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So after reading nearly 5 hours and spending my time in the wee hours of morning, I finally did all the "stable" mods for the phone... If you haven't been reading, make sure you guys check out the stuff in the development forum.
After all modifications, I was able to get 2701 points in quadrant benchmark. What mods did I do?
-i9000 eclair flash (JM5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734871
-Alternative mimocans lag fix
(one click installer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749495)
-One click root (googled it for i9000)
-Overclock kernel 1.0Ghz to 1.2Ghz
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746343)
This stuff really does help out your phone folks. Bench it now with quadrant, then take a peak at the other stuff and make magic happen. If anyone needs any additional help setting up their captivate, I'm more than happy to help.

I agree those fixes help speed a lot. But the quadrant score is meaningless. the speed hack creates an io loopback. The loopback just tells quadrant what it wants to hear.

Does your BT work on the european ROM. For me all people hear is a gargeled mess on there end?
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Can you post the results of these tests:
Neocore
Linpack
CPU Benchmark

I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?

jhego said:
I keep hearing about this quadrant, does it actually improve real world performance? Or is just for the sake of scores?
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Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.

modest_mandroid said:
Quadrant is just benchmarking software that takes the cpu, gpu and memory read/write speeds into account. It runs a series of tests and spits a score number out at the end, so you can compare your device to others (like comparing boner sizes, but less gay).
It doesn't actually do anything to speed up the device though.
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This is correct and to be honest there is way to much weight in the I/O tests. That is the only reason that the stock Droid X bests the Gal X. It has more weight than cpu and gpu so you can't put to much into those scores. They really don't mean anything more than bragging rights. What I am interested in is real world usage.

Real world use with the hack provides amazing speed gains opening and switching apps. Io heavy apps are very much improved while open too. It's finally as fast as the iphone.

Whats your battery life like after the overclock?

The score ended up getting lower and lower every time i used quadrant. 2701 is the highest I was able to get so far, but that's with a fresh install of the rom and all the stuff before I started loading on apps. Everytime I ran the benchmark, I of course killed the apps beforehand.
The battery life is the same- to be honest. This is me comparing a rooted stock ROM to the somewhat fresh install of the eclair i9000. The phone is very snappy. I came from an iPhone 4 and one of the biggest eye sores to me was the less-fluidness of changing programs, response to buttons (homescreen-back button) and pinch to zoom. After all these changes, it's a whole different story. Browsing is very appealing, especially since pinch to zoom isn't jagged or slow. The smoothness of this functionality is on par to an iPhone. And there is no waiting when I press the home button or back button.
True, maybe these numbers aren't considerably accurate (as far as the lag fix and EXT2) but at least it shows raw computing capability in it's current state... meaning, the usage of a virtual EXT2. Never the less, the phone is still all around faster, even if it isn't exactly the proper way of going about it.
The only problem I've seen so far is that it likes to randomly shut off. Won't respond to anything unless if I soft reset it. I haven't really found what causes it, since the consistency of it happening goes about in a non set pattern.

I didn't see any real world increase .. so I reverted back in about 4 hours.... I'd rather have the memory than a number that don't transfer to real world speeds...

Degraded 3D Performance with Froyo/Cog 2.2?

Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...

Lencias said:
Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...
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I noticed that framerates were lower as well, but only about 4 or 5 FPS. A drop this small isn't really all that significant, and 3D performance at 40 FPS rather than 44 FPS is still much better than a phone like the EVO which runs at like 18 FPS, so I wouldn't really worry that much

Yeah, I noticed it too. I'm also noticing other slowdowns, like a lag on the app drawer screen between my finger swipes and corresponding animations on the screen. If I swipe left or right, the actual swiping animation happens a split second later (noticeable lag). Something tells me this isn't the release build of this rom.
I'm also noticing that the battery dies much quicker with this new rom. I'd get about 2 days of use out of JH7 with the amount I use the phone, with JI6 I'm lucky if I get 8-10 hours.

Actually the benchmark result is quite amazing id say
It scores 1900+ in quadrant standarf
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Lencias said:
Hey everyone,
I was running Quadrant after flashing Cog 2.2/Froyo with OCLF. Everything seems to go faster but the 2D and 3D performance - I can definitely tell that the framerate is lower in those two tests than before. Am I crazy?...
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You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!

Use Neocore, that is a better FPS than quadrant. I still get 55.5/6 with Neocore so 3d performance is not degraded, at least not on my phone.

I'd expect some continued optimization of Froyo 2.2. Remember how laggy JF6 was? Then it got way better with JH2/3/7. I expect progress like that with the Froyo builds as well. With OCLF, JI6 is actually fairly impressive speed wise.

kennethpenn said:
I'd expect some continued optimization of Froyo 2.2. Remember how laggy JF6 was? Then it got way better with JH2/3/7. I expect progress like that with the Froyo builds as well. With OCLF, JI6 is actually fairly impressive speed wise.
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Hmm.. did you do anything after you flashed, like cleared dalvik cache and whatnot? Mine is actually running slower (UI-wise) than JF6

Its funny you posted this because I noticed it as well today when I ran Quadrant just to see what it would get. I think Quadrant is a horrible tool for benchmarking now since it can be so easily manipulated, but I did notice the FPS drop myself.

Gles 2/1 is perfectly fine, i scored 46fps on nenamark, so no need to worry about 3d performance, i do admit 2d does stutter a little tho.

designgears said:
You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!
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Take the man's advice! Quadrant is an awful way to measure performance on the Captivate. Quadrant is biased towards Snapdragon processors, and isn't all that accurate.
Sent from my Cognition 2.2 powered Captivate using XDA app.

It's running fine for me.
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Actually using NenaMark1 which is a benchmark app specifically for OpenGL2.0 I get slightly higher scores than on 2.1.

designgears said:
You are crazy... Quadrant is for SNAPDRAGON PHONES... STOP USING IT!!!
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dg, may as well save your breath. No matter what is said or done, there will always be people who complain that X is slower than when it was Y and be sure that they are right (and will argue they are right to their dying breath).
Synthetic benchmarks are b***it on a multitasking OS anyway, at any given time any thread can tie up a resource the synthetic benchmark needs or it may not. The only way you could truly benchmark something like this while still allowing multitasking would be with a long range sample like a few hours, the 30 -70 seconds Quadrant runs is a worthless snapshot in time.
They all think they are getting an answer but all they are really doing is using a magnifying glass on a Seurat and wondering why they don't get the big picture. Of course the performance issue couldn't be one of the apps they have installed or that has updated since the last time they benchmarked.
I have 206 apps installed on my captivate with even a ridiculous amount like that and more stuff than the average running I can still get a quadrant score of over 950, its a snapshot in the middle not an effective way to judge a film.

For everyone whinging about reduced "3D" performance, is the actual handset slower in real, day to day use?
This is stock 2.1 Firmware vs stock 2.2 Firmware.
Not Cognition/custom rom with lagfix vs Stock 2.2.

As much as I don't like benchmarks, in this they are only confirming the slow downs I'm seeing in real world use on the leaked froyo rom. (Not cognition)
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The first time I flashed 2.2 I saw some lag in the form of occasional black screens and delayed responses, even after installing OCLF.
I used Odin One-Click to flash back to JF6 and did a master clear before installing Cognition 2.2. Immediately applied OCLF before doing anything else. Not seeing the black screens and delayed responses this time. Some are suggesting it's the master clear that helps.
As for 3D performance, animations and scrolling between homescreens are a lot smoother than they were in 2.1. Games run awesome too. The only two places I notice some skippyness are in the app drawer (not often though, and very minor) and in the browser (this is due to a known memory leak bug).

1randomtask said:
For everyone whinging about reduced "3D" performance, is the actual handset slower in real, day to day use?
This is stock 2.1 Firmware vs stock 2.2 Firmware.
Not Cognition/custom rom with lagfix vs Stock 2.2.
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Yeah, I actually never bothered benchmarking, but I'm experiencing noticeable lag between swipes and corresponding animations in the app drawer and launcher.

modest_mandroid said:
Yeah, I actually never bothered benchmarking, but I'm experiencing noticeable lag between swipes and corresponding animations in the app drawer and launcher.
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I have never experienced that on 2.2, even before applying a lag fix. I suggest One-Clicking back to JF6, doing a master clear, and then installing 2.2 again.

No drop vs stock, the overclock kernel gave the extra fps. it also overclocked the gpu by 11%. 4-5 fps out of 40-45 is right in that area.
Edit :.i did a master clear so maybe that's why I don't see a problem
Not all benchmarks will work because our phones are capped at 56 fps. A benchmark needs to bog the gpu down below that for the whole test to get an accurate measurement. Quadrant does that for only party of the test. Many benchmarks can't do that at all.
Quadrant is a decent bench mark but our phones will not see the score increase of a snapdragon with froyo. linpack shows greatly inflated scores on snapdragon froyo devices. Greene computing goes over this on there website.
http://www.greenecomputing.com/
the full version of quadrant shows that the hummingbird and the processor in the droid 2/x mop the floor with the snapdragon in all areas but processing speed. The hummingbird having an edge over the droid x particularly in the 3d area but losing overall because of the rfs file system lag Which is apparently is weighed heavily and the reason the lagfix blows the score out of proportion and the different lagfixes have big gaps in the score while real world performance is not even noticeable.
http://slideme.org/application/quadrant-advanced
Composite scores don't mean anything and that is my gripe with quadrant, there is no way to decide how to weigh file system benchmarks against processor benchmarks against 3d, each area must be compared separately, and the user should be able to decide what that means.
Edit: linpack shows a huge increase over stock. 13.77 vs the 9.61 I got with voodoo and overclock. But still not at the level of a snapdragon. Wait till the next generating of arm processors come out, if you think a snapdragon/hummingbird hybrid would be awesome that's nothing compared to what's in the works. Higher clock speeds and multi-core cpu's aren't far away.
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[Q] wanting change from WP7 to a Optimus 3D

I currently own and use a HTC Mozart on WP7.5 but since I got myself a 3D monitor and soon a 3DTV I have got interested in changing over to the LG Optimus 3D apart from the obvious software difference (please note I have previously had HTC Desire/Desire HD/Legend etc so I am adapt to Android) I have to look towards the Optimus as no-one near me has the EVO 3D for sale

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I currently own and use a HTC Mozart on WP7.5 but since I got myself a 3D monitor and soon a 3DTV I have got interested in changing over to the LG Optimus 3D apart from the obvious software difference (please note I have previously had HTC Desire/Desire HD/Legend etc so I am adapt to Android) I have to look towards the Optimus as no-one near me has the EVO 3D for sale
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Good luck 3D is the only good part about it. If you're interested i can sell you mine with 2 xtra batteries. One 3500mAMP with extra big back plate.

Yeah i would honestly advise against getting one. Ive had it with running out of ram every few hours.
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Why do people complain about battery life surely it depends on usage?
When I had my Desire HD others were getting between 15-24 hours whereas after getting optimal charges I was getting between 24-36 hours. I am not a 'heavy' user but it does usually take me a good week or 2 to get to an optimal charge.

Compared to the DHD
Battery:
Idle battery life is similar (around 6-15% a night on 3G)
Music playback battery usage is significantly lower. (i get around 20 minutes to the percent on O3D, 4-8 on the DHD)
Screen on battery life (any brightness) is lower than screen on Max brightness on the desire hd - I get at least 4 hours of continuous screen on with 100% brightness on the Andrev 6.31 rom, whereas i can barely get 4 hours screen on time on any O3D ROM @ minimum brightness.
Screen on + Gaming battery life is significantly lower. I sometimes don't even get 1 minute out of 1% on the O3D.
Other:
O3D slightly faster
Sense is awesome, LG launcher is horribly fail and laggy.
The stock LG lockscreen takes around 1-2 seconds to appear after opening the screen whilst DHD is instant. This isn't due to the phone itself, as when PlayerPro replaces the lockscreen, starting up in instantaneous.
The DHD camera is much easier to use. LG camera takes 3 seconds to start, and another 3 to take a photo. Quality wise though, LG is similar, even though DHD's is 8mp.

Gavincol78 said:
I currently own and use a HTC Mozart on WP7.5 but since I got myself a 3D monitor and soon a 3DTV I have got interested in changing over to the LG Optimus 3D apart from the obvious software difference (please note I have previously had HTC Desire/Desire HD/Legend etc so I am adapt to Android) I have to look towards the Optimus as no-one near me has the EVO 3D for sale
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Since you are mainly interested on the 3D features, the on-screen 3D experience of the Optimus 3D is way ahead of the EVO 3D; there is absolutely no comparison between those too. As for playing the O3D videos on my 3DTV the quality (up to 720p) and the 3D effects are very good.
Regarding the rest of the O3D features pros and cons, you could stay with the Froyo or upgrade to GB which has increased battery life but it suffers from ghost calls (with some people/phones).

botson71 said:
Since you are mainly interested on the 3D features, the on-screen 3D experience of the Optimus 3D is way ahead of the EVO 3D; there is absolutely no comparison between those too. As for playing the O3D videos on my 3DTV the quality (up to 720p) and the 3D effects are very good.
Regarding the rest of the O3D features pros and cons, you could stay with the Froyo or upgrade to GB which has increased battery life but it suffers from ghost calls (with some people/phones).
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Cheers,
As for battery life I don't expect it will last as long as a 2D phone but IMHO the battery life is all down to correctly charging the phone (when I stick a phone on charge I never take it off charge until 100% even if I do take it off charge at say 75% I always let it run down then charge it overnight) and how much usage the phone gets eg, heavy use could be 6-12 hours very lite use 24-30 hours.
I should of been a little clearer on my question, my main question other then the one answered above is on general app performance, sound quality and usability how does this phone fair?

Gavincol78 said:
Cheers,
As for battery life I don't expect it will last as long as a 2D phone but IMHO the battery life is all down to correctly charging the phone (when I stick a phone on charge I never take it off charge until 100% even if I do take it off charge at say 75% I always let it run down then charge it overnight) and how much usage the phone gets eg, heavy use could be 6-12 hours very lite use 24-30 hours.
I should of been a little clearer on my question, my main question other then the one answered above is on general app performance, sound quality and usability how does this phone fair?
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General app performance is pretty good. It plays most GPU intensive games well. The only games i've experienced lag for is GTA III and Dungeon Defenders. All converted 3D games lag.
Sound quality is excellent compared to other devices I've used.
However, you'll probably have to at least install a new launcher. The LG launcher is laggy, and pretty horrible. Most other LG apps perform poorly as well - the lockscreen takes around 1-2 seconds to start, the camera takes 3+ seconds.

Please do not get one, there are great when they work, sadly LG software support is awfull and with all the various different issues I genuinely couldnt recommend an LG phone to anyone.

I decided to take the plunge and changed from my HTC Mozart to the Optimus 3D (secondhand) and so far I am not disappointed,
Things I was expecting:
1, slightly lower battery duration (still in the process of priming my battery and so far I have got just under 23 hours medium usage)
2, it was already on GB 2.3.5 (V21A), kernal 2.6.35.7, build GRJ90 so was expecting some of the GB issues
3, half expect ghost calls but had zero ghost calls
Wasn't expecting,
1, odd battery stats (but after reading the threads on here looks like it is normal for GB on O3D)
2, better quality video recording (compared to me HTC Mozart which struggled on 720p recordings)
So now just waiting like other O3D users for a further update from LG but I am very happy so far with my choice. Come off it Samsung Galaxy 1 and 2 users suffered from various issues so no phone is perfect

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General app performance is pretty good. It plays most GPU intensive games well. The only games i've experienced lag for is GTA III and Dungeon Defenders. All converted 3D games lag.
Sound quality is excellent compared to other devices I've used.
However, you'll probably have to at least install a new launcher. The LG launcher is laggy, and pretty horrible. Most other LG apps perform poorly as well - the lockscreen takes around 1-2 seconds to start, the camera takes 3+ seconds.
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I haven't had converted games lag but I use Juwes ram manager to set ram to hard gaming if I play a game and am low on ram at the time.
Lg launcher can as you say be replaced. I use nemus launcher but go launcher is also a good alternative.
LG should have put 1gb ram in at start rather than release an almost identical sequel phone with it later on but the phones good. I've considered flashing a new 3D rom but not dared to yet, but have read that using Thaiz rom is good.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
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kinda dissapointed for the htc butterfly.

My main purpose to buy the butterfly is to gaming on this full hd beast, but ended up dissapointed.
1st game I try- temple run oz- playable but full of spike lag.
2nd game I try- frontline commando d day- playable and full of spike lag too.
3rd game I try- gun bros 2- totally unplayable, loading super slow, ingame performance smooth while running around, but when happen explosion or too much enemies, game will freeze for 2-3 sec.
SnapdragonS4, 2gb ram, adreno320 should be very impressive SPEC. But gaming sucks a lot on the butterfly. Others scrolling performance is smooth.

wesker5131 said:
My main purpose to buy the butterfly is to gaming on this full hd beast, but ended up dissapointed.
1st game I try- temple run oz- playable but full of spike lag.
2nd game I try- frontline commando d day- playable and full of spike lag too.
3rd game I try- gun bros 2- totally unplayable, loading super slow, ingame performance smooth while running around, but when happen explosion or too much enemies, game will freeze for 2-3 sec.
SnapdragonS4, 2gb ram, adreno320 should be very impressive SPEC. But gaming sucks a lot on the butterfly. Others scrolling performance is smooth.
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Strange, my son plays these games also (i am too old for that **** ) but i didn\t hear him complain. Should be as smooth as butter(fly) :laugh:

Are you from some other manufacturers go into this topic to put the Butterfly down (like SS fan did)? He he, just for kidding. I play some heavy 3D games such as PS3 simulation, N4SP... and everything perfect. Butterfly is so smooth, fast.

snipervn said:
Are you from some other manufacturers go into this topic to put the Butterfly down (like SS fan did)? He he, just for kidding. I play some heavy 3D games such as PS3 simulation, N4SP... and everything perfect. Butterfly is so smooth, fast.
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PS1 emulator is fine for me. But I just dont know why Temple Run and Gun Bros 2 lagging like hell. the graphic not really high enough. is it because i using stock rom?

If i look the results of Antutu benchmark an performance increasement of 20 procent is possible by flashing a custom ROM

Think there may be something wrong with your model. The HTC Butterfly has the Snapdragon S4 Pro (was the best in the world a few months ago) so it should be perfectly fine with games like those since they aren't particularly high on the graphics part

Temple Run 2- running smoothly, no lag
Gun Bros 2- no freezing / no lag
Real Racing 3- (which i believe is one of the most graphic intensive games)- running smoothly.
For Temple Run & Gun Bros, I am playing on Power Save On. Real Racing I haven't tried yet, but generally I switch off Power Save mode.
Try restoring to Factory Settings and play again. S4 Pro is a very good processor and Adreno 320 is the latest thing.

siddharthanand said:
Temple Run 2- running smoothly, no lag
Gun Bros 2- no freezing / no lag
Real Racing 3- (which i believe is one of the most graphic intensive games)- running smoothly.
For Temple Run & Gun Bros, I am playing on Power Save On. Real Racing I haven't tried yet, but generally I switch off Power Save mode.
Try restoring to Factory Settings and play again. S4 Pro is a very good processor and Adreno 320 is the latest thing.
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your model? mine is X920D. running stock rom. Is it i must flash custom rom to play those game smoothly?

X920D.. Stock ROM.. Not even rooted till now..

Rooting and flashing a custom ROM might increase performance, however it shouldn't be a must since the phone is really fast. I also think maybe something wrong with your phone. I have seen scores with antutu approx 22000 so i cannot imagine not be able to play the latest games......

There must be some problem with your unit. I managed to play those games on my Butterfly when I got it. Temple Run 2 did have some freeze ups but I didn't blame it on the phone but the game since heck I can play modern combat 4 and dead trigger very smoothly. Is it also possible that you have multiple apps running in the background like skype, viber, whatsapp, and others (if you see a lot of icons in your status bar's top left side)?

My Note 20 Ultra 5g N9860 became slower running games

Hello there,
My N9860 was a beast when it comes gaming.. recently, I noticed it drops frames more frequent for instance, pubg used to run on extreme graphics at steady 60 fps .. now it fluctuates alot reaching down to 56 fps... Asphalt 9 does the same, may be even worse with dropped frames up to 52 fps! I made a hard reset but it is the same! I am not sure if that happened after the latest update ending with ATI3. Any suggestions?
Thanks

Are you using the gamelauncher function of Samsung to play the games? As it has the options to keep everything maxed out. Only other thing is if you have things running in background that could be taking up gaming resources.

demandarin said:
Are you using the gamelauncher function of Samsung to play the games? As it has the options to keep everything maxed out. Only other thing is if you have things running in background that could be taking up gaming resources.
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why you thing that is has to "max out everything". first of all it must prevent from overheating disable all these games servises and you will that ot will become much more smoother. ( on exynos especialy)