I thought there's a Zoom Button for viewing non-tablet apps in 3.2?
msn0005 said:
I thought there's a Zoom Button for viewing non-tablet apps in 3.2?
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If you don't see it, then it's an app that has been updated to work with the Honeycomb interface.
I installed the same app on my Galaxy Tab 8.9 and 7.0
I see that button on 8.9 but not 7.0
Different resolution and physical screen size between the two is why fewer apps appear with the zoom option on the 7.0 Plus. Drives me nuts since it's not accurate at all and doesn't provide the option for several apps I have that could have needed it
Cptnodegard said:
Different resolution and physical screen size between the two is why fewer apps appear with the zoom option on the 7.0 Plus. Drives me nuts since it's not accurate at all and doesn't provide the option for several apps I have that could have needed it
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This makes some sense considering the Tab 10.1 & 8.9 resolutions are 1280x800 and the 7 is 1024x600.
Depending on what the density of the screen is on the Tab 7...it looks to be lumped in the Large Screen, Medium Density category...take a look at the link below via Android Developers:
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html#testing
There might be a way to lower the density to 120...maybe that will activate compatibility zoom. I'm not sure though if compatibility zoom is based on the Extra Large Screen size or not.
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Looks like most apps aren't utilizing this declaration in their Manifest...this attribute must be declared for tablets like the Tab 7 to utilize CZ. I think it's default for most tablets with a resolution equal to or greater than 1280x800.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/supports-screens-element.html#compatibleWidth
Also, there's no way to lower pixel density (facepalm). This is determined by the actually real estate of your screen and the resolution. We could lower it by decreasing resolution. That, basically, is compatibility zoom...it lowers your resolution to fit the size of your screen (lightbulb).
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Hi guys. Lets say I have a game or app and it lags cause of 1080p. (DO NOT answer like: This is not the resolution problem, because sometimes it is). Or just app is not supported by full HD. Anyway. Can I change the resolution for 1280x800 (Popular and from normal Transformer)? Does simply DPI change work? What to set? Please tell me. Just for the situation with 1280x800, I want ALL apps etc to run in this resolution. Will it lag anyway?
Sorry for my English.
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Actually this is a pretty good question. Some games can't really be displayed in full HD because it just requires much better hardware than is in our devices. Lowering the resolution would probably be very helpful in improving the frame rate and consequently the game play.
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I'd like to know an answer to this too. Is there a simple way to do this, such as installing an app from the Play Store?
perhaps paranoid android can help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904894
have not tried it myself.
I don't know of any app or setting that does what you want.
changing the dpi will do nothing to change the resolution. all that does is tell the OS the physical size of the pixels on the screen in an attempt to keep UI elements the same size across varying dpi screens.
for example, if you take an icon and display it on a regular screen and an hdpi screen with a straight 1:1 pixel mapping, it will appear much smaller on the hdpi screen. but if you tell the OS what the pixel density of each screen is, it then has a reference point and can then enlarge or shrink the icon so that it appears to be roughly the same physical size on both screens.
this is why lowering the dpi setting on your device shrinks everything. the OS thinks the pixels of the display are much larger than they are and shrinks the images to make them appear the intended size.
to change the display resolution, you'd first need a display driver that supports the lower resolutions, which we seem to have since we can output at 720p over hdmi. then you need a screen that will upscale lower resolutions to fullscreen (because you really don't want to play in a tiny 1280x720 window do you?) when non-native input (something other than 1920x1200) is received. i'm not sure if the display in the infinity is built to do that. they may have designed it thinking they will never run it at anything other than native resolution and left it at that.
who said anything about dpi?
Transformer TF300 update on TF700
Happily we have previous Transformers with almost the same hardware and lower screen resolution. Do I have FULL HD installing this (UP) ? I guess gaming on tablet with lower resolution is not possible, but maybe I can downscale the graphics with CHAINFIRE 3D. This is really cool feature. I think we all need it (now and in future). 1280x800 is acceptable res, and some games just won't work on FULL HD.
lafester said:
who said anything about dpi?
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Uhh, the OP?
LEGOracer69 said:
Does simply DPI change work?
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lafester said:
who said anything about dpi?
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the op did. durrrrrrr
read much?
I just noticed that when I view my website, Chrome doesn't seem to be using the full resolution of the tablet. Let me explain.
When I look at the 660x440 pixel images on my Desktop (Viewsonic VX2450, 1920x1080 resolution), these take up a relatively small portion of the screen, and I can see the entire image without scrolling. But when I view it on my Asus Infinity, which runs the same 1920x1080 resolution, the same 660x440 pixel image is much larger - the portrait orientated shots cannot be fully seen without scrolling, indicating that the vertical resolution is not 1080 pixels, for all practical purposes.
I have the "Desktop Requested" option selected, and I don't see any other settings to effect how Chrome displays its pages.
Am I missing something basic here, have something not set-up properly, or is this just the nature of the beast? FWIW, this works the same in the stock browser as well.
I feel the same way about chrome
try using different browsers
i think that the Maxthon browser is the best when it came to viewing images
they have a version made just for tablets
Same here with chrome.
I don't understand what's going on with it.
A lot of people rave about chrome.
Been using it trying figure out how it works.
Settings are minimal, web pages in Android won't zoom normally.
I agree about Maxthon or just about any other browser.
Features are much better in most other choices.
(*the TF700T has a resolution of 1920 by 1200)
I can't say I have noticed this myself by haven't tried a direct test. Have you tried looking at the browser settings for default zoom level? Possibly one or the other is displaying not at 100% zoom?
I appreciate the replies.
I have looked, but can't find any setting that would effect zoom or scaling, or something along those lines. Putting "chrome://chrome/settings/" into the address bar, which works on the desktop version of chrome, doesn't provide access in the android version ("this webpage is not available").
Guess I'll play around with some other browsers and see what I can find. I've heard/read good things about Boat and Dolphin; will have to check out Maxthon as well.
I just was curious about this, since it was unexpected - I would have assumed that the full 1920x1080 resolution would be taken advantage of by either the stock or the chrome browser, but apparently not...
Any other thoughts appreciated.
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The Infinity's res is 1920x1200
I know I know I'm a know it all
The other options I have just thought of is that I have not had a great deal of look with Chrome and requesting the desktop version of a website, even if you tick to get the desktop, I still get the mobile version. I mainly use the stock browser as you can default it to displaying desktop version (amongst other things). Or possibly, if you're using a different way of accessing the internet (wifi vs a 3G connection) the website may be delivering the content differently? I know that mobile operators in the UK used to scale down images/compress them over their connections, although I don't think they do this anymore. Just a thought...
DLCPhoto said:
When I look at the 660x440 pixel images on my Desktop (Viewsonic VX2450, 1920x1080 resolution), these take up a relatively small portion of the screen, and I can see the entire image without scrolling. But when I view it on my Asus Infinity, which runs the same 1920x1080 resolution, the same 660x440 pixel image is much larger
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Switch your desktop OS to 240 dpi and then compare again. Browsers for high res screens usually zoom images because otherwise they would be far too tiny and out of proportion with the text.
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Switch your desktop OS to 240 dpi and then compare again. Browsers for high res screens usually zoom images because otherwise they would be far too tiny and out of proportion with the text.
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Thanks for the reply.
Is it possible to change the DPI on a stock, unrooted Infinity tablet? I did a quick search and found LCD Density Modder that can do this, but it requires root. I can't find any 'conventional' settings on the device that will allow this.
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Is it possible to change the DPI on a stock, unrooted Infinity tablet?
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No, you need a custom kernel for that. Maybe it's possible to just find another browser where you can zoom out further.
DLCPhoto said:
Thanks for the reply.
Is it possible to change the DPI on a stock, unrooted Infinity tablet? I did a quick search and found LCD Density Modder that can do this, but it requires root. I can't find any 'conventional' settings on the device that will allow this.
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You cannot change DPI on a fully stock TF700. Furthermore, although I can't find the reference at the moment, I have a vague memory of someone reporting in here after bricking their 700 with LDC Density Modder - I refrained from using it for that reason myself. (I haven't dared trying it, even with the Pro version I paid for for my SGS2... Sorry!)
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No, you need a custom kernel for that. Maybe it's possible to just find another browser where you can zoom out further.
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Thanks.
I forgot to mention that I did try the Maxthon Browser - its settings do give you the option to change the default zoom (far, medium, close). But when I select "far" it does properly display whatever page I have open at less zoom, but then when I go to other pages, it reverts back to the usual medium setting (even though the settings menu itself still shows it on the "far" setting). So it's a poorly implemented, buggy feature, and I just uninstalled it. Haven't tried Boat or Dolphin yet.
It's not a huge issue, but it just hit me the other day that these browsers weren't scaling things properly, and I wanted to understand why, and what, if anything, I could do about it. Your comment about this being based on the dpi setting, rather than simple pixel resolution, makes a lot of sense.
Chrome just updated this morning.
Found the text scaling option\zoom, however the android browser still doesn't fit the tabs screen.
So chrome is still an ongoing PIA for this tablet at 1920x1200.......
Coming from the ground up
Thats OK said:
Chrome just updated this morning.
Found the text scaling option\zoom, however the android browser still doesn't fit the tabs screen.
So chrome is still an ongoing PIA for this tablet at 1920x1200.......
Coming from the ground up
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Yeah, I saw the text scaling option, but the problem is how it handles graphics that's bugging me. It's bound to get better, right??
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I forgot to mention that I did try the Maxthon Browser - its settings do give you the option to change the default zoom (far, medium, close).
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The stock browser has the same setting - I tried them but could not really zoom out further.
I just noticed this the other day. Any updates on this subject?
In comparison with my laptop's 1080 and my desktop monitor's 1440 resolutions, the highest of all resolutions - my tablet has upsetting low resolution when I browse sites.
Any way of increasing it at least to 1080?
What makes you feel that the resolutions is low? The amount of info shown on the screen or the actual clarity of the image?
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To make it short: http://whatsmy.browsersize.com/
Maybe stop using Samsung's stock browser?
No, change the dpi setting for the browser using Xpo sedan module App Settings. Setting Chrome to 213 gets me closer to 1080 though not exactly 1080.
Text is small though so I'm not leaving it like this.
I am seeing 1280x800 on both stock browser and Chrome. I am wondering if that is just the browser that rescaled to make it easier to read the text. I will check my GN10 2014 to see it will say the same?
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I am seeing 1280x800 on both stock browser and Chrome. I am wondering if that is just the browser that rescaled to make it easier to read the text. I will check my GN10 2014 to see it will say the same?
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I ran the test on every android device I have, none came above the 750 pixels wide. Which is a nightmare, because all the responsive design sites think anything below 1080 wide is 4" or smaller, so you get forced onto the mobile website with no way to the desktop version (as that's how responsive works, there's no "go to desktop view" and "use desktop mode" doesn't work.)
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I ran the test on every android device I have, none came above the 750 pixels wide. Which is a nightmare, because all the responsive design sites think anything below 1080 wide is 4" or smaller, so you get forced onto the mobile website with no way to the desktop version (as that's how responsive works, there's no "go to desktop view" and "use desktop mode" doesn't work.)
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I misread. The screen size is 1280x800 while the browser is 1280x750 as you mentioned. However, the very strange thing is: The reading seems to vary. I am getting browser size from 1280x688, 710, 750 ???
Using Dolphin browser, the sreen size is 2560x1600 while the browser size is 980x525.
I am beggining to question the the test app? if it is getting the correct info or different browsers are really skew the resolution?
I don't know what to believe at this point?
Blech, I just realized that I had typos in my prior post. Have any of you tried setting dpi in xposed module App Settings yet? I have settled on a setting of 256 and get a browser window width of 1600 on the test site that camspy linked above.
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Anyone else noticed for such a large display the text is overly large, see pics & YouTube clip I have the Samsung tab S 10.5 & more text is filled on the screen than the Huawei 10.8" display (even the nexus 10 shows more text) & that's with the Text size & view mode set to small because of this I would end up scrolling more. This is making me think twice about getting the tablet. The one I reviewed is my parents.
Does not help that the max home screen grid is only 6x5 where as the Samsung tab is 8x6 which is better.
in the landscape picture it mostly is because of the navigation bar you dont need wth the tab s.
I agree with it being slightly less dense than your parents tab s but I only have a old notebook as a comparison (with 1366&768 resolution) and am perfectly happy with the tablet. I suppose this could be changed with a custom rom though.
Edit: btw if it is just the browser you can adjust the scale. in firefox go to about:config and search for font.size.systemFontScale. I've got it on 70 instead of 100 and can fit a lot more content.
First of all which OS is the Tab S running. Is it the old WebView which comes as separate App, or does it already have the new WebView which is integrated into Chrome. Seems as if it is the old one on the Tab S.
Regarding the Launcher grid well yeah EMUI is different to TouchWiz, less rows and columns on the grid, but less lag fest as well. If you want to obtain more rows and columns on the grid change the launcher let's say to Nova Launcher Prime.
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Increase value in system - > dev options - > smallest width
Surethom said:
Anyone else noticed for such a large display the text is overly large, see pics & YouTube clip I have the Samsung tab S 10.5 & more text is filled on the screen than the Huawei 10.8" display (even the nexus 10 shows more text) & that's with the Text size & view mode set to small because of this I would end up scrolling more. This is making me think twice about getting the tablet. The one I reviewed is my parents.
Increase value in system - > dev options - > smallest width
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BAYMAX T1 said:
Increase value in system - > dev options - > smallest width
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I agree, I've done the same. For me, it's the non text items that are far too big. It feels like they've taken the 8.4" tablet and just scaled everything up.
I use a value of 950 - if you go smaller than that, the settings pages can become unusable. Note that this gets set on a restart, so you have to go back to Developer Options and set the value again. Still, how often do you reboot the tablet?
Hello,
I am visually impaired and I want to use a tablet as a phone, because everything looks bigger on a big screen.
But some apps look different on a tablet than on a smartphone.
They show more content on one screen if you use a tablet than if you use a smartphone.
If you then set large fonts and an enlarged display, elements overlap in the display.
Is it possible to use a tablet as a phone and make the app believe, that it is a smartphone when it is a tablet?
My smartphone is rootet and I have already tried some things.
I have changed ro.build.characteristics=tablet to "phone" (build.prop)
But that did not help.
Andreas
Change DPI. Lower means bigger. You can adjust that in developer settings, in the "smallest width". Play with that number until you find the good value. Keep in mind, every restart will reset that value to default.
Note that the Android's window size and the device's screen size are not the same. . For example, the area within the window that is used by an app can change if the window becomes too big to fit on the screen.
Read here:
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BTW:
Smartphones usually have a screen measuring between 3.5 – 4.3 inches. The screens of tablets measure between 7 – 10.5 inches, they look like a large smartphone but with additional capabilities
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Smartphones usually have a screen measuring between 3.5 – 4.3 inches. The screens of tablets measure between 7 – 10.5 inches, they look like a large smartphone but with additional capabilities
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That is right. Tablets look like a large smartphone. The screen of my tablet has three times the space of the screen of my smartphone. This could mean, that everything is three times as big as on my smartphone. But that is unfortunately not the case.
If you then set large fonts and an enlarged display, elements overlap on the display.
I would like to have a tablet, that behaves identical to a smartphone and everything on the screen looks exactly like on the smartphone, only three times as big.
The tablet knows the physical size of the screen. Otherwise it would not know the ppi-Value. Does anybody know in which file this information is?
Maybe the tablet knows the physical size of its screen ( screen size ), but that's absolutely not of any interest in your case: it's Android's window size ( viewpoint - resolution ) what matters.
You have to find the suitable combo of PPI related to resoulution ( window size ). Both values
wm size
wm density
can get set in Android's system file
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