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Does anyone have experience with the Parrot CK-3100 bluetooth carkit ?
I was about to go for the new Sony Ericsson HCB-300 unit when I encountered the Parrot. Featurewise it looks like a great unit, but I am interested in anyones experience using this unit.
What is the sound quality ? Are all features (like caller id etc) usable with the MDA/XDAII ...
Thanks !
Taco
Hi there,
I have recently fitted the CK3100 & have to say its been really good. It integrates with the vehicle, just like any other professionally available car kit.
That's the good news - the bad news is the XDA II (in all its guises) - still the age old problem of the lack of car kit profile means that the functionality is limited.
Yes, it does pair with the CK3100. Yes it will send and receive calls. What it won't do is make any proper use of the LCD display, nor will it allow access to the address book on the PDA.
In short, it will interact in the same way as it would any BT headset - because that is what it thinks its talking to !
If I use the car and need my handsfree - I have to muse my old Nokia 6310i - which works perfectly - allowing full use of the LCD screen and 100% access to all the data on the phone.
You may wish to check out the other threads on this site regarding the known and ongooing problem with the BT stack on the XDA II.
It's really pathetic that my old nokia beats the more advanced XDA II hands down when it comes to BT integration.
best of luck
Redz
Redz,
Have you tried installing the Pocket Bluetooth tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html) to create a carkit profile in the XDAII ?
I've ordered the Parrot and will receive it later this week.
A slight diversion
I hate hijacking but any of you guys know how to get the Motorola car kit to answere calls. O2 blame Pocket Windows 2003. MS blame Motorola. Making calls is fine but answereing is a no no so Ive to call callers back when on the road. Any ideas
GJW
redz said:
Hi there,
I have recently fitted the CK3100 & have to say its been really good. It integrates with the vehicle, just like any other professionally available car kit.
Redz
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Hi Redz
Tell me....does it only work for the phone function, or does it puts out other sound like mp3 or Tomtom nav directions ?
thx in advance,
iGadget
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Tell me....does it only work for the phone function, or does it puts out other sound like mp3 or Tomtom nav directions ?
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Phone only, and just using a headset profile, without the option of adjusting the volume which results in (too) loud sound, causing echo.
OK, this may not be the correct place to post the request but i do.
I am planning to buy a BMW. THis car offers a bluetooth kit to connect your phone to the car, you know this stuff to use your phone while in the car without actually touching it and talking via the car audio system bla bla bla..
Anyway, i wonder if these kind of car bt kits are able to play music from my trinity, too? if not, what other ways are there to listen to music in the car via my trinity?
anybody made any experiences yet?
Thanks for your comments.
Regards
enlite
I know here are some devices that connect to the audio out jack and emit a low intensity fm signal that can be captured on the car's radio.
I had that for my wizard and magician. But the quality is poor. Besides you would have to buy a mini usb to audio jack converter plus you can not use the mic anymore plus it looks like a nerd had had some time to frickle some cables together...
you can try with the parrot mk6000 here
http://www.parrot.biz/uk/products/parrotmk6000
it's an installation hands free, that includes stereo stream profile (A2DP)
in BMW you can hide too the mic under the case of the original mic location
ah, by the way, it's mooooore cheaper than the original BMW one!
The BMW bluetooth kit is not that great, most stock car options like that aren't, even the dealer will tell you that and probably tell you it's only really meant (TESTED) with Motorola phones. If you do get a BMW with a Bluetooth Kit, you're going to need this as far as phone functionality is concerned when it comes to Bluetooth on the BMW, you're going to need Jetware's Bluetooth Extension found here.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
The bigger question is why would you bother, it's not like you have that much storage on your Trinity to play audio for music. A better option instead of investing in 3rd party bluetooth options is to get the IPOD option with the kit, this way you have stereo controls and the IPOD sits in your glove compartment so no wires or anything. Not to mention you could always just burn a CD full of MP3, even my stock BMW radio can play MP3's burned onto a CD.
Trinity and BMW
I have a Trinity with the Dopod Test GPS ROM. It pairs perfectly with the BMW system on my E90 320D with Pro Sat Nav, and all the contacts are visible on the Sat Nav screen...most of the time. Last night I could only find those on the SIM Card, but after driving off this morning they are all there again (580 of them). I haven't tried Jetware but it doesn't seem to need it to work.
The Beemer has a 3.5mm audio jack in the console. Get a USB headphone splitter/adapter for your phone and plug your Trinity into this. It will then play through the BMW system.
Excellent information mate. Thanks a lot. So that means I only need to get a usb to 3.5 mm adapter and everything else works fine.
Thanks again.
I wouldn't put out too much hope.
BMW bluetooth is tempremental to say the least.
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OK, this may not be the correct place to post the request but i do.
I am planning to buy a BMW. THis car offers a bluetooth kit to connect your phone to the car, you know this stuff to use your phone while in the car without actually touching it and talking via the car audio system bla bla bla..
Anyway, i wonder if these kind of car bt kits are able to play music from my trinity, too? if not, what other ways are there to listen to music in the car via my trinity?
anybody made any experiences yet?
Thanks for your comments.
Regards
enlite
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My friend you are good... BMW comes with the Ipod connector and you want ot lisiten to muzic from a PDA... i bought Lexus GS300 and it do not have an iPod connector i have to pay few hunderd $ to get it fixed...
life is a ***** you will never get what you want and you will never be satisfied with what you have...
just for your info Lexus GS has the bluetooth phone hands free built in with there mark levinson audio system but its not stereo so i am not sure if the muzic u play from your PDA will be good quality, i tried the FM transsmitter for the iPod but in the end i have to move to cable connection as the sound quality was bad from time to time and i was not doing justice to the 14 speaker Mark levinson system...
BMW bluetooth in E91 320d works!
All,
Bluetooth connection works with my BMW 320 Touring (Model E91 from 11/2006) with BMW stock Bluetooth (Feature SA644) and my P3600 (in fact I have a Vodafone VPA Compact GPS running WM5).
The SIM Access profile is enabled using the HTC-provided application "SAP Einstellungen" (probably in English SAP Settings) on the P3600. The P3600 can be operated using the Steering wheel keys (Volume, Receive/Hang up call, show numbers in SIM on the iDrive screen, browse and call numbers and dial numbers using the speech-to-text function of the BMW iDrive). I have the "basic" iDrive system "BMW Business" without the full maps on the iDrive screen, but the Bluetooth feature is the same for both iDrive systems.
BMW has a phone compatibility list and in that list only the MDA Compact III (that is HTC Artemis/P3300) is listed, but all modern HTC phones using BT 2.0 and the SIM Access profile should do. T-Mobile confirmed to me that this also applies to the T-Mobile Vario II (equals HTC TyTN).
Speech quality is like with my old Nokia 6310i, the only catch is that BMW does not offer a charge cradle for extUSB connectors, but a Car-to-USB charger will do. Also, the BMW has a 3,5" Stereo socket in the Console / Phone cradle area to which I connect the P3600 using a 1-to-3 extUSB to 3,5" adapter, then music can be played back using the built-in BMW iDrive stereo system.
Hi,
I'm trying to play music though my HTC Cruise and listen in the car stereo.
I'm able to answer calls but I cannot make the audio streaming work.
It recognize the stereo with 3 functions: Wireless stereo, Serial port and hands free (they may change because the original are in spanish).
But I cannot make it work. Any suggestion or ideas will be very welcome!
Thanks,
Pipaman
Ive never got this to work and ended up using a hard wire cable to my line in on my dashboard.
Soz doesnt help you, but thought i would share my experience with this as i used to have a polaris.
Very bad news! I tried to set-up as Pendrive and I wasn't able to do it.
Does someone know if upgrading to 6.1 or 6.5 will solve this issues?
Looking at getting a new Head Unit that is able to do hands free calls and streaming from the HTC Desire, but also connect up an Ipod discretely (ideally through a rear usb port). I would much rather it had a wired remote microphone rather than one in the head unit itself.
So, what have found to work with the Desire. Any info greatly appreciated.
I am currently looking at the following units if anyone has one:
Kenwood KDC-BT60U
Pioneer DEH-P7100BT
Pioneer DEH-600BT
Sony MEX-BT5700U
JVC KD-R901
I use a Parrot Kit with my original headunit and it works great with the desire. I've got the Parrot MKi9100 which as well as bluetooth for calls supports bluetooth audio streaming, 3.5mm input, usb input (can connect phone, choose usb drive and play music from the phone) and also an iPod input too
I have bought the JVC KD-R901 and am pleased with it.
Pairing and streaming works seamlessly. You don't get track names but that is the phone's fault, not the HU as it doesn't support it. I mainly listen to audiobooks or podcasts anyway so its not much of an issue.
Getting the phone book across was a bit more of a pain though. It would not do the auto sync so I had to do the following.
Using GMail contacts on the PC I selected all and exported as a VCF file. This created a single file onto the computer. I transferred this via dropbox to the root of the SD card on the phone.
Next I installed BlueX (Bluetooth file share) app onto the phone. I put the JVC Stereo into manual phonepook transfer mode and then initiated the transfer.
On the phone I ran BlueX and selected the VCF file with a long press and selected send via bluetooth. The next screen showed the stereo as JVC Unit (unclassified) and once selected the phonebook transferred in a matter of seconds.
I can now seen the listing in the phone. The only downside is new entries will need to be done manually, but given the whole phonebook can be exported and uploaded in about 5 minutes I am not too worried about that.
Hopefully this may be of use to others.
I have the Alpine CDE-103BT.
The phonebook synced correctly and calls can be made and received fine (both when I had the stock UK T-Mobile ROM and now with the Modaco Froyo ROM). Only thing that still won't work properly is voice dialling.
It has a wired mic, and iPod support is through a cable on the back of the unit. It also has front USB and line-in sockets, though I've never used them for music as I always have my iPod with me.
Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Bryan.
If you are on a budget like I was and don't mind something that works well but doesn't offer much for features, the Sony BT2800 isn't a bad purchase. I got it at some electronics website for $135 with free shipping, mounting kit and wire harness. Phone calls sound good, the caller can hear me well, music streamed sounds good and it's easy to setup/use. Display doesn't show caller ID (at least not on my TP2 and Desire), and no phonebook support. Also, the desire does not support voice activation through it (my tp2 it worked great) so not having phone book support is inconvenient but this is the Desires fault, not the radios. Overall, it does what I need it to and it was not expensive. A good bluetooth headset sells for about the same at retail.
Pioneer DEH-600BT
I do car audio installs on the side of my actual job and most of the peoples are I install stuff, are happy that I told them to go with Pioneer, because of the sound quality and functionality for price. iv had people install Sony and other brands and pioneer is unmatched right below them to me is Alpine but personally i think the products are over priced
if you have any other questions feel free to PM me
I'm very happy with my Parrot MKi9100 as well.
Jvc is a pile of %%#% my avx44 which cost £400 broke just a month out of warranty and they refused to fix it.
pioneer definately. i use one with my desire via bluetooth for calls and music and has ipod wired up to glove box. downloads phonebook from phone and show ipod music the same way it is set up on ipod
jjkshaughnessy said:
pioneer definately. i use one with my desire via bluetooth for calls and music and has ipod wired up to glove box. downloads phonebook from phone and show ipod music the same way it is set up on ipod
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Which unit did you get?
I've got a Kenwood BT-60U and it works quite nicely now.
Adressbook sync works, although there some strange entries in the HU and you can not choose a letter to begin you search with (well, you can but it always starts at A).
With 2.1 (or a Sense rom - I'm not sure if 2.2 or a AOSP rom made the difference) I always had connection losses.
I use it only to have a hands free car kit and for that purpose it works well enough - the sound quality is okay and its nicely integrated with e.g. USB playback (basically I can charge my Desire & listen to music from SD while having BT handsfree on )
Parrot Mki9000 here, its a deadly combination with upgradable software - unlike HUs.
Plus a wireless remote which I can mount anywhere and remove for security.
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Which unit did you get?
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mine was the older deh 500bt unit. also has 3 separate outputs so upgrading speaker equipment is a doddle.
On a budget?
Wharfedale ICS182
£49.99 from Argos, I got mine for £32 of ebay!
Bluetooth hands free, USB, SD Card, CD Player, its great and works brilliantly with the Desire, sound quality is great and better than the JVC unit I took out. Hands free works great and no one has a problem hearing me even if I talk low.
Just checked mine agin and realised i gave you the wrong model number mine is the pioneer deh p800bt. excellent bit of kit.
I have a Pioneer DEH-P75BT, but can not get it to connect my Desire automatically, can anyone help?
pnyg
pnyg said:
I have a Pioneer DEH-P75BT, but can not get it to connect my Desire automatically, can anyone help?
pnyg
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if you used to have another phone connected disconnect it and clear the phone book memory. then go through the reconnection process. after this ensure that automatic connection is turned on on the head unit. turn car off and blutetooth on the phone on. then turn the car back on with the stereo. leave for a few seconds and the switch to the phone setting on stereo. if still not connected leave for about a minute to see if it works.
i had to try a few times but after it connected once automatically it worked perfectly. also you could try setting it all ready for the automatic connection and then making a call. i find this helps if music streaming doesnt connect. just hit play and then all of a sudden bluetooth kicks in.
Ok - I've got the Desire, and I'm liking it.
I've also got Spotify, and it's excellent.
But Spotify in the car would be amazing.
So, question is, would the above kit be a useful purchase?
This particular Parrot comes in 3 flavours, the bog standrd MKi9000, but there's another two which also have a small screen accompaniement.
Question is, which should I get?
Or should I get something else entirely?
I like the idea of FM transmitters, but pretty much across the board, they are meant to perform poorly. I also don't like the idea of being restricted by having to instal some of them in the cigarette lighter - I'd rather the stero component was hard wired if possible (and easy to fit myself as I'm on a budget).
So, any advice peeps?
I have a parrot SK4000 and it's terrible.
I've got a Parrot Mki9200 and it's great. It's a Parrot device so you have to expect the occasional oddity but I just get in the car and I have bluetooth handsfree and A2DP streaming from my Desire. I'm even contemplating changing my earlier Parrot 3400GPS in another car.
Haven't tried it with Spotify but I can't see why it wouldn't work. Works fine with Google Maps Navigation, although occasionally the A2DP streaming takes a second to kick in which means you miss the very first part of the voice instruction.
Edited to add that you can plug the Desire into the USB connector which both charges it and allows you full onscreen browsing of the media on your Desire. Select songs by album, artist, playlist, folder, etc.
Ian A.
Thing is, do you need the small screen that comes with the 9200, if you only use it with a Desire? I mean, what exactly would you use the screen for, assuming you've already got your Desire on a dashboard mount anyway?
I'm clueless about in car bluetooth connectivity and suchlike, so any advice is great. You can get the mki9000 quite cheap if you look around, but with the screens, you add a fair bit to the cost.
So - any other advice?
I had a MKi9100 Parrot which had to be returned as it had a fault. However, i was really disppointed with the quality of the music, as it uses its own inbuilt amp, not the car stereo amp. Quality suffers as a result.
With the MKI9200, I believe that there is a way to wire the kit, so the music plays through the car stereo, but you then have to have a separate speaker for phone calls, else you won't hear calls when the stereo is off. A good source of info can be found at the Parrot forums.
The benefit of the Parrot gear is that you can integrate it with your stearing wheel controls (if fitted), although you will need the additional control module.
Given my rather unreliable experience of Parrot gear, I'm looking to ditch my present Parrot CK3000 unit in favour of the Bury cc9060 kit. Not only does this kit have A2DP (music via bluetooth) and the ability I believe to route music via the stereo (please check to confirm), but most impressively it has multipoint - the ability to connect 2 bluetooth phones at the same time. A real bonus for those of us with 2 mobiles....
Hope this helps.
Parrot
I have the LS3200 and there is a lot of problems with the Desire sync of contacts from phone
This is exactly the kind of info we need.
I hadn't even heard of Bury kits, so cheers for the heads up...
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With the MKI9200, I believe that there is a way to wire the kit, so the music plays through the car stereo, but you then have to have a separate speaker for phone calls, else you won't hear calls when the stereo is off. A good source of info can be found at the Parrot forums.
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The Parrot instruction manual is wrong on this. If you have a decent car stereo, you can wire a line-out from the Parrot to the Line-In from the car stereo and use the car hi-fi amp for streaming music. You still connect the speaker bypass which kicks in if you get/make a voice call. I've confirmed this with Parrot tech support.
As for the screen, if you've got (or are getting) the Desire car dock and you only listen to music from the phone, I guess you don't need the screen. However I find that I use the SD card & USB connection to listen to music as well so the screen is pretty essential. The 9200 is only around £20 more than the 9100 so it was a no brainer for me.
However I did look at the Bury devices as well. I do expect the Bury ones are slightly more reliable (although the 9200 is better than expected) but I found them lacking in some features.
Ian A.
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I have the LS3200 and there is a lot of problems with the Desire sync of contacts from phone
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I've also got a 3400 (same thing but with GPS, not the most reliable of devices!) and the best way is to delete all contacts, re-pair the phone and then send a multi-contact VCF file to the Parrot. You can create a multi-contact VCF from MS Outlook if you have that.
I've managed to get multi-number contacts (so you can do voice dialling with "Call... Alex... Home"), contact pictures and all features working correctly with the Desire. It did take some fiddling though, especially compared to the 9200 which was pretty seemless.
Ian A.
Just got an MKi9200 and installed in my 2008 Civic. I am loving it so far!!
I have paired my Desire which I plan to use for calls and sat-nav using the bluetooth audio feature.
I also plugged in a 32Gb USB stick which I will be using for playing music.
All this works well so far, except for a few little niggles.... I am hoping someone can help
1. When the phone sync's with the Parrot I get a message "File format not supported" which appears, disappears and appears again during the sync. Its possibly contact related (either pictures or the contact themselves) - can anyone advise??
2. When the sat nav (Copilot) gives directions, the sound comes out of the Desire AND the cars speakers. This is fine but the phone sounds up first, then after a 1/2 second delay the same instruction comes through the cars speakers. Any ideas on how to get them to play at the same time or mute the phones instruction but still hear the car speakers?
Any help gratefully received!
Thanks
zippyioa
I use the venturi mini on mine and it works flawlessly the only problem is it does plug into the lighter socket, I did end up buying a 3 way extension plug for the socket though off ebay so it is now mounted elsewhere and i still have 2 spare lighter sockets and a usb charging port on it as well as on the bluetooth car kit.
the kit was about £20 off of ebay of £50 in the shops, phonebook dl all ok even transmits it on the head unit if it has RDS on it.
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I have the LS3200 and there is a lot of problems with the Desire sync of contacts from phone
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I have the exact same model, had the exact same problems but cured it.
I wrote a post about my experiences http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668042 , but I think the upshot is actually to break all the "links" in your contacts.
My LS3200 works flawlessly now.
advice please
I'd like to get Bluetooth handsfree set up with my Desire in my Toyota Rav4 (2005). Am looking at the following:
1. Brodit active cradle (hardwired to car, avoiding cigarette charger)
2. Parrot BT kit
So, my questions are: which Parrot kit am I best getting (dont want to spend a fortune, but would be nice to stream music from Desire through stereo speakers), & can anyone recommend a company to do the installation professionally in London? (as much as I'd love to do it all myself, probably not a good idea to open up the dashboard etc?)
Its a no brainer to go wth the MKi series, thebosh, but it depends if you want clutter on your dash or keep it clean and minimalistic.
But following the parrot forums loosely, its seems that more and more people are having difficulties with the 9100 and 9200 than the 9000 due to the added screens and with displaying what they wantr and how they want it, especially with software updates, changes to phonebook layouts and intergrations with social feeds etc.
For me, it had to be the 9000 with just the remote, which I mounted on a spring clip and then to a face vent.
I also got a brodit active charger (the one with the hardwired charging lead) for sat nav purposes, so I saw no need for an extra bluetooth screen you have to mount somewhere.
I too am planning to cut the cigar charger plug off and hardwire it, just need to get around to it.
The sound quality from the desire to the parrot 9000/9100/9200 BT is exceptional, and the music bass/treble is well balanced.
As for installation, register on the parrot forums and ask there.
You'll be surprised how many installers are registered for troubleshooting and can give you some sort of price/advice on whos doing it in that area.
I put mine into my 206, and its no sweat.
Thanks for the really helpful advice Touch Graphite. The 9000 seems perfect for my needs.
Had my first quote this week for professional installation - £244 for the lot. No idea if that's any good or not!
Will do as you suggest re. Parrot forum, as it would be awesome if I could do it all myself!
(For info, the quote came from avrmobiles.co.uk, & guy I spoke to warned me to rather go for the Bury 'Music' as he had experienced issues with Android & Parrot devices...)
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Zippy,
There are alot of bugs when it comes to the screened versions of the Mki series, hence my recommendation of the 9000.
I have no such problems with any sort of delay in sat nav commands, music quality or phone sync from my desire.
Only niggle I get is blipping when im canning the music at full chat from my desire on fuller vocal songs,
but using the Mix-zing app, and turning up the buffer size does help.
Keep It Simple.
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The Parrot instruction manual is wrong on this. If you have a decent car stereo, you can wire a line-out from the Parrot to the Line-In from the car stereo and use the car hi-fi amp for streaming music. You still connect the speaker bypass which kicks in if you get/make a voice call. I've confirmed this with Parrot tech support.
Ian A.
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Hi,
This is exactly the kind of solution I am looking for! I just got my MKI9000 installed and unfortunately the installer routed all 4 speaker output through the cutoff and not through the line-in.
I have a Skoda (part of the VAG family) and I am now trying to cross information so I can come back to the installer and get him to fix the installation (he will learn a thing or two from the infinite internet wisdom )
Any more information you can share on this option?
Moshe