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HTC incredible S -looking for native video calling feature

Hi Experts,
I use HTC Incredible S and looking for native video calling feature which is not available in default calling feature in the Android itself, since the hardware itself supporting video calling.
I thought it will be addressed in the new updates 2.3, but there is not any features which can help in video call.
I posted HTC for this problem, but replied me to wait till next update which is not fixed and they are not sure if this will be addressed. They adviced to use Skype, but I dont want to use any third party application or anything to make video call to make it more expensive & more difficult.
I wish there could be an answer in this XDA forum, so you experts can help me in this. Pls giude if is there any custome updates available. I will be greatful to you for all your help.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Sajid Ali

No Google+ Hangout? Are we the "out" crowd?

Since July, I've been eagerly awaiting the ability to video chat with friends using google's Talk and today I read that the Google+ android app has added the ability to to start a "hangout" (Google+ videochat with more than one friend at once).
Are we non-rooted MyTouch 4G users forever in the "out" crowd on this because google won't give us a basic video chat feature for their Talk app? I mean c'mon already, we are at Android 2.3.4 on this wonderful lil powerhouse of a phone with front facing cam, and I don't see any video support for google apps yet....
... have I missed something?
... or is this T-Mobile locking us out of this functionality?

gruuvin said:
... have I missed something?
... or is this T-Mobile locking us out of this functionality?
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You've missed the ability to read.
From http://www.androidcentral.com/google-app-set-receive-big-update-will-now-allow-you-initiate-hangouts
The Google+ Android app has continued to evolve at a rapid pace. Back in September, Google added the functionality to be able to join a Hangout from any Android phone running Android 2.3 and up. One of the biggest frustrations, however, was not being able to initiative a Hangout from your mobile device. Google has finally brought that ability to the app by allowing you to start a Hangout from Messenger. If you've started a a Messenger group, you'll now see a camera icon that will initiate a Hangout with a simple tap.
Great features just keep coming. Google announced on their blog post that the app will update in the next few days, so keep your eyes out. They also announced that similar functionality will be brought to iOS so you'll be able to Hangout with your family and friends even if they have iPhones and iPads.
If you don't yet have the Google+ app, please find links to the free app after the break.
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from : googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/google-hangouts-going-beyond-status.html
The new Google+ app will be available in Android Market within a few days, and it’s coming soon to the App Store.
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And even if the app doesn't show up in our market i'm sure one of our awesome hackers/devs will be able to fabricate the app to work on our phone. But their blog says it's work on any device 2.3.x+ so yes it will work on our phone.

neidlinger said:
You've missed the ability to read.
From http://www.androidcentral.com/google-app-set-receive-big-update-will-now-allow-you-initiate-hangouts
from : googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/google-hangouts-going-beyond-status.html
And even if the app doesn't show up in our market i'm sure one of our awesome hackers/devs will be able to fabricate the app to work on our phone. But their blog says it's work on any device 2.3.x+ so yes it will work on our phone.
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That was an extremely rude and childish response! If you can't offer help without being insulting, you should consider not posting and just moving on!!

gruuvin said:
wow!! big jerk!
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Not being a jerk. I'm just making it plain for all to see.
gruuvin said:
That was an extremely rude and childish response! If you can't offer help without being insulting, you should consider not posting and just moving on!!
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Neither rude nor childish. What was irresponsible was posting a question that has been clearly answered by the Developers themselves.
I never claim to be nice, i just claim to be honest.
edit :
You have no clue how i posted that. If you took it as insulting the problem lies with you. You can ask anyone of the other members here. I am never insulting or demeaning to any of the members. It's pointless to be rude to people that you've/i've/we've never met.

What I read yesterday is that the Google+ app already had the ability to join a hangout in progress, but that the new app being released adds the ability to start a hangout.
Now, I don't think the Glacier ever had the ability to do video chat with google apps. But, after reading yesterday that the Google+ app has already had the ability to join a hangout, I've tried joining an existing hangout with my google+ app but could not find a way to do so. My app is up to date via the Market, but that can be difficult to verify since the market lists the version as being device dependent (and so we could be left out of the latest versions), and since we never could do video with the Talk app., I kinda wonder if I'm chasing my tail here or if video DOES work for us now.
So, has anybody with a non-rooted MyTouch 4G had any success in video chatting with Google+, or have we been left out of having this ability?

gruuvin said:
What I read yesterday is that the Google+ app already had the ability to join a hangout in progress, but that the new app being released adds the ability to start a hangout.
Now, I don't think the Glacier ever had the ability to do video chat with google apps. But, after reading yesterday that the Google+ app has already had the ability to join a hangout, I've tried joining an existing hangout with my google+ app but could not find a way to do so. My app is up to date via the Market, but that can be difficult to verify since the market lists the version as being device dependent (and so we could be left out of the latest versions), and since we never could do video with the Talk app., I kinda wonder if I'm chasing my tail here or if video DOES work for us now.
So, has anybody with a non-rooted MyTouch 4G had any success in video chatting with Google+, or have we been left out of having this ability?
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Rude PM from [OP]. I no longer offer help to this memeber

neidlinger said:
... T-Mobile blocks us from doing it. Even over Wi-Fi, for what reason i have no clue. But if you install different .apks and .libs it's very possible...
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Possible for a non-rooted phone? Have you tried it with success? If so, where are the .apks and .libs (more than one?) and how does a non-rooted phone have these successfully installed (instructions)?
And yes, please understand before you insult me again, that I HAVE been searching this forum for these answers (by my ability to read). I'm asking for someone to explain how this is done; not just confirm that they know someone else that did it... I mean it's nice to know that it can be done, if that is indeed true, but you have already started this conversation off on the wrong foot, matey, and it would be nice if you would just give up your fight and let someone else respond if they actually have HELP!

neidlinger said:
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Rude PM from [OP]. I no longer offer help to this memeber
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good riddance, it was of no help anyway. Your rudeness was public, so I moved my responses to private (PM) out of respect for the forum.
I'm sorry people, for that display; can we get this back on topic now?

gruuvin said:
good riddance, it was of no help anyway. Your rudeness was public, so I moved my responses to private (PM) out of respect for the forum.
I'm sorry people, for that display; can we get this back on topic now?
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He wasn't rude. You didn't read. He made it more clear for you. You're overreacting. I'm done.

Cease the fight people. We must unite.

If I remember correctly I have successfully joined a hangout using the stock ROM, but it was definitely rooted. I know I've used CM7 to hangout. Decent feed as long as you're on wifi, the mic is a little sensitive though and gives some feedback, esp if you're in a room with someone else in the same hangout.

gruuvin said:
That was an extremely rude and childish response! If you can't offer help without being insulting, you should consider not posting and just moving on!!
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He answered your questions, stop crying

gruuvin said:
... Are we non-rooted MyTouch 4G users forever in the "out" crowd on this because google won't give us a basic video chat feature for their Talk app? I mean c'mon already, we are at Android 2.3.4 on this wonderful lil powerhouse of a phone with front facing cam, and I don't see any video support for google apps yet....
... have I missed something?
... or is this T-Mobile locking us out of this functionality?
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The information that was highlighted in GIANT RED LETTERS is about the release of a feature to INITIATE a video chat, BUT, the google+ app has allowed JOINING a video chat for a while now. Here, let me repost what information I already read before starting this post:
"Back in September, Google added the functionality to be able to join a Hangout from any Android phone running Android 2.3 and up. One of the biggest frustrations, however, was not being able to initiative a Hangout from your mobile device."
SEPTEMBER! this ability has been around since September. And yet I haven't seen or heard of it working with our phones this is why I posted a thread.
Regardless of the latest release, it seems that a non-rooted MyTouch 4G cant do video chat with the google+ app., nor could it do it with the Talk app. I would like to know if anyone has had success with making video chat work with google apps on a non-rooted MyTouch 4G.
But, it looks like you guys didn't read my questions -- those are the sentences with the question marks at the end. I quoted them above, but I'll try to make them simpler to understand. (Some of you senior users need to just move on if you see something that annoys you, instead of attack dogging people because you don't like or understand the way a question was posed.)
Has anybody with a non-rooted MyTouch 4G had any success with video chat for the Talk app or the Google+ app?
If no...
Is this because Google left out this capability with the Talk app?
Is this because T-Mobile has locked out these features?
And this is implied:
If yes...
How do we make video chat for the Talk app work on a non-rooted MyTouch 4G?
How do we make video chat for the Google+ app work on a non-rooted MyTouch 4G?

I guess I could ask one more question:
Does anybody have a non-rooted MyTouch 4G that can answer these questions based on experience?

Upgrade HTC desire s

Can I upgrade my HTC desire s to Android version 4.4
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dont know

There isn't 4.4 out yet. Look under development.
To the second post: Dont spam again.
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Hi, I am afraid there isn't 4.4 out yet.

Okay thanks. What about 4.0 or what is the best upgrade I can get without any malfunction of my phone. Cos I read somewhere about some things not working properly like USB and others after an upgrade. Thanks
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It's unfortunate you cannot differentiate between a spam and a honest question. If you cannot help someone due to a reason or the other, pls I suggest you stop insinuations.
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Oops, sorry I didn't read your post well enough to know you weren't refering to me. Apologies please.
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Wallpapers
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Touch
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Sensors
Root
Headphones
Bluetooth
EGL
Advanced Power Menu
Screenshots
Market
Mic
3D Games
Gallery
3D Acceleration
Video Playback
Tethering
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Camera(But i guess you can use vignette app to make ur cam work)
more
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Beta8R3:
- random fixes for stagefright
- fixed dial t9 bug
- Enabled configuration of EAP-PWD (WiFi)
- Random NEON optimizations
- enabled render dirty regions (test)
- updated Russian translations for T9 dial & Reboot menu
- added Car Dock
- removed broken google backup
- removed System Update menu from settings
- disabled lockscreen rotations
- improved power profile for saga
Beta8R1:
- Fixed 16bpp issue (thanks to paulb_nl for hint)
Beta7R1:
- real hw accelerations
- Books works
- all 3d apps/games works
Beta6R1:
- small cleanups
- fixed calendar sync
- torch from lockscreen (long press home)
- added car home
- etc
Beta5R2:
- Fixed root (su)
- Added Torch
- Added user dictionary
- Added CM9 Launcher (credits to nebkat)
- Improved app drawer performance
Beta5:
- Android 4.0.3 (IML74K)
- Fixed USB mass storage
- Music2
- Fixed graphics glitches
- Updated all gapps
- etc
Beta4r1:
- fixed video playback
- disabled launcher rotation
- updated kernel
- etc
Beta3r3:
- lockscreen rotation
- launcher rotation
- RGB fixes
- webkit egl hacks
- reverted/updated egl hack
- signalstrength
- updated kernel:
-- NOOP I/O scheduler default
-- CIFS/TUN/UTF8
Beta3r2:
3D Acceleration
3D Games
Gallery
Beta3r1:
Market
Mic
if SD card dont work at first boot, please reboot your device to get it work
I am not responsible for anything that happens to your device, use this at your own responsibility!

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Silversniper said:
There isn't 4.4 out yet. Look under development.
To the second post: Dont spam again.
Sent from my Incredible S using xda premium
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wtf mate he wasnt spamming its called asking a question. more like dont u spam. he was asking a serious question. which he got the answer to so stop giving people stupid comments that contribute nothing.
and to answer the op question no there isnt but there is aosp 4.0.4 roms take a loook in development thread buddy.

paul.robo said:
wtf mate he wasnt spamming its called asking a question. more like dont u spam. he was asking a serious question. which he got the answer to so stop giving people stupid comments that contribute nothing..
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please ensure that you read the full thread before sounding off. The comment was directed at the second post with the useless "dont know" response. This has already been resolved in thread, the original user who sounded off himself went on to apologize when he READ the post correctly himself.

ben_pyett said:
please ensure that you read the full thread before sounding off. The comment was directed at the second post with the useless "dont know" response. This has already been resolved in thread, the original user who sounded off himself went on to apologize when he READ the post correctly himself.
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are you a mod ( NO ) dont go round trying to act like a mod when u aint please. makes me laugh i could do the same but i aint that childish. u aint a mod it the moderators got a problem then thats okay messege me ( mod ) but ur not so dont try act like one it makes u look stupid. as u go round this forum writing on every single 1 ov my posts contributing nothing but this ( dont do this do this ) give it a rest mate im fed up with u following all of my posts pretending to be a mod when ur not it winds me up and ive already reported u for always doing this in nearly every thread. u need to stop trying to pretend to be amod cause we all know ur not lol joke

Calm down guys, this lil issue/debate/spat is hardly worth having here...
Respect the OP and if not on the topic of the OP then refrain from the side comments in the thread please...

Not worth reading..

paul.robo said:
are you a mod ( NO ) dont go round trying to act like a mod when u aint please. makes me laugh i could do the same but i aint that childish. u aint a mod it the moderators got a problem then thats okay messege me ( mod ) but ur not so dont try act like one it makes u look stupid. as u go round this forum writing on every single 1 ov my posts contributing nothing but this ( dont do this do this ) give it a rest mate im fed up with u following all of my posts pretending to be a mod when ur not it winds me up and ive already reported u for always doing this in nearly every thread. u need to stop trying to pretend to be amod cause we all know ur not lol joke
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Paul, that was uncalled for. And very rude of you. Ben is one of the most respected members on this forum, and would unanimously be elected a mod if the forum members had a say. He is one of the guiding hands in this forum, and has been one of the earliest members here. He also maintains the excellent INDEX thread that every single user here has found useful at one time or the other. His credentials are beyond scrutiny here. You are new here, and are a very energetic, though a little flamboyant member - and are most welcome to go about your own business. But all your posts exude a lot of aggression, and all of us here have felt that. Maybe you should tone it down a little, and try to gel better with everyone here. Won't be much of a forum if you antagonize everyone and try to run the entire forum alone. We all have real lives outside of XDA, and get together here for some quality time. No one signs up here just to flame others. Neither you nor ben have anything to prove. As far as moderation is concerned, all good forums are self-moderated. External mods step in only when things get out of hand. I don't think we should take it there. Before you accuse me of acting like a mod too, i would only request you to please keep the emotional content down, and just try to get along with everyone here. I've also seen you flaming olyloh on one of his posts - we are decent people here paul. I've known these guys long before you, and they are solid. Take my word for it. We could all do with a little more understanding, that's all I have to stay. Ball's in your court now. You can either add me and everyone else here to your flame-thrower list, or just cool it and embrace the community. It's your call.
Cheers.
EDIT : I see the moderators have already taken notice. Didn't notice as I was typing... anyway, let bygones be bygones, and drop this right here.

im letting the mods deal with him
this threads ganna be closed now ive already asked mods
@enigmaamit i respect wat u say but u dont know whats going on. i dont flame atall if u ask people i have helped they will tell u how much of a good person i am the other day i helped a man from Pakistan for 3days nearly i slept very little and together we got his phone working again. and no im not new. i used to be on here ages ago in the sony x8 forum. i ported sense 2,1 to the sony ericsson x8 and im very well known on that x8 forum here at xda for developing flash player to work with arm 6 devices. im not a noob im very well experienced with rom porting and kernel development. people assume that because i only joined up again not long ago that suddenly i dont know nothing :S but your wrong. im not here to flame anyone or cause arguments. please just let the moderators do what they need to do and this will end here and now

Closed per OP request...

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This messenger lets you send messages, like Whatsapp or Hangouts, but with more features!
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The project is not yet complete but I've opened the thread because I want to hear your ideas
Please share
I'm hoping for a release in January

? compatible with xda mobile app ?? :good:
err on the side of kindness

Really a cool and innovative idea
This app gonna be rock....Eagerly waiting for the first release to test it....Thanx

mrrocketdog said:
? compatible with xda mobile app ?? :good:
err on the side of kindness
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This is a messenger, comparable to WhatsApp or Viber
It is not a keyboard or anything so I do not see how it would be made compatible with an app
Thanks for your interest
Akshay7273 said:
This app gonna be rock....Eagerly waiting for the first release to test it....Thanx
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Thank you for your kind words
Beta releases will be posted here on this thread
Users are very important in a messenging app so please do share this
First beta should be available within 2 weeks
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I'm happy to be able to say that first beta will be available within 2 weeks for sure and probably within 1 week from today. If you want to beta test, check this thread (or subscribe)
Edit
I've decided not to do public betas until it is more stable
However development is going well and it should be done within a few months
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I now have a release estimate of January. Stay tuned!
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Thread closed at OP's request.

Whatsapp+ vs Whatsapp

Hey guys!
I want to know which is the better version? I want to know which is better in the general performance of the application. Can you help me?
Thank you!
Mod Edit: Everyone please note that whatsapp+ was removed from xda because of a DMCA (copyright) complaint from the owners of whatsapp. It is OK to discuss whatsapp+ on xda but please do not EVER post the app or a link to whatsapp+.
Thanks!

The original whatsapp application is working fine for me, i also used the plus version but for me is it unstable and not trusted.
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I never heard about whatsapp +

They're both stable and work fine. The normal one is more simpler, because + is for customising it. Try both and see whichever is better for you.
WhatsApp+ is very good with giving you updates quickly after the official is updated.
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Javi_ES said:
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It's an unofficial modified WhatsApp with a lot of additional functionality, not on the play store, but available for download elsewhere.

For me the plus version seems more stable, but then again I haven't really messed around with the regular version to much, but yea plus version has been problem free for me so far...

I have some problems to install Whatsapp+

I finally downloaded Whatsapp app. Has better performance. Thank you for replying.

I use whatsapp+ about 4 months ago and i love the extra emojis, the extended notification for mi U8 smart watch, and my favorite is the function to be offline, and see in the main conversation window the last time that a contact was online.
never went back to the official one.

I'm still running the original version because it works just fine for me. Read the changes of the plus and tried it out for a little bit but it wasn't a significant improvement/difference worth keeping. I know it went thru some bugs and now a lot of people like it, but I'm still loyal to the original.

Whatsapp plus is better in my opinion

Hey everyone,
I'm Kat and i'm new here..?
I'm using whatsapp+ and like it much more than the normal whatsapp just because you can customize it how you like it..

Ragazza_Italiana said:
Hey everyone,
I'm Kat and i'm new here..?
I'm using whatsapp+ and like it much more than the normal whatsapp just because you can customize it how you like it..
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Yes he themes are good. But the original one is more fast and smooth for me.

I used to use the plus version. but after the whatsapp team gave there own version a visual update i never went back.
If you like customization the plus version should be for you

I prefer WahtsApp

Best on it is to send pics in high resolution

There is no better or worse, each offers something that the other did not.
Whatsapp PRO +:
Last access hidden
Ability to send any type of file
Customizing the launch, notifications and ability to install themes
versus:
Send photos or files slow.
I still use Whatsapp + and I'm from GOD

change what u want

Whatsapp+
I prefer whatsapp+ because of the customization it offers.
You can customize almost every thing in it also you can apply theme but that's why it is little bit slower
The good thing is that you get updates frequently and it is improving quickly.

I prefer standar version of whatsapp, because whatsapp plus in my phone was terrible

fer456 said:
Mod Edit: Everyone please note that whatsapp+ was removed from xda because of a DMCA (copyright) complaint from the owners of whatsapp. It is OK to discuss whatsapp+ on xda but please do not EVER post the app or a link to whatsapp+.
Thanks!
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Good to know, thanks for the post!
Don't really see any benefits to Whatsapp+ for me.