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I like to root my phones primarily for enabling wifi tethering. My boss wants me to get work emails on my phone with an app called Good For Enterprise. However, this app detects if the phone is rooted and will not run if so. I am curious about how the app detects the root, and if there is any way around it. However, I do not want to get escorted out of the building by security. It may be wiser to tether without root access, OR if the root/unroot procedure is quick enough I could simply root when I want to tether and then unroot.
I just got an Evo 4G LTE because my old Evo 4G wimax has been dropping calls and cutting out badly. Turns out its network issues, and the new Evo is no better. Sprint claims 4G LTE is completely available here, but that seems to be "on paper" only. I will be returning this Evo today and dropping Sprint altogether. I chose a 2gig tethering plan for $20 just to test the bandwidth before modifying the new Evo - Evo and pc connect just fine but webpages will not load!)
I guess I will get a MetroPCS phone. I have been looking at the LG Motion, but its files are signed. Therefore, still no custom recovery or ROMs for it. Any suggestions? And what about that Good For Enterprise dilemma? Thanks in advance!! :good:
Edit: I had the name wrong. Its Good For Enterprise, not Good For Business...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163
I have been a customer of Virgin Mobile for years. When I purchase my new LG Volt they said I had to move to a new plan that went from $25/mo to $35/mo because it uses 3G or 4G or some such thing. The plan was for 300 minutes a month and unlimited data and supposedly stayed the same when moving to the new plan.
Anyway, on my old phone I could tether and since I had unlimited data in both cases I thought that I could tether my new phone to my pc like I did the old one. Didn't happen. Seems VM is now blocking tethering unless you purchase something call HOTSPOT for more money.
So my question is:
Is it possible to override the blocking of tethering on a phone and use your data plan with your pc tethered to your phone? I would think with a rooted phone there would be a way to fake out the phone to make it think the data is from the phone rather than a tethered device.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I have been a customer of Virgin Mobile for years. When I purchase my new LG Volt they said I had to move to a new plan that went from $25/mo to $35/mo because it uses 3G or 4G or some such thing. The plan was for 300 minutes a month and unlimited data and supposedly stayed the same when moving to the new plan.
Anyway, on my old phone I could tether and since I had unlimited data in both cases I thought that I could tether my new phone to my pc like I did the old one. Didn't happen. Seems VM is now blocking tethering unless you purchase something call HOTSPOT for more money.
So my question is:
Is it possible to override the blocking of tethering on a phone and use your data plan with your pc tethered to your phone? I would think with a rooted phone there would be a way to fake out the phone to make it think the data is from the phone rather than a tethered device.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Pda net can be used for tethering.. If ur phone doesn't support tethering...
Yes pda net will be perfect for you but its a pc software and it will be perfect for you only then if your phone doesn't support tethering
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JimReid said:
I have been a customer of Virgin Mobile for years. When I purchase my new LG Volt they said I had to move to a new plan that went from $25/mo to $35/mo because it uses 3G or 4G or some such thing. The plan was for 300 minutes a month and unlimited data and supposedly stayed the same when moving to the new plan.
Anyway, on my old phone I could tether and since I had unlimited data in both cases I thought that I could tether my new phone to my pc like I did the old one. Didn't happen. Seems VM is now blocking tethering unless you purchase something call HOTSPOT for more money.
So my question is:
Is it possible to override the blocking of tethering on a phone and use your data plan with your pc tethered to your phone? I would think with a rooted phone there would be a way to fake out the phone to make it think the data is from the phone rather than a tethered device.
Anyone have any ideas?
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There's a few different options, but USB tethering with PdaNet is the easiest and probably the best, so long as you only need the one connection. It doesn't require root, and USB tethering takes far less juice than wifi tethering does. It uses a companion app on your PC, and there's an option to "hide tether usage", which creates a sorta VPN which prevents the provider from knowing how you're using the data. This should work for you, but I can't confirm for certain. PdaNet is $8 (well worth it), but there's a free trial version so you can test before purchasing (it cuts your connection off after ~10 minutes and you have to reload the app).
Any method to bypass wifi tether provisioning will require root plus using the hotspot generates a ton of heat and will nuke your battery in very short order. Which is all well and good if you want to root anyway. I use Fabio Grasso's Wifi Tether Router. It's $2.50 (and well worth it). It can be a bit tricky to set up, as different phones require different settings. Plus he's Italian, so his English isn't the best. But he'll respond to an email if you're having difficulty, and it's regularly updated for new Android versions, new devices, and bug fixes. PdaNet should be your main method, but it never hurts to have both in case you need a hotspot for a laptop or tablet while away from home. You can actually use both simultaneously, which I do at home to provide a connection to my PC, tablet, and any phone that doesn't have the SIM card in.
Thanks to all of you responding. It seems to work find with USB tethering which will serve my purposes but the wifi tethering didn't seem to work right off so I'll have to play with it. It gave the same error about contacting my provider because it doesn't support HotSpots and I need to purchase that option. But the like I said the USB option seems to work fine and will serve me well. Thanks again to all of your responses.
Jim